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Statistics of Porn Online. (5 comments)
Posted by _agu @ 04:03 BST, 29 August 2014 - iMsg
http://gizmodo.com/the-ultimate-breakdown-of-...1626618056


Honestly folks, this is very interesting! hahaha!
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Remarks (improvements?) about dmgdisplay (3 comments)
Posted by Infuscomus @ 22:37 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
This is not a flaming thread, I'm just here to propose a discussion about dmg display.

I played a bit in practice mode and I saw this new thing, the damage display. I found it pretty useless and RPG-style at first and then I thought it was probably meant to give some insight to the players for him to evaluate better the stack of his opponent (may id never implement something to see the enemy life, but who knows what a "modern" fps should be...).

Then, okay, but why did they choose this way of displaying damage when it comes to mg / lg / hmg and especially shotgun.

I think it would be more efficient, and smarter, if dmg would add up. For instance, if you hit 5 pellets with your shotgun, why not display 25 dmg instead of 5 small "5" ?

Same with the mg, lg and so on. The sound is already telling you when you hit, so, if you hit a player with let's say 10 LG cells in a row. Why not display 60 dmg instead of 10x6 ?

I think it could be a better way to display damage. What do you think ? I don't see any point in displaying 10 x 5 when I shoot with the shotgun, I don't have the time to count them all actually since they disappear pretty fast.

Also, I'd like to add that I think this shouldn't be authorised in classic, because classic is supposed to be where you have to master the game and evaluating the enemy stack is an important feature of the game strategy. Thus, facilitating the evaluation might somewhat lower this strategy aspect.
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No one talking about CTF? (15 comments)
Posted by magadog @ 20:56 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
CTF completely sucks now. Classic CTF is unranked. So this might be the final nail in the coffin for CTF.

In Q3, ctf was very popular, and ctf servers remained the last servers that were well populated.

I feel like QL killed CTF with proximity mines and all the other TA bullshit, and now this is the final nail in the coffin.

No one is even talking about CTF now, one of the funnest game types, because id messed it up and never bothered to fix it.

And the reason CTF sucks now, for those who need elaboration, the new changes make ctf purely an aim and fighting skill game now. Because any idiot can run past an item timer and see that it is about to spawn and wait for it. Now players that had strong timing skill have no edge.

The new changes won't help newbs. Newbs will still be clueless. It just helps the mindless players pickup items and shifts more importance upon aim.

I do like the fact that they got rid of the TA BS FINALLY. But it was years too late.
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Fishing Quest (4 comments)
Posted by Bridge2Babylon @ 20:11 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
I went fishing this morning and caught this fine specimen. It's a "channel cat" catfish from our local Trinity River. Behold.
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The true story behind twitch and amazon. (No comments)
Posted by sucky sucky 5 dolla @ 20:01 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
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Bridge to Rail in 2014 (14 comments)
Posted by megaman3 @ 18:52 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
In the latest QL update.

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DELETE (5 comments)
Posted by Sed @ 18:27 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
DELETE
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cheaters are allowed? (12 comments)
Posted by shyne @ 18:18 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
Hello, does anybody know why cheaters are allowed and every new account gets banned for no reason? Also I get no reply from sponge or sasparillo or support@quakelive.com when I ask them about my ban after 5 games? I even uploaded demo's...still no reply.. and I think they even banned my ip from #quakelive on irc :D rofl

lol look this : this guy is cheating for a while now:

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/summary/Tacho66

check a couple of his last games haha.

So id what's up with that?

too busy banning new accounts?
You are killing quake thx
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War in Ukraine (5 comments)
Posted by aiken @ 17:46 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
http://liveuamap.com/

It has began :/. Putin still lying all the time.
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Quake Live forum nazi admins (4 comments)
Posted by poros1ty @ 17:16 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
LMAO. I think Sasparillo gets himself hard by giving out infractions. Harassment, defamation, and infraction for inappropriate language because I said "shit" which was filtered anyways.

You have been banned for the following reason:
Harassing or Defamatory

Date the ban will be lifted: 08-31-2014, 04:00 PM


Dear poros1ty,

You have received an infraction at QUAKE LIVE Forums.

Reason: Harassing or Defamatory
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This infraction is worth 3 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php...post301785

---Quote---
Don't worry, I'll be sure to give it this game a horrible review on steam as soon as it is released.

