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Interview with Found Em (66 comments)
Posted by Memento_Mori @ 15:52 CDT, 4 August 2015 - iMsg
It's saturday night in Dallas, United States of America Rapha just won the stage match against Russia Evil, and everyone is celebrating and enjoying the end of Quakecon 2015.

It's 3:30am and I get the chance to sit down on the interview couch, my fellow audio recorder at hand, and chat with United States of America Rapha, United States of America cl0ck and United States of America ZeRo4. They are the core of team United States of America Found Em, who had gone through an incredible series of events (and lineups) leading up to this tournament.

At first I thought this would be a short interview with just Rapha touching a specific topic, but as the flood gates open wide, and more team members join the chat and add their perspective, I realize this is going to be a large piece, with many topics and side stories.

We end up staying there for more than one hour, going over the whole story of their preparation to the tournament, all the different line ups, and the behind the scene of some of the most dramatic acts.


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Edited by Memento_Mori at 16:09 CDT, 4 August 2015 - 1728 Hits
Is av3k out of prison yet? (9 comments)
Posted by mray557 @ 13:58 CDT, 4 August 2015 - iMsg
If not, can someone send him a message for me?

I was just thinking about av3k while having a cup of coffee here. How is that guy man? is he doing okay in prison?
Edited by mray557 at 14:14 CDT, 4 August 2015 - 220 Hits
is obs multiplatform broken? (No comments)
Posted by 7ep3s @ 12:16 CDT, 4 August 2015 - iMsg
why does it use up all my upload and stream with 4000kbps when i clearly set it up to be capped at 2500?
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Microsoft serial numbers (2 comments)
Posted by silikone @ 11:03 CDT, 4 August 2015 - iMsg
How do you decode the serial numbers on Microsoft mice? Here is an image for reference.

I'm not sure what any of these mean, but I read that the four large digits are the date, although its format seems inconsistent. This one appears to be week-year, but I have seen some mice that apparently have this reversed.
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Cheat or not ? (10 comments)
Posted by lapinou @ 10:50 CDT, 4 August 2015 - iMsg
Hey,

I duelled this guy and saw him playing few hours ago and I was wondering if there was something suspicious about him.
I managed to record 2 demos of him, one playing versus a beginner and one versus me.

I spotted some suspicious moment, around 2.20, great lg track and around 8:37 he seems to lock the dead body. Plus a guy on the server told me that he was a cheater.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7wMhwUSrHI
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Does Yellack still make quakelive maps? (13 comments)
Posted by crunkus @ 03:23 CDT, 4 August 2015 - iMsg
Really like the maps he's made so far.
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3v3 CPMA CTFS Draft Cup (3 comments)
Posted by Sylver @ 18:51 CDT, 3 August 2015 - iMsg
After polls and Doodles, it's time to get to the serious business. It's now settled, the fun is calling you for some awesome CPMA CTFS action on 16th of August (Sunday), around 8pm CEST.

As this is a draft cup, some time will be allocated to build the teams, but this shouldn't take long as teams will be of 3-4 max (CTFS is meant to be 3v3).

The real format will still depend on the amount of people that show up, with a minimum of 4 teams to really make something. The primary goal is to make sure everyone is having a good time and that people play as many games as possible. We will then preferably go for a round robin instead of a double elimination bracket. A grand final is to be expected for a nice ending.

Format and mappool are open to discussion/changes.

We will be waiting for you on IRC @ #ctfsdraft.






Streams: TBA (Feel free to propose your help)
Admins: France Sylver, Switzerland myT, TBA...
Links: mIRC #ctfsdraft
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Frag-o-Matic 17.1 Duel Map pool (1 comment)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 18:36 CDT, 3 August 2015 - iMsg
Aerowalk
Battleforged
Blood Run
Campgrounds
Cure
Dismemberment
Elder
Furious Heights
Hektik
House of Decay
Lost World
Silence
Sinister
Toxicity

  (view results, discard poll)
Here you can vote for the maps you'd like to see on Frag-o-Matic LAN.

Multiple choices allowed per user.
There's also a strawpoll running here.

Links: Links: Frag-o-Matic Official, GameType Poll, Main thread
Edited by Teen Queen at 18:37 CDT, 3 August 2015 - 147 Hits
where u see yoruself in 10 years (11 comments)
Posted by dizzle @ 15:38 CDT, 3 August 2015 - iMsg
dizzle in 10 year
level: site admin
country: uk or
money: ∞
and
raisin lil dizzle to be just like me but better

where do you see yourself in 10 years?
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Edited by xou at 04:56 CDT, 4 August 2015 - 720 Hits
QuakeCon 2015 Player mice database (24 comments)
Posted by Nofri @ 14:38 CDT, 3 August 2015 - iMsg
Along with QC configs being released(thx SyncError) it would be informative to make the list of mouse and possibly dpi players were using there aswell. So if you can sort that out by the photos from quakecon or have "insider" information/been at quakecon urself pls share this info with us.
So far i can only comeup with the most obvious ones:
upd.
Winz-Logitech G100S-1000dpi with G303 sensor inside(unconfirmed)
L1nkin-Logitech G100S-1000dpi
Noctis-Logitech G100S-1000dpi
Rapha-WMO 1.1-400dpi
Tox-WMO 1.1-400dpi
_____________________________
421-Logitech G100S-1000dpi
Zyrinx-Logitech G100S
Dahang-Zowie FK
Cypher-Razer Salmosa-800dpi(unconfirmed)
Clawz-Zowie FK/WMO 1,1(unconfirmed)
Latrommi-Logitech G400-800dpi

Anyone to add?
Edited by Nofri at 08:56 CDT, 4 August 2015 - 991 Hits
ThermalTake keyboards. (7 comments)
Posted by skint @ 14:17 CDT, 3 August 2015 - iMsg
Does anyone have any experience with the ThermalTake tt esports keyboards? I'm looking to buy a keyboard and I have been looking at the Ducky Zero Shine 3 TKL, the Cooler Master Quickfire Rapid-I and a couple of others around this price range but I'm not sure if I can really come to terms with spending £90+ on a keyboard.
An alternative I have found is the Thermaltake Tt eSPORTS POSEIDON ZX which I can get from America for £60 which uses Kaihl switches instead of the more expensive Cherry.

What are peoples experiences of these keyboards or if you know of a better product around the £60 mark. I'd like back lighting and ten key less.
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34_ aka Zubich is still cheating (30 comments)
Posted by frequenzangriff @ 05:21 CDT, 3 August 2015 - iMsg
ID admins ignore it :>
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz5-mbr6c04
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meet dizzle irl =] (20 comments)
Posted by dizzle @ 01:48 CDT, 3 August 2015 - iMsg
i wanted to always since i join to make use of friend list feature but only wem420 has got me on friend list and i want more more more

if you friend add me an i will add u visa versa

add me friends !!!!!!!

we can strong together. with you buddy dizzle
who know u mabe meet me irl anyday @ lan =]
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Will Quake ever be popular in Asia? (12 comments)
Posted by crunkus @ 22:24 CDT, 2 August 2015 - iMsg
Do you think quake or an competitive fps will ever reach mass base of players in asia?
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Site summary for week ending 31 Jul (7 comments)
Posted by ESReality @ 18:00 CDT, 2 August 2015 - iMsg
Edited by Teen Queen at 01:51 CDT, 3 August 2015 - 498 Hits
legend quotes from the best of all times (60 comments)
Posted by dizzle @ 17:08 CDT, 2 August 2015 - iMsg
have all this talk from recent quakecon about da future of quake live and what is going to happen.

yeah sure we can worry about it but we all know what happen in 5 years. we still playin and blazin with this game.

reach into your memories on quake. it can be anything. remember it.
select it carefully. the legendary moment or quote or something from quake past. that you remember forever. make this game what it is. defines it.

for me personal
RAPHA, the best champion. a true. true. true. legend of quake live.
"A game like this wouldnt be as good as it was if it wasn't for the opponent that was across from me, these games don't mean anything unless the opponent is as good as you or better"

best quote in quake living history =]
rapha is the best

accident for my thread. i should put it in quake live forum.
Edited by Teen Queen at 01:54 CDT, 3 August 2015 - 1556 Hits
wishlist for ql updates (70 comments)
Posted by gojira_ @ 08:51 CDT, 2 August 2015 - iMsg
I know Syncerror doesn't rarely responds here. I doubt he reads esr often these days. I don't blame him. I've made some idiotic posts myself so it's no mystery.

I've become very much a non gamer these days. There are many reasons but mostly it's due to quakes decline. I'd love to get sucked back into it. If there were certain changes, particularly an increased population for other game modes or even more variety with modding gamemodes I'd come back and like a junky looking for his next fix.

What desirable updates would you wish for?
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Easter eggs (44 comments)
Posted by artemis4 @ 07:53 CDT, 2 August 2015 - iMsg
What are all easter eggs in ql? I know theres egg on repent, cure, realm of steel rats, chemical reaction, that doom key in qltraining...and elder i guess. Any map else?
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Why Ai's should never be smarter than us (38 comments)
Posted by quakeisalive @ 07:11 CDT, 2 August 2015 - iMsg
Before you read this just a word of warning this type of thinking has made me a very cynical person, so unless you want to be cynical like me begone!

To explain why AI's should never be smarter than us i must first explain the meaning of life. The meaning of life is happiness. Sometimes happiness may collide with morality e.g. eating meat. We all know it's wrong yet a majority of us still eat it. Some people think that they are "good" people because they are vegetarian, but when it all comes down to it they do it for their own self-satisfaction, because doing good feels good to them and better than the latter (eating meat).

Now for the dark truth of life.
This is why a lot of people become more self-centered as they get older. They realize that morality is not what makes them happy but doing stuff out of self-interest is what makes them happy. So they start going down this dark road and maybe start stealing peoples pension for extra cash. But this person decides that he does not want to steal the pensions from people close to retiring, does this make him a slightly better person? No, this still makes him a person of self-interest. He realizes that if he stole the pensions from the soon to be retirees he will feel guilt, and that guilt will form to become what is unhappiness. In short he is doing whatever he want's that makes him happy as long as it does not go too far against his moral code.

So does this mean that we are all selfish people? It's more than that. It means that morality in the end, does not really matter because it isn't the key to life. It's just the reflection of the self-interest that is society.

So then it comes to my initial question of why AI's should never be smarter than us. It's because like everyone in this world, people want to live their life to their full potential. But the smarter ones will realise that morality is an obstruction to this goal and question it's purpose. They will then come to this conclusion and as a result have a more flexible moral code. A smarter AI will figure this out much quicker and this is why we must have a limit on AI intelligence. Because we are all inherently self-interested, not morally-interested.
Edited by quakeisalive at 19:17 CDT, 2 August 2015 - 791 Hits
Dream Quake Matchups? (52 comments)
Posted by Kaboosh @ 01:45 CDT, 2 August 2015 - iMsg
Matchups you would love to see, but won't happen ever happen.

Fox vs DaHang
Av3k vs ClawZ
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Why does my QL cfg make sense ? (40 comments)
Posted by He4rTL3sS @ 20:44 CDT, 1 August 2015 - iMsg
Okay so, I'll try to explain to you all why I have certain cvars set to X, Y or Z and why after all these years playing quake I think I finally managed to get pretty much the perfect config (at least for me).

Okay, so, I begin :

1) MOVEMENTS BINDS:
As you might already know, I'm not using a standard binds configuration for movements and weapons. In fact I have R to move left, H to move right, T to move forward and G to move backward. I use this configuration because it makes my hand more relaxed and the position of it on my keyboard feels more "natural". I have also plenty of keys available around "R T G H", much more than compared to standard "W A S D". Actually I even have 5 keys that I can press only with my little finger (S for RL, X for PG, W for HMG, Z to walk and finally Q to crouch), leaving free my others fingers.
I'm playing with this binds for years and years now, never ever went back to "W A S D", since I discovered it, I got addicted pretty fast :), actually it works VERY well.

2)COLORED GRENADES (AND RAIL):
I have my own grenades set to cyan (color of my crosshair), enemies grenades set to light green (enemymodelcolor) and team mates grenades set to red (teammodelcolor). This way I can easily recognize if I can rush a choke point with plenty of nades spammed. If I see them red then I can move forward, if I see them light green, I have to be more careful :).
I have also the same set of colors for rail.

3)HUD:
I use the default hud3, which is the big one made by QL devs, it has big health and armor indicators, the scores at the bottom right corner are easy to read, the clock however seems a bit too small but I can live with it :). It's a nice hud because you can easily see if you're low hp and then +back etc. It has also color indicators such as white for lot of hp, yellow for 100hp and less and finally red for less than 25 hp. I like the fact that the hp and armor numbers are BIG, because you don't constantly look at them with your, what I would call, "focus vision". When you're engaging a shaft battle for example, your focus vision is locked at the enemymodel, but because the hp and armor numbers are big, you still see the colors etc with your "peripheral vision".
I have also the weaponbar on the middle left of my screen, so that basically every hud elements are placed all around the sides of the screen, leaving the middle of the screen almost perfectly empty for better visibility and focus on my crosshair. Also I found that placing the weaponbar in bottom middle of the screen can cause some misreading with the shaft beam and the fact that it's put horizontally makes it a bit slower to read than when it's put vertically.

