DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

sounds really great, lots of prize money, paid trips, qualifiers and invitations, ... also looking forward to the coverage street speaks of in the interview:

Something that makes PLAY different from any other online tournament site is that we bring in a lot of writing coverage. Pre-tournament interviews, previews of groups, matches, analysis, give aways for our fans and content have been an integral part of almost every tournament we have ran so far

That's over 9000!

Beijing Asia? xD

as far as i am aware, china is in asia, isnt it? ;)

ye im just sad it isnt in London, Europe :P

Shit, that's a nice prize pot.

not really...30-35k will go towards cs...being optimistic and saying only 30k then that leaves 12,500 euros~
probably top 3 pay out similar to: $7k, $5k, $3k

unlikely that 4th/lower will get prizes but their travel is covered & they get to explore beijing/further if they can arrange a longer return flight with the people so the experience makes it worth it~

do they have some dodgy 16+ rule or can burnedd enter?

Well, yeah it is a great prize pot in general considering it's not a major world tournament like WCG/WSVG/ESWC/MLG/CPL/<insert acronym here>.

WCG/MLG are the only big ones there. neither supports QL

All of those tournaments/leagues are or were more than just 'big'.

.. and dude, I didn't even mention QL.

Would've liked to see tdm instead but anything with that kind of money and LAN is obviously good for the community.

Duel again, boooring. I'm curious'll they pay out the prizemoney, since they didn't even pay out the 100 bucks for that CA sh!t : ). As far as I know, even big organizations (like ESWC, CPL) didn't payout. Soon it'll be almost same risky to being a progamer, as working in the building industry. : )

Yeah it's pretty common that organization doesn't playout, at least a few years ago.

this time msi is sponsoring the tournament so i wouldnt worry

No one wants to be defeated - showin how funky and strong is your fight - it doesn't matter who's wrong or right - just beat it

*Van Halen guitar solo*

really?

Yeah.

BEAT IT BEAT IT BEAT IT BEAT IT NOONE WANTS TO BE DEFEATED

Nice to see proteams organise these huge tournaments, even more so when it's QL along with CS that's getting embraced for the LAN.
Assuming that QL DUEL gets picked up for IEM 5 however, I would, along with some people around here as evident, prefer to see a teamgame (I'm a fan of mixed gametypes instead of just TDM tho) tournament. But then again, it may very well be the 1v1 format's lower cost (1/ 5 or 4 for travel costs and probably a 45/6=7.5 or only a slightly bigger prizepurse) that made it the choice.

You know a lot of QL teams with sponsors that can send them to a LAN? This is I think the main problem of introducing QL team gametypes in big tourney series.

Fnatic is paying for the travel costs right now, so it's about fnatic's expanse right now.

Heroes of Newerth

go fox!!!

CTF or TDM - the only way to keep Quake Live ALIVE, and interesting for ppl/audience.

We need:

1. Many good admins and smart org,
2. Ppl who will make frag movies of each tourney,
3. Ppl who will make arts for teams/org. leagues/cups,
4. CTF/TDM league for Pro players and CTF /TDM league for starters/mid skilled players,
5. New maps for CTF/TDM,
6. Coaches,
7. Perfect stream cfg,
8. Top e-sport org. ql rosters (atm only fnatic/lll/4kings/infused have ql squad),
9. QL chat new verison (smth like mirc but inside QL),
10. Show matches
11. Strict rules for all the legues, same for all the players
12. More stuff like demos/vods/interviews/coverages
13. Force pro players plays with there real names/2nd names instead of nicks,
14. Force pro players use there real pics,
15. Make a PRO player accounts (not only spawn button),
16. Quake on WCG (I can't understand what is the problem here?, c'mon ID pay some money to sneaky koreans)
17. Lan version for QL :)
18. more head admins for QL (One SyncError can't do all the work with community)

P.S. This product can be popular like cs, but seems that no one really cares... It's a pitty

P.P.S. All my real life friends who don't know anything about pc gaming, enjoy watching CTF and TDM on PRO level.

ID don't give a shit about ql atm. Game looks pretty abandoned to me.

agree with most of the stuff but in-game coaches should definately be left out

what if for example russia plays from a netcafe and has 2 dedicated timers standing behind them?

Cooller/Fortune do not play from netcafe. I play from netcafe, cos at home i have huge pings to any serer for about 2months, and i can't fix it, also i can't change provider. Last match vs Finland, Sapego played from home also.

What if noctis sitting at his house with his superb smart friend, who count all powerups and items for him?

Stop making excuses, noctis got ya. Now everyone knows Russia plays with timers, if you don't honestly admit it you'll only make fool of yourself.

it was a made up example to make a point

but yeah, i should have known you would reply like that, sorry.

u totally lost the point

At the top level duel will keep quake alive a lot easier than team modes. At lower levels people might prefer team modes, so leagues for us is a good idea, but I think the uniqueness of duel, much smaller travel costs and ease of following the action makes it much more promising to see the game grow as an e-sport.

But duels are boring to watch. CTF is way more intertaining and exciting.

