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Brume -- A CPMA frag movie (5 comments)
Posted by xerosawyer @ 11:13 CST, 4 December 2016 - iMsg



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Russian Promode player Russia Ryan_H released his latest CPMA frag movie earlier today. The montage of frags was collected from familiar veterans from the European scene.

"history of the film: literally just another wannabe wntt (c)."
-- Ryan_H


Community Links: cpma Playmorepromode.org, CPMA Discord, CPMA Russia Discord
Edited by xerosawyer at 12:03 CST, 4 December 2016 - 273 Hits
Wolf Whisperer problems (1 comment)
Posted by druggo123 @ 09:52 CST, 4 December 2016 - iMsg
When viewing demos in WW these black squares appear when an enemy is taking damage. I assume there is a missing variable that isn't being picked up. Anybody know how to solve this problem?

Here is an example http://imgur.com/a/jmvUs
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Wolf Whisperer problems (No comments)
Posted by druggo123 @ 09:51 CST, 4 December 2016 - iMsg
When viewing demos in WW these black squares appear when an enemy is taking damage. I assume there is a missing variable that isn't being picked up. Anybody know how to solve this problem?
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Stream? (2 comments)
Posted by Zhu_Cx @ 01:20 CST, 4 December 2016 - iMsg
If I get a yes from atleast 10 people, long stream on monday.
Edited by Zhu_Cx at 01:21 CST, 4 December 2016 - 85 Hits
ql sens to csgo? (4 comments)
Posted by shoxr @ 18:44 CST, 2 December 2016 - iMsg
Hi guys, i'm curious how have any of you that have tried, converted your exact sens +accel over to csgo perfectly? i tried mine and it just feels laggy and not right at all? how are you doing it?
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Titanfall 2 multi - free weekend (No comments)
Posted by aiken @ 12:40 CST, 2 December 2016 - iMsg
It's free for this weekend if someone wants to try it up:

https://www.titanfall.com/en_us/news/free-multiplayer-trial/
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Quake Speedrun in 12:17 by jukebox (9 comments)
Posted by MaverickMSG @ 08:58 CST, 2 December 2016 - iMsg



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Rating: 9.3 (9 votes)
On November 29, 2016 Sweden jukebox ran Quake on easy mode in 12:17, beating the old record of 12:25 set nearly a year ago by Finland Elgu

Grabbed the demos and rendered this up last night. Enjoy.

Edited by MaverickMSG at 16:42 CST, 2 December 2016 - 305 Hits
LG is real (17 comments)
Posted by filo @ 06:28 CST, 2 December 2016 - iMsg
NOICE!

Edited by filo at 06:44 CST, 2 December 2016 - 881 Hits
Logitech G102? (10 comments)
Posted by IrrSolicitude @ 05:19 CST, 2 December 2016 - iMsg
Just found out that logitech is selling a cheap version of g pro in east Asia called G102.
Identical shape as g pro, probably 1-2g heavier, with inferior sensor, but only cost ~20 pounds. The cord actually seems to be better than g pro.
Have anyone tried this? How do you feel?
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Av3k, Strenx, Clawz, Silencep team up (16 comments)
Posted by tvorimir @ 02:08 CST, 2 December 2016 - iMsg
According to http://owlysix.com/communique/Annonce_OW_FR.pdf and https://www.facebook.com/OwlySix/photos/a.114...8829201353 Poland Av3k, France Strenx, Belarus Clawz and Netherlands Silencep will play for Owly Six OW team. Are they going to pick up Cypher as well? :)
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'Echochamber' - A CPMA Fragmovie (44 comments)
Posted by mushhz @ 21:22 CST, 1 December 2016 - iMsg



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Rating: 7.1 (40 votes)
This is my first CPMA Fragmovie featuring the Australian scene. All frags were gathered in a 2 month period and the movie was produced in 2 weeks.

I would like to thank all the Australians who are still playing this game and keeping it alive and those who gave feedback on my movie previews.


Community Links: Oceanic AFPS Discord, CPMA Discord, Official Site
Edited by Teen Queen at 10:51 CST, 2 December 2016 - 1523 Hits
Goal failed (9 comments)
Posted by mray557 @ 09:44 CST, 1 December 2016 - iMsg
Sorry. I just realized that I don't have the patience to get to 2200 in 2 weeks. It's impossible to play quake every single day. Already lost my motivation after the third day.
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New (7 comments)
Posted by flaki @ 06:59 CST, 1 December 2016 - iMsg
Hey quakers!
As it stays in the heading, im newcomer in cpma and would like to ask you guys about a vq3 duel setup (close to ql quakecon setup if possible). So far server is running but basicaly my problem is that it feels very weird, basically its about the weapon projectlies, especially rocket. It feels kinda laggy i mean i tried several cvars which i found in the descriptions but nothing really helped. The jumps are weird aswell, i have to shot and jump after a half second and the rocket it self is flying very slow. Althought i didnt find anything about compesation for that but maybe you have some tips. Else what would you recommend for that kind of server...Ps im one of the admins of our all weapon freeze comunity, we swaped from 1.16n noghost to 1.32 E+ mod and want to set a second duel server. So any help is very appreciated. Heres the ip 213.230.217.206:27961
cheers.
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planetside 2 (8 comments)
Posted by p0rt @ 09:31 CST, 30 November 2016 - iMsg
this game players for some hardcore team stuff



free 2 play http://store.steampowered.com/app/218230/

click instant action to find the busiest server, which is like the video
Edited by p0rt at 09:32 CST, 30 November 2016 - 385 Hits
Twitch giveaway (7 comments)
Posted by CAREEM @ 08:02 CST, 30 November 2016 - iMsg
I manage to edit my twitch properly so I m ready to stream a lot and I will be giving every Wednesday 10€ giveaway to my active users. Second giveaway is CM Xornet II claw grip mouse.

Info about giveaways:

* Start time: 7.12.2016 @22:00 CET.
* Be active last hour.
* Im using chrome APP - "Twitch Giveaways".
* Roll to pick random user will be live.
* Payment - Skrill only for once.

Second giveaway is CM Xornet II

* Goal 200 followers
* Shipping only in EU

Winners:

30.11.2016 - poltershpak - 10€

Xornet II giveaway
Giveaway App settings
CAREEM Twitch

If you need anything else or anyother info please let me know.
Edited by CAREEM at 16:14 CST, 30 November 2016 - 477 Hits
dmflags command? (2 comments)
Posted by ModifiedFootage @ 07:30 CST, 30 November 2016 - iMsg
Howdy!

Has anyone seen a list of all the effects this command can trigger?
Should look something like this: https://zdoom.org/wiki/DMFlags

Thanks!
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2Chainz Dabbing Santa (38 comments)
Posted by eburbeck @ 18:35 CST, 29 November 2016 - iMsg
Just ordered one of these bitches for all those ugly xmas sweater parties comin' up:



I bet Jamalz et al are gonna be all over this (if they aren't already) - stylin' gear!

get yours here
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HoQ TDM Fall Season Round #9 (7 comments)
Posted by doz3r @ 16:08 CST, 29 November 2016 - iMsg
The schedule for round 9 looks like this:


Sunday 04/12/16 14:00 CST
Div1 Europe Rekt vs Russia B52 reschedule
Div1 Hungary Team Hungary vs Russia KogdaKvad reschedule

Monday 05/12/16 14:00 CST
Div2 Europe I Love My Squad vs Europe last pick reschedule
Div2 Europe I Love My Squad vs Europe Hateful Eight @ 22:00 CET
Div2 Europe Worldstar vs Europe nerds
Div2 Europe Hateful Eight vs Sweden OverPowered
Div3 Russia Quake Live Players Alliance vs Europe etcetera

Tuesday 06/12/16 14:00 CST
Div3 Europe etcetera vs Russia nameLess
Div3 Russia Raks vs Russia Quake Live Players Alliance
Div3 Czech Republic Virtual Owners vs Poland Platige Team


Streams: twitch xkisa twitch 102 twitch rehepapp twitch DMTV twitch mdv
Links: Donations, Rules, Schedule, mIRC HoQLeagues, Twitter HouseofQuake
Edited by doz3r at 14:15 CST, 30 November 2016 - 907 Hits
125 FPS Sunday Cup#63 (Season#33) (9 comments)
Posted by Nico_QD @ 08:04 CST, 29 November 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 09:00 CST, 4 December 2016 to 13:00 CST, 4 December 2016
Schedule: Passed

The 125 FPS QuakeLive Duel Sunday Cup #63, as a part of Duel Season#33 (Nov-Dec 2016), will take place this weekend.
Season#33 includes 6 SundayCups and Final Day 18 December.


Donate: 125FPS Donate link.
Streams: Russia 102, United Kingdom zLive, Stream's HUB
Links: Season#32 page, Event Rules, Web chat, 125FPS Balance 2015-2016; 125FPS Discord
Edited by Nico_QD at 01:14 CST, 3 December 2016 - 1102 Hits
Best GAME you PLAYED past 10 YEARS? (74 comments)
Posted by Fizzle @ 03:27 CST, 29 November 2016 - iMsg
I SAID AYOOOOOOOOO

I SAID AYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ITS CHA BOI FIZZLE back with a new tread =]

If me [Fizzle] was at the bar with you [legend reader of this post AKA you] and i order you a cold one and you take a couple sips and i look at you in the EYES and we pause for just a sec =]

THEN I ASK YOU THE QUESTION

"so =] what is de best game you played in last 10 years"

if you asked me that i would say QUAKE LIVE

but i am more interest in your choice please let me know

SO I CAN JUDGE YOUR TASTE IN VIDEO GAMES =]
[bonus question: what do you drink in the bar"]
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Wavey (28 comments)
Posted by Profanum @ 20:24 CST, 28 November 2016 - iMsg



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Rating: 8.6 (18 votes)
Better than my previous movie making effort but still could've done various things better (going to save the effort for another movie down the line) aswell as Reflex demo playbacks missing some conveniances such as audio capture so I ended up using shadowplay hence why It's a bit more lossy looking. All clips are from Australian and New Zealand players from around June to October 2016 If I recall correctly. "Wavey" comes from ztk's excessive use of the word aswell It being the first thing he said to me once I told him I was making a movie. Lastly for those wondering where I am lately Im on hiatus and only popping In on Oceanic AFPS weekly events If Im up for It. I will return after some more Reflex updates and to check out Diabotical once It's available.

Discord Community
Reflex Australia - https://discord.gg/0bCvS7Ldv1UiF983
Oceanic AFPS - https://discord.gg/DNfG3zy
Discord Reflex Global - https://discord.gg/VAtHf2N
Official Site - https://www.reflexarena.com/

Starring: Profanum, Tidy Yak, Dorinos, apa3, Dacra, Ultra, Matt, Slit Wrists

Music
Mastodon - Curl of the Burl
Opeth - Reverie/Harlequin Forest

Edited by Profanum at 20:24 CST, 28 November 2016 - 755 Hits
MOST PATHETIC THING YOU DID? (53 comments)
Posted by dizzle @ 13:00 CST, 28 November 2016 - iMsg
READ THE TITLE AND POST IT MY DUDES =]
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CPMA Beginners KirbyCup (25 comments)
Posted by ArcticRevrus @ 11:29 CST, 28 November 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 17:30 CST, 8 December 2016 to 19:30 CST, 8 December 2016
Begins In:

A beginners cup for Challenge ProMode Arena will be held on Friday December 9, 2016 at 17:30 CST. Players from all regions are welcome.

This will be double elimination format, with all games being played in a best of three, with grand finals being best of five.


Links: Signups, challonge Brackets, CPMA Discord
Streams: CPMAKirbyCup
Edited by Teen Queen at 13:43 CST, 28 November 2016 - 1501 Hits
Would This Mouse Pad be Fine to Use? (10 comments)
Posted by zenmaster @ 10:35 CST, 28 November 2016 - iMsg
https://www.amazon.com/TekMat-11-Inch-17-Inch...007ZSNVSI/

I've never seen talk about gun cleaning mats (which are basically just large cloth mouse pads) around these forums and was curious as to what people would think.

I think this is a cheaper alternative to most large gaming mousepads that would work well.

I'd love to get an Artisan but just don't have the cash and am considering just getting this instead of waiting a few weeks to grab an Artisan Shiden.
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Weird keyboard problem (12 comments)
Posted by linoleuM @ 09:35 CST, 28 November 2016 - iMsg
Hi guys, I'm looking to see if I can get some help from here because I couldn't find any solution by searching google.

I recently got a new keyboard (cheap Chinese mechanical keyboard, I wanted to try blue switches to see if I liked them) and a couple weeks after I got it I noticed that sometimes when playing games, it's as if my key inputs would continue after I pressed them (i.e. "a" key would kept being input so I would go left and couldn't move any other directions.)

Of course, my first reflex was to change back my keyboard to my previous one (Razer Blackwidow Stealth) but the same problem continued and I still can't game at the moment.

The Chinese keyboard has polling rate options so I thought it might be that and tried plugging it back in and changing the rate but nothing works.

I haven't tried formatting yet, I would like to avoid it as much as possible (don't have a Windows CD right now.)

Could someone help please?
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PQL Fragvid (14 comments)
Posted by d3phx @ 00:10 CST, 28 November 2016 - iMsg



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Rating: 4.2 (17 votes)
Edited by d3phx at 00:12 CST, 28 November 2016 - 504 Hits
I'll play the season 3 of OW only cause (62 comments)
Posted by He4rTL3sS @ 19:04 CST, 27 November 2016 - iMsg
... C O O L L E R won DreamHack with misfits, and they finally buffed the soldier:76 (from 17dmg/hit to 20dmg/hit).