4)DRAW AMMOS WARNING, DRAW FRAG MESSAGES, DRAW REWARDS:
I have both disable, because I have a sound when ammos start to get low, so the low ammo message would be redundant. And for frag message I don't need it because you have the kill beep sound with darken dead bodies and also an obituary at the top right corner of the screen.
And about the rewards like "impressive", "excellent", "headshot", "combokill" etc... I don't need it to be shown because I can hear the vadrigar voice over :). So there again, less messages/icons at the center of my screen, leaving all the space to focus on my target.

5)RAIL TRAIL AND LG BEAM:
I personally use lightningstyle 4, which is the thinnest beam of all, with drawgun 2/3 and gunx at -10, gunz at -8 and guny at 2.7 (perfectly centered beam), which makes it even thinner :). The thinner the better :). Also the LG beam can be considered as part of the crosshair, so when it's thin and perfectly centered, it's like adding a straight line from bottom to middle of the screen, that's why people sometimes don't use any crosshair for LG btw :).
Truelightning MUST be set to 1 if you don't have a ping above 80ms (when the unlagged netcode stops working). For example with 50ms all you have to do is putting your crosshair at the middle of the enemymodel, no need to anticipate the players movements like in the old days in Q3 OSP or RA3.
For the rail, I have just a translucent trail without any other bullshit and gimmicks effects like the circle around the trail or shit like these :p. Actually I have the default Q3 beam, which is perfectly fine as it is :).

4)CHATS BEEPS AND CHAT IN GENERAL:
I have a beep sound indicator only for team messages, this way if people in spec are chatting constantly you don't get the annoying beep everytime. And in team gametypes, when you hear the beep, it means that it's probably an important message like "enemy low!" or "escaping high" and so on...
Also I've set the teamchattime to last longer after the message is wrote.
And finally when I press +chat (bound to 3) I get 8 lines instead of the default 6.

5)MODEL, ENEMYMODEL AND TEAM MODEL (+ colors):
I have phobos as own model because I just like his orange suit and I like the sounds he makes while jumping, getting low on health etc. It's very short and soft sounds (also, cooller used to play with doom for years :D).
I have light red crash as teammodel, because it's the thinnest model in the game along with bones. And doom and crash could start a love story together :D, they look the same except that they male and female xD. I like crash because when you're behind a team mate you can still see the enemy in front of your mate, unlike with tankjr who probably takes 80% of the screen :D. I like also having different sounds for myself, my team mates and the enemies.
I use keel as enemymodel with lodbias set to -2. This way it's a bit bigger keel and it fits the hitbox better.
Light green as enemymodel color, pretty standard, nothing special here :).
"Tankjr gives you the illusion you hit more" (c) idoser ---> He's right, if the model is bigger it doesn't necessarily mean that you'll hit it more easily, mainly because of the hitbox size, which stays the same.
And about the "yeah but with tankjr it's easier to hit pixel rails when enemy is hidding behind pillar or wall", I asked sponge about this, and he said to me that it's only 1 frame difference with keel, so let's say it's pretty much useless. It doesn't give you any considerable advantage compared to keel.
And somehow I shaft better keel at close range than I do with tankjr. And I'm used to keel, it fits the hitbox very well, it's not to small nor big, just perfect really.
So I say it : keel > tankjr :)

6)DEMOS RECORD MESSAGE:
Set to 2, means that you don't get the whole "recording demo xxxxxxxx" message at the bottom of the screen, instead, you get a very unobtrusive "REC *" at the bottom left corner of the screen.

7)FOV AND ZOOMFOV:
Fov 90. Zoomfov 40 with instant zooming (no zoomScaling, which mean that when you press the zoom key (for me it's bound to spacebar) the zoom effect is 100% instant.
Zoomfov 40 only for long range rails. Fov 90 for all weapons.
I played for years and years with fov 100 and probably 6-8 months ago wanted to try lower fov. Tried 90, liked it, kept it up until now :D.
Why do I prefer fov 90 over any other fov ? Firstly because it's a very common and standard fov in basically 90% of the FPS on PC (not consoles, PC). CS has it to 90, TF2 aswell, overwatch will most probably be 90 aswell, bioshock, stalker, dishonored, rage, even doom, all those games have fov 90, and plently plently others fps games too. I think there's a reason why the standard fov is always 90, actually I think there are 2 main reasons : everything on the screen appears bigger (the environment, the models etc) and there's less "distortion" at the sides of the screen.
So yeah, bigger enemymodel, less distortion of the image, and also 1 last thing : it's easier and more visible to make tiny mouse's movements with a low fov than with a high fov.
And I think there's a reason why most of the pro players abuse the zoom. Fov 90 is actually like a minizoom :).
Oh and also, it makes medium/long range shaft battles a bit easier too :), which in my case is very important :D.

8)SIMPLE ITEMS:
Quakelive's simple items are actually very nice, they are clear, they look cool. I use it. I've made the icons slightly bigger and I disabled the bobbing except for the major items like RA or MH, this way I can see the RA on bloodrun when I'm at the shards, because of the simple item size and bobbing (not for the shards, just for RA MH YA etc, like I said)

9)DISABLING ALL THE USELESS AND DISTURBING EFFECTS:
impact, muzzleflash, shadows, dynamiclights, smokes, bubble trail(in water), lightningimpact (no need for it since you have the crosshair that blink/change color when you hit), sparks, damageplum (except for rockets, nades, plasmagun, shotgun and bfg) damageblend, all these useless effects are disabled in my config. I want the cleanest and most "pure" config possible. Not a single distracting effect. Basically everything is removed, but I can't list it there cause can't remember some cvars :D.
The less distracting effects you get, the better, I think a lot of people will agree with me on this :D.
Less is more (c) Axe

10)CONSOLE:
I have a plain black console background for better readability, and I have also console speed set to 1000 so that when you press the console bind it pops up instantly.

11)PERFORMANCE CVARS:
r_enablePostProcess 0
r_enableColorCorrect 0
r_enableBloom 0
r_ext_compressed_textures 1
If your PC is quite old or just not so powerful then adding these console commands might help you to get higher and more stable fps. And I personally don't give a shit about postprocess, bloom and colorcorrect, quake 3 looked good enough without it :D. More FPS always better than better look :D.

12)VISUALS, PICMIP:
I play with vertexlight, since it gives me a significant fps boost and I like the consistent look of vertex compared to lightmap, I mean, if you configure the right way your vertex settings, you can get pretty much the same color intensity and "lighting" for all the maps. While in lightmap some maps are much brighter or darker than others.
With mapoverbrightbits set to 8 and mapoverbrightcap set to 145 you get a very smooth and consistent visual for ALL the maps.
I use picmip 4 after playing for years with picmip 16. Using picmip 4 for probably 8-10 months now. I like the way the textures look, it's very soft smooth and "creamy", and also you get better depth perception with picmip 4 than with 16.
So yeah, with picmip 4 there's still some textures, but not too much, it's a happy middle, it's very clear and easy for the eyes without adding too much distractions (like picmip 0 does).
I have also texturesmode set to linear_mipmap_nearest for better performance and also because i like the way keel looks at med/long range, you only see him almost plain green (like if it didn't have any textures), which makes a nice contrast with the map's textures.

13)PLAYERLEAN:
Set to 0. Playerlean is useless. Some people say it's easier to aim with player lean 1 because you see better where the enemymodel goes, so you can adjust your aim in consequence. Bullshit. Playerlean is just distracting nothing else. And also it makes the model go out of the hitbox especially at relatively high moving speed. With playerlean 0 the model NEVER goes out of the hitbox, and like I said it's much less distracting. I tried to play with playerlean 1 after years of playerlean 0, I had hard time to aim properly at the center of the enemymodel xD.
Also, quakeworld players still hit 60%+ LG without playerlean. Purri and Damiah can still rail 60% in quake 2 without playerlean :). And afaik CS doesn't have playerlean either and yet skilled people can aim and predict the movements very well still.

CROSSHAIR(S):
I discovered quake 3 for the first time in 2002 or something. Been playing quake on & off for more than 10 years now, so yes, I'm not the oldest quake player but I can still be considered a veteran. Over all these years I tried EVERY crosshairs you can imagine. And guess what ? One word : simplicity. I figured out that the simplest and most effective crosshairs were crosshair 2 and crosshair 3. Crosshair 2 is a + . Crosshair 3 is a + with a hole in the middle.
And because I'm playing with what we can consider to be a low fov (at least for quake players), I like my crosshair to be relatively big. Also at my resolution (1024x768) crosshairsize 40 is "sharper", the black outlines are more clear and visible.
Also I noticed that when I aim at the enemy, I don't look at my crosshair (or very rarely), so my "focus" vision is on the enemymodel. Then it makes sense to have a relatively big and clear crosshair so that you can see it better in your "peripheral" vision. Better for flick shots, to say the least.
I found out that crosshair 2 at size 40, and fov 90, is perfect in any situations with the G SG GL RL LG PG, but not optimal at long/very long range with the RG MG and HMG. That's why I have crosshair 3 for RG MG and HMG, the hole in the middle of the crosshair is better for pixel rail shots or very long range (H)MGing :)
And finally my crosshair color is cyan because it's a very light color and it's smooth for the eyes. And I have crosshairhitcolor set to white, because if I set it to red I find it too distracting, I mean cyan is a closer color to white than it is to red, the the contrast between red and cyan is just too much. Cyan and white work well together imho :).

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YOU CAN DOWNLOAD MY LATEST CONFIG AT MY ESR PROFILE (CLICK ON HE4RTL3SS). ALSO BIGGER SCREENSHOT OF MY CONFIG AT MY PROFILE BIO
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new defrag like game coming out? (Seum) (25 comments)
Posted by stripy @ 16:19 CDT, 1 August 2015 - iMsg
Indie game wants to get greenlight on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=491552592

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Who was better, Cooller or Rapha? (20 comments)
Posted by losty @ 12:41 CDT, 1 August 2015 - iMsg
Many consider them two of the best mass murderers. Who do you personally think was best during his reign?
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g303 sensor inside g100s? (45 comments)
Posted by piss_wizard @ 08:42 CDT, 1 August 2015 - iMsg
Just wondering if this is something possible.

I tried to like the g303, I really did, but the shape is just too bad for me. However is there a way to get the g303 sensor inside the g100s, or is that not possible? It would be my dream mouse. :D

If anybody knows it'd be appreciated.

Thanks.
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ArenaFPS Fight Club KOTH (15 comments)
Posted by CrazyAl @ 08:31 CDT, 1 August 2015 - iMsg
Scheduled: 12:00 CDT, 6 August 2015 to 15:30 CDT, 6 August 2015
Begins In:

/r/ArenaFPS on reddit are hosting a 1v1 King of the Hill event on at 12:00 CDT, 6 August 2015.

In this first event we'll be playing Quake Live. Details of Reflex KotH coming soon.


Admins: Scotland CrazyAl, Hungary 7ep3s
Links: twitchStream, mIRC #arenafps.fc
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q3base config questions (No comments)
Posted by d00med @ 08:19 CDT, 1 August 2015 - iMsg
hey guys it's been a long time since I've used q3 base, just have a couple of curiosities.

is it possible to use keel enemy model and a different model for yourself? or is the only way to set forcemodel 1 and set your own model to keel...

also, is there:

a way to set crosshair color?
a way to remove smoke from projectiles etc?

thanks if anyone knows this stuff
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Australian Reflex (No comments)
Posted by Profanum @ 05:10 CDT, 1 August 2015 - iMsg
For anyone interested plus a bit of shameless self promotion, there's a small but growing regular Australian/nz community playing Reflex and we have already seen in the alpha stages of the game 2 local duel cups, regular team game nights aka the legendary TDM TUESDAYS, fun events such as KOTH (king of the hill) and the revival of the loved pugbot in our irc channel.

The lust for CTF is very present and once that is released (soon according to devs) we'll be playing that relentlessly like the good old days in cpma.

We have a steam group, webpage and dedicated servers running so to get in on the action join us on the steam group and our irc channel.

Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/aureflex
Website: http://www.reflexfps.net.au/
IRC: Quakenet #reflex.au
#reflexpickup.au

Cheers.

Profanum
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god (18 comments)
Posted by ZhuMusic @ 03:02 CDT, 1 August 2015 - iMsg
I destroyed this game, thats why I'll be the one to save it.

#revival #life
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Weird fps lag... Windows 10? (38 comments)
Posted by draxus99 @ 00:28 CDT, 1 August 2015 - iMsg
I updated to Windows 10 as soon as it came out and I noticed my Quakelive fps took a big hit. It used to be solid 250 and now it was dropping between 200-250 randomly. I tried googling it and discovered the com_idlesleep command. Setting com_idlesleep to 0 fixed the fps problem and that got me back to locked 250 fps...

However... I noticed that whenever I switched weapons or hit +attack my fps would drop for a moment. I don't know of a way to know exactly how low its dropping because it happens so fast but it looks like it's dropping to around 170ish...

Now honestly I'm pretty sure it didn't do this when I was running Windows 7 but I'm not 100% sure, maybe I just didn't notice it...

Now right away I figured the fps drop was being caused by my wacky weapon configs... because I use different:

crosshair, crosshair size, crosshair color, crosshair color on +attack, crosshair on +attack, crosshair size on +attack, crosshair hit style, crosshair hit color, crosshair hit time, cg_gunX, cg_gunY, cg_gunZ, hitbeeps, and damage plums.

... for each weapon...

I also use a HUD based crosshair for RL and RG (working on HUD crosshairs for all guns just haven't finished it yet --- it's amazing what you can do with HUD crosshairs btw!)