That's completely opinion based. For me there's too much down time and it's too easy to miss the action when watching a CTF stream. With duel I will see pretty much everything from one point of view, and everything I miss is shown on a very good overlay.
This is going from s spectator POV, I understand a lot more people might enjoy actually playing CTF. For the player base to grow I agree with son1dow, pick ups and leagues for everyone is a great bit to work on.

Well CTF can be SUPERB for watchers ->

http://www.thg.ru/technews/images/4game-190609.jpg

u will see all the action!

I prefer watching duel, but from what you said, with the help of MVD i would enjoy CTF/TDM too :)

Add MVD to the list !

now that's an awesome cybercafe

I find both TDM and CTF very tedious and boring to watch, but I know that for quake in general to grow there needs to be a mix of TDM, CTF and duels.

It's understandable why most tournaments decide to go for duels though :)

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It's your opinion.

A mix of TDM\CTF\2v2 > one of them, ever since CTF is 4v4
nicknames > names
no coaches ingame
nobody cares about pics
most stream cfgs are ok

I think what we mostly need is promotion and growth of pickups for that, some more support from id and then some organisers and teams picking the game up

nicknames are not solid
coaches/managers i mean
I cares about pics, with good art work, it makes ppl wanna be part of e-sport
Need to make a perfect one, some things are not cool (like marks).

I'm new to Quakelive but followed the duel scene for quite some time now. Espeacilly Vo0 pwning @ painkiller got me interested in fps. After painkiller vanished from the scene I didn't care that much about fps anymore and played 1.6 24/7 -.-. Then I tried some warsow without any appreciable succes coz I hated getting raped and so I stopped playing warsow. 1.6 again :P.

There were always a few factors, which kept me off dueling:
- lack of beginners and friends playing it
- hard to learn comparing to 1.6, lack of any noticabel succes for beginners
- kinda frustrating to get stomped over and over :P
- cfg ; I know that having his own individual cfg and hud is what a lot of players enjoy about quake but as a beginner I want to play and don't waste my time whether it is better to play with fov 90 or 120. Not to mention +vstr binds LQL

Besides the listed points above I don't see any big future for either tdm/ctf or any other team shooter out there. Tdm is kinda boring to watch and non quakers don't even get it why it is important to have a rail near by dm6 ra. All they see is people shooting each other randomly and that's it. However ctf is pretty easy to understand but imo there are too little actions in 20 min compared to a tight 16:14 1.6 game with aces, ninjadefuse and so on.

On the other hand duel has everything you need for a big eSport game.

- man vs man; hero/loser
- everybody understands it
- close games (cooller vs rapha @ iem finals)
- different personalities

a very honest and unbiased post for a change

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I like how people agree with you, but don't really reply. Like cheerleaders, they celebrate your comment. Now I give you non-cheerleader response:

You get beat over and over, well so did everyone else. It takes years maybe, of losing 50-0, before you learn anything. CS players, of the time they only are, I win 25-0, with 150 ping, against 30 ping, after only two weeks in counter-strike. It is pussy-game for 2 fingered-players (and by 2-fingered, I mean they are lame as fuck).

Maybe there could be some kind of educational, progressional institution, or maybe people could just stop being pussies, and put in the same time and pain everyone else did?

Arte, arte, fuck you. I don't know 'fuck you' in Basque, but some day i'll learn.

So what's your point? We all know that 1.6 is a easy game for pussies and idiots ... But hey, it doesn't change the facts that 1.6 was way bigger for the last years than quake or any duel game.

Maybe I was a pussy back then but for a 16 year old guy who wasn't used to losing, it is hard to get to the point of having posetive stats instead of constantly blowin' yourself up with rockets in close combat.

Perhaps Quake doesn't need new players for the pro scene. I don't know. But I know that new players are essential for a community to grow otherwise most new players will stay away from the game. I just stated the obvious based on my own personal view and experiences and your bashing me for that.

Btw. meanwhile I'm kinda used to losing and getting better ;)

:)
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well answering you:
you should find regular opponents that are in your skillleague to practice, add them, also you could invite higher skilled players that are not complete asshole to play with you/talk about your performance



you should add me in ql (nametag=t1e) if you have <100 ping to netherland/german servers

I agree that TDM is the most interesting game mode atm, but it needs alot of love from ID to make it really good. Unfortunately ID doesn't seem to be interested in doing anything right now.

so.. what you need is some decent Q3 ?
let me remember... everyone left to play QL.

well, welcome to Beijing, Everyone are cordial welcome to stay. We have many food,view,entertainment,east culture,and Rocketboy :)

and a lot of freaking communism and oppression...

rofl communism? China is the most capitalist country in the world.

they are quite communist as far as personal rights/freedoms and freedom of press etc.

China is still a police state ,capitalist or not

what are you talking about

peoples republic of china

explain how theyre communist

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1891067#pid1891067

its not actually communism ,but you know very well what i mean

Yeah, free market and everything. Not.

BOYCOTT BEIJING OLYMPICS !!

dont forget the barbershops ;D wo ai jinv~

But we'll be hungry again for Quake action 30 minutes later.