Dear poros1ty,

You have received an infraction at QUAKE LIVE Forums.

Reason: Inappropriate Language
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This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php...e-changes-(let-the-rant-begin)&p=301789#post301789

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Not gonna even bother to play FFA with these **** settings. Default setting is a horrible idea. This is what happens when the game is run by newbs.
---End Quote---
All the best,
QUAKE LIVE Forums
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Played a few games today...feel insulted (41 comments)
Posted by Lolzy @ 16:35 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
Bear with me.

1) Automatic bunnyhop. This is so retarded it simply has to be removed. Seriously? We spent months to get movement good and timed. We spent years getting all tricks perfected.
Now the simple basic thing that everybody should be able to perform after some training is AUTOMATIC. Really? Are players that dumb now?

2) LOLadouts. This makes every game with them an easy cake for any veteran. Imagine, you don't have to get across the map to get LG or that overpowered new thingamajig for example(more on that in the next point), you GET IT FOR FREE. What is this shit for, I don't know. It's supposed to make newbies not vulnerable after spawn? If so GJ idiots, because this makes us veterans even MORE able to kill them. I get spawned with LG or HMG, I rack up frags from the start. Because, you see, the player still hast ho have SKILL to use the gun. GJ!

3) Heavy Mental Gun. This weapon looks nt that bad, albeit out of place when compared to other guns in QL. But that's a minor point. The real lol is: Hitscan, long range, 8 dmg. Also, available for loadout. Try to play any space map with it, or better AGAINST it. Just try. Also, in FFA that gun is a total joke, allows for farming everyone around without any special skill. LG required you to be much more precise, and had medium range. Required skill. This pepper gun is just a game-breaker.

4) AMMO PACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! AGHUEXJFDSAFK!!!! This is where I began to explode. I mean, no more using brains? ammo packs for all of the shit? Holy crapeiro? Yeah, because learning different colors of ammo boxes and memorizing their placement was SO DIFFICULT. Is this game for retarded/disabled people?

5) No team damage? Nowhere? Are you...ahh. My brains topped working. I just hear a howling sound in my head, asking why, why, WHY? TD required you to THINK and AIM well. Because otherwise you killed or damaged your very own teamamtes. Can't have that with no-brain spamming noobs, can we.

6) Reduced ammo respawn. WTF? Let's get better! Let's make ammo NEVER DISAPPEAR! This way we will solve the problem of ammo packs forever! - this is a mental note for monkeys who devised this idea. I bet the next update will make ammo packs never expire. I mean, counting your ammo is for idiots, right? let's spam with neverending stream of ammo, right? RIGHT? Jesus Christ on a very long fucking stick, this is really a brilliant idea. MOAR WEAPON, MOAR AMMO!

7) Powerup POIs/item timers. Oh, here we go. Back in the day you had to know the VERY DIFFICULT and SO MYSTICAL times for all items and PUs. It was so hard some of us died. Really. Not.
Given how anyone past first grades of elementary should count well at the very least up to 100, the issue of these measly seconds was no problem for anyone. It was a matter of learning the times and keeping them. Something akin to taking your dog for a walk periodically.
But no, they had to remove that too. REMOVE THIS SIMPLE THING THAT ANY IDIOT CAN MASTER with a little bit of incentive and will. How's that? Man, now even a very dumb monkey (because even normal monkeys CAN COUNT) can play this game. We are all saved.

8) Icing on the cake: Classic is unranked. NORMAL QUAKE IS UNRANKED. Good, how nice. The noob friendly version that requires a tiny amount of skill needed to master original Quake allows you to hit insane accuracies and get easy wins. The mode that actually requires skill matters not, no stats. What for? Apparently, for the devs, If you play oldschool version you're so well versed in game mechanics that you should count all stats in your head. No hand-holding. REAL DEAL. Lol.

To summarize:

-This update won't bring new players because it allows veterans to be even more deadly. Because it is a lot easier.
-This update is for idiots who can't count, can't move and can't learn anything more than +forward and +fire.
-This update causes players who want to learn and old playerbase to leave in droves because it breaks every aspect of QL.

I TOLD THIS BEFORE, I WILL REPAT IT. What for, I don't know.