So I messed around with my config trying to make it not drop fps and I found this magical solution:

First I tried setting com_maxfps to 125 and I noticed that the fps would only dip between 120 and 125 almost never below 120...

Then randomly I tried setting com_maxfps to 144 and behold my fps wouldn't drop even a single frame, just locked at 144!

Then I tried com_maxfps 120 and again, completely locked fps at 120...

So I came to the conclusion that Quakelive must have some kind of built in preference for the common monitor refresh rates (60/120/144...)...

So I tried to guess what the next refresh rate would be after 144. After a bunch of guessing wrong and having the usual big fps drops, I found 167 fps!

At com_maxfps 167 I get not a single frame of fps drop when switching guns or +attack!

Then I literally tried every single value of com_maxfps between 168 and 250 and found not a single value that eliminated the fps drops...

...

SO!
Did I randomly discover some kind of bug in the Quakelive engine?

Is the fps dropping caused by Windows 10 and setting my com_maxfps to 120/144/167 is magically fixing it?

Is the fps dropping caused by my nutty config and setting com_maxfps to 120/144/167 is magically fixing it?

Is something else in my config causing fps drops?

...

Next question: I've got a 120hz monitor. Normally I play at 1920x1080 @ 250fps but would 167fps effect my performance much if at all? It wouldn't effect the physics like back in Q3 days would it?

Anyway I attached a zip file with my entire config including my HUD if anybody is brave enough to test my config on Windows 7 or Windows 10 etc... Also I uploaded the zipped config to my ftp so it's available at http://www.willamp.com/quake/draxquakecfg.zip

Thanks for any input I really appreciate it :) P.S. if anybody is interested in having your own wacky weapon configs or HUD crosshairs I'd be glad to help :)
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Who was worse, Hitler or Stalin? (32 comments, locked)
Posted by crunkus @ 19:57 CDT, 31 July 2015 - iMsg
Many consider them two of the worst mass murderers. Who do you personally think was worse during his reign?
Locked by Demiurge at 08:54 CDT, 1 August 2015 - 743 Hits
DP8 "Unforgiving" Minicup (20 comments)
Posted by def___ @ 19:44 CDT, 31 July 2015 - iMsg
Scheduled: 09:00 CDT, 9 August 2015
Begins In:

I am happy to bring details of my next Reflex minicup, scheduled for Sunday, August 9, starting at 09:00 CDT. Six top-notch Reflex players, including Finland DraQu, Sweden jukebox, Finland Kyto, United Kingdom Lasker, Spain memphis, and United Kingdom wh1te, have been invited to play in a round robin tournament on my latest mapping project, dp8. All the games will be best of one, and the person with the greatest amount of accumulated points will be crowned as the winner. Donations can be made towards the event using PayPal.

Download the map.

Good luck & Have Fun!

Links: +forward, Reflexfps.net, Full Brackets
Stream: twitch def
Edited by flair at 18:04 CDT, 1 August 2015 - 1518 Hits
QL down? (9 comments)
Posted by Retribution @ 17:36 CDT, 31 July 2015 - iMsg
Haven't been able to connect for hours.
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Honest Game Trailers (2 comments)
Posted by Dird @ 14:31 CDT, 31 July 2015 - iMsg


pretty shit but meh. CS vid is better



Full list: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeImKF...Vm9OWN1PFZ

If you want a Quake trailer then spam their latest vid (Guitar Heroes)
Edited by Dird at 14:42 CDT, 31 July 2015 - 183 Hits
Windows 10 is spying everything you do (22 comments)
Posted by gSTRUCTOR @ 12:36 CDT, 31 July 2015 - iMsg
"We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to."

Full article
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Playback quake 3 demos in windows 10? (5 comments)
Posted by Skinny_Puppy @ 03:26 CDT, 31 July 2015 - iMsg
Enyone know how to playback quake 3 demos in Windows 10 x64?
QLDT and Seismovision doesn't work.


Thanks.
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eRath Tournament- A Tribute to Arena FPS (28 comments)
Posted by Thump4 @ 03:22 CDT, 31 July 2015 - iMsg
Scheduled: 11:00 CDT, 9 August 2015 to 15:00 CDT, 9 August 2015
Begins In:

As the Arena-FPS personalities shift from QuakeCon 2015 to normal life again, some people are wondering what happened to everything "cool" with gaming.

Deathmatch style FPS competitive gaming is at a unique crossroads, as other platforms such as DoTA 2's The International Tournament, and League of Legend's Championship Series offer amounts as much as $18,000,000 USD -- enough to rival actual professional sports players. These prizes belittle what once was: John Carmack's 1987 Ferrari 328 GTS Cabriolet given to Dennis "Thresh" Fong at Red Annihilation in 1997 that featured Quake 1, or the $1,000,000 USD offered during the 2005 CPL World Tour that featured Painkiller.

PC Gaming has changed since those days! It might not yet be the time to bury the arena-fps shooters, but rather a time to celebrate them.

eRath Gaming, a brand new USA eSports team, is proud to host its first tournament: The eRath Inaugural - A Tribute to Arena FPS. The tournament features play on Reflex -- What better way to pay tribute? With this new fast-paced FPS, created by gamers for gamers, the past finally meets the future. At 11:00 CDT, on Sunday, August 9. With various sign-ups including Netherlands Vo0, United States of America Thump4, and Canada AZK, the tournament will be conducted with twelve possible maps, and nine total map drops: two original reflex maps, and nine more legacy / historical gaming maps will be used: Including the best maps from QW_ QuakeWorld, Q2 Quake 2, Q3 Quake 3, Q4 Quake 4, ut Unreal Tournament, DooM Doom 3, and PK Painkiller. Each of these maps housed, and still house, the best games and memories in all of eSports. This marks the perfect way to pay a tribute to the past.

Want to have fun celebrating the past?
Want to check out reflex? Download it at ReflexFPS.net
Want to step it up a notch and try to win the tournament?


Links: Official Website, reflexfps.net, mIRC #eRath, mIRC #reflex
Stream: twitch TBA
Edited by Thump4 at 17:36 CDT, 2 August 2015 - 1335 Hits
Quake Live's Next Update and Beyond (382 comments)
Posted by nsx0r @ 18:42 CDT, 30 July 2015 - iMsg
United States of America SyncError was in a chatty mood today in ZLive chat, I tried to sum everything in a clear post, in case you missed it. Sounds good to me.

Edited by xou at 13:15 CDT, 31 July 2015 - 13432 Hits
QUAKECON 2015 - COMPLETE DEMO PACKS (18 comments)
Posted by krock @ 12:40 CDT, 30 July 2015 - iMsg
QuakeCon 2015 complete demo packs from quakeconcdn.org/demos/. Enjoy if you need it!

QuakeCon 2015 - All demos - TBA - [1243 files / 5.2Gb]

Direct links (NL server):
DAY 1 — TDM - TBA - [733 files / 2.98Gb]
DAY 2 — CTF - TBA - [466 files / 1.84Gb]
DAY 3 — Duel - TBA - [44 files / 58Mb]

Mega.nz mirror:
DAY 1 — TDM - download - [733 files / 2.98Gb] // dir @ Mega.nz
DAY 2 — CTF - download - [466 files / 1.84Gb] // dir @ Mega.nz
DAY 3 — Duel - download - [56 files / 64Mb] // dir @ Mega.nz

Grand Master Finals — Evil vs Rapha - download

Yandex.Disk mirror:
DAY 1 — TDM - download - [733 files / 2.98Gb]
DAY 2 — CTF - download - [466 files / 1.84Gb]
DAY 3 — Duel - download - [56 files / 64Mb]

Grand Master Finals — Evil vs Rapha - download

// From Russia with demos love.. again :>

// Bonus: all photos from the official QC2015 album @ Flickr - Yandex.Disk or Mega.nz - [HQ / 4.72Gb]

// Wolfcamql with *.dm_91 filetype support - download
Edited by krock at 15:32 CDT, 1 August 2015 - 788 Hits
Frag-o-Matic 17.1 HEAVEN QL LAN info (59 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 03:26 CDT, 30 July 2015 - iMsg
Scheduled: 11:00 CDT, 11 September 2015 to 11:00 CDT, 13 September 2015
Begins In:

Belgium Belgian based gaming event organizer Frag-o-Matic is hosting a ql Quake Live event this September. It kicks off at 11:00 CDT, 11 September 2015 and ends at 11:00 CDT, 13 September 2015. Frag-o-Matic is a series of gaming festivals that are taking place at least two times a year by organizing the biggest Belgian gaming event.

It's a BYOC event that let's users activate their own rigs to the Frag-o-Matic network. Through this network multiple gaming competitions are organized, most of the time sponsored with great prize packages. Next to these competitions there are many other activities taking place and each event has his own theme, creating a unique atmosphere.
This year's theme is called HEAVEN. As always, visitors who do not bring their own computer, have free access to Frag-o-Matic.


The event will host a Duel tournament, a team-based gametype (based on community interest), and potentially a fun focused tournament. It will run a standard double elimination system Best of 3 up to Round of 8. Semi's and finals Best of 5. Map pool is yet to be announced, you can vote for your favorite duel maps here. The donations incentive is under discussion - it would be great if the community stepped together and chipped in as a sign of gratitude.


Links: Frag-o-Matic Official, Order tickets online, Temporary compo list
Edited by Teen Queen at 18:38 CDT, 3 August 2015 - 4349 Hits
Frag-o-Matic 17.1 gametypes (9 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 02:49 CDT, 30 July 2015 - iMsg
Capture The Flag
Team Deathmatch

  (view results, discard poll)
After a quick talk with the Frag-o-Matic organizers, I've deiced to set up a poll to let the ESR userbase vote and discuss which gametypes they would prefer to see on Frag-o-matic LAN event this September 11th. Duel is already confirmed, the second gametype will be decided based on community interest.

There is also a fun focused tournament under discussion - potentially a CA tournament; something for the not-so-competitive players in mind.

This should also shed some light on attendance numbers, community suggestions et cetera.

Again a huge thanks to the FoM team for keeping the dream alive \o/

Links: Official event website, esr ESR thread (in works)
Edited by Teen Queen at 02:50 CDT, 30 July 2015 - 584 Hits
Quake & Doom with Alex "Jehar" Popa (17 comments)
Posted by Tailwhiper @ 21:10 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Let's not lie. Since a while, hardly anyone mentions Quake related information in esports media outlets. United States of America Alex "Jehar" Popa got an opportunity, to present His perspective and frankly talk FPSpost QuakeCon2015, during the Daily Dot's comparative gaming weekly roundup talk-show on Twitch "The Loadout". The discussion is concise, as only, roughly 30 minutes were allocated.

Link YouTube Daily Dot Esports VOD
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So ESR, I fulfilled my prophecy (52 comments)
Posted by Effortless @ 20:00 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
I fulfilled my prophecy.

https://i.imgur.com/fxft10e.jpg

Think I can do it 3x in a row?
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Will I ever stop being on probation? (40 comments)
Posted by nemecel @ 19:19 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
What's the fucking point in any case? seriously, it's annoying, I might as well abandon this account and come back under an alias, this is not fair, simply fucking unfair, I only spit knowledge, im versed, im solid, im constant, im fucking logic, 2+2=4, wmo+best=true, q3=best=true, im fucking gifted, yet my crushing objective facts aren't appreciated here, for some reason. So fuck this, and BEHEAD THOSE THAT DO NOT PLAY QUAKE.
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You think you know skill (2 comments)
Posted by NicholAs @ 18:01 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg


Part 1



Part 2 with Master Mode


You ain't seen nothin'

http://www.esreality.com/post/2754103/re-sgdq...pid2754103

^ Link to my sgdq 2015 stream.