Ofc I'm going to play s76 ONLY, and I don't plan on getting pro or anything, I'll probably play when I'll be done with already 2-3 hours of thunderstruck :D, or maybe 1-2 hours before thunderstruck :>

I don't like Overwatch much but at least you can shoot at moving targets, and there's s76, the only interesting hero to me. Moving targets + MG/LG-like weapon = fun. The rest : CBA.
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Need some help with lag issue 2 (3 comments)
Posted by 404 @ 01:02 CST, 26 November 2016 - iMsg
Hi Guys..

I have a problem I'd really like some help with. Details are.

What it is, is a 5 second lag. It's consistently the same in a way that I get a split second peak of 999 and then its ok for a split second. And then I get a 5 second lag period where My ping peaks to 999. It's consistently the same each time. It happens after about 10 minutes of play and can happen 3 times in a duel or none. And you know what I do? Ragequit! It's so frustrating and I have been trying to determine the cause of it. It seems to randomly happen.

There's nothing consistent in my play and it seems to randomly occur.

It's consistent in a way how the lag happens.
It has been happening for the last month or so and after doing virus and malware scans with Avira, malwarebytes, spybot search and destroy, adwcleaner. it still occurs.

I've deleted quakelive and reinstalled and started config from scratch. ( including turning off steamcloud storage)

I noticed it happened after I downloaded someones config. I was wondering if there is some setting in his config that caused me to lag.Like any hardware stetting that anyone knows about??? This is what I really thought it was. But I have done the reinstall of quakelive and reset the config and it still occurs.

Although I did turn off steamcloud and did a clean reinstall.. I notice I am still using a hud (ui/Best_HUD.cfg) Which I used before the reinstall now it's still there. I don't know how it can be as I can't find it anywhere on my computer although it continues to load.

I've played quake since 2002 and am at my wits end trying to solve this issue.. It's so frustrating.
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Let's stop the hate (42 comments)
Posted by mray557 @ 12:51 CST, 25 November 2016 - iMsg
I just want a change. I realized people on quake are so damn toxic. Why can't we all just be friends man? People talk smack to me almost immediately when they come in a server to play. C'mon man. Let's be nice to each other. I'm trying to do less bad things. Please don't provoke me. Don't provoke the beast within me!
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Damn good film/cinema/kino (34 comments)
Posted by T1E @ 11:17 CST, 25 November 2016 - iMsg
Just recently rewatched and damn highly recommend:

Redbelt (David Mamet, 2008)

Mamet is not as known in Europe as he's with American film students and what not. Undeservedly. This is a brilliant piece, that at first plays out like one of those 08/15 regular not so interesting drama/action/relationship/everything piece with some sort of feature/gimmick which in this case is martial arts. Everything about it is just 100% there in terms of camera and actors, so I kept watching compared to let's say one of those usual Oscar baits that I don't really want to watch anymore.

But the last third/quarter just goes beyond everything. Not because it changes the story/plot or anything, just because the film changes from this 08/15 thing to a interesting work on film(s) itself.

If you LOVED those martial arts films from the 1990s or w/e and you understand how they work and manipulate you and stuff, this will be one of your favourites as well.




If you want to post in this thread, pls don't post films from those oh so alternative directors such as Tarantino, Lynch, Refn, Kubrick, Nolan. This one is reserved for those films that are just a degree less popular. Everybody knows these anyway.
Edited by T1E at 11:18 CST, 25 November 2016 - 897 Hits
No Quake at DreamHack? (53 comments)
Posted by Zalon @ 06:22 CST, 25 November 2016 - iMsg
What's the deal with no Quake at DreamHack Winter?

I thought they were consistent with Quake tournaments at their Winter/Summer events? Even going as far as having QuakeWorld for a few events between Quake3 and Quake Live.

Who fucked up?
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BEST METHOD TO DISPOSE OF TRASH (26 comments)
Posted by Fizzle @ 03:35 CST, 25 November 2016 - iMsg
OK OK OK ESR

put yourself in my shoe

i am in this situation

i had my COMPETITORS in my neighborhood trying to hustle on my patch and i DO NOT WANT people cuttin into my profits

you feel me?

so i had to make a NECCESSARY MOVE to keep my "BUSINESSES" moving in forward and new direction.... so now sticky situation

i said my best boys to dispose of this trash

now i have problematics

how do you best dispose of this "TRASH"

- i make these thread here because ESR always had my back in the past -

ESR fam u always cum thru so cum thru for a niqqa
-peace
fizzle (Y)

=]
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TCPM $1000 Series - Regist. Closing Soon (25 comments)
Posted by TheMafia @ 16:54 CST, 24 November 2016 - iMsg
Seeding Cup Results
Seeding Cup VOD Link

TourneyCPM $1000 Series Schedule

Good luck and have fun, I hope everyone brings their A-game, lots of prizes for all so dont give up too soon! I cannot wait to see who steps up and surprises us all!

Links: cpmaTourneyCPM Discord, TourneyCPM $1000 Series Official Page, Paypal Donations, Get CPMA Tourney CPM'S startup pack, Challonge Page
Edited by TheMafia at 09:58 CST, 25 November 2016 - 5685 Hits
CPMA KOTH Cups (19 comments)
Posted by xerosawyer @ 15:16 CST, 24 November 2016 - iMsg
The Challenge Promode community will be hosting two King of the Hill events on Saturday November 26, 2016, which will cater to European, and North American players.

King of the Hill events are pretty straight forward: Players show-up on match day, and register, and once the event begin, registered players will be filtered into a queue. The event will begin with the two weakest players dueling in a BO1, The winner of which continues to play all challengers until they lose, at which point they will placed at the end of the player queue. Basically winner stays on. Challengers get to select the map, and the entire event will occur on a single server. Yes, you can play in both events ;)

• The first cup will be a Europe European King of the Hill tournament, which will begin at 11:00 CST.
• The second cup be a CanadaMexicoUnited States of America North American King of the Hill tournament, which will begin at 17:00 CST.

To register, all you have to do is join the CPMA Discord on the day of the event and ask Canada xero (me) to be add you to the queue. Remember to tell me which region you're from! Once confirmed, you will be given an appropriate Discord Role, which will identify you as a competitor in the event.

The events will streamed live via Canada dr0_vision, with resident Promode expert Denmark black, co-casting the European event.



Links: cpma Playmorepromode.org, CPMA Discord
Streams: twitchUnited Kingdom dr0_vision
Edited by xerosawyer at 21:13 CST, 26 November 2016 - 1443 Hits
Twitch OBS black screen (14 comments)
Posted by CAREEM @ 00:44 CST, 24 November 2016 - iMsg
I can hear sound, but im getting black screen. Does anyone else having this problem? I have checked on youtube "OBS blackscreen problem in win10" none of fix is working for me.

Do you know any other program for good pricing or free? No xsplit please.


Admins add my twitch to ESR website please:

twitch.com/careem_slo

Thanks, much appreciated!
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new q3 pro osp configs (15 comments)
Posted by dusanka @ 07:00 CST, 23 November 2016 - iMsg
If anyone know where to download new pro q3 osp configs from eswc or quakecon, please share the link.
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125 FPS Sunday Cup#62 (Season#33) (22 comments)
Posted by Nico_QD @ 16:02 CST, 22 November 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 09:00 CST, 27 November 2016 to 14:00 CST, 27 November 2016
Schedule: Passed

The 125 FPS QuakeLive Duel Sunday Cup #62, as a part of Duel Season#33 (Nov-Dec 2016), will take place this weekend.
Season#33 includes 6 SundayCups and Final Day 18 December.


Donate: 125FPS Donate link.
Streams: Russia 102, United Kingdom zLive, Stream's HUB
Links: Season#32 page, Event Rules, Web chat, 125FPS Balance 2015-2016; 125FPS Discord
Edited by Nico_QD at 16:02 CST, 22 November 2016 - 1874 Hits
HoQ TDM Fall Season Round #8 (11 comments)
Posted by doz3r @ 15:36 CST, 22 November 2016 - iMsg
The schedule for round 8 looks like this:


Monday 28/11/16 14:00 CST
Div2 Europe last pick vs Europe Worldstar
Div2 Europe nerds vs Sweden OverPowered

Tuesday 29/11/16 14:00 CST
Div3 Poland Platige Team vs Russia Raks
Div1 Hungary Team Hungary vs Europe Rekt @ 22:00 CET

Monday 05/12/16 14:00 CST
Div2 Europe I Love My Squad vs Europe Hateful Eight @ 22:00 CET
Div3 Russia Quake Live Players Alliance vs Europe etcetera @ 21:00 CET

Streams: twitch xkisa twitch 102 twitch rehepapp twitch DMTV twitch mdv
Links: Donations, Rules, Schedule, mIRC HoQLeagues, Twitter HouseofQuake
Edited by doz3r at 13:24 CST, 29 November 2016 - 1304 Hits
Tricks to Dodge (149 comments)
Posted by mray557 @ 16:06 CST, 21 November 2016 - iMsg
I need your help. Im trying to get 2200 in two weeks. I'm 1800 now. I cleared my schedule for 2 weeks for this.

My weakness is LG and dodging. People rocket me really ez. I need pointers.
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Stream tonight (2 comments)
Posted by Zhu_Cx @ 01:28 CST, 21 November 2016 - iMsg
Lets see if I can still win against anybody.

www.twitch.tv/gg_pontus
Edited by Zhu_Cx at 01:29 CST, 21 November 2016 - 524 Hits
If you're up late tonight like 5am est.. (2 comments)
Posted by magadog @ 00:16 CST, 21 November 2016 - iMsg
Or up early, Winz team rogue vs envyus in Korean LAN live Quarterfinals. i think it's like $100k tourney.
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Need some help with lag issue (2 comments)
Posted by 404 @ 19:17 CST, 20 November 2016 - iMsg
Hi Guys..

I have a problem I'd really like some help with. Details are.

What it is, is a 5 second lag. It's consistently the same in a way that I get a split second peak of 999 and then its ok for a split second. And then I get a 5 second lag period where My ping peaks to 999. It's consistently the same each time. It happens after about 10 minutes of play and can happen 3 times in a duel, or only one time. And you know what I do? Ragequit! It's so frustrating and I have been trying to determine the cause of it. It seems to randomly happen.

There's nothing consistent in my play and it seems to randomly occur.

It's consistent in a way how the lag happens, and happens generally after 10 minutes of play and happens infrequently enough that it is approximately every 10 to 30 minutes.
It has been happening for the last month or so and after doing virus and malware scans with Avira, malwarebytes, spybot search and destroy, adwcleaner. it still occurs.

I've deleted quakelive and reinstalled and started config from scratch. ( including turning off steamcloud storage)

One thing I noticed and no judgement is projected. I noticed it happened after I downloaded Fraze's config. I was wondering if there is some setting in his config that caused me to lag. This is what I really thought it was. But I have done the reinstall of quakelive and reset the config and it still occurs.

Although I did turn off steamcloud and did a clean reinstall.. I notice I am still using a hud (ui/Best_HUD.cfg) Which I used before the reinstall and I don't know how it can be as I can't find it anywhere on my computer although it continues to load.

I've played quake since 2002 and am at my wit's end trying to solve this issue.. It's so frustrating.

Please have a look at the uploaded pictures. I took some screenshots of the lagometer as the lag was happening. I really don't know what else to do. I would like to focus on that it is something in my config as I do not get any lag when I play doom online or stream videos etc.

Please help me :(
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The best TDM/CTF QL Players in OCEANIA (35 comments)
Posted by mickzerofive @ 15:22 CST, 20 November 2016 - iMsg
hey everyone, just wanted to say thanks for the support over the years that everybody gave to the Oceania scene and 4Seasons Gaming. I have put together a top 10 CTF/TDM players list in the best way i could think to structure it. A lot of you will already know players like Australia Fraze, Australia Camma, Australia Python and Australia Dandaking but we had a lot of other decent players who never got to come over, further develop their games and show Oceania talent. Hopefully video not too boring, yes it does have Quake in it :) We will be back in 2017 and will see you again soon


Links: Website, Facebook Facebook, tweet Twitter, twitch Twitch, Discord
Edited by Teen Queen at 15:29 CST, 20 November 2016 - 1806 Hits
Trolling on ESR nowadays (23 comments)
Posted by asyyy @ 12:59 CST, 20 November 2016 - iMsg
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Nicest thing you ever did for others (69 comments)
Posted by gojira_ @ 11:11 CST, 20 November 2016 - iMsg
You can't get paid to do it.

I help organize a bluegrass music session every Friday for old folks.