You idiots, you broke the game. id Software made Q3A and it was good. Then you started improving it. You ironed out bugs, fine. You added some shit, removed some thit, fine. Changed guns, fucked up but okay let's give you benefit of the doubt. But you started to CHANGE TOO MUCH.

You see, your basic playerbase was people who played Quake in its old iterations. They were used to oldschool mechanics, mainly because they SIMPLY WORKED for over a decade. How's that. I told it so many times that the only way for QL to stay alive is KEEP IT AS AN OLDSCHOOL NICHE FPS. With time, the players would come and the oldschools would stay and be happy. I told you that you should advertise it as a fast-paced, hard game for real men. Take this: If somebody is a fag who cant play, he will be a fag whether he plays DisabledQuake or QL or Q3A or QW. If somebody wants to learn, he will learn. If somebody wants to get better, he will.

But no, you decided to make it nnob friendly. As if such thing was even possible. You decided to make an easy route for you, forgetting that you're no Warsow or other BS. QUAKE is an enterprise and a LABEL that's been onboard the PC gaming bandwagon since 1996. It was a heritage to be proud of and expand upon. It had a huge, loyal playerbase of oldschool Quakers who were more than happy to jump back into the game.

Yet you blew it all away. You overthought it, pals. You overworked it. You overshot the target. Now you will pay. Your target customers are already leaving in droves, and noobs will get bored after few games and quit back to BF or COD.

Good job, please do a standing ovation for id. NOT.
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The unspoken debate (everything but LG) (56 comments)
Posted by n0cturn3 @ 13:03 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
Everyone seems to be obsessed with the LG dmg change , I don't mind the LG nerf, it's still a powerful weapon. I wanted to share some thoughts on the other changes.

DamagePlum
Except in duel, this doesn't affect gameplay, most players already know how much damage weapons do. If anything, it's a positive change, new players won't have to look at a guide to learn how much damage each weapon does. It's also possible to disable this, which really should be forced (at least as a server option) in duels.

Item timers
This is actually a nice change. Initially my thoughts on this were, they're just dumbing this down...
However, the timers are vague enough that it still requires a bit of map awareness to show up on time, while at the same time making it less likely for one player to hog items. This is a nice balance.

Heavy Machine Gun
I get why this was created, I get why they didn't just alter mg dmg. But this gun is completely overpowered. I know, I know, it does less dps than lg. But lg has a falloff range, hmg is like a slightly less powerful lg that hits across a large map, use this weapon on an open map like hells gate and then try and tell me it isn't overpowered.

Loadout
I'm not familiar enough with other game modes affected by this, so I'll discuss FFA. It's never before been possible to start a quake match with an advantage over other players. You all get random spawns, the same weapons etc. Now, selecting a different load out, far from levelling the playing field, is creating a huge imbalance in gameplay. With everyone spawning with powerful weapons, you're going to get fragged more often, giving you less of a chance to get more ammo or a decent weapon. But more importantly, depending on the map, one loadout might be more effective than another loadout, so there's an inherent imbalance before the game even starts. You might argue this is a new skill people should learn, which loadout to select based on the map, but then you're just making this more difficult for new players, not easier.

Ammo
Both the ammo respawn time (10 seconds across all types) and universal ammo are poor design decisions.
This may not seem like such a bad idea, but it removes yet another skill from the quake players reportoire. You can no longer deny an ammo crate, or trap players going for ammo for specific weapons.

I'm surprised they didn't do away with health bubbles and switch to regenerative health. Keeping track of where hp is on the map, too difficult for new players. Of course, health bubbles can be used as a trap, if someone is low you might predict they'll make their way to a bubble, fire a rocket etc. Maybe this feature is next.

Physics
The classic rule set physics has been altered, it feels like pql lite. Movement is faster, there's stair jumping or whatever it's called. You can jump on top of another player when standing right next to them without any height advantage. I'm running around maps bumping into walls because the movement feels so different. Why wasn't this change mentioned anywhere? Is it a bug, is it intentional?

There also seem to be a few bugs in duel classic. Hells gate and asylum aren't regular duel maps, but there's no reason why these should be spawning the HMG in classic mode. You can disable hmg spawning, but then you're left with an empty spawn for RL (on asylum) and they've moved the SG on hells gate, which is in a less exposed position now.