AFTER 1 YEAR GONE FNATIC STILL DIDNT PAY THE PRIZES OF ITS CLANARENA TOURNEY. Well they made some nice PROMISES tho. A very fvcked up organisation imho.

If I was them I'd just pay the money out of pocket, reputation's worth more. But as they said, it was a bad sponsor and all the others (and there were quite a few) paid out, so I wouldn't worry even if I didn't know that the sponsor was MSI.

Topic has been discussed a thousand times and whilst i agree it sucks that they were unable to pay the prizes out, or instead paid it out of their own pocket, the sponsor pulled out, and i'm sure it was written somewhere in small print :)

I guess they take clan arena as seriously as everyone else

:D

I see what you did there.

so Fnatic have a QL LAN server just like ESL?

I don't think that they themselves have a server but I'd guess that they probably could spawn servers with permission from id.

It would be a nightmare if they play the final in Korea or Japan servers because in China the connection to these 2 countries are always bad.

and theyre full of rìben guizi & gaolì bàng zi !

Schedule

QuakeLive Qualifier #1 - June 19th
QuakeLive Qualifier #2 - June 20th


/facepalm

to confirm

there are to be 16 invitations, the remaining players have to qualify.

yeah but its the same date as dreamhack =(

lvl^ will probably cover both Dreamhack and the Fnatic.play games. Yes it's a shame they happen at the same time, but nothing we can do about it now..

\o/

Great to see MSI pumping even more money into eSports!! I love it!!

I just wish we could get some TDM or CTF :(

tbh duel is WAY better than other modes :D solid argument isnt it!

Not so fun to play.

imho is missing

flag by

sweet :D

how about making an event post for that tourney

Will do soon.

Yeh I was actually wondering why there is a schedule known, but no individual QL signup or tournament page... only COD

The reason major events don't have team tourneys is because they have CS for that, they only need Quake Live to fill up the 1v1 FPS gap. As well as that duel attracts a lot more spectators, and is easier to explain to an esports (so not a specific Quake) follower.

Yeah I imagine it's a lot easier to sell to sponsors if it's a clearly different format to 1.6.

Change the freaking qualification dates already. All top players will be at dreamhack, except for the "top player" guard.

n1 m8 :D

what kind of tone is that?
besides there are also 16 invites (afaik) and 2 more qualifiers.

Tbh, still havnt paid out prizes since 1 year back? A tone is called for.

true :(

why are people mentioning CTF?

CTF at the moment, in QLive anyways, is the biggest pile of sh*t on earth (compared to osp/cpma days).

stop it.

I've always viewed it as any team games with respawns are fairly boring and confusing for the newer viewer.

That's not to say that clan arena is the future, [because it's shit.] A game needs an objective and different ways of obtaining that. Hense why CS is so popular for spectators. If a player dies, that's him out of the fold. No need to pay attention to him now. It matters more to stay alive and play up. The players have to plant the bomb in either location and have strategies on how to go about doing this. There is a beginning and an end and the way the rounds play out differ each time (it's not just take point A, take point B, take point C as with TF2 or DOD).

This is why (in my opinion anyway) respawn team games have never really caught on spectator wise as much as duel or team games whereby a players life means a little bit more (if you die in TDM from a spawn, it's kinda like - meh, try again). As I mentioned before, I'm mainly talking about games like TF2, DOD, etc.

Quake TDM doesn't suffer as much, but I'd guess most of the people watching it already play or understand TDM anyway so it's kind of a non-point. The only difference is that there is a single (or sometimes double as with CS) objective in the shape of quad/battle suit and how they are utilized. With TF2 and DOD... It's flags. Not really as game changing as a bomb or a power-up. Game deciding sure... but meh. I think the way that 2GD was explaining TDM in his shoutcasts really helped newcommers understand the actual gameplay of TDM instead of it just appearing to be a ffa.

edit: TL;DR? - SHITWILLYBUMFUCKTITS

TL;DR :[[[

At least China is getting involved with Quake Live. Show me why, all 'liberals', or communists and socialist types, are more quake-oriented, and capitalists are so rts-oriented.

China is communistic..

haha no, just because the "communist party" is named the way it is doesn't mean it's communist. Learn your facts before you write something. China abandoned communism in the economic reform in the early 80'ies, lead by Deng Xiaoping. China has huge economic inequality, higher then most other capitalist states. If China is a communist state then I'm black.

la3o he1i

oki, was more meant as a question but sho mate. They do come across communistic from what I've heard from my dad, who travels there every month or so. Not capitalistic at all.

Be careful though, in Beijing. It is the strategy of 'Asians', to breed excessively and then immigrate around the world, affecting politics towards towards Asian agenda's. The women deliberately sex themselves favorably towards suitors, especially of different races, so as to procreate more people of Asian political-support.

It is really quite diabolical, as it is legal but more effective than a military campaign... yes, the sexual/immigration-campaign to control world-politics. Maybe people would be upset too, if they didn't have Asian-girlfriends.

First thing I thought of was Dird

Free browjobs?

are you really understand about "sexual/immigration-campaign to control world-politics."

pure bullshit.