Why should we run a segregated tournament?

To encourage more g4mer gurls to play Quake, maybe?

Chess is also "segregated" by genre and I think it's a good idea. There are mixed tournaments everywhere around the world, of course, but if you care to take a look, there's only two girls in the top 100 chess players, with an ELO rating almost 200 points below the very #1. It's nice that women can compete each other and actually win something sometimes instead of being roflstomped by the great grandmasters. It's not a sexist idea - unless you're a faggot doing "women studies" in some left-ass university -, it's a good one.

I like the female tournament idea very mucha. I would give mah monies for this. I mean, look at these clumsy styles:



Aren't they cute? ;3

Yes it's exactly what inspired me, this tournament. But I think the level of female players has risen drastically ever since.

Honestly Missy is pretty damn good. From the first couple of minutes anyway.

Worst Pickup Attempt Ever

i hate tetris but i cant stop playing it

I'd smash 'em for $10.

smash 'em? i would rape them for that

oh boy

you wouldn't rape sheit
you'd jus get all awkward den go home n stick it in a pumpkin all nite

im swedish, i know how to rape okay

yo i won't pass up a self diss

Would have been believable if you claimed to be a Somali immigrant living in Sweden.

thatsa racist

Just wanted a set-up to post this pic

i wonder if the admins are gonna wanna tune down esr to accommodate to potential new ql customers through steam

spelling error and 'gonna wanna', you sure must feel disgusted when reading that

I hope they never find about it. The "2.0" patch (the noobification) brought here quite a lot of new tards already.

hey, ur talking to a 2010er >:(

why they are running to Finland in the first place, isn't it cold for them there? And why would Finland accept some random black people without anything to offer for the country?

Just like rauvz said, it's not a great idea to hold a segregated tournament. Let them compete with the guys. Saying things like "but they don't win" is a stupid excuse and a defeatist attitude.

There is no reason why women need a special tournament instead of competing against men.

so why is that common practice in pretty much any sport then?

Why don't we segregate female and male test scores in academic subjects in universities then?

We do - e.g. for entry and selection tests in central Europe.

Also do you think Quake Live is more of a sport or more of an academic subject?

edit:
inb4 physical strength/endurance etc. => chess

Weird.
I don't really consider quake to be a game where physical prowess plays too much of role ( though I do think your health does) as long as a person can get their mind in to timing and position then build enough aim to take routine shots then you can get fairly far.

One thing though that I've noticed is at least with the women around me is that the women tend to get more drastically preoccupied/worried so maybe that's why they haven't improved at the same degree aside from maybe the lack of motivation.

I'm no expert, just some thoughts

Because most sports are physical where women have a disadvantage. If you compare female football(soccer) to male where is a world of difference. The pace is lower the shots are weaker, pretty much everything is worse.

There are no reason to have segregated tournaments where nobody have a disadvantage over the other. You could even be handicapped and play chess/quake/CS etc.

The only reason to have a segregated tournament for women is if you think that they are in some way incapable of defeating men in quake.

chess, archery, shooting sports have segregated tournaments.
I don't know if there are any separate women leagues or events in motor sport, but I for one can't really see many women competing successfully with men there.

Of course there will always be exceptions (e.g. Judit Polgar, Scarlett) but across the board (no pun intended) it seems that even the sports that require little to no physical strength or endurance will be most likely be dominated by men. Maybe it is just a testosterone thing? Is this idea so outrageous that it must not be true, regardless of all indications?

Could it be possible that women might be less inclined to compete in these sports and therefore the pool of potential female champions is way smaller? Who knows?

Maybe a combination? Whatever the reasons, the results are pretty clear.

I've read about a sociobiological insight that women, with respect to numerous features, are to a bigger extent centered around the mean and men being sort of a crapshoot. That would provide some explanation for why there are more men rising to the top in various prestigious categories but also outnumbering women in places like mental institutions or prisons.

Here, if I remember correctly, this was applied to a few interesting social phenomena.

male only tournament pls

send applications to [email protected]

lol, nice site to post something like this on :D

yeah, like an almost exclusively male forum was ever going to be big on that idea...

n1 @ OP

That'd be 2ez money for quetz

I would bet for Zanzan if she's female (I don't trust Zhu).