Edit: Basically a bunch of people volunteer to play bluegrass and country music for fun.
Edited by gojira_ at 11:18 CST, 20 November 2016 - 3777 Hits
Giving away KTEC 9500+ (No comments)
Posted by victus @ 17:22 CST, 18 November 2016 - iMsg
I don't know if anyone would be interested, but I am giving away a KTEC KTM-9500+, used but in great shape, with hyperglides. Those who are interested in SCBW and the Korean scene will know about this mouse. Feel free to PM me.
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Mentality (32 comments)
Posted by mray557 @ 15:03 CST, 18 November 2016 - iMsg
I realized if you approach the game with a learning mentality, you're less likely to get mad.
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best time to buss the blunt? (41 comments)
Posted by Fizzle @ 10:16 CST, 18 November 2016 - iMsg
when is the bess time to buss the blunt?? =]

i like to buss the blunt after i am successing at something for example when i beat a bitch into submission on the streets =]

or when i make that mid air frag on DM6

you know what the fuck i do???

i buss the blunt =]<o~~~

i wanna know NOW when is your fav time to buss the blunt

tonight i will buss the blunt and eat some chips and analysis my next "BUSINESS" move

you feel me

*busses the blunt*
=]<o~~~

-peace (Y)
fizzle
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doom clay version (3 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 08:43 CST, 18 November 2016 - iMsg
This is awesome and if you don't agree you're wrong


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Clan arena and rocket arena history ques (21 comments)
Posted by sulit @ 07:13 CST, 18 November 2016 - iMsg
To all old school quake vets here on esr. How popular was clan arena or ra mod in the older quake games? (Qw, q2, q3a) ? Was it the most popular mode?
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HELP ME BUILD A PC PLEASE (3 comments)
Posted by Fizzle @ 02:52 CST, 18 November 2016 - iMsg
yooooo ESR =]

wat up doe i hope your are good and you putin bread on the table etc

i need your advices!!!

HELP ME BUILD A CHEAP PC

that compatible to run a CS:GO and a Quake Live on MAX SETTINGS with 144FPS+++

please cheap the better

i have budgets some 2100 PLN.

any response is appecriated

thank you for reading and have a nice time today =]<o~~~

if all fails i steal PC from local lan PARTY =] no problem
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TCPM $1000 Series Rules & Seeding Cup (12 comments)
Posted by TheMafia @ 19:07 CST, 17 November 2016 - iMsg
Seeding Cup - ($45 Prize pool) For players that have entered and paid for at least one TCPM 1k Series Tournament. It is NOT mandatory.

Main Event update: TourneyCPM $1000 Quake Reborn Series (Dec 2 - 4):
The official rules have been released for both events. A schedule has been released as part of the rules. The following is an abbreviated version of the schedule, a link to the full description is below. In short you have the option to start your duels on Dec 2, 6:00pm EST (00:00 CET). The mandatory check in starts the next day, Dec 3, 12:00pm EST (18:00 CET). During this day the brackets up to the quarter finals will be played out for both tournaments. Quarter final matches will not be played until Dec 4, 12:00pm EST (18:00 CET). Sunday will be devoted to the last portion of the brackets and the finals and grand finals. Details below. A new map will be introduced, 'thct7', it is a port from reflex. A new map to almost everyone ported over from Reflex. Map Downloads here.


Links: cpmaTourneyCPM Discord, TourneyCPM $1000 Series Official Page, Paypal Donations, Get CPMA Tourney CPM'S startup pack, Challonge Page
Edited by Badb0y at 10:50 CST, 23 November 2016 - 1991 Hits
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HoQ TDM Fall Season Round #7 (16 comments)
Posted by doz3r @ 13:01 CST, 17 November 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 14:00 CST, 20 November 2016 to 16:00 CST, 20 November 2016
Schedule: Passed

The schedule for round 7 looks like this:

Sunday 20/11/16 14:00 CST
Div1 Europe Rekt vs Russia KogdaKvad
Div1 Russia B52 vs Europe Pacmen
Div3 Russia nameLess vs Europe Zombei @ 16:00 CET
Div3 Europe Zombei vs Russia nameLess @ 17:00 CET

Monday 21/11/16 14:00 CST
Div2 Europe Hateful Eight vs Europe last pick
Div2 Europe nerds vs Europe I Love My Squad
Div2 Sweden OverPowered vs Europe Worldstar
Div2 Europe Worldstar vs Europe I Love My Squad @ 22:00 CET

Tuesday 22/11/16 14:00 CST
Div3 Europe etcetera vs Russia Quake Live Players Alliance
Div3 Russia Raks vs Poland Platige Team

Streams: twitch xkisa twitch 102 twitch rehepapp twitch DMTV twitch mdv
Links: Donations, Rules, Schedule, mIRC HoQLeagues, Twitter HouseofQuake
Edited by Badb0y at 10:50 CST, 23 November 2016 - 1732 Hits
Defrag Variant. Tried it? (4 comments)
Posted by SaturdayEveningPost @ 12:02 CST, 17 November 2016 - iMsg
Hello I was browsing steams games and found what seems to be a Defrag variant with a few different twists than most are used too.

Has anyone tried it? When I build a new computer, I think I'll give it a try.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/284460/?snr=1_4_4__128
Edited by Teen Queen at 14:12 CST, 17 November 2016 - 807 Hits
KT Giga Legends Match (23 comments)
Posted by esdf @ 14:51 CST, 16 November 2016 - iMsg
It's safe to say that SC2 ain't doing that well in Korea after almost every player in the scene (aside from JAGW ones) got teamless. On the other hand, the game that got killed so SC2 could grow roots (ty Blizzard) is thriving once again.

The headline of the month is "TYRANT IS BACK". With sc2_zerg Jaedong back, the 4 pillars of Starcraft (Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, Stork) are back in the game that made them. With that in mind, it's only appropriate to have a tournament where those player go at each other and that's what this tournament's all about.

Without further ado, the TaekBangLeeSsang tournament is taking place on November 19th @ 03:00 CST.

Get hyped.

Links: KT Giga Legends
VOD: YouTube YouTube
Edited by esdf at 06:38 CST, 19 November 2016 - 1603 Hits
Quake Champions eSports Coordinator (117 comments)
Posted by ciearok @ 00:48 CST, 16 November 2016 - iMsg
they're hiring!! https://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/1171

eSports Coordinator
Division: id Software | Department: Production | Location: Richardson , TX, US

id Software, part of the ZeniMax Media Inc. family, is seeking a veteran eSports Coordinator to manage global eSports operations for Quake Champions.

At id, we’re committed to crafting definitive games, and we’re looking for someone equally passionate about helping us craft a long-term eSports future with Quake Champions.

The ideal candidate has an intrinsic passion for achieving the best possible results, a substantial understanding of event management and competitive gameplay systems, and a natural energy that inspires everyone around them.

Responsibilities:

Develop and execute a plan for eSports events, ensuring everything from top-to-bottom is successful.
Understand, build, and manage the relationship with the eSports community.
Work with international partners and internal teams to coordinate various events throughout the year.
Work with eSports teams from all over the world to populate and run successful eSports events.
Collaborate with senior leadership to define KPIs and develop initiatives that improve results.
Report the state of eSports initiatives with honesty and clarity to the team and senior leadership.

Requirements:

3+ years in the game industry, including at least one shipped multiplayer title in a lead or coordinator position
Bachelor’s degree or relevant experience
Experience managing or coordinating independent teams
Experience managing large budgets
Sufficient experience with competitive games to perform high-level analysis
Excellent verbal, written, and interpersonal skills
Excellent analytical and time management skills
Very comfortable with frequent travel

Desired Skills:

Experience coordinating international events
Experience with competitive games
Proficient in rocket jumping

How to Apply

To apply for this position you will be redirected to the job submission form at Taleo.com, our third-party applicant tracking system. While Taleo.com is not hosted by ZeniMax Media and does not fall under our Privacy Policy, only employees of our Human Resources department will be able to view your submitted information. Information collected via the job submission form is subject to Taleo.com’s privacy policy.
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FREE BRICKS (10 comments)
Posted by sonic @ 19:02 CST, 15 November 2016 - iMsg
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Crazyal train thread 9001 & UK LANS? (7 comments)
Posted by CrazyAl @ 09:52 CST, 15 November 2016 - iMsg
The LAN is over. I came 1st in DOOMBRINGER, 2nd in Warsow and Quake live. The real champion of this lan is the host, Neeple.

Other than that we got very drunk on white Russians, cocktails and champagne. Shout out to Gilanguar for downing 5 shots of vodka in one go while sitting in a slav squat. Shout out to Neeple for cleaning up the fucking mess he made afterwards. Shout out to Kristus for coming all the way from Sweden to play with us. Shout out to Qualx for Qualxing.

When I get home I'll upload a bunch of random pics of the madlads. Right now I wanna say that in future we want to have a bigger LAN open to the public with any and all afps games people want to play. We'll have tournaments, casual game modes and general shenanigans. I'm very confident that there are enough afps players in the UK to make such an event viable. So if you're interested in that kinda thing, please let us know.

Make arenafps great again.

Edited by CrazyAl at 10:21 CST, 15 November 2016 - 749 Hits
Coolest bottle opener or what (11 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 04:47 CST, 14 November 2016 - iMsg
This video was removed for breaking the youtube guideline(s) for one of the following reasons:


  • Animal cruelty

  • Depiction or torture of animals

  • Raged PETA activists






I cannot for the life of me ever spell "coolest" and "cooler" correctly again, screw you ESR.
Edited by Teen Queen at 04:47 CST, 14 November 2016 - 1331 Hits
125 FPS Sunday Cup#61 (Season#33) (16 comments)
Posted by Nico_QD @ 03:43 CST, 14 November 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 09:00 CST, 20 November 2016 to 13:00 CST, 20 November 2016
Schedule: Passed

The 125 FPS QuakeLive Duel Sunday Cup #61, as a part of Duel Season#33 (Nov-Dec 2016), will take place this weekend.
Season#33 includes 6 SundayCups and Final Day 18 December.


Donate: 125FPS Donate link.
Streams: Russia 102, United Kingdom zLive, Stream's HUB
Links: Season#32 page, Event Rules, Web chat, 125FPS Balance 2015-2016; 125FPS Discord
Edited by Nico_QD at 08:33 CST, 20 November 2016 - 2168 Hits
means of production man (6 comments)
Posted by ika @ 02:41 CST, 14 November 2016 - iMsg
startimg a new youtuvbe show? give clicsk



feedback and healthy discussion below please ;]
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Need some help guys! (10 comments)
Posted by He4rTL3sS @ 18:37 CST, 12 November 2016 - iMsg
Where can I contact gaiia, kyto, rama ?

IRC ? what channel(s) ? Discord ? Give me links pls ! :)

thanks!
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Onslaught's posts (9 comments)
Posted by victus @ 14:28 CST, 12 November 2016 - iMsg
There used to be a guy who used the name Onslaught and he used to write articles/columns here. I wanted to look at some again and I tried finding them but I could not do it from the site itself, nor could I find Wayback Machine to be of assistance.
Can someone help me find those posts?
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Best Flagrun Ever (4 comments)
Posted by bolus major @ 03:58 CST, 12 November 2016 - iMsg
IG vs. SN4K3 South murica 2016 CUP

Watch that mofo 'rat' at first, camping quietly, then shooting off ,shaking off multiple opponents and bringing it home in an athletic fashion.

Commentary by zoto attenbro.
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Who is Demiurge?! (45 comments, locked)
Posted by mray557 @ 12:10 CST, 11 November 2016 - iMsg
Who this fool think he is? The head admin of this site? No ESR programmers? I thought ESR lacks "pro gamers" but my god, how can they not have any credible technician around? Does he even game? He doesn't have any gaming profile around for me to look at. thus lacking an intelligence assessment of this person.
Locked by Demiurge at 08:09 CST, 16 November 2016 - 2762 Hits
125 FPS Sunday Cup#60 (Season#33) (30 comments)
Posted by Nico_QD @ 11:10 CST, 11 November 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 10:00 CST, 13 November 2016 to 14:00 CST, 13 November 2016
Schedule: Passed

The 125 FPS QuakeLive Duel Sunday Cup #60, as a part of Duel Season#33 (Nov-Dec 2016), will take place this weekend.
Season#33 includes 6 SundayCups and Final Day 18 December.


Donate: 125FPS Donate link.
Streams: Russia 102, United Kingdom zLive, Stream's HUB
Links: Season#32 page, Event Rules, Web chat, 125FPS Balance 2015-2016;
Edited by Nico_QD at 03:45 CST, 14 November 2016 - 2722 Hits
QUAKE CHAMPIONS: NEW CHAMPION GAY (23 comments)
Posted by wwwAnyBoy @ 07:17 CST, 11 November 2016 - iMsg
Blizzard makes new GAY heros in OVerwatch.

I think new Quake Champions must be in trend, for more money, because Quake will be more TDMish

What you think, guys?
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Crazyal train thread 9000 (9 comments)
Posted by CrazyAl @ 07:08 CST, 11 November 2016 - iMsg
Hello again my people of esreality. The time has come again where I must travel cross country by rail. Once again I invite you all to join me on my journey today.

I am travelling to a LAN in the United Kingdom UK where I will compete in various arenafps tournaments. One of which I'll be defending my title in.

http://m.imgur.com/tmtojdH

Wish me luck.
Edited by CrazyAl at 07:08 CST, 11 November 2016 - 667 Hits
most funny thread on esr (esr classics) (8 comments)
Posted by c1 @ 12:19 CST, 10 November 2016 - iMsg
Hi

I thought it be cool to sum up the most entertainment threads on esr.

I start with "Entry 36" of the wallpaper contest because the pic was just epic and the comments made it even better. I never laughed so many tears about a thread ever again.

http://esreality.com/post/1252834/re-entry-36/

now go on plz
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Weapon bar customization (2 comments)
Posted by Galuz @ 05:09 CST, 10 November 2016 - iMsg
Does anyone know the cvar to change the weapon bar so it hang on the right side for OSP?
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OSP for quake (2 comments)
Posted by Galuz @ 04:04 CST, 10 November 2016 - iMsg
Does anyone know when OSP first came out for quake 3?
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Overwatch Fragmovie - "Play with the bes (8 comments)
Posted by Myboosting @ 03:14 CST, 10 November 2016 - iMsg
Hey, guys!