If you want new players to stick with the game, let them learn it like everyone else did. With a decent single player progression with options for different difficulties. Surely this can't be hard to implement, and it would let you keep the game as is, without messing with a formula that's proven successful over 14 years.
Edited by n0cturn3 at 21:43 BST, 28 August 2014 - 1166 Hits
Where is Forever these days? (7 comments)
Posted by nemecel @ 12:56 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
Where is that dutch (i think) guy? He used to play Q4 at top level. And also, where's Lost Cauze? are the playing something?
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gaiia | CPMA World Champion 2013 (114 comments)
Posted by DEZ_ @ 09:01 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg



0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Rating: 8.8 (125 votes)
This is a CPMA fragmovie about Finland gaiia created by Russia Lunokhod-2 (special thanks for help in creating to Russia DEZ).

Edited by xou at 09:01 BST, 28 August 2014 - 2190 Hits
How to get a girl in 5 steps! (27 comments)
Posted by ZhuMusic @ 08:22 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
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#SWATTED (8 comments)
Posted by zb0t @ 07:12 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
(don't do it guys)

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renaming turbo suggestions (34 comments)
Posted by qwih @ 04:16 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
so pql is now called turbo. And it is dreadfull. It sounds like a dog name, and a bad one. So it's time to step up and come up with something decent ourselves.

first thing from the top of my head: Futuristic Quake
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new update and demos (9 comments)
Posted by reply_to_#1 @ 02:48 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
renaming them to dm_90 and playing them crashes my game
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New cvars for August 2014 update (29 comments)
Posted by Yakumo @ 01:29 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
cg_simpleItemsBob
0 off
1 all
2 major items only.

cg_damagePlumColorStyle

1 damage colours that fade out to transparent,
2 damage colours (colour matches crosshairdamage),
3 it matches the weapon icon colours.


cg_damagePlum
The three settings from the advanced game menu give :
all set:
cg_damagePlum "g mg sg gl rl lg rg pg bfg gh cg ng pl hmg"

or for just AoE (area of effect) it's set to
cg_damagePlum "sg gl rl pg bfg"

or off:
clearcvar cg_damagePlum

obviously you can tailor it to be for any weapons you like by editing out what you don't want from the list above


"cg_simpleItemsBob", "cg_damagePlum" may not autocomplete in the console at first until they're set but these are correct, it's 'plum' not 'plums'.


cg_autohop
0 disables hold +moveup to keep hopping
1 default.
It's pretty much unoticable if you're used to QL movement, but you may want to use this to force autohop off on your client.

cg_powerupPOIs
0 off
1 hidden when not looking through a wall
2 default, see through walls.

/bind x "weapon 14"
The Heavy Machine Gun (HMG)

/bind x "weapon toggle"
Swap between primary and secondary loadout weapon.
It always goes to primary first from any other weapon, unless you're already on primary then it swaps to secondary as you'd expect.
You can't direct bind secondary, you can only double tap the toggle key but doing this won't give two weapon changes, it will go straight to secondary.

/kill
It's not new, but it is now allowed on all default severs, with a 1 second spawn penalty.

seta wp "rl"
seta ws "sg"
The loadout menu sets these, or you can currently script it your self to control your weapon primary, and weapon secondary, then you need to /kill to receive them.

all of these are in the in game menus, except for the autohop option

New for HUD files:
widescreen 0

As far as I'm aware that's all that was added, I'll edit this post if any more come up.

Bonus - how to convert old custom maps
quakelivedec old.pk3 old.pk3

respond yes when it asks about overwriting. Done, no need to mess about with zip applications or even renaming.
Check the file is still write only though or the launcher will delete it.
Edited by Yakumo at 20:37 BST, 28 August 2014 - 1095 Hits
PCGamer article about recent QL changes (12 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 00:48 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
So if all else fails, at least the word is finally out and people talk about our game.

An editor from PCGamer Andy Chalk posted an article in regards to the community outburst and reaction to latest game changes.

For a fun time, check the comment section.

"They've compared the game with chess, however essentially what they've done is taken the queen out of chess because it's not noob friendly."

"Well. Way to ruin a classic game. Nice work."

"Damn... how newbie friendly do games have to be nowadays... as I recall Quake 3 is about as close to 'insert CD and fire' as you can get. In fact you don't even need to insert the CD any more you can just go to the website and start flailing wildly.

