i hope not...

F3 was medicore, same as FNV... Change of rulset didnt exactly help the game, and i feel its much easier in the start than it was in the orginal series... some of awesomeness went away...


so no: i dont want any more fallouts... especially from bethesda

Fallout 3 was just a bad game with poor dialogs and uninteresting, infantile story. Terrible game by a terrible studio.

FNV on the other hand was the complete opposite. Very nice dialogs and characters, nice storyline. The game was done partially by old Fallout makers. It had it's flaws and it wasn't on the exact same level of old Fallouts but it was the only RPG worth playing since some time when it came out. Plus it had Fantastic in it, best NPC in the history of RPGs =)

Fallout 4 will be done by the same team that did Fallout 3, not by the FNV team. This will probably be another half-baked game that shits on the Fallout franchise.

Hopefully, really enjoyed Fallout 3 and NV.

Though it'll always be hated by "hardcore fallouters".

have you played orginal fo's?

Yes.

and you dont know why "hardcore fallouters" hate f3 and nv?

They don't, only elitist hipster pricks "hate it" - it's cool to be one of those "pfff I play old fallouts so ya'll niggaz playin' new fallouts r just not hardcore 8)"

If you attended nomutantsallowed which is one of the biggest fallout fanbase sites you'd know that hating on newer fallouts is just a #trend #twitter #fresh #2009 thing. Actually no, it dates back to fo2.

You know that fo2 is "hated" because of the new reno part? Some (a lot) people argue that new reno is too whorish and shiny, doesn't fit the atmosphere and ruin the game despite being Avellone's idea. Fo2 has certain clashes with the storyline, but it's not as noticeable in fo3 (how did FEV spread to the east? :O)

NV storyline and 3/4 of the game was from obsidian, Chis Avellone himself worked on NV and he IS fallout. Not sure how much falloutish can it get with him on the team.

Fo3 was a bit bland but still a great experience, I would really like NV features and storyline set in the fo3 area. Granted the first two games in the series are much more memorable, compelling story wise and fit the fallout franchise better and the first two games still hold a special place in my heart <3

As for fo4, I think it's "over" - it became a major selling name and they're going to do everything so the console kids enjoy it and buy it.

Luckily enough, fallout has a huge modding community, I don't even remember how NV/FO3 is supposed to look like originally, because it's the mods that make them so good. So maybe there's hope for fo4, but all in all I think they've drained the cow.

tl;dr

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I remember installing F3 and right after I escaped from the home vault (15min of gameplay), I encountered a supermutant with minigun. I killed him with my 10mm pistol and uninstalled the game right after.
Fallout 3 is oblivion with guns, excatly what the fallout community feared before its release.

While F:NV is a much better game overall, I never got the original fallout feeling: emptiness and despair filled with black humour.
It feels like there are more cities than there were before the war and what really kills the whole atmosphere are the dialogues. Those are just pathethic.

Comparing f3/NV to f 1&2 is like comparing dungeon siege to baldurs gate.

good post but as you can see by his reply ppl like hitsu aint worth it, theyre hopeless.

but you're right. im a massive fo fan, i grew up on that shit, and i enjoyed both fo3 and nv thoroughly. they're different, deal with it and take it for what it is. that doesnt mean it's bad or that you cant enjoy them.

as you pointed out nv was developed by obsidian, and it shows tbh., writing is better. my favourite part was prolly white glove society situation. ~~

i'd say it was worth playing both, for the soundtrack alone, as they introduced me to such amazing music.

as for OP, i dont really give a shit.
what i find more relevant atm is the recently released wasteland 2 early gameplay video. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9hQWqtxXPU

Yep, I'm eager to see how Wasteland will develop in the future, they still have a lot of time to improve it.

Any further wasteland comments ->

The most common complaint about FO2 is that they overdid it with pop-culture references, inside jokes and easter eggs. I didn't mind that much myself but apparently it takes some people out of the experience, which i think is understandable. I wouldn't say it's hated though, perhaps by a vocal few, but generally speaking it's seen as a perfectly legit successor to the first one. I personally only take any exception to San Francisco, it seemed too out of place, what with the Hubologists (lol) and their prize celebrities. It was way too silly.

Canon consistency is sacred to some people, and even though i didn't care that much about it in FO2 or in Tactics, because they were quite simply superb games, it completely ruins FO3 for me. There's just too much stupid shit in it to look past, and that's too bad because if not for the terrible writing i think this would have been a good game. And i know that for a fact because i thoroughly enjoyed New Vegas, and the only thing that separates those two games is, actually, writing. Lots of other people like me who grew up with the first two Fallout games received NV very warmly and proclaimed it the real sequel to the originals, and that includes some of the most hardcore FO3 haters from communities like NMA or RPG Codex.

By the way, if you hang around NMA then you probably know that already, but just in case you don't, and you're feeling nostalgic, give Fallout 2 a spin with Killap's restoration mod. Shit's fucking fantastic, almost a completely new experience.

Played killap's restoration + high res mod, I've always played with a lot of int because I liked the fact that it reveals more quests, story, encounters etc, but in my last plays I tried int 3 and it was awesome, most NPCs won't even bother talking to you.
The hubologist thing and famos actor names were a bit off putting, at least they shouldn't make them such a big faction. I think bethesda cannot allow themselves to use such morbid humor in their fallout titles, that's why I fear fo4 will be a console jerking flop.

Fo4 is currently not in development.

Would like to see Fallout 4 with id Tech 5. The textures in FO3 and NV were really bland and repetitive.

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I just want a new elder scrolls, fuck FO.

NV tried edgy & funny, and failed completely in my opinion. I never felt any connection to any character in the game and just did what the quests asked like a robot for 10 hours, having all the while to suffer the terrible jokes. Then I never launched it again.

As long as the writing is as good as in the first two Fallouts and in New Vegas, i'm all for it. If it's supposed to be like in Fallout 3, then no thank you, a brain tumor for every time i think about a town built around a nuclear bomb, communities of little children, farm republics, superhero npc's, pseudo-vampires living in a subway station and other shit like that is quite enough.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/15187/2...da-job.htm

Fallout 4 development went from "not in production" to "three dog posted something on twitter"

Fallout 4 with Skyrim's creation engine?