For the ones that haven't heard of us we are Myboosting.com. One of the leaders on the Overwatch boosting and coaching market.
We started a new venture a while back and the results are now ready to share.

We prepared a Fragmovie for our customers and other Overwatch fans around the world. We have one of the very best in the game working on our website and we think it shows in these clips! Hope you enjoy what you see!

Trailer (1:30 min) -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQF28iD92D8



Full PC fragmovie (8:50 min) -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOvFJjnxSEQ



Full Xbox/PS4 fragmovie (2:16 min) -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsbQbqipJkQ



We spent a lot of hours and work making this as good as possible. It's our first video of that rank so there might be some mistakes. We intend to make these clips as regular as we can and we'll be improving over time. Thank you for your time and we hope you like what you saw!

A like or a share is much appreciated

Regards,
Myboosting.com team.
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HoQ TDM Fall Season Round #6 (34 comments)
Posted by doz3r @ 16:43 CST, 9 November 2016 - iMsg
The schedule for round 6 looks like this:

Sunday 13/11/16 14:00 CST
Div1 Russia KogdaKvad vs Russia B52 @ 20:00 CET
Div1 Europe Pacmen vs Hungary Team Hungary reschedule

Monday 14/11/16 14:00 CST
Div1 Hungary Team Hungary vs Europe Pacmen
Div2 Europe last pick vs Sweden OverPowered
Div2 Europe nerds vs Europe Hateful Eight @ 20:00 CET
Div2 Europe Hateful Eight vs Europe nerds
Div2 Europe Worldstar vs Europe I Love My Squad reschedule

Tuesday 15/11/16 14:00 CST
Div3 Russia nameLess vs Europe etcetera @ 20:00 CET

Thursday 17/11/16 12:00 CST
Div3 Russia Quake Live Players Alliance vs Russia Raks @ 17:30 CET

Streams: twitch xkisa twitch 102 twitch rehepapp twitch DMTV twitch mdv
Links: Donations, Rules, Schedule, mIRC HoQLeagues, Twitter HouseofQuake
Edited by Badb0y at 10:50 CST, 23 November 2016 - 2817 Hits
Steam Server Browser not working (6 comments)
Posted by CAREEM @ 10:47 CST, 9 November 2016 - iMsg
My Steam Server Browser suddenly stopped working.

It seems that server is not working anymore:

hl2master.steampowered.com:27011

Anyone else facing this problem?

Does anyone have solution for this to fix?
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free cleaning BTEC or something (21 comments)
Posted by p0rt @ 04:46 CST, 9 November 2016 - iMsg
http://www.somerset.ac.uk/courses/level-2-cer...kills.html

a course from a real college, and saves you £120, working in a amazon warehouse will be easy if you have a forklift licence, everytime they advertise im suppose to goto the registration day in bristol, then you work out its £200 a month on the train to get there

health & safety is only £30 for CIEH or ROSPA

happy £22k for doing not much
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KEK, I can't make funny without 4chan (26 comments)
Posted by sonic @ 04:06 CST, 9 November 2016 - iMsg
Edited by Demiurge at 09:14 CST, 15 November 2016 - 1666 Hits
steam account with ql (32 comments)
Posted by Snow_Crash @ 02:12 CST, 9 November 2016 - iMsg
I have some friends who want to play the game as they used to play on pre steam.
They have to pay now which is retarded so If any of you guys had a spare account would be nice.
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Donald "Trump" Trump wins Elections 2016 (374 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 00:53 CST, 9 November 2016 - iMsg
Guess paying all those youtubers for some #520 xD! Take a #selfie with Hellery didn't really pay off. So much for sticking with the #rad kids

HASHTAG SORRY NOT SORRY XD

DM, share, subscribe and instagram to make sure Hillary wins.


(resized based on number of thread hits)



GL america, your president is now a Trumpet c:
Edited by Teen Queen at 03:48 CST, 14 November 2016 - 10508 Hits
Mac for video editing? (5 comments)
Posted by dxout4hrmbe @ 14:16 CST, 8 November 2016 - iMsg
I really want to take up video editing for gaming in particular. The thing is, I also want to code and have been told that Macs are better than PC's for coding, especially in swift and if you wanted to make an iphone app. Any coders here have experience with both or either and can recommend me one or the other?

this problem would have been completely alleviated if the ipad came with macos instead of the shitty ios, where you would (i presume) be able to run xcode and stuff. hence i would buy both. When it comes to video editing, however, I guess PC is much more powerful. In particular, I want to make some quake movies leading up to one (ideally) community frag movie and I guess this can't be done on a mac with wolfcam, let alone the quake game, right?
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BenQ ZOWIE releases a 240Hz monitor (22 comments)
Posted by nsx0r @ 01:25 CST, 8 November 2016 - iMsg
The BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 is the first monitor with a 240Hz native refresh rate (no overclocking or tweaking needed).
Of course it's a TN panel, with a resolution of 1920x1080 and a diagonal of 24.5" for a 16:9 aspect ratio and 1ms GtG response time.
It also has "Shields", which are some kind of adjustable blinders that used to be cool in the late 90's offices, but we all know that real gamers have no idea what sunlight is.
There are all kinds of connectors: DVI-DL, HDMI (x2), DP (1.2) for the video, an integrated USB hub, and for audio the now-defunct headphone and microphone jacks.














All the infos on the official product page: http://zowie.benq.com/en/product/monitor/xl/xl2540.html

Source: http://zowie.benq.com/en/news/2016/benq-zowie...l2540.html
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RAPHA @ nfl game! (5 comments)
Posted by ciearok @ 21:29 CST, 7 November 2016 - iMsg
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Bestest Zowie mouse (3 comments)
Posted by daddy05 @ 14:04 CST, 7 November 2016 - iMsg
http://www.emag.ro/mouse/zowie/c
which one is the smallest? and is it any good?
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Fair warning. (63 comments)
Posted by voidless @ 09:35 CST, 7 November 2016 - iMsg
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere so guess i will.

The last 2months there have been several private cheats derived from the same source passed around to some competitive players and trolls.

This is just a fair warning to any cup admins to keep your eyes open as this cheat has been used in cups by fairly known players on at least a couple occasions.

I would suggest looking at players who have over night gotten a lot better starting about a month or more back as that is when it got released.



Please start using a screenshot client as this problem is easily avoided.
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Did you run a quake server in 1998/2000? (2 comments)
Posted by angry-bob @ 06:25 CST, 7 November 2016 - iMsg
Hi
I'm hoping to find some old demon's of my clan [BoB] ( Bastard operator Brothers ) mostly hanging of master.scorn.org . Is there any body who has kept there game demo's from way back when?
I'm interested in public game servers in the UK. If i had the time id love to make the way back machine oldie quake players if i can find a shed load of demo's but i suspect they have been lost in time.
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Why ESRs Should Play Titanfall 2 (44 comments)
Posted by Terbo @ 02:35 CST, 7 November 2016 - iMsg
1. Bunny Hopping - It works very much like the QuakeWorld bunny hopping. You just need to use the slide mechanic + QW bunny hopping.
2. Hand Grenades - One mechanic that was really great about Quake 2, but was left out of Quake 3, was hand grenades.... Titanfall 2 has them working in all their glory.
3. Double Jumps - Very much in the vain of Unreal Tournament.
4. Rocket Launchers - It actually has rocket and grenade launchers + Star Wars sound effects.
5. Duel - There is a duel mode very similar to that found in CPMA duel arena. Two players with basically a rocket launcher, rail gun and hand grenades match up in a circular arena.
6. Grapple Hook - I remember playing (on Heat.net) Rocket Arena 2 with just Railgun, Hand Grenades and Grapple Hook... it was a blast.
7. Titans - well and there's titans...

P.S. I don't care if you play it or not. Just appreciating the old school aspects of the game.
Edited by Terbo at 02:43 CST, 12 November 2016 - 2295 Hits
BETHESDA SHUTTING DOWN QUAKE DIALOG (21 comments)
Posted by ika @ 02:16 CST, 7 November 2016 - iMsg
Tried to make a few posts on bethesda.net "quake champions" forums; and then all my my posts got deleted? (what could bethesda be hiding?) Posted below is messages with the bethesda ((((MODS)))) about why my quake revelations could not be witnessed by other people on quake champions forums :(

SECRET chat logs of the mods trying to cover it up: (bethesda's secrets)

Sonderer 5 days ago
ika_quake,
This message is to let you know that we have removed a couple of your posts from the forums as well as a recent thread. The thread was removed as spam and due to inappropriate commentary. Likewise, your posts were removed as trolling/harassment on another thread.
So you are made aware disruptive posting like this is against our forum rules and repeat posts like this can lead to a suspension or ban from the forums. We suggest you review our forum rules before making further posts.
Thanks, Moderator Sonderer
https://beta-community.bethesda.net/topic/400...nity-rules
(This message is a formal warning for this account.)
ika_quake 3 days ago
Can you explain which comments made in my thread were inappropriate? I dont understand ( I Didnt use any swear words)
only one of my comments had a swear word? but it was [censored] so ??
why was my post on the quake IDEA GUY thread removed ? It was a deconstruction of the EGO of the original poster (constructive)
I didnt even harrass anyone either ? what comment was harrasing someone?
Sonderer about 14 hours ago
From our forum rules:
Trolling or Baiting: The act of trolling is defined as something that is created for the intent to provoke conflict, shock others, or to elicit a strong negative or emotional reaction. It is okay and very normal to disagree with others, and even to debate, but provoking conflict, baiting, inciting, mocking, etc. is never acceptable in the official Bethesda.Net forums. If you do not have something constructive or meaningful to add to a discussion, we strongly recommend you refrain from posting in that thread, and find another discussion to participate in instead. [...] This includes:
• Posting the same message more than once
• Posting messages that are nonsensical or have no real content
• Posting messages or images large enough to disrupt the normal flow of conversation
• Reposting material that has been removed by a member of the Bethesda.Net Team.
• Also, please refrain from posting the same topic in multiple areas of the forum, or cross-posting in an attempt to gain further views or replies. This is considered spamming, and the duplicate threads will be removed.
The commentary was felt to be inappropriate because it contributed nothing to the proposed question other than to make a criticism and mockery of his question. This “baited” rude commentary from him which you followed up with the following:
maybe noob dont know an ART when you see it ? duel me on CP (Cool guy) Cool guy twenty-two […] maybe take one to know one ? but not anymore after I saw ur post ;] [censored]. […] I bet u didnt because you are a aNOOB. Ask anyone on IRC who is the best of quake who do you think they wil l tell you to? (yours truly) Etc.
This clearly meant to further provoke an argument that, again, has nothing to do with the thread and is only meant to harass this user. “Deconstructing an ego” is not for users to do. We ask that you report a player if you feel they are abrasive.
There were also still words that you masked to ‘dodge’ our filters that should not have been altered. These were ‘inappropriate’:
IE ejackulated from the womb of an emptyness
In line with these examples of your posts, you will also note in the above rules that we do not allow trolling via “posting messages that are nonsensical or have no real content”. Because of the way your video and all of your posts have been formatted they are hard to approach and pose little for users to engage by being mostly nonsensical. While there was some vague meaning to quake 700 words of abstract thought with very little structure can be seen less as a post and more like as poetic spam. Whether it’s your intention or not, it seems like you are posting simply to provoke response. This is disruptive and we do not allow for posts like this.
We hope this clarifies the choice of wording for your warning and why you were addressed. Again, we suggest you review the forum rules before making further posts. (https://beta-community.bethesda.net/topic/400...nity-rules) Following this PM we have removed your additional post:
such a LAMER your last thread was banned haha me too cool buddies
is this ban appeal?
This falls in accordance to this discussion, but should also be mentioned that we do not allow for discussion of moderation. As we have reached out to you about this twice to review our rules, this is a final warning. We will take action to ban your account for repeat actions like this.
-Thank you, Moderator Sonderer

Context: the thread that was deleted: http://archive.is/PDRJM

TLDR: Clearly bethesda.net is not a place to talk about quake openly--- stick to ESR any day of the week :> Dont beleive the hype!

t. ika
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The japanese difference (5 comments)
Posted by gojira_ @ 23:34 CST, 6 November 2016 - iMsg
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cake day (27 comments)
Posted by PredatH0r @ 19:08 CST, 6 November 2016 - iMsg
qlstats is now 1 year old and player profiles will show a cake symbol on the anniversary of their first recorded match.