$10? Wow!

see Boyz, this is what I'm talking about. They are taking over the internet :S

It's all good.

All the female gamers hate each other anyways :-/

" No seriously, I think girls would deserve such a tournament and would even donate $10 or so for a price."

you can slip it into zanzans g-string like a boss when she wins!

i would not be outraged if such a tournament would happen, but i dont think it really needs to be in quake as much as it is in something like boxing or the annual arm wrestling/jar opening championships. these things mean well but it is tiring sometimes to see it everywhere.. i used to dj some years ago andsaw it all the time in there too and to be given a gig forr having tits and basically being sold for eye candy instead of track selection or skill is a bit insulting.

i would like this only for the fact maybe i would meet more female quakers because for duel i only can think of zanzan (in ctf ania is very good probably the best and fragstealer, amerie and crazygirl)

but if you are doing it for gender then why not for other minorities also like for example black people or hispanic, or hispanic women cheeky cheeky!
well, maybe to look at it not so much as "they are girls and they suck so give them their owen tournament" but more as "thereare tournaments for individual countries so why not" i dont know.

whatever i would not compete in this because i am terrible at duel. you can pay me $10 to play space ctf if you want though :p

for black people?

jamalz would win hands down

Black people? But the gametype isn't Capture Steal The Flag!

only on esr

...and on my hardrive, but I decided not to post it ;).

+1

tl:dr: "you can slip it into zanzans g-string like a boss when she wins!"

Sums it up nicely really.

I think a "X only" tournament in a discipline where being male/female/whatever isn't an advantage is acceptable if the goal is to know who is the best within X.

Guys some funny comments OK, but basically I think you are not right, when you say, there are no differences. Look at chess, that is a good example. You have also women only tournaments. In top 100 people, there is only one woman in there I think.

What's the proportion of female players on lower levels?

the thing is - feminists and people that are overwhelmed with the idea of "a girl can do better whatever a man can do" would never accept the fact that men and women are different in so many ways, which results in women being weaker in so many things, which, in turn, doesn't mean shit because our goals and ways of reaching personal happiness and success are completely different.
Same here - people brainwashed with feminism through the years are trying to defend "gurls" as being as capable as guys in all kinds of sports, including heavy-mindwork-demanding disciplines as chess or Quake. Or smth like that).

I've seen just a few totally happy women in my life - no wonder that they were exactly what they are - women. Little girls deep inside, beautiful creatures made for love, to be loved and caressed, happy by side of their men, while following and supporting at all times, keeping the "fireplace" welcoming and magnetizing, the pride, joy and, let's say "energy storage" for the couple or even the whole big family. - The ingredients of any woman's happiness, unless you are have been programmed to constantly try shifting to a gear you don't even have in your gearbox, which results in hysteria, wasted resources and accusations of everyone around in personal failures and fuckups.

The thing is - the female only cup would be a great-great show and insanely bright fun for every participant, viewer and anyone in the vicinity, if it were done with the understanding of who is whom and accepting the truth, the facts, the joy of being yourself.

Slip a buck into zanzan's g-strings? why the hell not - girls of Quake are marvellous, beautiful and sexy - haven't seen even one that doesn't make you want her in the first place. Back in the days seen some female CS teams - they're not even close, for the most part (although they have a few hot babes too). G-strings or not, the case goes like this: beautifully dressed hotties with fire of challenge in their eyes and tender curves to raise your heartbeat to a lightspeed would definitely put up a good show if done properly, without that 'deal with us like we're men' shit.

I know the first reaction of the average eu or na or even aus esr customer after reading all this -"what a sexist, die in hell, etc.", but nature were constructing men and women for millions of years, developing quite different abilities for the sexes, and no matter what laws are enforced, no matter how hard you try to push girls into science or male sports, or leading positions - the inner structure remains the same and tends to bring people to harmony with themselves and with the world. Such is a law of nature, which cannot be deleted. Feminists are trying to shift-del the naturally developed hardware, furiously pressing all the keys, missing the fact that you can only do it by physical disintegration. Or do they really miss this fact:)??