I don't want to be some PC elitist but this is a pretty pathetic case of dumbing down. I mean come on. Dwarf Fortress? Sure. Ikaruga? Yep. Quake...? Come on man..."

Links: Source
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wolfcam broken (6 comments)
Posted by ObiousAlias @ 00:10 BST, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
Old demos play fine, new demos don't.

Just says "invalid playerstate field count"
I recopied all files from the baseq3 folder from ql to wolfcam as well.
So much for easy demo viewing.
Edited by ObiousAlias at 00:31 BST, 28 August 2014 - 255 Hits
PROMODE: gaiia CPMA World Champion (3 comments)
Posted by Smofo @ 23:33 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg



0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Rating: 8.8 (3 votes)
Youtube
Direct download

http://playmorepromode.org/

Try CPM today while QL is for little toddlers!

#cpmduel #cpmpickup #uscpmpickup

Made by Lunokhod
Edited by Smofo at 00:09 BST, 28 August 2014 - 83 Hits
Strenx does the ALS challenge. (4 comments, locked)
Posted by Whipas @ 23:25 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
So everyones riding the ALS challenge dickride...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCYSAJna5hg
Locked by Teen Queen at 00:39 BST, 28 August 2014 - 353 Hits
Micro movie ffa by HUK (6 comments)
Posted by kevlark @ 22:55 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Last frags by HUK on dm73 demos, dm90 is new format - www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9L1Plq_Qec
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Q4 ZOOM FIX? (6 comments)
Posted by kuruuu @ 22:49 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
I've been using stermys q4 zoom forever, but now with the new update it's totally fucked up. Anyone have any fix for this?
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Edited by _agu at 23:13 BST, 27 August 2014 - 356 Hits
* N U K E D * (4 comments, locked)
Posted by Nuked User @ 21:25 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
* N U K E D *

Dpi sens accel fov do you use with g100s (No comments)
Posted by Veis @ 21:08 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Can you tell me wich sens dpi fov and accel do you use with g100s thanks.....
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Sensitivity: QL config exec'd in Q3 (8 comments)
Posted by tsipouro @ 21:01 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
After the QL-update today I installed Quake 3 and CPMA again and exec'd my QL config, just to see if it would work out, and actually, it sort of did. Visually it looks fine. Though, my sensitivity felt way off. It feels too low and mouseaccel feels way too low, it doesn't kick in like in QL. Any troubleshoot ideas?

Also, is there a summary of important commands that can't be ported 1:1 from QL to Q3?

Or is all of this pretty futile, and I should build a q3-cfg from scratch, going through each command seperately?
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Commands for item bob and damage display (17 comments)
Posted by tsipouro @ 19:52 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Hey... So hyped for the new changes -.-

How do I disable the above mentioned, that is the bob of major items when simpleitems is on and the stupid damage display, whenever I hit an opponent... What are the commands?

Many thanks in advance :D
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Level Up TV - We’re Talking It Ep 6 (49 comments)
Posted by Disrepute @ 19:37 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Scheduled: 20:00 BST, 28 August 2014 to 21:00 BST, 28 August 2014
Schedule: Passed

Level Up TV is back and hot on the heels of the latest Quake Live update is ready to talk! We have finally reached episode 6 of ‘We’re Talking It’ our topical chat show, and this time it features United Kingdom Disrepute, United Kingdom vor and United Kingdom nvc.

Discussion topics

The Quake Live update, the major changes, the community and our reactions, how it will impact the future of the game... and all the related topics around. We also have some community questions to answer! Tune in on TV1 twitch.tv/leveluptv.

Related: Level Up TV - mIRC Twitter Facebook YouTube
Edited by Badb0y at 20:59 BST, 27 August 2014 - 2551 Hits
I will never play ql again.. (14 comments)
Posted by sucky sucky 5 dolla @ 19:29 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
..without the Heavy Machine Gun, that shit is awesome.
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Should I enter #esreality (2 comments)
Posted by futurist @ 19:09 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
to chat?
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The great debate: nerfed LG. Why? (151 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 18:57 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg

Tried to cut it up and make it as short as possible.

TL;DR
LG is the only weapon that got nerfed, it has no positive effects on beginners OR veterans alike.