A few stats about the stats:
156 thousand players (unique steam-ids)
1.46 million matches
10.46 million players in matches
146.43 million player-match-weapon stats
26 GB postgresql database
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<< Comment #1 @ 18:09 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
Why is makaveli in that poll?

since hes already back in quake :)
<< Comment #5 @ 18:23 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #1
Some of the other players are also playing QL at the moment, such as cha0ticz I believe, however, it is nowhere near the competitive scene and as such a comeback could be in order. If Makaveli has made a comeback to the competitive scene and I missed it then he should be removed though :)
Edited by Paladia at 19:17 CDT, 22 October 2009
<< Comment #6 @ 18:27 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Quake mbc  - Reply to #5
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1772113 though not quite there yet :)
Edited by rift at 23:18 CDT, 22 October 2009
<< Comment #8 @ 18:41 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Czech Republic LukKe  - Reply to #6
you can hardly call that a "comeback to the competitive scene"
<< Comment #250 @ 01:24 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
By stermy bubble_ru  - Reply to #8
He is comeback, like Immortal was comeback for Quake IV lol.
<< Comment #117 @ 11:17 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #6
There's also the russian makaveli, don't know which one the poll is refering too. But the russian makaveli was really good.
-Edit- Looks like he is active again , and still pretty decent looking at his matches -> Rush3Dmakaveli
Edited by Linchpin at 11:23 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #120 @ 11:43 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #117
He's never not been active.
<< Comment #122 @ 12:11 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #120
good to know :)
<< Comment #173 @ 19:12 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr  - Reply to #117
he is not good because even i win him
<< Comment #317 @ 11:47 CDT, 29 September 2010 >>
By USSR Lowbird  - Reply to #117
yeah hes average or maybe above with game time
<< Comment #2 @ 18:10 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Czech Republic LukKe 
way2ez4czm!
btw "uNkind" :p
<< Comment #3 @ 18:10 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By United States of America char 
czm or unkind

speaking of zero4 comeback:

http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/summary/ZeRo4
<< Comment #4 @ 18:21 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By terran timmah 
Who is elpajuo? Never heard of that guy
<< Comment #9 @ 19:03 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Aragón tzz  - Reply to #4
Best CPM player in the US a few years ago, he played in the CXG and did really good (he had to play cooller in the WB finals but the even was shut down iirc) then disappeared a few years later and his family came here searching for help.
<< Comment #12 @ 19:34 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #9
Lost to cooller in the WB Semi final 2-1 (Won pro-q3dm6 if I recall correctly). Cooller then beat ZeRo4 in the WB Final 2-1 but the event was shut-down before the LB final between ZeRo4 and elp could be played (I think).

I think he was at QLAN2 as well.
Edited by iNkind at 19:34 CDT, 22 October 2009
<< Comment #13 @ 19:59 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #12
the event was shut-down before the LB final between ZeRo4 and elp could be played (I think).
They started playing T4 and when the score was 8-8 between them as network died for good. The organizers didn't care anymore at that point but the players wanted to proceed, regardless of the cash (which was never payed out in the end). So they connected Zero4s computer directly to elpajuo, however, the organizers then proceeded to shut down all power as well, so there wasn't much for them to do.

Hence all three, cooller, z4 and elpajuo are considered tied as #1 for that event.
Edited by Paladia at 19:59 CDT, 22 October 2009
<< Comment #14 @ 20:09 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #13
They agreed to be 1>2>3 qlr>z4>elp.
<< Comment #15 @ 20:38 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #14
That's not how I remember it, I'm quite sure they all considered themselves as tied #1 and decided to split all money and hardware.

Why would z4 be ahead of elpajuo when they only played one map which ended 8-8?
<< Comment #27 @ 04:34 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #15
WB Final.
<< Comment #33 @ 06:23 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #27
The final was to be between cooller and the winner of z4/elp (which was never finished). So how was z4 ranked ahead of elp? Regardless, you are mistaken, the official (and inofficial) results were as follows:

Duel Results:
1 - tied. Anton 'cooller' Singov (Moscow, Russia)
1 - tied. Alejandro 've-elpajuo' Gonzales (Venezuela)
1 - tied. John 'ZeRo4' Hill (San Diego, California)
4. Sean 'Daler' Price (Austin, Texas)
5 - tied. Paul 'czm' Nelson (Massachussetts)
5 - tied. Jared 'cha0tics' Cugno (Boston, Massachussets)
<< Comment #34 @ 06:25 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #33
Because z4 was in the winner bracket final and elp was in the semi.

I recall them agreeing to share the money (whether it got paid or not) split 1. qlr 2. z4 3. elp.

But anyway, it doesn't really matter and there's next to no accurate coverage of cXg anywhere and the ESR search function is beyond hopeless.
Edited by iNkind at 06:27 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #38 @ 11:55 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #34
No z4 and elp had already started playing their match when the servers were shut down.
<< Comment #40 @ 12:08 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #38
I realise that, but the match wasn't finished and like you said it was a tie.
<< Comment #97 @ 04:23 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #42 @ 12:20 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #33
due to serious major tournament shortage, he has a physical need to count cxg as something cooller won, don't take it away from him :D
<< Comment #26 @ 04:11 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Aragón tzz  - Reply to #12
Ah, yes, that sounds about right.
<< Comment #257 @ 01:53 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #12
I think he finished second at Qlan2 (cpm tournament).
Rat won, elpa 2nd, toxter third and snapcase fourth I think.

He played in the vq3 tournament also, but didn't do as well compared to the cpm one :)
<< Comment #289 @ 12:32 CST, 15 November 2009 >>
rat played in the vq3 tournament as well. If I remember correctly he didn't lose cpm1a to anyone.
<< Comment #290 @ 15:50 CST, 15 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #289
I think that's correct. He was quite lucky that cpm1a got picked for the vq3 tournament :D
<< Comment #20 @ 00:53 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Frags medal crv  - Reply to #4
one of the best dm6 player
<< Comment #54 @ 13:35 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #20
please cut off those retro stats!
<< Comment #55 @ 13:38 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By badys tshirt Badb0y  - Reply to #4
elpa had a really unique AGRESSIVE style, nice to watch.
<< Comment #104 @ 09:22 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #55
RJ binds :DD
<< Comment #143 @ 03:49 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #55
Whenever I watched him move around, especially on DM6, he would do some things that seemed completely crazy or doomed to failure. They always seemed to pay off, though.

One time he did the standard bridge to rail and it seemed obvious he was going to miss. He managed to air-control himself over farther than seemed possible like it was nothing. Also he would regularly dive down onto players where it would seem they would shaft him to death before he hit ground but it never seemed to cause him any trouble.
<< Comment #297 @ 10:07 CST, 21 November 2009 >>
By Netherlands Terifire  - Reply to #143
One time he did the standard bridge to rail and it seemed obvious he was going to miss. He managed to air-control himself over farther than seemed possible like it was nothing.

Want to see this:D
<< Comment #318 @ 08:00 CDT, 30 September 2010 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #297
He did a lot of that stuff from what I saw, some of the most enteraining movement ever for sure! he is missed ;<
<< Comment #99 @ 04:33 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Unset gnarf  - Reply to #4
d:D
<< Comment #174 @ 19:13 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr  - Reply to #99
:D
<< Comment #105 @ 09:23 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #4
only south american quaker to "make it big" afaik. Loved watching him play though.
<< Comment #167 @ 15:10 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Greece MaJunior  - Reply to #105
you forget reef, the Fatal1ty killer :D
<< Comment #194 @ 13:41 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Sweden phaces  - Reply to #4
...alias elputo...he´s gg :)
<< Comment #7 @ 18:37 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By United States of America erok 
would like to see how fatal1ty would fair
<< Comment #10 @ 19:09 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Poland mefajpE^ 
czm - smarter choice. great personality, amazing player.
<< Comment #11 @ 19:32 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini 
<uNkind>
<< Comment #16 @ 20:39 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz 
For me, unkind would be most fun to watch in qlive with his rockets.

But the hype for fat, czm or tox matches would make for fun spectacting too.
<< Comment #17 @ 21:18 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands QuiXilver 
Zero4!
<< Comment #18 @ 22:22 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By wc3_undead mammon 
Sujoy but that won't happen.
xext toxjq, not likely but he would be a top contender if he had the time to put in
third probably Fatality or czm, the mappool suits american playstyle at the moment with t9 and t7
<< Comment #19 @ 00:35 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_ 
I voted for PELE cus I remember watching his old demos and being in awe about his interesting style. Most people probably don't remember him. He played a lot like unkind, just years before unkind was in the scene. Really smart and killer rox.

I don't think there is enough $ out there to motivate most of these people back. When you get older and have more responsibilities, it is impossible to put in the time required to be a top tier quake player. You have to choose to either dedicate your time to a game that nobody follows or do something real with your life.
Edited by JayDee_ at 00:40 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #300 @ 12:57 CST, 29 November 2009 >>
By SpawnRaped anal justice  - Reply to #19
this guy had the most unusual binds and I am not talking about smileys and such :)
<< Comment #21 @ 00:53 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Frags medal crv 
Unkind
<< Comment #22 @ 01:26 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks 
Sujoy. To this site \o/
<< Comment #23 @ 01:27 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
PELE was really good n1 for 2 years in rus... top 5 of that list imho zero4 unkind pele fatality lexer or lakerman
<< Comment #59 @ 14:06 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By heart rockz  - Reply to #23
no czm? shame on u
<< Comment #24 @ 01:37 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
daler chaoticz socrates makaveli blokey - why we need to see their comaback if we have rapha now =)... polos blue stelam were really interesting players but not really top imho... 9.sujoy 9.doomer(doomer 34 years old now) not sure that they can to play realy good nowdays.. and about thresh - it would be absolutly fantastic if we will see his comaback but so interesting... but of course i wanne see totally comaback of all players in that list =)
<< Comment #85 @ 23:26 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By ezQuake f0cus  - Reply to #24
Holy hell it's Alchemist03.

DUDE. Stop learning english, it's ruining the fun :(
<< Comment #197 @ 05:33 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By eldvakt LoCK  - Reply to #85
I WANT TO SEE TOTALLY COMABACK!
<< Comment #25 @ 02:41 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By zerg vedic 
I miss czm's cheesy antics. =(
<< Comment #28 @ 04:41 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke 
czm
<< Comment #29 @ 04:41 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany cYmoZz 
fatality + toxic
<< Comment #267 @ 05:05 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
By US-California Venim  - Reply to #29
exactly what i'd like to see
<< Comment #30 @ 05:05 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Finland duumed 
there are so many great players i'd like to come back since i wasn't following q3 in the first few years and didn't get to see them in action.

voted for czm
<< Comment #31 @ 05:52 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone 
Fatal1ty will add legitimacy and glamour to tournaments. He will probably bring more sponsorship to Quakelive just by competing.
<< Comment #32 @ 06:07 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden ArchaiK 
toxjq wihout a doubt. tox and fox 2v2 would make be spray things all over the screen.
<< Comment #35 @ 06:32 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Poland tifu 
it's really hard to pick only one, so i went with toxjq as i think he could come back and really compete. i'm not so sure about rest of those guys - they got old :P, moved on or just might not have time...
<< Comment #36 @ 07:52 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia ambro 
thresh comeback with a ferrari on quakecon :)
<< Comment #45 @ 12:29 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cx  - Reply to #36
he sold it afaik
<< Comment #175 @ 09:32 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By dollar zoinks  - Reply to #45
Did Carmack buy it back? :D
<< Comment #37 @ 10:58 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Finland Tzeentch 
LeXeR!

\o/
<< Comment #39 @ 12:03 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
I picked fat because you know he's gonna actually practice unlike the rest of these lazy bums
<< Comment #46 @ 12:33 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By terran timmah  - Reply to #39
Most of them practice, they all just tell different degrees of lies about the time.

But I guess time put in is not the only factor that will decide level of play.
Edited by timmah at 12:38 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #91 @ 02:33 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By wc3_human DamianLillard  - Reply to #46
Yeah that's what I meant, that all of them would stop playing completely between official tournaments! a gift for you

http://www.tynansanger.com/uploaded_images/sa...710628.jpg

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Edited by Vernon Schillinger at 02:34 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #41 @ 12:12 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Italy exp! 
crazyman e toxjq
<< Comment #43 @ 12:22 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe 
ain't gonna vote zero4 cause he probably has no motivation whatsoever to play again.


but i vote fatal1ty, cause fat returning to play would promote ql more than anything.


+ czm, ql fits his style
Edited by Lethe at 12:28 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #47 @ 12:46 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #43
Suits uNkind more!
<< Comment #48 @ 12:51 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #47
unkind is so...2002 =(
<< Comment #49 @ 12:53 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #48
Can't believe z4 only has one vote.
<< Comment #51 @ 13:16 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #49
probably everyone watched his latest demo :D
<< Comment #88 @ 01:42 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz  - Reply to #49
Only cause they got to see him play last year - so not much of a comeback
<< Comment #44 @ 12:29 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cx 
fatal1ty + thresh,

thresh will never come back though,
and fat will only come if there is some more money.
<< Comment #50 @ 12:59 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Six16 
I picked Fatality because id like to see how good he is now compared to the likes of rapha etc..

but id also like to see Lexer, stelam, blue and Lakerman come back..

Also, list needs Stelam adding :)
Edited by d3c4y at 12:59 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #52 @ 13:31 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #50
er?
<< Comment #64 @ 15:40 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Six16  - Reply to #52
er, well i was thinking it was a ninja edit, but seems its not, i didnt see :)
<< Comment #53 @ 13:32 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd 
slinger, kane, american makaveli, menendez, if22, pele,unholy (anyone remembers him?! :-D ) gogogo :p

i'd like to see fat and stelam if ive to choose tho,,,
Edited by lizahd at 13:33 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #60 @ 14:07 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By heart rockz  - Reply to #53
what do u enjoy on if22?
<< Comment #62 @ 14:51 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #60
in his early days, like until cpl holland he wasnt +back at all :P
<< Comment #66 @ 16:08 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Weird  - Reply to #62
wow someone who remembers if-22 not being +back.....
you might have a really good memory... or a really bad one. (I for one don't remember who played how before cpl holland Oo)
<< Comment #89 @ 01:44 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz  - Reply to #53
Imagine the joy of watching if22 +back t9 to defend a 1 frag lead :)
<< Comment #320 @ 05:56 CDT, 14 April 2011 >>
By CSS Furball  - Reply to #53
i'd rather see Dta back than if-22 =)

Phear the HPB Rail biatch! (unholy) =]
<< Comment #56 @ 13:39 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Weird 
pfffffff, this should be allowed to vote on multiple persons....
Most of them would be really nice...