Awesomely awesome insane.
Edited by NicholAs at 18:06 CDT, 29 July 2015 - 314 Hits
125fps D1: iddqd_ru vs ins (1 comment)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:53 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
iddqd_ru, Odds: 45% (2.2:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

ins, Odds: 55% (1.8:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia iddqd_ru vs ins Portugal

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps D1: zanes_ vs ins (1 comment)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:52 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
zanes_, Odds: 56% (1.7:1)
Bets placed: E$5000, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

ins, Odds: 43% (2.3:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Germany zanes_ vs ins Portugal

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps D1: zanes_ vs iddqd_ru (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:51 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
zanes_, Odds: 45% (2.2:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

iddqd_ru, Odds: 55% (1.8:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Germany zanes_ vs iddqd_ru Russia

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps D1: madball vs ins (1 comment)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:50 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
madball, Odds: 80% (1.2:1)
Bets placed: E$5000, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

ins, Odds: 20% (5:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Belarus madball vs ins Portugal

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps D1: madball vs iddqd_ru (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:49 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
madball, Odds: 71% (1.3:1)
Bets placed: E$500, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

iddqd_ru, Odds: 28% (3.5:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Belarus madball vs iddqd_ru Russia

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps D1: madball vs zanes_ (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:48 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
madball, Odds: 80% (1.2:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

zanes_, Odds: 20% (5:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Belarus madball vs zanes_ Germany

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps D1: cyber vs ins (2 comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:24 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
cyber, Odds: 65% (1.5:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

ins, Odds: 35% (2.8:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Belarus cyber vs ins Portugal

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps D1: cyber vs iddqd_ru (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:22 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
cyber, Odds: 85% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

iddqd_ru, Odds: 15% (6.6:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Belarus cyber vs iddqd_ru Russia

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps D1: cyber vs zanes_ (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:21 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
cyber, Odds: 85% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

zanes_ , Odds: 15% (6.6:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Belarus cyber vs zanes_ Germany

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
139 Hits
125fps D1: cyber vs madball (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:20 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
cyber, Odds: 52% (1.8:1)
Bets placed: E$5000, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

madball, Odds: 47% (2.1:1)
Bets placed: E$2000, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Belarus cyber vs madball Belarus

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps D1: ash vs ins (5 comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:17 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
ash, Odds: 90% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

ins, Odds: 10% (10:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia ash vs ins Portugal

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps D1: ash vs iddqd_ru (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:16 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
ash, Odds: 90% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

iddqd_ru, Odds: 10% (10:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia ash vs iddqd_ru Russia

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps D1: ash vs zanes_ (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:14 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
ash, Odds: 75% (1.3:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

zanes_, Odds: 25% (4:1)
Bets placed: E$2000, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia ash vs zanes_ Germany

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps D1: ash vs madball (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:13 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
ash, Odds: 66% (1.4:1)
Bets placed: E$0, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

madball, Odds: 33% (3:1)
Bets placed: E$2000, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia ash vs madball Belarus

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
115 Hits
125fps D1: ash vs cyber (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 15:06 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
ash, Odds: 67% (1.4:1)
Bets placed: E$5000, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

cyber, Odds: 32% (3:1)
Bets placed: E$2000, betting open: 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015 to 13:00 CDT 6 Aug 2015

E$
125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia ash vs cyber Belarus

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
124 Hits
125fps C1: st1ng vs cherepoff (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:59 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
st1ng, Odds: 45% (2.1:1)
Bets placed: E$1159, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

cherepoff, Odds: 54% (1.8:1)
Bets placed: E$112, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Netherlands st1ng vs cherepoff Russia

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
125 Hits
125fps C1: nemesisfps vs cherepoff (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:58 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
nemesisfps, Odds: 41% (2.4:1)
Bets placed: E$4500, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

cherepoff, Odds: 58% (1.7:1)
Bets placed: E$6115, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Spain nemesisfps vs cherepoff Russia

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
140 Hits
125fps C1: nemesisfps vs st1ng (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:58 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
nemesisfps, Odds: 45% (2.2:1)
Bets placed: E$2744, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

st1ng, Odds: 54% (1.8:1)
Bets placed: E$5500, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Spain nemesisfps vs st1ng Netherlands

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
143 Hits
125fps C1: mix_ vs cherepoff (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:56 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
mix_, Odds: 49% (2:1)
Bets placed: E$3000, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

cherepoff, Odds: 50% (1.9:1)
Bets placed: E$70, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Belarus mix_ vs cherepoff Russia

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
125 Hits
125fps C1: mix_ vs st1ng (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:54 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
mix_, Odds: 56% (1.7:1)
Bets placed: E$1655, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

st1ng, Odds: 43% (2.2:1)
Bets placed: E$550, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Belarus mix_ vs st1ng Netherlands

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
148 Hits
125fps C1: mix_ vs nemesisfps (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:53 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
mix_, Odds: 63% (1.5:1)
Bets placed: E$850, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

nemesisfps, Odds: 36% (2.7:1)
Bets placed: E$700, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Belarus mix_ vs nemesisfps Spain

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
120 Hits
125fps C1: nitrino vs cherepoff (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:52 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
nitrino, Odds: 83% (1.2:1)
Bets placed: E$2055, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

cherepoff, Odds: 16% (5.9:1)
Bets placed: E$50, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia nitrino vs cherepoff Russia

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
138 Hits
125fps C1: nitrino vs st1ng (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:52 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
nitrino, Odds: 81% (1.2:1)
Bets placed: E$6853, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

st1ng, Odds: 18% (5.5:1)
Bets placed: E$670, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia nitrino vs st1ng Netherlands

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
146 Hits
125fps C1: nitrino vs nemesisfps (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:51 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
nitrino, Odds: 84% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$3500, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

nemesisfps, Odds: 15% (6.6:1)
Bets placed: E$50, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia nitrino vs nemesisfps Spain

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
144 Hits
125fps C1: nitrino vs mix_ (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:50 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
nitrino, Odds: 79% (1.2:1)
Bets placed: E$7159, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

mix_, Odds: 20% (4.9:1)
Bets placed: E$2500, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia nitrino vs mix_ Belarus

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps C1: kronic vs cherepoff (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:45 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
kronic, Odds: 87% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$6065, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

cherepoff, Odds: 12% (7.8:1)
Bets placed: E$67, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Ireland kronic vs cherepoff Russia

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125fps C1: kronic vs st1ng (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:39 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
kronic, Odds: 89% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$5164, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

st1ng, Odds: 10% (9.8:1)
Bets placed: E$50, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Ireland kronic vs st1ng Netherlands

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125fps C1: kronic vs nemesisfps (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:37 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
kronic, Odds: 84% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$60, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

nemesisfps, Odds: 15% (6.3:1)
Bets placed: E$100, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Ireland kronic vs nemesisfps Spain

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125fps C1: kronic vs mix_ (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:36 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
kronic, Odds: 73% (1.3:1)
Bets placed: E$2898, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

mix_, Odds: 26% (3.7:1)
Bets placed: E$2650, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Ireland kronic vs mix_ Belarus

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125fps C1: kronic vs nitrino (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:34 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
kronic, Odds: 54% (1.8:1)
Bets placed: E$7400, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

nitrino, Odds: 45% (2.2:1)
Bets placed: E$4318, betting open: 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 4 Aug 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Ireland kronic vs nitrino Russia

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps B1: zznak vs emmwatson (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:29 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Tied:zznak, Odds: 20% (4.8:1)
Bets placed: E$110, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

Tied:emmwatson, Odds: 79% (1.2:1)
Bets placed: E$50, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Germany zznak vs emmwatson United Kingdom

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125fps B1: zanzan vs emmwatson (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:27 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Loser:zanzan , Odds: 48% (2:1)
Bets placed: E$2070, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

Winner:emmwatson, Odds: 51% (1.9:1)
Bets placed: E$3500, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Sweden zanzan vs emmwatson United Kingdom

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125fps B1: zanzan vs zznak (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:27 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Tied:zanzan , Odds: 76% (1.3:1)
Bets placed: E$11076, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

Tied:zznak, Odds: 23% (4.1:1)
Bets placed: E$2010, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Sweden zanzan vs zznak Germany

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps B1: base_ vs emmwatson (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:25 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Winner:base_ , Odds: 84% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$1650, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

Loser:emmwatson, Odds: 15% (6.4:1)
Bets placed: E$10, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia base_ vs emmwatson United Kingdom

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps B1: base_ vs zznak (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:24 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Tied:base_ , Odds: 90% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$500, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

Tied:zznak, Odds: 9.6% (10:1)
Bets placed: E$10, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia base_ vs zznak Germany

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps B1: base_ vs zanzan (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:23 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Winner:base_ , Odds: 86% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$1300, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

Loser:zanzan, Odds: 13% (7.4:1)
Bets placed: E$10, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Russia base_ vs zanzan Sweden

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps B1: larslarslars vs emmwatson (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:22 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Winner:larslarslars, Odds: 79% (1.2:1)
Bets placed: E$11800, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

Loser:emmwatson, Odds: 20% (4.8:1)
Bets placed: E$655, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Denmark larslarslars vs emmwatson United Kingdom

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps B1: larslarslars vs zznak (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:21 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Tied:larslarslars, Odds: 84% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$7150, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

Tied:zznak, Odds: 15% (6.6:1)
Bets placed: E$110, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Denmark larslarslars vs zznak Germany

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps B1: larslarslars vs zanzan (2 comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:20 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Winner:larslarslars, Odds: 82% (1.2:1)
Bets placed: E$11028, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

Loser:zanzan, Odds: 17% (5.6:1)
Bets placed: E$405, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Denmark larslarslars vs zanzan Sweden

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps B1: larslarslars vs base_ (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:19 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Loser:larslarslars, Odds: 20% (4.7:1)
Bets placed: E$2121, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

Winner:base_ , Odds: 79% (1.2:1)
Bets placed: E$7517, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Denmark larslarslars vs base_ Russia

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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If we would to combined their heads (15 comments)
Posted by gashunk @ 13:18 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
What would happen if fazz, noctis, voo and rapha had unlimited funds to create a game that they love?
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125fps B1: sting_pl vs emmwatson (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:17 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
sting_pl, Odds: 78% (1.2:1)
Bets placed: E$5944, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

emmwatson, Odds: 21% (4.6:1)
Bets placed: E$500, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Poland sting_pl vs emmwatson United Kingdom

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps B1: sting_pl vs zznak (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:15 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Tied:sting_pl, Odds: 86% (1.1:1)
Bets placed: E$1200, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

Tied:zznak, Odds: 13% (7.4:1)
Bets placed: E$10, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Poland sting_pl vs zznak Germany

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps B1: sting_pl vs zanzan (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:14 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
sting_pl, Odds: 82% (1.2:1)
Bets placed: E$7042, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

zanzan, Odds: 17% (5.8:1)
Bets placed: E$500, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Poland sting_pl vs zanzan Sweden

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps B1: sting_pl vs base_ (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:13 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
sting_pl, Odds: 24% (4.1:1)
Bets placed: E$3550, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

base_, Odds: 75% (1.3:1)
Bets placed: E$17785, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Poland sting_pl vs base_ Russia

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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125fps B1: sting_pl vs larslarslars (No comments)
Posted by amOKchen @ 13:11 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
sting_pl, Odds: 77% (1.2:1)
Bets placed: E$17700, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

larslarslars, Odds: 22% (4.5:1)
Bets placed: E$2717, betting open: 13:00 CDT 28 Jul 2015 to 13:00 CDT 30 Jul 2015

125fps - GS1
Matches: BO1

Poland sting_pl vs larslarslars Denmark

Seasonal thread, mIRC #125fps
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Team Combat Server (1 comment)
Posted by qwih @ 12:49 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Were they an epic win? i always see a couple of them populated during the day and quite a lot in the evenings. I joined to see what's going on there and apparently it's full of brand new player fighting eachother. So were they an epic win because loadouts and such kept the experienced players away :D ?
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DuelMania WorldWide 1on1 tournament (13 comments)
Posted by Åke Vader @ 11:35 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
Some time ago the next edition of DuelMania was announced. This time it comes with a bit of a twist as it bears the name DuelMania WorldWide, an online QuakeWorld duel tournament that aims to gather the best duel players around the globe for one final showdown. The tournament will take advantage of the project that has been going on for around 18 months, initiated by Australia Dirtbox and Portugal Mushi, with the goal of getting key servers in strategic servers in place to make matches on fair ping between contestants from different continents possible. So far there are players from Europe, North-America and all the way down to South America signed up.

The tournament will be played on the classic maps DM2, DM4, DM6, ZTNDM3 and Aerowalk. The major differences compared to previous incarnations of DuelMania is the server selection procedure and for a complete statement on that, please refer to the official Duelmania website.

Links: Head on over to Duelmania website and sign up!, mIRC #DuelMania
Edited by Badb0y at 13:46 CDT, 29 July 2015 - 1323 Hits
rapha is not a defensive player (89 comments)
Posted by Grota @ 07:16 CDT, 29 July 2015 - iMsg
He's a positionnal player, but by no means a defensive or +back player (Cypher even said it on his interview). He launches deadly attacks more often than you think (and keeps pushing to ensure the kill) and always goes for punishing damage. We saw it this quakecon. You can't win vs top players be being "just +back".

You just rage because he knows how to be patient and +back when he needs to, because yes, when you have a 200 200 evil hunting for you, you need to +back for 5 mins if needed, this is not lolCA. His capacity to know when to be agressive is probably the best in the world.
Edited by Grota at 10:29 CDT, 29 July 2015 - 3096 Hits
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Signed Mousepad @ QuakeCon 2015 (15 comments)
Posted by Vig1lante @ 22:52 CDT, 28 July 2015 - iMsg
Yes this is a Steelseries qck+ that was signed by many people, and yes i had this pad for a while too.

many signed by most notable people such as: cooller, evil, rapha, dahang and more :)
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UT2004 Fragmovie: EDGE2 by F51 (4 comments)
Posted by F51 @ 15:05 CDT, 28 July 2015 - iMsg



0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Rating: 9.1 (15 votes)
Unreal Tournament 2004 fragmovie starring RussiaF51 and RussiaALTER


Edited by F51 at 15:30 CDT, 28 July 2015 - 431 Hits

<< Comment #1 @ 18:09 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Finland Danskie 
Why is makaveli in that poll?

since hes already back in quake :)
<< Comment #5 @ 18:23 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #1
Some of the other players are also playing QL at the moment, such as cha0ticz I believe, however, it is nowhere near the competitive scene and as such a comeback could be in order. If Makaveli has made a comeback to the competitive scene and I missed it then he should be removed though :)
Edited by Paladia at 19:17 CDT, 22 October 2009
<< Comment #6 @ 18:27 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Quake mbc  - Reply to #5
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1772113 though not quite there yet :)
Edited by rift at 23:18 CDT, 22 October 2009
<< Comment #8 @ 18:41 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Czech Republic LukKe  - Reply to #6
you can hardly call that a "comeback to the competitive scene"
<< Comment #250 @ 01:24 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
By stermy bubble_ru  - Reply to #8
He is comeback, like Immortal was comeback for Quake IV lol.
<< Comment #117 @ 11:17 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #6
There's also the russian makaveli, don't know which one the poll is refering too. But the russian makaveli was really good.
-Edit- Looks like he is active again , and still pretty decent looking at his matches -> Rush3Dmakaveli
Edited by Linchpin at 11:23 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #120 @ 11:43 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #117
He's never not been active.
<< Comment #122 @ 12:11 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #120
good to know :)
<< Comment #173 @ 19:12 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr  - Reply to #117
he is not good because even i win him
<< Comment #317 @ 11:47 CDT, 29 September 2010 >>
By USSR Lowbird  - Reply to #117
yeah hes average or maybe above with game time
<< Comment #2 @ 18:10 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Czech Republic LukKe 
way2ez4czm!
btw "uNkind" :p
<< Comment #3 @ 18:10 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By United States of America char 
czm or unkind

speaking of zero4 comeback:

http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/summary/ZeRo4
<< Comment #4 @ 18:21 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By terran timmah 
Who is elpajuo? Never heard of that guy
<< Comment #9 @ 19:03 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Aragón tzz  - Reply to #4
Best CPM player in the US a few years ago, he played in the CXG and did really good (he had to play cooller in the WB finals but the even was shut down iirc) then disappeared a few years later and his family came here searching for help.
<< Comment #12 @ 19:34 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #9
Lost to cooller in the WB Semi final 2-1 (Won pro-q3dm6 if I recall correctly). Cooller then beat ZeRo4 in the WB Final 2-1 but the event was shut-down before the LB final between ZeRo4 and elp could be played (I think).