I'm trying to find a REASONABLE explanation as to why this happened? What was the though process? Why has no one talked about his and then suddenly "lol lg 2 op"
Edited by Teen Queen at 18:57 BST, 27 August 2014 - 3023 Hits
Latest update to QL - i hate change, wah (4 comments)
Posted by eburbeck @ 17:58 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
stop crying, duel is still the same.
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Quake Live Update - August 27, 2014 (626 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 17:44 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
The long awaited update that stirred up a lot of heated arguments is finally here, this is one of the first steps towards the transition that will prepare ql Quake Live for the official steam Steam release. The developers included a heartfelt message along with the changelog, instead of the stale config variable and map fixes, this time the impactful changes won't leave anyone unaffected. The mellow message from the developers shines light on a new perspective that you either love or hate. Is this a new beginning or the everlasting end? You decide.
"Quake is a masterful game of skill, often compared to Chess by its veteran players. However, with that depth has come a challenge to welcome and capture new players long enough for them to discover the joy to be found in what many consider the finest Deathmatch game ever made."

Links: Source
Edited by xou at 19:15 BST, 27 August 2014 - 10367 Hits
QL 2.0 UPDATE IS LIVE NOW (135 comments)
Posted by florekkk @ 17:34 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
http://www.quakelive.com/#!news/site_news/37858
Wanted to play one duel, but ql was offline. After 5 minutes it went on again, they "updated" everything and i think i'm gonna log in only to cancel my subscription.

Share your feels
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QW Claustrophobopolis grand finals (8 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 16:24 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Scheduled: 19:00 BST, 3 September 2014 to 20:00 BST, 3 September 2014
Begins In:

Just when you thought old shooters are gone for good, Quake Quakeworld comes up with an exciting one map cup. The tournament has already come to an end, the all-Swedish finals between Sweden LocKtar vs Sweden Xterm will be played on September 3rd at 19:00 BST. A detailed description of the cup progression and participants is listed below.


Stream: SuddenDeathTV
Links: Source, Get Quake, Brackets and results
Edited by xou at 19:25 BST, 27 August 2014 - 540 Hits
The future of quake is so bright (6 comments)
Posted by Oleedee @ 13:26 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Dear all,

The future of quake is so bright, because the game is just so fuckign awesome.

The level of most players is just so fucking supernaturaly high, all the young players can really look up to these guys, the dedication and work that goes in to playing like some people do is just mind blowing and a real inspiration. The diversity in the types of characters that emerge in the scene is also an asset and a joy.
Improvments in technologie have made great settups for playing more comonplace so that more players can play the game as its ment to be played, leveling the playing field!

Streeming and all the new comunity created media has given newer players a glimpse into how good players think and practice and generaly what quake is about and what makes it unique and in many ways far superior to most fps games.
So much fun to be had!

I look forward to seeing how we will find a way past this silly period where id and others think they own quake and are determined to fuck it up, when really WE own it now! Mwahahaha
Lets not fall at the final hurdle. Its time to bring quake into a more mature age where computer games gain the same respect and depth of understanding as more historic and established games such as chess. This calls for ease of distribution and a nutral, functional, classy and customisable user interface.

I'm going to start work on harnessing the bitcoin protocol's hashing power to run decentralised super low ping 1v1 servers today. Gimme 5 hours I should have one up and running.

I love you all! litteraly.
Yours sincerely, oboblower2
Edited by Oleedee at 13:36 BST, 27 August 2014 - 566 Hits
The Extra Life Marathon on October 25th (5 comments)
Posted by Brainie @ 00:28 BST, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Some of you might have done an activity through fund-raising. Simply look out for sponsors such as parents, family, friends, and make a marathon such as biking, running, or anything else for a good cause, a cause that you think is good.

... What if you could fight for a good cause from your computer ? Funded in 2008, Extra Life Marathon is a gaming marathon that aims to collect money for the Children’s Miracle Network Hospitals located in USA as well as in Canada. These children suffer from various diseases from cancer to injuries from accidents.

The idea is simple: you find sponsors (parents, family, friends, and so on) who are ready to pay you to play video games for 24 hours and you give back the money to Extra Life who will distribute it to the hospital of your choice (that belongs to CMN). This gaming marathon is starting on October 25th at 8:00 am . Of course you do not need to play 24 hours in a row. You can make a team and make some blocked hours, take breaks, and so on. In other words, you have to play a total of 24 hours to complete this marathon.