But I'm so torn between players I admired :(
voted for DOOMer though cuz he was the least voted for on the list of those ppl... and someone above wrote that makaveli is already back ;)
<< Comment #57 @ 13:44 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #56
i claim most of the list startet ql at least once :PPP
<< Comment #58 @ 13:44 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By djogedj h8m3 
LeXeR!
<< Comment #61 @ 14:30 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip 
wanna see unkind & lexer back
<< Comment #63 @ 15:31 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By United States of America paulrrrr 
czm all the way.
<< Comment #84 @ 23:18 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Canada efassd  - Reply to #63
Hi czm.
<< Comment #65 @ 16:01 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Thorin 
It actually blows my mind that Blue has 3% and unkind 16%. Fuck is wrong with you people?
<< Comment #67 @ 16:25 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Austria noctis  - Reply to #65
rather see unkind play since i've already seen enough of blue in ql :p
<< Comment #68 @ 16:25 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #65
GTFO
<< Comment #150 @ 10:49 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #65
I slightly agree. Blue was really amazing in his prime q3 days, but his q4 days were not REALLY amazing. It was still nice to see him of course, but he couldn't threat the top players. I know he plays some QL, but just for fun I assume...
<< Comment #69 @ 17:01 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Swedish Shaft Torzelan 
Fatal1ty for QL's sake, Toxic for my sake <3
<< Comment #70 @ 17:56 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
Lakerman, babe, Lakerman
!

[ed] the list is kinda ridiculous, because many guys here did not retire for good -for example fatality, it is a well know fact the moment there will be big money prizes mister Anderson will be back, toxjq also played last year, and you miss him already?
Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 18:01 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #76 @ 19:22 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #70
Well, they retired from the competitive Quake scene (which they all were a part of earlier) and thus could come back to it again.
Edited by Paladia at 19:23 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #82 @ 21:49 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #76
I would not call a year or two of inactivity, retirement. Even if it is technically retirement, as long as we've seen them not too much time ago, it's not enough to call it in a joy, the great return of the dark knight.
To be more specific, my daughter went down from our bed in the morning, and in the evening she was climbing it again, fully enthusiastic, I would not call what she was doing today, a truly retirement.
Same love story.
<< Comment #71 @ 18:21 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex 
Impossible to make a decision. I want czm, Thresh, LakermaN and toxic back. Z4muZ is missing, and I want All*Nirvana to play a lot and show his skill internationally for real.
<< Comment #72 @ 18:23 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #71
Ali Naab is missing too
<< Comment #73 @ 18:32 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #72
Never heard of him.. :P
<< Comment #74 @ 18:38 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #73
=(
unpossible
<< Comment #75 @ 19:20 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #71
Z4muZ isn't missing as he's already doing a comeback. He's playing for excello, participated in the QL Quick Cup and has signed up for Dreamhack.
Edited by Paladia at 19:20 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #77 @ 19:29 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #75
Yeah, I was told after I wrote it :) I'm not really paying attention these days. His stats on QL seems good, hope he attends a big tourney soon.
<< Comment #78 @ 19:32 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #77
Didn't you read the Dreamhack part? :) It's the second biggest QL tournament if you count how many good players that are participating. Unfortunately I don't think he has enough time to prepare properly for it but will be great to see him in action again.
<< Comment #79 @ 20:06 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #78
Hm, no I didn't. When is Dreamhack? It would be nice to go there and photograph for ESR :)

Edit: I found it, starts on my birthday, if I read it right, 26th of November. It will be fun to watch :)

Edit 2: I'm checking traveling costs to see if I can do it, it would have been awesome :D Specially since in 2002 or 2003 I ended up not being able to go to QLAN :)
Edited by netrex at 20:21 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #258 @ 02:06 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #79
come! :D
I'll fix you up with a press-pass if you can make it!
<< Comment #80 @ 21:02 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Uruguay gSTRUCTOR 
Easy one, fat ofc, it would be "HUGE"(c)2GD for QL.
<< Comment #81 @ 21:13 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By USSR s3cco 
rat
<< Comment #83 @ 21:50 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #81
damn rats, always scattering in the shadows, making me jumpy!...
<< Comment #86 @ 23:36 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany butchji 
toxjq and SteLam :)
<< Comment #87 @ 01:39 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
Fatality is the one who could most realistically make a comeback and be a force in tournaments. Video games are supposed to be his full time job, right?
<< Comment #94 @ 03:07 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #87
and not for those for those other pro gamers who play 6-8 hours easily a day?
Edited by confusion at 03:07 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #126 @ 14:03 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
For $3000 every 6 months? lol.
<< Comment #90 @ 02:11 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Latvia fuzz 
czm and socrates
<< Comment #92 @ 02:48 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden azmo 
Shub of course ;)
<< Comment #130 @ 15:31 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Fejl(Folklore)  - Reply to #92
That would be really cool:P
<< Comment #93 @ 03:03 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By ^__^ bl4ze 
wombat
<< Comment #95 @ 03:13 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
crezyman for hub
ZeRo4 for t4
<< Comment #96 @ 03:14 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
lexer, unkind, pele, socrates :(
<< Comment #98 @ 04:31 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
Someone else: 0.6% (1)3)

-Forever
-iF-22

Dutch glory!
<< Comment #100 @ 08:43 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #98
I'm pretty sure forever is still playing =). Or do you mean as a dueller?
<< Comment #115 @ 10:51 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #100
Yeah I meant if he would make a comeback in the 'programing scene'.
<< Comment #202 @ 14:02 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By ql loveless  - Reply to #115
i wanna see some more chairs thrown
COME BACK FOREVER!
<< Comment #101 @ 08:44 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius 
stelam and whole sk back for tdm =)
<< Comment #102 @ 09:10 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #101
dont you prefer unmatched?
<< Comment #119 @ 11:25 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #102
well, no, since kane is my favorite player and he needs to be in it! =). (so that's stelam, kane, zyz, neok)
<< Comment #121 @ 11:44 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #119
Slinger not neok! (Not to bash neok of course)
<< Comment #124 @ 13:05 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #121
nah! I always felt slinger was the 'weakest link' in the unmatched days.
<< Comment #146 @ 08:54 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop?  - Reply to #124
now that's odd. i suggest to watch some of the old demos which clearly show that sl1nger was one of (if not THE) the key players in unmatched's (or SK's) success. i always felt that neok was the "weakest" individual player in that team. all in all those guys were awesome together and seeing them again would be a pleasure. especially from a german perspective since we pretty much only have k1llsen nowadays.
Edited by Loop? at 08:57 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #149 @ 10:40 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #146
hmm, and it seems SK was mostly kane, stelam, slinger & para anyways, so I'd pick that team then.
I always thought slinger had often the worst NET/the most deaths. Gonna check some demos for sure! The good ol' days damned, I want them back ='(
<< Comment #153 @ 11:45 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #149
Kane was their "star" player, every time I've faced them he was always way ahead of the others. Even the maps they lost he was usually ahead of most of our players :)
<< Comment #181 @ 19:45 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop?  - Reply to #149
probably slinger was too busy yelling at his teammates for getting fragged on these occasions :D anyway, would be awesome to see some high profile tdm back, fully agree.
<< Comment #196 @ 05:07 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Germany torfteufel  - Reply to #146
if you still have demos showing u or sk play tdm, esp. stelam pov ofcourse :DD
PLS UP THEM TO THE AGP WEBPAGE !!
vote for stelam btw :]
<< Comment #162 @ 13:43 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany butchji  - Reply to #119
Kane is a professional football player nowadays. :)
He plays in the 2nd League in Germany.
<< Comment #164 @ 14:49 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #162
so he transformed his quake dodging and hitting skills into football :)
<< Comment #171 @ 18:26 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #162
yes I know, and he seems to be in the team quite a lot too.

http://www.rwo-online.de/saison/rwo/kader.php?show=574
<< Comment #103 @ 09:11 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By 011 nemecel 
Is uNkind alive?
<< Comment #106 @ 09:38 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo Liam 
voted for unborn
<< Comment #107 @ 10:03 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #112 @ 10:27 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #107
I don't really use that account (that was my 1st and only game) as I like to play in peace/quiet and have a good time. That's what happens when you get old... you like quiet, haha! Especially sometimes when I come home in the evening after a few drinks...

I could always play Counter-strike when I had some liquor, but quake, oh boy... all over the place with some alcohol, haha.

I need to get rid of this monitor though... 25 ms response time and only 72 Hz LCD.... hehe -- I don't know how much it is gimping me, but from what I've been told, it is pretty bad.

I am trying to get Unholy, immortal, and some of my other friends to start playing again though.
Edited by K9-makaveli at 10:38 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #118 @ 11:22 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #112
your russian nemesis is still active :D, see link.
Rush3Dmakaveli
Edited by Linchpin at 15:01 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #136 @ 17:49 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #112
Hell yeah, you should try and form a tdm clan, atleast that you can still play for laughs without it taking too much time. Although I've heard tdm isn't big in the US atm :(
<< Comment #137 @ 19:42 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By 005 poindexter  - Reply to #136
Get the rest of Deathrow out of the rest home and back in ql...
<< Comment #108 @ 10:14 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #109 @ 10:16 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
No immortal on the list? ='-(
<< Comment #110 @ 10:21 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #109
He made a comeback in Q4 and didn't do all that great, not terrible by any means but not really that impressive.
<< Comment #111 @ 10:25 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #110
That's because I wasn't practicing with him!!! =) hehe
<< Comment #113 @ 10:48 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #111
woow you're back nice. always enjoyed watching your demos.
still play with that high sense?
<< Comment #116 @ 10:58 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #113
I think I'm just twitchy.. not really the sensitivity.
<< Comment #123 @ 12:17 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #116
move unholy here asap!!! :)
<< Comment #125 @ 13:07 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By pirate mkeiy  - Reply to #109
lol that guy was a fucking drop kick
<< Comment #201 @ 12:06 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #109
An immy comeback would be cool. I always thought his style was unique and strange. He had slow clumsy movement, but could out aim everybody by a great margin. He would hit crazy rails in ql.
<< Comment #230 @ 10:16 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #232 @ 10:38 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #230
Nope
<< Comment #114 @ 10:51 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
1. Fatality or Toxic
<< Comment #127 @ 14:29 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cx 
From Wikipedia (last sentence in the article about fat):
Has recently become a Full Tilt Poker Pro using his tag.

It seems 90 % of the progamers become pokerplayers after their gaming career.
<< Comment #128 @ 14:36 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #127
No education, no skills.

Poker awaits...
<< Comment #148 @ 10:38 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #128
I told him to go to college and not rely on the gaming stuff...

Hope he listened to me.
<< Comment #165 @ 14:50 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #148
Fatal1ty made a lot of money with gaming and he is now a business man who promotes his own products. Why should he go to college?
<< Comment #169 @ 17:35 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #165
Because he had to sell out and still has a quite unreliable job, it's nothing to raise a family or buy a house with, nothing in pro gaming is imo.
<< Comment #195 @ 15:57 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #169
This......
<< Comment #207 @ 20:17 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Vo0  - Reply to #169
But...but...he's a millionaire.
<< Comment #214 @ 10:07 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #207
:D You want your own smug face on those motherboards?
<< Comment #268 @ 05:10 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
By US-California Venim  - Reply to #207
you should be on this list too btw
<< Comment #303 @ 08:15 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #169
its not unreliable. this comment is true ignorance. Are you his tax accountant? You actually know his income?

He's made. And i don't even agree with how he did it either.
Edited by Cloud at 08:22 CST, 8 March 2010
<< Comment #302 @ 08:13 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #128
poker doesn't take any skill?



How much money would you like to play for?
<< Comment #306 @ 08:42 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #302
Yeah, you got me, that was what I was saying.
<< Comment #308 @ 10:35 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #306
oh

now i see what u did there..
<< Comment #129 @ 14:41 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek 
would love to see Fatal1ty in action

but... he loses in FFA shootouts :(

http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/matches/fatal1ty/20695878/DM
<< Comment #133 @ 17:47 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #129
Haha, it is really hard to win every FFA.
<< Comment #135 @ 17:48 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek  - Reply to #133
:p
<< Comment #157 @ 12:27 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #159 @ 12:41 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek  - Reply to #157
yeah at some point in one of those 2v4 matches the score was, if i remember correctly, 197:0 ;-)

still beating him in ffa was a nice experience :p
<< Comment #131 @ 17:12 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
LakermaN!!!!
<< Comment #134 @ 17:47 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #131
Lakerman would be awesome, but he probably need too much time to get back into it. His old "esp" used to give me orgasms.
<< Comment #132 @ 17:47 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By 2k2_2 Nukm 
tox and fat
<< Comment #139 @ 20:17 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America Hito 
Impossible to choose one, ive always liked Pele and Lakermans style. Would love to see Lexer, Czm and Fat back too though...