I think he was at QLAN2 as well.
Edited by iNkind at 19:34 CDT, 22 October 2009
<< Comment #13 @ 19:59 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #12
the event was shut-down before the LB final between ZeRo4 and elp could be played (I think).
They started playing T4 and when the score was 8-8 between them as network died for good. The organizers didn't care anymore at that point but the players wanted to proceed, regardless of the cash (which was never payed out in the end). So they connected Zero4s computer directly to elpajuo, however, the organizers then proceeded to shut down all power as well, so there wasn't much for them to do.

Hence all three, cooller, z4 and elpajuo are considered tied as #1 for that event.
Edited by Paladia at 19:59 CDT, 22 October 2009
<< Comment #14 @ 20:09 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #13
They agreed to be 1>2>3 qlr>z4>elp.
<< Comment #15 @ 20:38 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #14
That's not how I remember it, I'm quite sure they all considered themselves as tied #1 and decided to split all money and hardware.

Why would z4 be ahead of elpajuo when they only played one map which ended 8-8?
<< Comment #27 @ 04:34 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #15
WB Final.
<< Comment #33 @ 06:23 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #27
The final was to be between cooller and the winner of z4/elp (which was never finished). So how was z4 ranked ahead of elp? Regardless, you are mistaken, the official (and inofficial) results were as follows:

Duel Results:
1 - tied. Anton 'cooller' Singov (Moscow, Russia)
1 - tied. Alejandro 've-elpajuo' Gonzales (Venezuela)
1 - tied. John 'ZeRo4' Hill (San Diego, California)
4. Sean 'Daler' Price (Austin, Texas)
5 - tied. Paul 'czm' Nelson (Massachussetts)
5 - tied. Jared 'cha0tics' Cugno (Boston, Massachussets)
<< Comment #34 @ 06:25 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #33
Because z4 was in the winner bracket final and elp was in the semi.

I recall them agreeing to share the money (whether it got paid or not) split 1. qlr 2. z4 3. elp.

But anyway, it doesn't really matter and there's next to no accurate coverage of cXg anywhere and the ESR search function is beyond hopeless.
Edited by iNkind at 06:27 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #38 @ 11:55 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #34
No z4 and elp had already started playing their match when the servers were shut down.
<< Comment #40 @ 12:08 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #38
I realise that, but the match wasn't finished and like you said it was a tie.
<< Comment #97 @ 04:23 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #42 @ 12:20 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #33
due to serious major tournament shortage, he has a physical need to count cxg as something cooller won, don't take it away from him :D
<< Comment #26 @ 04:11 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Aragón tzz  - Reply to #12
Ah, yes, that sounds about right.
<< Comment #257 @ 01:53 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #12
I think he finished second at Qlan2 (cpm tournament).
Rat won, elpa 2nd, toxter third and snapcase fourth I think.

He played in the vq3 tournament also, but didn't do as well compared to the cpm one :)
<< Comment #289 @ 12:32 CST, 15 November 2009 >>
rat played in the vq3 tournament as well. If I remember correctly he didn't lose cpm1a to anyone.
<< Comment #290 @ 15:50 CST, 15 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #289
I think that's correct. He was quite lucky that cpm1a got picked for the vq3 tournament :D
<< Comment #20 @ 00:53 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Frags medal crv  - Reply to #4
one of the best dm6 player
<< Comment #54 @ 13:35 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #20
please cut off those retro stats!
<< Comment #55 @ 13:38 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By badys tshirt Badb0y  - Reply to #4
elpa had a really unique AGRESSIVE style, nice to watch.
<< Comment #104 @ 09:22 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #55
RJ binds :DD
<< Comment #143 @ 03:49 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #55
Whenever I watched him move around, especially on DM6, he would do some things that seemed completely crazy or doomed to failure. They always seemed to pay off, though.

One time he did the standard bridge to rail and it seemed obvious he was going to miss. He managed to air-control himself over farther than seemed possible like it was nothing. Also he would regularly dive down onto players where it would seem they would shaft him to death before he hit ground but it never seemed to cause him any trouble.
<< Comment #297 @ 10:07 CST, 21 November 2009 >>
By Netherlands Terifire  - Reply to #143
One time he did the standard bridge to rail and it seemed obvious he was going to miss. He managed to air-control himself over farther than seemed possible like it was nothing.

Want to see this:D
<< Comment #318 @ 08:00 CDT, 30 September 2010 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #297
He did a lot of that stuff from what I saw, some of the most enteraining movement ever for sure! he is missed ;<
<< Comment #99 @ 04:33 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Unset gnarf  - Reply to #4
d:D
<< Comment #174 @ 19:13 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr  - Reply to #99
:D
<< Comment #105 @ 09:23 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #4
only south american quaker to "make it big" afaik. Loved watching him play though.
<< Comment #167 @ 15:10 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Greece MaJunior  - Reply to #105
you forget reef, the Fatal1ty killer :D
<< Comment #194 @ 13:41 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Sweden phaces  - Reply to #4
...alias elputo...he´s gg :)
<< Comment #7 @ 18:37 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By United States of America erok 
would like to see how fatal1ty would fair
<< Comment #10 @ 19:09 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Poland mefajpE^ 
czm - smarter choice. great personality, amazing player.
<< Comment #11 @ 19:32 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind 
<uNkind>
<< Comment #16 @ 20:39 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz 
For me, unkind would be most fun to watch in qlive with his rockets.

But the hype for fat, czm or tox matches would make for fun spectacting too.
<< Comment #17 @ 21:18 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands QuiXilver 
Zero4!
<< Comment #18 @ 22:22 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By wc3_undead mammon 
Sujoy but that won't happen.
xext toxjq, not likely but he would be a top contender if he had the time to put in
third probably Fatality or czm, the mappool suits american playstyle at the moment with t9 and t7
<< Comment #19 @ 00:35 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_ 
I voted for PELE cus I remember watching his old demos and being in awe about his interesting style. Most people probably don't remember him. He played a lot like unkind, just years before unkind was in the scene. Really smart and killer rox.

I don't think there is enough $ out there to motivate most of these people back. When you get older and have more responsibilities, it is impossible to put in the time required to be a top tier quake player. You have to choose to either dedicate your time to a game that nobody follows or do something real with your life.
Edited by JayDee_ at 00:40 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #300 @ 12:57 CST, 29 November 2009 >>
By SpawnRaped anal justice  - Reply to #19
this guy had the most unusual binds and I am not talking about smileys and such :)
<< Comment #21 @ 00:53 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Frags medal crv 
Unkind
<< Comment #22 @ 01:26 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks 
Sujoy. To this site \o/
<< Comment #23 @ 01:27 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
PELE was really good n1 for 2 years in rus... top 5 of that list imho zero4 unkind pele fatality lexer or lakerman
<< Comment #59 @ 14:06 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By heart rockz  - Reply to #23
no czm? shame on u
<< Comment #24 @ 01:37 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
daler chaoticz socrates makaveli blokey - why we need to see their comaback if we have rapha now =)... polos blue stelam were really interesting players but not really top imho... 9.sujoy 9.doomer(doomer 34 years old now) not sure that they can to play realy good nowdays.. and about thresh - it would be absolutly fantastic if we will see his comaback but so interesting... but of course i wanne see totally comaback of all players in that list =)
<< Comment #85 @ 23:26 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By ezQuake f0cus  - Reply to #24
Holy hell it's Alchemist03.

DUDE. Stop learning english, it's ruining the fun :(
<< Comment #197 @ 05:33 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By eldvakt LoCK  - Reply to #85
I WANT TO SEE TOTALLY COMABACK!
<< Comment #25 @ 02:41 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By zerg vedic 
I miss czm's cheesy antics. =(
<< Comment #28 @ 04:41 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke 
czm
<< Comment #29 @ 04:41 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany cYmoZz 
fatality + toxic
<< Comment #267 @ 05:05 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
By US-California Venim  - Reply to #29
exactly what i'd like to see
<< Comment #30 @ 05:05 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Finland duumed 
there are so many great players i'd like to come back since i wasn't following q3 in the first few years and didn't get to see them in action.

voted for czm
<< Comment #31 @ 05:52 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone 
Fatal1ty will add legitimacy and glamour to tournaments. He will probably bring more sponsorship to Quakelive just by competing.
<< Comment #32 @ 06:07 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden ArchaiK 
toxjq wihout a doubt. tox and fox 2v2 would make be spray things all over the screen.
<< Comment #35 @ 06:32 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Poland tifu 
it's really hard to pick only one, so i went with toxjq as i think he could come back and really compete. i'm not so sure about rest of those guys - they got old :P, moved on or just might not have time...
<< Comment #36 @ 07:52 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia ambro 
thresh comeback with a ferrari on quakecon :)
<< Comment #45 @ 12:29 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cyronix  - Reply to #36
he sold it afaik
<< Comment #175 @ 09:32 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By dollar zoinks  - Reply to #45
Did Carmack buy it back? :D
<< Comment #37 @ 10:58 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Finland Tzeentch 
LeXeR!

\o/
<< Comment #39 @ 12:03 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By wc3_human DamianLillard 
I picked fat because you know he's gonna actually practice unlike the rest of these lazy bums
<< Comment #46 @ 12:33 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By terran timmah  - Reply to #39
Most of them practice, they all just tell different degrees of lies about the time.

But I guess time put in is not the only factor that will decide level of play.
Edited by timmah at 12:38 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #91 @ 02:33 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By wc3_human DamianLillard  - Reply to #46
Yeah that's what I meant, that all of them would stop playing completely between official tournaments! a gift for you

http://www.tynansanger.com/uploaded_images/sa...710628.jpg

[img1]
Edited by Vernon Schillinger at 02:34 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #41 @ 12:12 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Italy exp! 
crazyman e toxjq
<< Comment #43 @ 12:22 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe 
ain't gonna vote zero4 cause he probably has no motivation whatsoever to play again.


but i vote fatal1ty, cause fat returning to play would promote ql more than anything.


+ czm, ql fits his style
Edited by Lethe at 12:28 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #47 @ 12:46 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #43
Suits uNkind more!
<< Comment #48 @ 12:51 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #47
unkind is so...2002 =(
<< Comment #49 @ 12:53 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #48
Can't believe z4 only has one vote.
<< Comment #51 @ 13:16 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #49
probably everyone watched his latest demo :D
<< Comment #88 @ 01:42 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz  - Reply to #49
Only cause they got to see him play last year - so not much of a comeback
<< Comment #44 @ 12:29 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cyronix 
fatal1ty + thresh,

thresh will never come back though,
and fat will only come if there is some more money.
<< Comment #50 @ 12:59 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Six16 
I picked Fatality because id like to see how good he is now compared to the likes of rapha etc..

but id also like to see Lexer, stelam, blue and Lakerman come back..

Also, list needs Stelam adding :)
Edited by d3c4y at 12:59 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #52 @ 13:31 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #50
er?
<< Comment #64 @ 15:40 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Six16  - Reply to #52
er, well i was thinking it was a ninja edit, but seems its not, i didnt see :)
<< Comment #53 @ 13:32 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd 
slinger, kane, american makaveli, menendez, if22, pele,unholy (anyone remembers him?! :-D ) gogogo :p

i'd like to see fat and stelam if ive to choose tho,,,
Edited by lizahd at 13:33 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #60 @ 14:07 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By heart rockz  - Reply to #53
what do u enjoy on if22?
<< Comment #62 @ 14:51 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #60
in his early days, like until cpl holland he wasnt +back at all :P
<< Comment #66 @ 16:08 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Weird  - Reply to #62
wow someone who remembers if-22 not being +back.....
you might have a really good memory... or a really bad one. (I for one don't remember who played how before cpl holland Oo)
<< Comment #89 @ 01:44 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz  - Reply to #53
Imagine the joy of watching if22 +back t9 to defend a 1 frag lead :)
<< Comment #320 @ 05:56 CDT, 14 April 2011 >>
By CSS Furball  - Reply to #53
i'd rather see Dta back than if-22 =)

Phear the HPB Rail biatch! (unholy) =]
<< Comment #56 @ 13:39 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Weird 
pfffffff, this should be allowed to vote on multiple persons....
Most of them would be really nice...