So, are you ready to play some Quake, Counter Strike or anything else for a good cause? ;)

Links
What is Extra Life ?
Join the marathon
Donate
More explicit post on Reddit's blog
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Reflex needs to look at QW for.. (94 comments)
Posted by Shin-obi @ 23:44 BST, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
inspiration, not quakelive, if it wants to be a success.*

some things that reflex could copy

quakeworld's faster run speed[400ups with strafing]: this will make rockets and lg harder to land and you will see less jumping, which will make the game less random.

backpacks for tdm would be an improvement over the weapon trading-ffa style tdm from q2, cpm, and ql.

grapplehook ctf? newbies love their devices :)

there are more features that the team could copy from qw, but i'll just leave that for the devteam to find themselves.


and what's up with the hate for cpm 1v1? it's a beautiful game, especially when played on a good map



this is what cpm look likes when played on a good map(cpm15 is the best available in cpm).
not too shabby
better than any of the blowout games from the quakecon finals :)


*quakelive died after just 2 years
everyone wants to blame id software for killing the game, but i believe the gameplay(especially the team gameplay) is why it ultimately failed after 2 years. same thing happened to quake 3

reflex needs to focus on map making, improving the game for hardcore players, and coming up with NEW fun modes for casual players(THE NEXT instagib-type game) if it wants to have a long life as KING.
Edited by Shin-obi at 20:03 BST, 27 August 2014 - 1605 Hits
ZOOT ACCEPTS THE ALS CHALLENGE (97 comments)
Posted by KiNG3 @ 22:18 BST, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
2386 Hits
Unplayable CA (49 comments)
Posted by bogOtac @ 20:38 BST, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
Why the hell is the number of 10%accuracy players on t4 servers increasing every day? I know its public ca and there will always be someone with much less skill then the others but seriously it was never like this! Anyone else noticed this ???
How the fuck can they even join the server...
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Russia vs USA - social experiment (31 comments)
Posted by aiken @ 20:23 BST, 26 August 2014 - iMsg


Hmmm. My country could be somewhere in between these two I guess, but this experiment went really bad in Russia. A reason may be that there are much more drunk people over the streets, but this guy didn't look like a bum. What do you think?
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QLRanks.com userscript update 1.103 (5 comments)
Posted by PredatH0r @ 18:20 BST, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
- added /elo profile=x,y,... to open QLRanks profile of players x,y,... in your web browser
mix in "duel", "ca", "tdm" or "ffa" as player name to set the game type for the next real player names
default game type is the current server's or duel, if not connected to a server.

- added a "badge letter" to /elo score indicating the number of games completed (according to the official QL user profile stats):
A-J are in steps of 100, so A=0-99, B=100-199, ... J=900-999
K-Y are in steps of 1000 so K=1000-1999, L=2000-2999
Z is 16000 and anything above

e.g. 1660F means 1660 Elo, with 500-599 games completed

- fixed formatting for red team average
Edited by PredatH0r at 18:22 BST, 26 August 2014 - 382 Hits
sKaven -vs- stab1lo (No comments)
Posted by mdv @ 18:00 BST, 26 August 2014 - iMsg


0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Rating: - (0 votes)
Gametype: Duel
Map: N/A
Mod: N/A
Viewpoint: sKaven
How to play back UT2004 demos


grandfinal of the 10 years of ut2004 duel cup. ive made a youtube vod too, with a "multivod" feeling.
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Dawn of the dumb (22 comments)
Posted by daytripper @ 15:42 BST, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
IQs have not only plateaued in many developed countries around the world – including the UK, Australia, US and in Scandinavian countries – they are actually measurably dropping.

It’s an important enough development for it to be the cover story of this week’s New Scientist magazine, which hits newsstands today.

Dawn of the dumb – scientists say IQs are beginning to fall in the UK

New Scientist: Brain drain: Are we evolving stupidity? (paywall)

I knew it! ;)
Edited by daytripper at 15:46 BST, 26 August 2014 - 593 Hits
Europa Barbarorum 2.0 released! (1 comment)
Posted by H1ghlander @ 14:43 BST, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
Edited by H1ghlander at 14:48 BST, 26 August 2014 - 90 Hits
End of the world is coming... (19 comments)
Posted by ipx! @ 12:35 BST, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
Today. Patch today. ESR is gonna explode.