I think any match between rapha, cooller, fat and czm in their prime would just be amazing.
<< Comment #138 @ 20:10 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Portugal stuntz 
Polos is rulez :D
<< Comment #140 @ 20:32 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By USSR EKSelenc 
uNkind or toxjq.
<< Comment #142 @ 03:45 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
immortal (usa), Shub-niGGa (nor) and Scion (nor).
Are true legends for me.
/[pig]Parish
<< Comment #141 @ 02:16 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpma Adel 
toxjq
<< Comment #144 @ 04:33 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Denmark amOKchen 
I've always been a lakerman fan, so heres my top5 :p

1. LakermaN
2. toxic
3. unkind
4. daler
5. elpajuo (this guy was amazing not much footage on him though)
<< Comment #145 @ 05:35 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By rpnew telly 
Pietro
<< Comment #147 @ 08:59 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop? 
lexer,stelam,sl1nger,zyz,kane, czm,fatal1ty, in no specific order.

+ cooller being as successful as he used to be ;)
Edited by Loop? at 09:00 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #151 @ 11:06 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Denmark Vium 
k3no og hazzi aka gur piuv
<< Comment #152 @ 11:15 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS 
- ElkY
- Grrr..
- rat
<< Comment #154 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #152
Major Poll: QL

"Quake live has brought quite a few players back to the scene. Which comeback to the Quake competitive scene would you rather see (as a player)?"

:(
Edited by Paladia at 11:46 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #155 @ 11:52 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS  - Reply to #154
WHICH COMEBACK WOULD YOU RATHER SEE?
<list of persons and some random blabla i didn't care about>
<< Comment #156 @ 11:53 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS  - Reply to #155
also any of my list rather than any of yours :p
<< Comment #158 @ 12:28 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #155
Well, you should at least check which category its in :)

However, you can do a SC one sometime later. Though most SC players have already made a comeback. :)
Edited by Paladia at 12:28 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #160 @ 13:03 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By US-Pennsylvania judge717 
czm easy
<< Comment #161 @ 13:27 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By stermy bubble_ru 
Best fail :

"A Legend return", quake IV, Immortal.
Videos etc ...

A Legend Returns
Once, long ago, a legend trod the earth, fragging opponents with ease and reigning as a good and wise champion.

Until, one day, he vanished into the mists of time.

On Tuesday, he returns.....and GGL.com will cover every step of his exciting comeback
<< Comment #163 @ 14:20 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Done linoleuM 
rat or czm
Edited by linoleuM at 14:20 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #166 @ 14:51 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
lakerman vs z4 on t4... interesting.
<< Comment #168 @ 17:31 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 stunt.us 
imagine stx-kash playing QL. I mean osp was super easy for him. I want to see the kash come back!
<< Comment #170 @ 17:42 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke  - Reply to #168
kash=rapha
<< Comment #172 @ 18:53 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 stunt.us  - Reply to #170
no wai! kash was known for having aim of GODS with lg and railgun. rapha just runs and spams rl.
<< Comment #176 @ 09:45 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Finland duumed  - Reply to #172
rapha just walks and spams rl.

there, i fixed it for you
<< Comment #179 @ 13:48 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 stunt.us  - Reply to #176
hahah true ;D
<< Comment #247 @ 18:32 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By nihil madbringer  - Reply to #168
You know, i hate you. But i have to say, you're one heck of a good troll.
<< Comment #254 @ 19:05 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
By clawo Liam  - Reply to #247
We need another poll to decide imo.

I'm pretty sure I know what the outcome will be though.
<< Comment #304 @ 08:16 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #247
what in the fuck are u talkin about?
<< Comment #305 @ 08:30 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By nihil madbringer  - Reply to #304
Nice reflex, retard. Fuck off back to your cave.
<< Comment #307 @ 08:59 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #305
reflex? what in the Fuck are you talkin about now you stupid fuckin idiot? just shut the fuck up ur fuckin useless and worthless
<< Comment #309 @ 13:35 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By nihil madbringer  - Reply to #307
Shush, kid. I know it's hard to live with a reading disability, don't make yourself look even worse.
<< Comment #177 @ 09:58 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen` 
PELE[PK]
<< Comment #178 @ 10:58 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Quake 3 (black) ddk 
THERAILMCCOY
<< Comment #186 @ 10:23 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By AUSNL by dann zkyp  - Reply to #178
!!!!!
<< Comment #180 @ 15:41 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive JDMYO 
czm of course - he was the SHIT! possibly the best allround Quake3 player of all time - tdm, cpm, 1v1 etc. Who could forget that T4 game he had against Aim (Ambix?) where he hit 3 pixel rails in a row from the bottom level to the top whilst Aim was stacked in sudden death overtime to win the game :) was awesome!
And didn't czm give Cooller his biggest defeat of his carreer on hub :)
<< Comment #184 @ 04:59 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By zerg vedic  - Reply to #180
demo?
<< Comment #185 @ 06:27 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #192 @ 13:24 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen`  - Reply to #180
czm TDM? lol
<< Comment #204 @ 15:56 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By United States of America erok  - Reply to #192
he played for cK when they were the top NA team and actually did well against euro teams
<< Comment #182 @ 23:17 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By US-California per1klez 
i dont understand all the talk for czm.. he tried to come back with EG last year and got pwned. I'd much rather see fatal1ty go for gold.
<< Comment #183 @ 04:46 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #182
czm is a secure ticket, if fatality can adjust to the level quake is played is something else.
Also probably why he is reluctant to jump into it, the level is to high for him :P
<< Comment #233 @ 12:12 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke  - Reply to #182
czm is a likeable character, fatalalalaonetwoty isn't
<< Comment #234 @ 12:36 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By US-California per1klez  - Reply to #233
Fortunately for him, that is an opinion restricted mainly to ESR and few other esports communities. For the other millions of people that have heard of him or seen him play, his persona is far more likable than that of a czm.
<< Comment #262 @ 12:13 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By ezQuake f0cus  - Reply to #234
whoa now. I'm not and have never been a fatal1ty basher. I got along with him just fine the few times I've actually spent a little time with him, but you should give Paul more credit. He's great.
<< Comment #266 @ 03:00 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #262
why are you arguing with periklez as if he had any clue of wha he's taking about?
<< Comment #187 @ 10:35 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip 
keeper should come back too
<< Comment #188 @ 11:37 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck spyteman  - Reply to #187
hah yeah he was solid :D
<< Comment #189 @ 12:05 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #187
keep3r
<< Comment #190 @ 12:15 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip  - Reply to #189
k29.keep3r
keep3r^v4
c58|Keep3r
Edited by deotrip at 12:16 CDT, 27 October 2009
<< Comment #191 @ 12:37 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #190
well done ;)
<< Comment #277 @ 00:01 CST, 7 November 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #187
From what I gather, he's playing CS these days. He was pretty awesome to watch on ztn back when he was in shape (an unfortunately brief time).
<< Comment #193 @ 13:41 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Sweden phaces 
Lexer
<< Comment #314 @ 21:46 CDT, 30 July 2010 >>
By exclamation point CLains  - Reply to #193
yes! it would be the most fun
<< Comment #198 @ 09:57 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM 
my vote stays with zyz
<< Comment #199 @ 10:36 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Poland panadol 
stelam slinger and everyone else
<< Comment #200 @ 11:51 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_ 
Mikes for TDM? Also it would be cool if Dag, Def, or Reppie from qw tried their hands at ql duel.
Edited by JayDee_ at 11:52 CDT, 28 October 2009
<< Comment #205 @ 15:59 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen`  - Reply to #200
Mikes may be will come back!
<< Comment #209 @ 01:09 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #200
Why should they waste time with a shitty, slow, hitscan cs game? Especially +forward Reppie with his 5cm/360 sensitivity. Waste of talent imo.
Edited by terrorhead at 01:10 CDT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #210 @ 04:12 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #209
Because they have been playing the same players and shithouse maps since the creation of the universe. However, I'll agree qw has superior fundamental gameplay and the top players would probably never switch to anything else. I just think it would be nice to see a guy of Reppies insane talents try something different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6REVMQYrK8
<< Comment #211 @ 04:27 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #210
Not sure if I want to see Reppie in QL. Everyone would just own him. He would have to completely change his setup and style of play.

I agree about maps though. dm2 and possibly dm4 should be removed from comps.

Nice vid. I still have that demo :D
Edited by terrorhead at 04:28 CDT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #213 @ 08:37 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #200
I would go as far as saying that players like dag aren't as talented as some of the top players in QL.

When QW was the game, when it had players like DOOMer, Sniket, oKKun, Lakerman, Kane and so on, dag played at that time as well (I don't know if reppie or def played at that time but if they did they were so poor they weren't even known in the slightest then). However, dag, or dagurra as he was known as then, didn't stand a chance against those players, he was even at a lower level of play than me.

When all good players leave from a dead community, some lesser player is bound to take the #1 spot.

That goes for most of those current QW "stars", such as pietro, locktar, riker, xalibur, mrlane and so on. I do not even think they would disagree with me.
<< Comment #216 @ 10:28 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By nihil madbringer  - Reply to #213
Dude, less talented? QW requires a different skillset altogether. Different strats, movement, weapons, it's hard to compare, even. Also, how can you know if the current "stars" of QW wouldn't catch up to the old masters even, if they did stay in the game?

I'd say, if they'd put in time and effort, some of them could become top contenders in QL.
<< Comment #217 @ 11:19 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QW_ Zalon  - Reply to #213
I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense. As much as I respect the oldschool players (They were the top when I started playing), they simply didn't play the same game as the game thats played today. Saying that Dag wasn't as good, because he peaked at a later stage in the games history - Is like saying that LakermaN was only good, because Thresh wasn't around anymore. But even back then the game had changed alot, from when Thresh was king to when LakermaN won TGI. LakermaN was part of the era where aim, speed, and the ability to do tricks became a major factor in the game, whereas the players from the previous era had relied much more on just tactics.

QuakeWorld have had numerous eras, and different kings for each era. Some have stayed on top throughout most of the game's lifespan, players like ParadokS, reppie, dag and griffin. And I'm sure players like that have/had the talent to be good in any game. Just like LakermaN showed, some people can just pick up a game and instantly be good.

Regarding the players you list as current "stars", only LocKtar and riker is around.

But I would agree, that most top qw players probably wouldn't do as good in QL, but thats more of an age/lack of time thing than it is talent. Also they would be lightyears behind the Quake3 players. If Nabbe had not been moved from the "Participating players" to the "Pending Players" list, for the QL tourney at DreamHack winter, we could have seen what a top qw player could do in QL - with limited practice.
<< Comment #221 @ 12:54 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #217
There is nothing suggesting that Thresh was better than Lakerman, DOOMer or Sniket.

Did you watch 9 vs DR? I was there and watched it live and talked to the players. The first time EU and NA actually faced each other in QW/RQ, DR didn't do too well there (they even lost in their games vs IoP, another much less known medium-skilled Swedish team). Of course, while they were here Thresh also played 1v1s, losing games vs Xenon, DOOMer etc.

It's not like these current QW stars werent active at that point. Riker, mrlame, dagurra and so on played quite a bit yet wasn't even considered mediocre players in comparison to the likes of DOOMer or Lakerman.

I even played in the same team as Riker and mrlame, so I do know them as players more than most yet my opinion still holds true, they, just like me, werent as talented as players like Lakerman. It's simply easier to be amongst the best when the community size is 100 compared to 1 000 000, especially if you have a 10 year game advantage on all the new players.
Edited by Paladia at 12:58 CDT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #243 @ 06:08 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By rpnew telly  - Reply to #221
You are ignoring the fact that most of the early star players in Quake were established Doom players. Doomer, Ettu, Lakerman, Thresh etc all played Doom multiplayer and came into Quake already holding a lot of FPS experience. It was no surprise they dominated early on. Just like in Q3 where all the early tournaments were won by veteran Q1 and Q2 players.
Edited by telly at 10:39 CDT, 31 October 2009
<< Comment #301 @ 08:11 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #221
thresh was already deep into playin q2 at the time and had stopped playing q1, not to mention he was an NQ player not a qw player.
<< Comment #218 @ 11:42 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #213
No offence dude, but you have no idea what you are talking about. Dag not being top notch when laker was playing doesn't prove anything. Different players have different motivations at different times. Pietro has been out of the scene for a looooong time. The players who have been at the top of the qw scene in recent years are very very skilled and would destroy laker at his previous form. There is no need to make comments when you clearly don't know anything about the subject.
<< Comment #203 @ 14:13 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Germany - Bayern abso 
zyz
<< Comment #206 @ 19:23 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Eyeballers-Anim 0.2 kaZappeR shay  - Reply to #203
zyz sucks.. so did ewa braun.. ehm
<< Comment #208 @ 01:07 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead 
Fuck them all. I want to see Griffin and dag comeback.
<< Comment #212 @ 04:37 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Plusme ins 
COMEBACK CZM!
<< Comment #220 @ 12:29 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Portugal u3a6  - Reply to #212
CZM is awessome!! But i would like to see a Fatal1ty comeback to shut people's mouth that say he isn't good anymore... But it would be funny if he comebacked and get owned xD
<< Comment #225 @ 04:13 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Plusme ins  - Reply to #220
Fatal1ty will comeback rather sooner than later, and yep he will get owned most likely.
<< Comment #226 @ 06:05 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #225
I disagree.