But I'm so torn between players I admired :(
voted for DOOMer though cuz he was the least voted for on the list of those ppl... and someone above wrote that makaveli is already back ;)
<< Comment #58 @ 13:44 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #56
i claim most of the list startet ql at least once :PPP
<< Comment #57 @ 13:44 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By djogedj h8m3 
LeXeR!
<< Comment #61 @ 14:30 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip 
wanna see unkind & lexer back
<< Comment #63 @ 15:31 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By United States of America paulrrrr 
czm all the way.
<< Comment #84 @ 23:18 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Canada efassd  - Reply to #63
Hi czm.
<< Comment #65 @ 16:01 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Thorin 
It actually blows my mind that Blue has 3% and unkind 16%. Fuck is wrong with you people?
<< Comment #67 @ 16:25 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Austria noctis  - Reply to #65
rather see unkind play since i've already seen enough of blue in ql :p
<< Comment #68 @ 16:25 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #65
GTFO
<< Comment #150 @ 10:49 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #65
I slightly agree. Blue was really amazing in his prime q3 days, but his q4 days were not REALLY amazing. It was still nice to see him of course, but he couldn't threat the top players. I know he plays some QL, but just for fun I assume...
<< Comment #69 @ 17:01 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Swedish Shaft Torzelan 
Fatal1ty for QL's sake, Toxic for my sake <3
<< Comment #70 @ 17:56 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
Lakerman, babe, Lakerman
!

[ed] the list is kinda ridiculous, because many guys here did not retire for good -for example fatality, it is a well know fact the moment there will be big money prizes mister Anderson will be back, toxjq also played last year, and you miss him already?
Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 18:01 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #76 @ 19:22 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #70
Well, they retired from the competitive Quake scene (which they all were a part of earlier) and thus could come back to it again.
Edited by Paladia at 19:23 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #82 @ 21:49 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #76
I would not call a year or two of inactivity, retirement. Even if it is technically retirement, as long as we've seen them not too much time ago, it's not enough to call it in a joy, the great return of the dark knight.
To be more specific, my daughter went down from our bed in the morning, and in the evening she was climbing it again, fully enthusiastic, I would not call what she was doing today, a truly retirement.
Same love story.
<< Comment #71 @ 18:21 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex 
Impossible to make a decision. I want czm, Thresh, LakermaN and toxic back. Z4muZ is missing, and I want All*Nirvana to play a lot and show his skill internationally for real.
<< Comment #72 @ 18:23 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #71
Ali Naab is missing too
<< Comment #73 @ 18:32 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #72
Never heard of him.. :P
<< Comment #74 @ 18:38 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #73
=(
unpossible
<< Comment #75 @ 19:20 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #71
Z4muZ isn't missing as he's already doing a comeback. He's playing for excello, participated in the QL Quick Cup and has signed up for Dreamhack.
Edited by Paladia at 19:20 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #77 @ 19:29 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #75
Yeah, I was told after I wrote it :) I'm not really paying attention these days. His stats on QL seems good, hope he attends a big tourney soon.
<< Comment #78 @ 19:32 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #77
Didn't you read the Dreamhack part? :) It's the second biggest QL tournament if you count how many good players that are participating. Unfortunately I don't think he has enough time to prepare properly for it but will be great to see him in action again.
<< Comment #79 @ 20:06 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #78
Hm, no I didn't. When is Dreamhack? It would be nice to go there and photograph for ESR :)

Edit: I found it, starts on my birthday, if I read it right, 26th of November. It will be fun to watch :)

Edit 2: I'm checking traveling costs to see if I can do it, it would have been awesome :D Specially since in 2002 or 2003 I ended up not being able to go to QLAN :)
Edited by netrex at 20:21 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #258 @ 02:06 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #79
come! :D
I'll fix you up with a press-pass if you can make it!
<< Comment #80 @ 21:02 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Uruguay gSTRUCTOR 
Easy one, fat ofc, it would be "HUGE"(c)2GD for QL.
<< Comment #81 @ 21:13 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By USSR s3cco 
rat
<< Comment #83 @ 21:50 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #81
damn rats, always scattering in the shadows, making me jumpy!...
<< Comment #86 @ 23:36 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany butchji 
toxjq and SteLam :)
<< Comment #87 @ 01:39 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
Fatality is the one who could most realistically make a comeback and be a force in tournaments. Video games are supposed to be his full time job, right?
<< Comment #94 @ 03:07 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #87
and not for those for those other pro gamers who play 6-8 hours easily a day?
Edited by confusion at 03:07 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #126 @ 14:03 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
For $3000 every 6 months? lol.
<< Comment #90 @ 02:11 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Latvia fuzz 
czm and socrates
<< Comment #92 @ 02:48 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden azmo 
Shub of course ;)
<< Comment #130 @ 15:31 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Fejl(Folklore)  - Reply to #92
That would be really cool:P
<< Comment #93 @ 03:03 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By ^__^ bl4ze 
wombat
<< Comment #95 @ 03:13 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
crezyman for hub
ZeRo4 for t4
<< Comment #96 @ 03:14 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
lexer, unkind, pele, socrates :(
<< Comment #98 @ 04:31 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
Someone else: 0.6% (1)3)

-Forever
-iF-22

Dutch glory!
<< Comment #100 @ 08:43 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #98
I'm pretty sure forever is still playing =). Or do you mean as a dueller?
<< Comment #115 @ 10:51 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #100
Yeah I meant if he would make a comeback in the 'programing scene'.
<< Comment #202 @ 14:02 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Quake 3 loveless  - Reply to #115
i wanna see some more chairs thrown
COME BACK FOREVER!
<< Comment #101 @ 08:44 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius 
stelam and whole sk back for tdm =)
<< Comment #102 @ 09:10 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #101
dont you prefer unmatched?
<< Comment #119 @ 11:25 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #102
well, no, since kane is my favorite player and he needs to be in it! =). (so that's stelam, kane, zyz, neok)
<< Comment #121 @ 11:44 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #119
Slinger not neok! (Not to bash neok of course)
<< Comment #124 @ 13:05 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #121
nah! I always felt slinger was the 'weakest link' in the unmatched days.
<< Comment #146 @ 08:54 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop?  - Reply to #124
now that's odd. i suggest to watch some of the old demos which clearly show that sl1nger was one of (if not THE) the key players in unmatched's (or SK's) success. i always felt that neok was the "weakest" individual player in that team. all in all those guys were awesome together and seeing them again would be a pleasure. especially from a german perspective since we pretty much only have k1llsen nowadays.
Edited by Loop? at 08:57 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #149 @ 10:40 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #146
hmm, and it seems SK was mostly kane, stelam, slinger & para anyways, so I'd pick that team then.
I always thought slinger had often the worst NET/the most deaths. Gonna check some demos for sure! The good ol' days damned, I want them back ='(
<< Comment #153 @ 11:45 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #149
Kane was their "star" player, every time I've faced them he was always way ahead of the others. Even the maps they lost he was usually ahead of most of our players :)
<< Comment #181 @ 19:45 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop?  - Reply to #149
probably slinger was too busy yelling at his teammates for getting fragged on these occasions :D anyway, would be awesome to see some high profile tdm back, fully agree.
<< Comment #196 @ 05:07 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Germany torfteufel  - Reply to #146
if you still have demos showing u or sk play tdm, esp. stelam pov ofcourse :DD
PLS UP THEM TO THE AGP WEBPAGE !!
vote for stelam btw :]
<< Comment #162 @ 13:43 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany butchji  - Reply to #119
Kane is a professional football player nowadays. :)
He plays in the 2nd League in Germany.
<< Comment #164 @ 14:49 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #162
so he transformed his quake dodging and hitting skills into football :)
<< Comment #171 @ 18:26 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #162
yes I know, and he seems to be in the team quite a lot too.

http://www.rwo-online.de/saison/rwo/kader.php?show=574
<< Comment #103 @ 09:11 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By 011 nemecel 
Is uNkind alive?
<< Comment #106 @ 09:38 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo Liam 
voted for unborn
<< Comment #107 @ 10:03 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #112 @ 10:27 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #107
I don't really use that account (that was my 1st and only game) as I like to play in peace/quiet and have a good time. That's what happens when you get old... you like quiet, haha! Especially sometimes when I come home in the evening after a few drinks...

I could always play Counter-strike when I had some liquor, but quake, oh boy... all over the place with some alcohol, haha.

I need to get rid of this monitor though... 25 ms response time and only 72 Hz LCD.... hehe -- I don't know how much it is gimping me, but from what I've been told, it is pretty bad.

I am trying to get Unholy, immortal, and some of my other friends to start playing again though.
Edited by K9-makaveli at 10:38 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #118 @ 11:22 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #112
your russian nemesis is still active :D, see link.
Rush3Dmakaveli
Edited by Linchpin at 15:01 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #136 @ 17:49 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #112
Hell yeah, you should try and form a tdm clan, atleast that you can still play for laughs without it taking too much time. Although I've heard tdm isn't big in the US atm :(
<< Comment #137 @ 19:42 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By 005 poindexter  - Reply to #136
Get the rest of Deathrow out of the rest home and back in ql...
<< Comment #108 @ 10:14 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #109 @ 10:16 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
No immortal on the list? ='-(
<< Comment #110 @ 10:21 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #109
He made a comeback in Q4 and didn't do all that great, not terrible by any means but not really that impressive.
<< Comment #111 @ 10:25 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #110
That's because I wasn't practicing with him!!! =) hehe
<< Comment #113 @ 10:48 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #111
woow you're back nice. always enjoyed watching your demos.
still play with that high sense?
<< Comment #116 @ 10:58 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #113
I think I'm just twitchy.. not really the sensitivity.
<< Comment #123 @ 12:17 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #116
move unholy here asap!!! :)
<< Comment #125 @ 13:07 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By pirate mkeiy  - Reply to #109
lol that guy was a fucking drop kick
<< Comment #201 @ 12:06 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #109
An immy comeback would be cool. I always thought his style was unique and strange. He had slow clumsy movement, but could out aim everybody by a great margin. He would hit crazy rails in ql.
<< Comment #230 @ 10:16 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #232 @ 10:38 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #230
Nope
<< Comment #114 @ 10:51 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
1. Fatality or Toxic
<< Comment #127 @ 14:29 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cyronix 
From Wikipedia (last sentence in the article about fat):
Has recently become a Full Tilt Poker Pro using his tag.

It seems 90 % of the progamers become pokerplayers after their gaming career.
<< Comment #128 @ 14:36 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #127
No education, no skills.

Poker awaits...
<< Comment #148 @ 10:38 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #128
I told him to go to college and not rely on the gaming stuff...

Hope he listened to me.
<< Comment #165 @ 14:50 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #148
Fatal1ty made a lot of money with gaming and he is now a business man who promotes his own products. Why should he go to college?
<< Comment #169 @ 17:35 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #165
Because he had to sell out and still has a quite unreliable job, it's nothing to raise a family or buy a house with, nothing in pro gaming is imo.
<< Comment #195 @ 15:57 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #169
This......
<< Comment #207 @ 20:17 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Vo0  - Reply to #169
But...but...he's a millionaire.
<< Comment #214 @ 10:07 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #207
:D You want your own smug face on those motherboards?
<< Comment #268 @ 05:10 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
By US-California Venim  - Reply to #207
you should be on this list too btw
<< Comment #303 @ 08:15 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #169
its not unreliable. this comment is true ignorance. Are you his tax accountant? You actually know his income?

He's made. And i don't even agree with how he did it either.
Edited by Cloud at 08:22 CST, 8 March 2010
<< Comment #302 @ 08:13 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #128
poker doesn't take any skill?



How much money would you like to play for?
<< Comment #306 @ 08:42 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #302
Yeah, you got me, that was what I was saying.
<< Comment #308 @ 10:35 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #306
oh

now i see what u did there..
<< Comment #129 @ 14:41 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek 
would love to see Fatal1ty in action

but... he loses in FFA shootouts :(

http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/matches/fatal1ty/20695878/DM
<< Comment #133 @ 17:47 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #129
Haha, it is really hard to win every FFA.
<< Comment #135 @ 17:48 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek  - Reply to #133
:p
<< Comment #157 @ 12:27 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #159 @ 12:41 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek  - Reply to #157
yeah at some point in one of those 2v4 matches the score was, if i remember correctly, 197:0 ;-)

still beating him in ffa was a nice experience :p
<< Comment #131 @ 17:12 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
LakermaN!!!!
<< Comment #134 @ 17:47 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #131
Lakerman would be awesome, but he probably need too much time to get back into it. His old "esp" used to give me orgasms.
<< Comment #132 @ 17:47 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By 2k2_2 Nukm 
tox and fat
<< Comment #139 @ 20:17 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America Hito 
Impossible to choose one, ive always liked Pele and Lakermans style. Would love to see Lexer, Czm and Fat back too though...