Peace out, my fellow gladiators;)!
Don't forget to quit QL until it's fixed, or just play more q3;))).

did someone say something?

rare exceptions only justify the common rule

The point was that nurture plays an important role too, because the environments of these women influenced their development into warriors. It's nature and nurture, like so many other things.

so much fo bein subtle :<

You are quite eloquent but sadly your argument is weak as it's based on what you "have seen" and some broscience about evolution.

wat the fuck

That's what I said in #20.

actually a decent idea, you have my sword.

Such cup would certainly boost the morale of winner

This sounds like a good place to find a mate.

"The question is how to stop Agent etc. to join the tournament, smashing them and stealing the 1st price?"

Easy. Photo of breasts with timestamp/username written on them must be posted on esr to allow entry.
:^)

Of course, I should add that Amalik pty ltd does not encourage blatant sexism. And I understand that these players might have misgivings about posting such pictures to esr.
To solve that, I propose that they can send these pics to me instead for verification. :^)

For real though, be nice to girls in gaming. Sexual harassment isn't cool.

Would support, but wouldn't watch because there aren't a lot of female Quakers on the highest level and games will be blow-outs. Not to mention the sexist/vulgar comments on stream chat.

You can disable chat though, but ok if you don't wanna watch lower levels =D

I'm fine with lower levels. Just not seeing all games being 20-0's because 5% of the female Quaker population is more committed to the game than the other 95% who spend all their time trying to match their nailpolish with their outfit, than to invest time into getting the best in Quake.
And I don't blame them, since Quake is a game for fat elitist-nerds and these gamergirls aren't trying to impress you- but people who are cool IRL.

So unless you guys are as cool as a DDK or a Purri, why bother with a cup like this. You aren't gonna get any anyways.

They* not me.

Heck, I support any Quake tournament. Even if its an exclusive one for Libertarian Tibetans.

Librarian spartans?

Good idea if we have a chance to get some live interviews with girls. It would be more interesting to get insight of how these girls see Quake and whole this community.

pff please, the game's got only one half significant tournament per year plus some pocket money online tournaments at the moment and you're suggesting that the player pool should be segregated.

fucking discrimination of men!

That wouldn't be such a great idea, it would just make even more tensions in the quake female players group If you want to gather them, make a fun CA show match or w/e but you should not do smth in a competitive way, it would just please men...

what's wrong with the procesess of women pleasing men?

zanzan is furiously stroking his hairy penis while reading this

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c'mon

This isn't a physical sport. Gender is meaningless in quake skill. Why the hell would you bother to make a distinction and make a female-only tourney? Hell, we can hardly get a tourney, period. Stop digging for special treatment or some gimmicky way to see who is a female in the game.

misandrist bitch

Sounds like an original and positive idea, if it's executed correctly and would be a refreshing tournament idea, albeit could attract minor negative attention since some people watching could be stupid (running into stupid people is a risk in life and on the internet no matter what gender you are though :D).

Quakecon in 2005 had a Ms. Quakecon tournament (dominated by girlz Of Destruction iirc... 5 placements in the top 10), ESWC has a specialist event for Female CS teams, and there were closed Quake cups based on country of residence, both on ESL and privately organised ones (i remember GB, IE and those filthy Poles all organising successful ones in either QL or CPM.

It's an interesting idea but probably not a very realistic one though from an organisational point of view. + Round hurr it's a lot more interesting to watch an evil vs cypher final for the seven hundred and ninety first time as well))

Hey CMSS, that tourney is for you!

http://i.imgur.com/aGVaza7.jpg

10/10

none of those cockshit dickfucks mentioned alyx vance lol i hope they get kankeraids

They haven't mentioned Lucy either.

I don't fully understand why they mentioned Sofia instead of Eleanor from BS2.

http://www.games2girls.com/p/beautycontest

http://www.gorgeousgamers.com/

Stupid sexist idea. Then we should also make male only tournaments.