I think if fatal1ty does decide to come back officially he will make sure that he can hold his own among the top players in practice games before doing it.
And I think we can all agree that he is not the type of players who is worse in tournaments than in his practise games.
<< Comment #228 @ 09:49 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Portugal u3a6  - Reply to #226
i'm oficially impressed. Just checked his stats on ql and he is owning on ffa... He said on an interview @ gamescon that he likes to play a lot of ffa to prepair his aim for a tournament, but he might be playing just for fun, I don't know... And you are right, Fatal1ty isn't stupid that's why he reached his status....
<< Comment #215 @ 10:24 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
the guy who knows whom i voted for gets a beer!
<< Comment #219 @ 12:10 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By nihil madbringer 
Crrrrrrrrrrrrrrazyman!

But honestly, i'd love to see them all come back. The more the merrier. :)

Those and many more, especially people who managed to embed themselves in my memory, like Rocketboy, Kane, Paradoks, Gollum, Python, Matrox, Roos, Death, Arrw, Shub, w3st.. the list goes on.
<< Comment #241 @ 21:37 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #219
kane is currently the captain of "Rot-Weiß Oberhausen" in the 2nd Bundesliga. pretty successfull it seems.

[img1]
Edited by [mash] at 21:37 CDT, 30 October 2009
<< Comment #248 @ 18:42 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By nihil madbringer  - Reply to #241
Haha, no shit? Well good for him. I'd still like to see him make a comeback, the guy was sick.
<< Comment #249 @ 19:29 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #248
yeah, you could see him with his captains badge if some lazy ass admin would approve the pic.

i still remember his demos from LanArena. :D

e:

apparently he's now worth 700k. http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/spieler/8107/b...rofil.html

up 600k since the last time people talked about it.
Edited by [mash] at 19:35 CDT, 31 October 2009
<< Comment #260 @ 03:23 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #249
can't approve pics at the moment.

I blame funnyb!
<< Comment #280 @ 12:00 CST, 8 November 2009 >>
By l0wfly funnyb  - Reply to #260
what the fudge
<< Comment #222 @ 16:27 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By United States of America MUNG>esh 
where's cK 2v2 w/czm + fat option?!?
<< Comment #227 @ 06:06 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #222
cause everyone would vote for foxic?
<< Comment #240 @ 21:32 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #227
i'd vote for cox&fox.
<< Comment #242 @ 02:29 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #240
yes you would
<< Comment #245 @ 08:41 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #242
:D
<< Comment #223 @ 17:24 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By United States of America davis 
czm for sure
<< Comment #224 @ 21:22 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM 
why no zyz in this vote poll? He was q2 superstar in tdm / duels so was he in Q3 tdm and awesome duel player in PK. He was 4th at world champion ship in PK 2005.
<< Comment #229 @ 10:01 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #224
Duel wise I don't think he has placed top3 in any tournament.

Though there are lots of players that you could argue would have a place in such a poll, Kane is the one that comes closest to mine. However, no matter where you draw the line, the will be cases close to the line that can be argued.

You can also vote on the "Someone else" option for such players though.
<< Comment #237 @ 17:10 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM  - Reply to #229
half of those players didnt placed top3 on the list...... and unmatched did placed top3 in many tournaments, won couple of times too... zyz did won pk too at some tournaments..
<< Comment #239 @ 17:45 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #237
Lets see, you claim half of the players didn't place top3 in a duel tournament. I'll just mention one tournament for those I remember. To be fair, I'll only mention lan tournaments.

czm: 24% (79)
#1 QIL4

Fatal1ty: 18% (60)
#1 XSReality Invitational

toxjq: 17% (56)
#1 Dreamhack winter 2005

uNkind: 12% (41)
#1 WCG 2002

LeXeR: 4.8% (16)
#1 QuakeCon 2002

Thresh: 3.6% (12)
#1 Red Annihilation

LakermaN: 3.3% (11)
#1 Lan Arena 4

Stelam: 3.3% (11)
#1 Lan Arena 5

ZeRo4: 1.8% (6)
#1 QuakeCon 2001

Polosatiy: 1.8% (6)
#1 AMD PG Challenge 2003

PELE: 1.8% (6)
#1 RazerCPL Qualifier

Blue: 1.5% (5)
#1 CPL Asia

socrates: 1.5% (5)
#1 WCG USA 2002

DOOMer: 1.5% (5)
#1 Swedish Quake Championships

elpajuo: 1.2% (4)
#1 Cyber X-Games

Makaveli: 0.9% (3)
#2 XSReality Invitational

Sujoy: 0.9% (3)
#3 Ground Zero

cha0ticz: 0.6% (2)
Can't remember any

Blokey: 0.3% (1)
#1 XSReality AMD Cup (this was a duel tournament but not alone though).

Daler: 0.3% (1)
#1 ION Games
As you can see, your claim that "half those players never placed top3 in a duel tournament", was entirely inaccurate. Almost all of them have won at least one LAN tournament.
Edited by Paladia at 09:59 CST, 2 November 2009
<< Comment #261 @ 03:25 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #239
pwnz0red
<< Comment #278 @ 00:03 CST, 7 November 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #239
Wasn't ION Games an online tournament? The one where elpajuo went AFK on tourney4 with a small (1 frag?) lead, and then Daler took the win at the end?
<< Comment #279 @ 07:07 CST, 7 November 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #278
I think you may be right, though he was #1 at AmeriCup and LayeredX as well (and second at Quakecon and WCG USA 2002).
Edited by Paladia at 07:09 CST, 7 November 2009
<< Comment #231 @ 10:24 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By redd0t dot anim Apoc 
Python should be in the list. And the spanish guy who won one of the WCG's, whose name I can't remember.

I would still have voted for PELE [PK], hail!
<< Comment #253 @ 12:52 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
By Austria noctis  - Reply to #231
the spanish guy that got second behind unkind you mean
<< Comment #256 @ 01:49 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By redd0t dot anim Apoc  - Reply to #253
Thats' right, I wondered if a WCG winner could be forgotten.

But Akiles, not heard much of him lately..
<< Comment #235 @ 12:41 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By United States of America cha0ticz 
I'm rocking 2 votes at the moment, one of which was me so I'd like to give a big shout-out to my fan!
<< Comment #238 @ 17:26 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #235
you can click on show votes to see who it was and thank him personally ;)
<< Comment #264 @ 12:55 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Brazil _agu  - Reply to #235
i'd like to see you playing quake4 on galang, vs socrates.. some us tournament which i woudn't forget hahaha was amazing that game
<< Comment #274 @ 05:38 CST, 4 November 2009 >>
By USSR Demiurge  - Reply to #235
You can use a plural now :)
<< Comment #298 @ 02:52 CST, 24 November 2009 >>
By Earth by BooTes StywoO  - Reply to #235
Since you voted for yourself, can we assume your coming back? :)
<< Comment #236 @ 14:53 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By France Co1nCo1n 
SOMBRA ! lol
<< Comment #244 @ 08:02 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Portugal gut 
phyton, prozac and mist
<< Comment #246 @ 09:13 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Copyright by Jazka Jazka 
I voted stelam because i remember him firstly as being a great TDM player. Same for toxjq. And same for prozac. Same for makaveli because he is my first demo watched, a tdm demo on DM6 before the pro version, he was camping at RA and looking up.

And so on, i would like to see all those players come back for some great TDM with a lot of teams fighting to be n°1.
<< Comment #251 @ 03:28 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
The Genie says, "you have three wishes". Aladdin tells the Genie his first wish, "I wish for unlimited wishes.". Robin Williams tells Aladdin, "Well that kind of defeats the purpose of only having three wishes, but what can I do? Rules is rules.".

I always liked CZM, Toxic and Lexer myself. If I had my way, they would all come back.
<< Comment #252 @ 09:44 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
By 2KBlack Yellack 
Z4 with a ball mouse! \o/
<< Comment #255 @ 00:53 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By New Zealand roffo 
CZM for sure. The guy built a fucking railgun
<< Comment #259 @ 02:28 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze 
needs more rat!
anyway voted fat.
<< Comment #263 @ 12:53 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Brazil _agu 
i voted on fatal1ty but i rather like to see fist1 back on track :)
<< Comment #265 @ 15:43 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Dird 
GitzZz
<< Comment #271 @ 17:12 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
Outside of the usual suspects I would like to see (not just from Q3):

Polos, Blokey, Lakerman, Aim, Q50, Slinger & Stelam (surely they're a double team super combo?), Panicore, Prozac, Appleseed, IF22 anyone? and just cos I love him, Timber.
<< Comment #272 @ 05:24 CST, 4 November 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #271
Q50 is playing QL
<< Comment #276 @ 14:03 CST, 5 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #284 @ 09:51 CST, 12 November 2009 >>
By Germany butchji  - Reply to #271
Appleseed is playing QL!
<< Comment #285 @ 13:52 CST, 12 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #270 @ 17:06 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
shub_nigga played some tdm's with cooller, frozen etc.
SPRAY
<< Comment #269 @ 11:59 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
By clawo ini 
Would be cool to see Enemy play again too.
<< Comment #273 @ 05:37 CST, 4 November 2009 >>
By USSR Demiurge 
Probably enjoy seeing LeXeR play by far the most, would be really awesome if he played again.
<< Comment #275 @ 06:22 CST, 4 November 2009 >>
By claw0 pizz 
1. niceguy/Greenbastard
2. pezouille
3. pizzette
<< Comment #281 @ 06:02 CST, 10 November 2009 >>
By Lithuania yo_O 
uNkind, LeXeR, b100.Death, cGu'Nova and many more ;)
<< Comment #282 @ 06:52 CST, 10 November 2009 >>
By Nuke Explosion raithza 
I'd like to see Yuka make another comeback. This time as fatal1ty. imagine the DRAMA!

also, rat.
<< Comment #283 @ 10:52 CST, 10 November 2009 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates 
oldschoolers! :P
<< Comment #286 @ 09:14 CST, 13 November 2009 >>
By New Zealand GrotesK 
Blue to make a comeback with T4~
czm would also be great.
<< Comment #287 @ 16:20 CST, 13 November 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Disrepute 
I would like to see yuka back (as one of the above names)
<< Comment #322 @ 04:23 CDT, 28 May 2012 >>
By Moldova quake is potat  - Reply to #287
'ello 'ello 'ello, whats all this then
<< Comment #323 @ 09:59 CDT, 28 May 2012 >>
By United Kingdom Disrepute  - Reply to #322
stalker!
<< Comment #288 @ 12:15 CST, 14 November 2009 >>
By ET:QW Shrike 
Wombat !
<< Comment #291 @ 19:14 CST, 15 November 2009 >>
By France Co1nCo1n 
czm: 22%

+ hub for QL
<< Comment #292 @ 11:01 CST, 16 November 2009 >>
By France Shardik 
Thresh for sure !

and Hub, Qtv, mvd for QL yep :)
Edited by Shardik at 11:02 CST, 16 November 2009
<< Comment #293 @ 19:06 CST, 16 November 2009 >>
czm for sure. the best player ever to grace the quake community with his presence imho.
really wish he would make another comeback in QL. :)
<< Comment #294 @ 05:29 CST, 19 November 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr 
NEED NEW POLL: WHO GONNA WIN DHW KKTHXBYE
<< Comment #295 @ 07:22 CST, 20 November 2009 >>
By QuakeLive JDMYO 
Paul Nelson! lets have one last duel tourney off you?! Come on dude. You can live upto Rapha, Cypher and Cooller. No one else can but CZM can :)
Someone make Hub for QL and bring CZM back! :)
Shit! - I bet Rapha would own on hub... :o
<< Comment #296 @ 08:07 CST, 20 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #299 @ 10:37 CST, 28 November 2009 >>
By Netherlands Black2lip 
Blue or LakermaN two of my favorite quake players all time.
<< Comment #310 @ 14:09 CDT, 7 July 2010 >>
By Estonia dunZ 
toxjq : )
<< Comment #311 @ 04:48 CDT, 28 July 2010 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates  - Reply to #310
Done.
<< Comment #312 @ 05:00 CDT, 28 July 2010 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #311
Then it could only get better if LakermaN stopped being a poker millionaire and started quake again!
<< Comment #313 @ 05:04 CDT, 28 July 2010 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates  - Reply to #312
If he thinks that this is the right way. Don't think he'll replace his millions from poker with a dirty old railgun :P
Edited by nails at 05:04 CDT, 28 July 2010
<< Comment #315 @ 12:48 CDT, 2 September 2010 >>
By US-Arizona klout 
Fatal1ty, fox and czm.
<< Comment #316 @ 11:35 CDT, 29 September 2010 >>
By USSR Lowbird 
need more lexer votes tbfh. or else your not enlightened.
<< Comment #319 @ 13:45 CDT, 1 October 2010 >>
By Germany - Freistaat Sachsen sic4rius 
Fatal1ty ofc.

But I highly doubt that he would perform a comeback in a broken game and a watered down version of one of his favourite games, which lacks the ability to spawn LAN servers. By now he already must have realised that there's no future for a game as incomplete and undeveloped like QL.

And what else is there for people wanting fast gameplay and compete in 1on1 tourneys? Right, nothink!
<< Comment #321 @ 17:30 CDT, 27 May 2012 >>
By United States of America DizzyMage 
what was the last tournament doomer competed in?
<< Comment #324 @ 14:56 CDT, 1 July 2013 >>
srs.cypher
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k1llsen
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