I think any match between rapha, cooller, fat and czm in their prime would just be amazing.
<< Comment #138 @ 20:10 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Portugal stuntz 
Polos is rulez :D
<< Comment #140 @ 20:32 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By USSR EKSelenc 
uNkind or toxjq.
<< Comment #142 @ 03:45 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
immortal (usa), Shub-niGGa (nor) and Scion (nor).
Are true legends for me.
/[pig]Parish
<< Comment #141 @ 02:16 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpma Adel 
toxjq
<< Comment #144 @ 04:33 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Denmark amOKchen 
I've always been a lakerman fan, so heres my top5 :p

1. LakermaN
2. toxic
3. unkind
4. daler
5. elpajuo (this guy was amazing not much footage on him though)
<< Comment #145 @ 05:35 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By rpnew telly 
Pietro
<< Comment #147 @ 08:59 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop? 
lexer,stelam,sl1nger,zyz,kane, czm,fatal1ty, in no specific order.

+ cooller being as successful as he used to be ;)
Edited by Loop? at 09:00 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #151 @ 11:06 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Denmark Vium 
k3no og hazzi aka gur piuv
<< Comment #152 @ 11:15 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS 
- ElkY
- Grrr..
- rat
<< Comment #154 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #152
Major Poll: QL

"Quake live has brought quite a few players back to the scene. Which comeback to the Quake competitive scene would you rather see (as a player)?"

:(
Edited by Paladia at 11:46 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #155 @ 11:52 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS  - Reply to #154
WHICH COMEBACK WOULD YOU RATHER SEE?
<list of persons and some random blabla i didn't care about>
<< Comment #156 @ 11:53 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS  - Reply to #155
also any of my list rather than any of yours :p
<< Comment #158 @ 12:28 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #155
Well, you should at least check which category its in :)

However, you can do a SC one sometime later. Though most SC players have already made a comeback. :)
Edited by Paladia at 12:28 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #160 @ 13:03 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By US-Pennsylvania judge717 
czm easy
<< Comment #161 @ 13:27 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By stermy bubble_ru 
Best fail :

"A Legend return", quake IV, Immortal.
Videos etc ...

A Legend Returns
Once, long ago, a legend trod the earth, fragging opponents with ease and reigning as a good and wise champion.

Until, one day, he vanished into the mists of time.

On Tuesday, he returns.....and GGL.com will cover every step of his exciting comeback
<< Comment #163 @ 14:20 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Done linoleuM 
rat or czm
Edited by linoleuM at 14:20 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #166 @ 14:51 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
lakerman vs z4 on t4... interesting.
<< Comment #168 @ 17:31 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 stunt.us 
imagine stx-kash playing QL. I mean osp was super easy for him. I want to see the kash come back!
<< Comment #170 @ 17:42 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke  - Reply to #168
kash=rapha
<< Comment #172 @ 18:53 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 stunt.us  - Reply to #170
no wai! kash was known for having aim of GODS with lg and railgun. rapha just runs and spams rl.
<< Comment #176 @ 09:45 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Finland duumed  - Reply to #172
rapha just walks and spams rl.

there, i fixed it for you
<< Comment #179 @ 13:48 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 stunt.us  - Reply to #176
hahah true ;D
<< Comment #247 @ 18:32 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #168
You know, i hate you. But i have to say, you're one heck of a good troll.
<< Comment #254 @ 19:05 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
By clawo Liam  - Reply to #247
We need another poll to decide imo.

I'm pretty sure I know what the outcome will be though.
<< Comment #304 @ 08:16 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #247
what in the fuck are u talkin about?
<< Comment #305 @ 08:30 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #304
Nice reflex, retard. Fuck off back to your cave.
<< Comment #307 @ 08:59 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #305
reflex? what in the Fuck are you talkin about now you stupid fuckin idiot? just shut the fuck up ur fuckin useless and worthless
<< Comment #309 @ 13:35 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #307
Shush, kid. I know it's hard to live with a reading disability, don't make yourself look even worse.
<< Comment #177 @ 09:58 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen` 
PELE[PK]
<< Comment #178 @ 10:58 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Quake 3 (black) ddk 
THERAILMCCOY
<< Comment #186 @ 10:23 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By AUSNL by dann zkyp  - Reply to #178
!!!!!
<< Comment #180 @ 15:41 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive JDMYO 
czm of course - he was the SHIT! possibly the best allround Quake3 player of all time - tdm, cpm, 1v1 etc. Who could forget that T4 game he had against Aim (Ambix?) where he hit 3 pixel rails in a row from the bottom level to the top whilst Aim was stacked in sudden death overtime to win the game :) was awesome!
And didn't czm give Cooller his biggest defeat of his carreer on hub :)
<< Comment #184 @ 04:59 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By zerg vedic  - Reply to #180
demo?
<< Comment #185 @ 06:27 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #192 @ 13:24 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen`  - Reply to #180
czm TDM? lol
<< Comment #204 @ 15:56 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By United States of America erok  - Reply to #192
he played for cK when they were the top NA team and actually did well against euro teams
<< Comment #182 @ 23:17 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By US-California per1klez 
i dont understand all the talk for czm.. he tried to come back with EG last year and got pwned. I'd much rather see fatal1ty go for gold.
<< Comment #183 @ 04:46 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #182
czm is a secure ticket, if fatality can adjust to the level quake is played is something else.
Also probably why he is reluctant to jump into it, the level is to high for him :P
<< Comment #233 @ 12:12 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke  - Reply to #182
czm is a likeable character, fatalalalaonetwoty isn't
<< Comment #234 @ 12:36 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By US-California per1klez  - Reply to #233
Fortunately for him, that is an opinion restricted mainly to ESR and few other esports communities. For the other millions of people that have heard of him or seen him play, his persona is far more likable than that of a czm.
<< Comment #262 @ 12:13 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By ezQuake f0cus  - Reply to #234
whoa now. I'm not and have never been a fatal1ty basher. I got along with him just fine the few times I've actually spent a little time with him, but you should give Paul more credit. He's great.
<< Comment #266 @ 03:00 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #262
why are you arguing with periklez as if he had any clue of wha he's taking about?
<< Comment #187 @ 10:35 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip 
keeper should come back too
<< Comment #188 @ 11:37 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck spyteman  - Reply to #187
hah yeah he was solid :D
<< Comment #189 @ 12:05 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #187
keep3r
<< Comment #190 @ 12:15 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip  - Reply to #189
k29.keep3r
keep3r^v4
c58|Keep3r
Edited by deotrip at 12:16 CDT, 27 October 2009
<< Comment #191 @ 12:37 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #190
well done ;)
<< Comment #277 @ 00:01 CST, 7 November 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #187
From what I gather, he's playing CS these days. He was pretty awesome to watch on ztn back when he was in shape (an unfortunately brief time).
<< Comment #193 @ 13:41 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Sweden phaces 
Lexer
<< Comment #314 @ 21:46 CDT, 30 July 2010 >>
By exclamation point CLains  - Reply to #193
yes! it would be the most fun
<< Comment #198 @ 09:57 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM 
my vote stays with zyz
<< Comment #199 @ 10:36 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Poland panadol 
stelam slinger and everyone else
<< Comment #200 @ 11:51 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_ 
Mikes for TDM? Also it would be cool if Dag, Def, or Reppie from qw tried their hands at ql duel.
Edited by JayDee_ at 11:52 CDT, 28 October 2009
<< Comment #205 @ 15:59 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen`  - Reply to #200
Mikes may be will come back!
<< Comment #209 @ 01:09 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #200
Why should they waste time with a shitty, slow, hitscan cs game? Especially +forward Reppie with his 5cm/360 sensitivity. Waste of talent imo.
Edited by terrorhead at 01:10 CDT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #210 @ 04:12 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #209
Because they have been playing the same players and shithouse maps since the creation of the universe. However, I'll agree qw has superior fundamental gameplay and the top players would probably never switch to anything else. I just think it would be nice to see a guy of Reppies insane talents try something different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6REVMQYrK8
<< Comment #211 @ 04:27 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #210
Not sure if I want to see Reppie in QL. Everyone would just own him. He would have to completely change his setup and style of play.

I agree about maps though. dm2 and possibly dm4 should be removed from comps.

Nice vid. I still have that demo :D
Edited by terrorhead at 04:28 CDT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #213 @ 08:37 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #200
I would go as far as saying that players like dag aren't as talented as some of the top players in QL.

When QW was the game, when it had players like DOOMer, Sniket, oKKun, Lakerman, Kane and so on, dag played at that time as well (I don't know if reppie or def played at that time but if they did they were so poor they weren't even known in the slightest then). However, dag, or dagurra as he was known as then, didn't stand a chance against those players, he was even at a lower level of play than me.

When all good players leave from a dead community, some lesser player is bound to take the #1 spot.

That goes for most of those current QW "stars", such as pietro, locktar, riker, xalibur, mrlane and so on. I do not even think they would disagree with me.
<< Comment #216 @ 10:28 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #213
Dude, less talented? QW requires a different skillset altogether. Different strats, movement, weapons, it's hard to compare, even. Also, how can you know if the current "stars" of QW wouldn't catch up to the old masters even, if they did stay in the game?

I'd say, if they'd put in time and effort, some of them could become top contenders in QL.
<< Comment #217 @ 11:19 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QW_ Zalon  - Reply to #213
I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense. As much as I respect the oldschool players (They were the top when I started playing), they simply didn't play the same game as the game thats played today. Saying that Dag wasn't as good, because he peaked at a later stage in the games history - Is like saying that LakermaN was only good, because Thresh wasn't around anymore. But even back then the game had changed alot, from when Thresh was king to when LakermaN won TGI. LakermaN was part of the era where aim, speed, and the ability to do tricks became a major factor in the game, whereas the players from the previous era had relied much more on just tactics.

QuakeWorld have had numerous eras, and different kings for each era. Some have stayed on top throughout most of the game's lifespan, players like ParadokS, reppie, dag and griffin. And I'm sure players like that have/had the talent to be good in any game. Just like LakermaN showed, some people can just pick up a game and instantly be good.

Regarding the players you list as current "stars", only LocKtar and riker is around.

But I would agree, that most top qw players probably wouldn't do as good in QL, but thats more of an age/lack of time thing than it is talent. Also they would be lightyears behind the Quake3 players. If Nabbe had not been moved from the "Participating players" to the "Pending Players" list, for the QL tourney at DreamHack winter, we could have seen what a top qw player could do in QL - with limited practice.
<< Comment #221 @ 12:54 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #217
There is nothing suggesting that Thresh was better than Lakerman, DOOMer or Sniket.

Did you watch 9 vs DR? I was there and watched it live and talked to the players. The first time EU and NA actually faced each other in QW/RQ, DR didn't do too well there (they even lost in their games vs IoP, another much less known medium-skilled Swedish team). Of course, while they were here Thresh also played 1v1s, losing games vs Xenon, DOOMer etc.

It's not like these current QW stars werent active at that point. Riker, mrlame, dagurra and so on played quite a bit yet wasn't even considered mediocre players in comparison to the likes of DOOMer or Lakerman.

I even played in the same team as Riker and mrlame, so I do know them as players more than most yet my opinion still holds true, they, just like me, werent as talented as players like Lakerman. It's simply easier to be amongst the best when the community size is 100 compared to 1 000 000, especially if you have a 10 year game advantage on all the new players.
Edited by Paladia at 12:58 CDT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #243 @ 06:08 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By rpnew telly  - Reply to #221
You are ignoring the fact that most of the early star players in Quake were established Doom players. Doomer, Ettu, Lakerman, Thresh etc all played Doom multiplayer and came into Quake already holding a lot of FPS experience. It was no surprise they dominated early on. Just like in Q3 where all the early tournaments were won by veteran Q1 and Q2 players.
Edited by telly at 10:39 CDT, 31 October 2009
<< Comment #301 @ 08:11 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #221
thresh was already deep into playin q2 at the time and had stopped playing q1, not to mention he was an NQ player not a qw player.
<< Comment #218 @ 11:42 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #213
No offence dude, but you have no idea what you are talking about. Dag not being top notch when laker was playing doesn't prove anything. Different players have different motivations at different times. Pietro has been out of the scene for a looooong time. The players who have been at the top of the qw scene in recent years are very very skilled and would destroy laker at his previous form. There is no need to make comments when you clearly don't know anything about the subject.
<< Comment #203 @ 14:13 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Germany - Bayern abso 
zyz
<< Comment #206 @ 19:23 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Eyeballers-Anim 0.2 kaZappeR shay  - Reply to #203
zyz sucks.. so did ewa braun.. ehm
<< Comment #208 @ 01:07 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead 
Fuck them all. I want to see Griffin and dag comeback.
<< Comment #212 @ 04:37 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Plusme ins 
COMEBACK CZM!
<< Comment #220 @ 12:29 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Portugal uuuaaaaaa  - Reply to #212
CZM is awessome!! But i would like to see a Fatal1ty comeback to shut people's mouth that say he isn't good anymore... But it would be funny if he comebacked and get owned xD
<< Comment #225 @ 04:13 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Plusme ins  - Reply to #220
Fatal1ty will comeback rather sooner than later, and yep he will get owned most likely.
<< Comment #226 @ 06:05 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #225
I disagree.

I think if fatal1ty does decide to come back officially he will make sure that he can hold his own among the top players in practice games before doing it.
And I think we can all agree that he is not the type of players who is worse in tournaments than in his practise games.
<< Comment #228 @ 09:49 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Portugal uuuaaaaaa  - Reply to #226
i'm oficially impressed. Just checked his stats on ql and he is owning on ffa... He said on an interview @ gamescon that he likes to play a lot of ffa to prepair his aim for a tournament, but he might be playing just for fun, I don't know... And you are right, Fatal1ty isn't stupid that's why he reached his status....
<< Comment #215 @ 10:24 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
the guy who knows whom i voted for gets a beer!
<< Comment #219 @ 12:10 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
Crrrrrrrrrrrrrrazyman!

But honestly, i'd love to see them all come back. The more the merrier. :)

Those and many more, especially people who managed to embed themselves in my memory, like Rocketboy, Kane, Paradoks, Gollum, Python, Matrox, Roos, Death, Arrw, Shub, w3st.. the list goes on.
<< Comment #241 @ 21:37 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #219
kane is currently the captain of "Rot-Weiß Oberhausen" in the 2nd Bundesliga. pretty successfull it seems.

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Edited by [mash] at 21:37 CDT, 30 October 2009
<< Comment #248 @ 18:42 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #241
Haha, no shit? Well good for him. I'd still like to see him make a comeback, the guy was sick.
<< Comment #249 @ 19:29 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #248
yeah, you could see him with his captains badge if some lazy ass admin would approve the pic.

i still remember his demos from LanArena. :D

e:

apparently he's now worth 700k. http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/spieler/8107/b...rofil.html

up 600k since the last time people talked about it.
Edited by [mash] at 19:35 CDT, 31 October 2009
<< Comment #260 @ 03:23 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #249
can't approve pics at the moment.

I blame funnyb!
<< Comment #280 @ 12:00 CST, 8 November 2009 >>
By l0wfly fny  - Reply to #260
what the fudge
<< Comment #222 @ 16:27 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By United States of America MUNG>esh 
where's cK 2v2 w/czm + fat option?!?
<< Comment #227 @ 06:06 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #222
cause everyone would vote for foxic?
<< Comment #240 @ 21:32 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #227
i'd vote for cox&fox.
<< Comment #242 @ 02:29 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #240
yes you would
<< Comment #245 @ 08:41 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #242
:D
<< Comment #223 @ 17:24 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By United States of America davis 
czm for sure
<< Comment #224 @ 21:22 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM 
why no zyz in this vote poll? He was q2 superstar in tdm / duels so was he in Q3 tdm and awesome duel player in PK. He was 4th at world champion ship in PK 2005.
<< Comment #229 @ 10:01 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #224
Duel wise I don't think he has placed top3 in any tournament.

Though there are lots of players that you could argue would have a place in such a poll, Kane is the one that comes closest to mine. However, no matter where you draw the line, the will be cases close to the line that can be argued.

You can also vote on the "Someone else" option for such players though.
<< Comment #237 @ 17:10 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM  - Reply to #229
half of those players didnt placed top3 on the list...... and unmatched did placed top3 in many tournaments, won couple of times too... zyz did won pk too at some tournaments..
<< Comment #239 @ 17:45 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #237
Lets see, you claim half of the players didn't place top3 in a duel tournament. I'll just mention one tournament for those I remember. To be fair, I'll only mention lan tournaments.

czm: 24% (79)
#1 QIL4

Fatal1ty: 18% (60)
#1 XSReality Invitational

toxjq: 17% (56)
#1 Dreamhack winter 2005

uNkind: 12% (41)
#1 WCG 2002

LeXeR: 4.8% (16)
#1 QuakeCon 2002

Thresh: 3.6% (12)
#1 Red Annihilation

LakermaN: 3.3% (11)
#1 Lan Arena 4

Stelam: 3.3% (11)
#1 Lan Arena 5

ZeRo4: 1.8% (6)
#1 QuakeCon 2001

Polosatiy: 1.8% (6)
#1 AMD PG Challenge 2003

PELE: 1.8% (6)
#1 RazerCPL Qualifier

Blue: 1.5% (5)
#1 CPL Asia

socrates: 1.5% (5)
#1 WCG USA 2002

DOOMer: 1.5% (5)
#1 Swedish Quake Championships

elpajuo: 1.2% (4)
#1 Cyber X-Games

Makaveli: 0.9% (3)
#2 XSReality Invitational

Sujoy: 0.9% (3)
#3 Ground Zero

cha0ticz: 0.6% (2)
Can't remember any

Blokey: 0.3% (1)
#1 XSReality AMD Cup (this was a duel tournament but not alone though).

Daler: 0.3% (1)
#1 ION Games
As you can see, your claim that "half those players never placed top3 in a duel tournament", was entirely inaccurate. Almost all of them have won at least one LAN tournament.
Edited by Paladia at 09:59 CST, 2 November 2009
<< Comment #261 @ 03:25 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #239
pwnz0red
<< Comment #278 @ 00:03 CST, 7 November 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #239
Wasn't ION Games an online tournament? The one where elpajuo went AFK on tourney4 with a small (1 frag?) lead, and then Daler took the win at the end?
<< Comment #279 @ 07:07 CST, 7 November 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #278
I think you may be right, though he was #1 at AmeriCup and LayeredX as well (and second at Quakecon and WCG USA 2002).
Edited by Paladia at 07:09 CST, 7 November 2009
<< Comment #231 @ 10:24 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By redd0t dot anim Apoc 
Python should be in the list. And the spanish guy who won one of the WCG's, whose name I can't remember.

I would still have voted for PELE [PK], hail!
<< Comment #253 @ 12:52 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
By Austria noctis  - Reply to #231
the spanish guy that got second behind unkind you mean
<< Comment #256 @ 01:49 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By redd0t dot anim Apoc  - Reply to #253
Thats' right, I wondered if a WCG winner could be forgotten.

But Akiles, not heard much of him lately..
<< Comment #235 @ 12:41 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By United States of America cha0ticz 
I'm rocking 2 votes at the moment, one of which was me so I'd like to give a big shout-out to my fan!
<< Comment #238 @ 17:26 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #235
you can click on show votes to see who it was and thank him personally ;)
<< Comment #264 @ 12:55 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Brazil _agu  - Reply to #235
i'd like to see you playing quake4 on galang, vs socrates.. some us tournament which i woudn't forget hahaha was amazing that game
<< Comment #274 @ 05:38 CST, 4 November 2009 >>
By USSR Demiurge  - Reply to #235
You can use a plural now :)
<< Comment #298 @ 02:52 CST, 24 November 2009 >>
By Earth by BooTes StywoO  - Reply to #235
Since you voted for yourself, can we assume your coming back? :)
<< Comment #236 @ 14:53 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By France Co1nCo1n 
SOMBRA ! lol
<< Comment #244 @ 08:02 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Portugal gut 
phyton, prozac and mist
<< Comment #246 @ 09:13 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Copyright by Jazka Jazka 
I voted stelam because i remember him firstly as being a great TDM player. Same for toxjq. And same for prozac. Same for makaveli because he is my first demo watched, a tdm demo on DM6 before the pro version, he was camping at RA and looking up.

And so on, i would like to see all those players come back for some great TDM with a lot of teams fighting to be n°1.
<< Comment #251 @ 03:28 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
The Genie says, "you have three wishes". Aladdin tells the Genie his first wish, "I wish for unlimited wishes.". Robin Williams tells Aladdin, "Well that kind of defeats the purpose of only having three wishes, but what can I do? Rules is rules.".

I always liked CZM, Toxic and Lexer myself. If I had my way, they would all come back.
<< Comment #252 @ 09:44 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
By 2KBlack Yellack 
Z4 with a ball mouse! \o/
<< Comment #255 @ 00:53 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By New Zealand roffo 
CZM for sure. The guy built a fucking railgun
<< Comment #259 @ 02:28 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze 
needs more rat!
anyway voted fat.
<< Comment #263 @ 12:53 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Brazil _agu 
i voted on fatal1ty but i rather like to see fist1 back on track :)
<< Comment #265 @ 15:43 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Dird 
GitzZz
<< Comment #271 @ 17:12 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
Outside of the usual suspects I would like to see (not just from Q3):

Polos, Blokey, Lakerman, Aim, Q50, Slinger & Stelam (surely they're a double team super combo?), Panicore, Prozac, Appleseed, IF22 anyone? and just cos I love him, Timber.
<< Comment #272 @ 05:24 CST, 4 November 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #271
Q50 is playing QL
<< Comment #276 @ 14:03 CST, 5 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #284 @ 09:51 CST, 12 November 2009 >>
By Germany butchji  - Reply to #271
Appleseed is playing QL!
<< Comment #285 @ 13:52 CST, 12 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #270 @ 17:06 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
shub_nigga played some tdm's with cooller, frozen etc.
SPRAY
<< Comment #269 @ 11:59 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind 
Would be cool to see Enemy play again too.
<< Comment #273 @ 05:37 CST, 4 November 2009 >>
By USSR Demiurge 
Probably enjoy seeing LeXeR play by far the most, would be really awesome if he played again.
<< Comment #275 @ 06:22 CST, 4 November 2009 >>
By claw0 pizz 
1. niceguy/Greenbastard
2. pezouille
3. pizzette
<< Comment #281 @ 06:02 CST, 10 November 2009 >>
By Lithuania yo_O 
uNkind, LeXeR, b100.Death, cGu'Nova and many more ;)
<< Comment #282 @ 06:52 CST, 10 November 2009 >>
By Nuke Explosion raithza 
I'd like to see Yuka make another comeback. This time as fatal1ty. imagine the DRAMA!

also, rat.
<< Comment #283 @ 10:52 CST, 10 November 2009 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates 
oldschoolers! :P
<< Comment #286 @ 09:14 CST, 13 November 2009 >>
By New Zealand GrotesK 
Blue to make a comeback with T4~
czm would also be great.
<< Comment #287 @ 16:20 CST, 13 November 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Disrepute 
I would like to see yuka back (as one of the above names)
<< Comment #322 @ 04:23 CDT, 28 May 2012 >>
By Moldova quake is potat  - Reply to #287
'ello 'ello 'ello, whats all this then
<< Comment #323 @ 09:59 CDT, 28 May 2012 >>
By United Kingdom Disrepute  - Reply to #322
stalker!
<< Comment #288 @ 12:15 CST, 14 November 2009 >>
By ET:QW Shrike 
Wombat !
<< Comment #291 @ 19:14 CST, 15 November 2009 >>
By France Co1nCo1n 
czm: 22%

+ hub for QL
<< Comment #292 @ 11:01 CST, 16 November 2009 >>
By France Shardik 
Thresh for sure !

and Hub, Qtv, mvd for QL yep :)
Edited by Shardik at 11:02 CST, 16 November 2009
<< Comment #293 @ 19:06 CST, 16 November 2009 >>
czm for sure. the best player ever to grace the quake community with his presence imho.
really wish he would make another comeback in QL. :)
<< Comment #294 @ 05:29 CST, 19 November 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr 
NEED NEW POLL: WHO GONNA WIN DHW KKTHXBYE
<< Comment #295 @ 07:22 CST, 20 November 2009 >>
By QuakeLive JDMYO 
Paul Nelson! lets have one last duel tourney off you?! Come on dude. You can live upto Rapha, Cypher and Cooller. No one else can but CZM can :)
Someone make Hub for QL and bring CZM back! :)
Shit! - I bet Rapha would own on hub... :o
<< Comment #296 @ 08:07 CST, 20 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #299 @ 10:37 CST, 28 November 2009 >>
By Netherlands Black2lip 
Blue or LakermaN two of my favorite quake players all time.
<< Comment #310 @ 14:09 CDT, 7 July 2010 >>
By Estonia dunZ 
toxjq : )
<< Comment #311 @ 04:48 CDT, 28 July 2010 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates  - Reply to #310
Done.
<< Comment #312 @ 05:00 CDT, 28 July 2010 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #311
Then it could only get better if LakermaN stopped being a poker millionaire and started quake again!
<< Comment #313 @ 05:04 CDT, 28 July 2010 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates  - Reply to #312
If he thinks that this is the right way. Don't think he'll replace his millions from poker with a dirty old railgun :P
Edited by nails at 05:04 CDT, 28 July 2010
<< Comment #315 @ 12:48 CDT, 2 September 2010 >>
By US-Arizona klout 
Fatal1ty, fox and czm.
<< Comment #316 @ 11:35 CDT, 29 September 2010 >>
By USSR Lowbird 
need more lexer votes tbfh. or else your not enlightened.
<< Comment #319 @ 13:45 CDT, 1 October 2010 >>
By Germany - Freistaat Sachsen sic4rius 
Fatal1ty ofc.

But I highly doubt that he would perform a comeback in a broken game and a watered down version of one of his favourite games, which lacks the ability to spawn LAN servers. By now he already must have realised that there's no future for a game as incomplete and undeveloped like QL.

And what else is there for people wanting fast gameplay and compete in 1on1 tourneys? Right, nothink!
<< Comment #321 @ 17:30 CDT, 27 May 2012 >>
By United States of America DizzyMage 
what was the last tournament doomer competed in?
<< Comment #324 @ 14:56 CDT, 1 July 2013 >>
srs.cypher
<< Comment #325 @ 12:12 CDT, 9 May 2014 >>
By Void Fr0zzen 
k1llsen
<< Comment #326 @ 03:48 CDT, 10 May 2014 >>
By Germany - Berlin ihve  - Reply to #325
Posting in a 2009 thread
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By Bulgaria cha0z_  - Reply to #326
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