See you on the other side!

EDIT: Sorry folks, the end of the world has been postponed! Turns out my sources were incorrect. Shame on me.

18:22:56 <@sponge> steam is still a few weeks away, the gameplay update is as soon as qa and everyone else signs off on it
18:25:42 <@sponge> but like theres no lead time between us being done and shipping the update so there's no date, its pretty much the day after
Edited by ipx! at 17:29 BST, 26 August 2014 - 1458 Hits
Supraball crowdfounding has started (20 comments)
Posted by takesix @ 11:43 BST, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
As stated by Supraball's developers on their facebook page

Crowdfunding for Supraball starts now!

We’re doing this to increase production speed and quality by about 500%.

Go get the unique rewards for your pledge now!

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/supraball/x/8330662


official website
facebook page
Edited by takesix at 11:47 BST, 26 August 2014 - 642 Hits
Psycho Dad shreds video games (3 comments)
Posted by _agu @ 06:24 BST, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EglOsfErtaE





BEWARE THE SCENES ARE GOING TO SHOCK YOU!
Edited by _agu at 06:28 BST, 26 August 2014 - 265 Hits
Is video gaming a spectator sport? - BBC (11 comments)
Posted by earth_quake @ 23:50 BST, 25 August 2014 - iMsg
Just seen this video on the BBC website. I felt like sharing it because it makes watching gaming sound new/unusual/minority. Key quotes:

"Sitting in front of a computer all day playing computer games is one thing, but sitting watching other people play video games, all day; really!?"

"There are even commentators!"

Someone really didn't do his research. Talking gaming in general, PewDiePie is the most subscribed youtube channel. Minecraft videos get millions of views. Amazon bought twitch for $1bn just today.

Obviously I'm exactly one of the esport spectators that the reporter talks about, so I was a bit taken aback. Wonder what others think of this 'report'.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-28923671
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Twitch has been acquired by... Amazon (50 comments)
Posted by kK_Storm @ 21:28 BST, 25 August 2014 - iMsg
https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/503996320349057024

Yep, that's right. Not Google, but Amazon.
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name this song (classical) (5 comments)
Posted by Dird @ 17:55 BST, 25 August 2014 - iMsg


SoundHound can't identify it & all searches for the song are in German :/

First correct = [+]
Edited by Dird at 17:55 BST, 25 August 2014 - 172 Hits
Number 1 problem with Quake. (140 comments)
Posted by MajkiFajki @ 14:09 BST, 25 August 2014 - iMsg
After 6 months, I played FFA in QL. Server was "green" on skill-match.

https://i.imgur.com/EI0nNwg.png

Seriously, this is biggest problem with QL atm. If I were totally new to Quake, after that match I would re-think if I want to play such game.
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Winz interview by Esportactu (88 comments)
Posted by Infuscomus @ 13:55 BST, 25 August 2014 - iMsg
Hello. Esportactu is glad to present you its last interview with France Michaël "Winz" Bignet, famous for his carreer in UT2k4, Q4 and QL. The interview was mainly motivated by his recent good performance in the 125 FPS August league, where he was able to beat Russia Pavel "pavel" Fomkin in two maps, which no one really expected.

In this interview, we asked Winz about his QuakeCon experience and his return on the duel field, but also about the next Unreal Tournament game, his loan to Russia Sergey "evil" Orekhov in 2013, and the future changes to QuakeLive gameplay. As a bonus, you'll find Winz config and setup at the beginning of the interview.

Here is an extract of the interview:
France Esportactu: Your presence on the duel scene makes me think of your unfriendly relation with strenx, since you could have to play him one day or another. Is the perspective of beating him a source of motivation or does it make no difference ?

France Winz: It would probably have mattered a few years ago. As I said, I have a more casual approach to the game now and this ego war does not move me anymore. Honestly, if we had played at QuakeCon, in the shape I was in, he would probably have beaten me, and I have no problem with that.

More on esportactu.fr
We also have an interview with Norway Kenneth "plazma" Aulie, which will be uploaded soon. Play more Quake !

Previous Interviews: France Guismo12 (2014), United Kingdom ddk, Russia Latrommi, Australia FraZe, France Sev3n, Netherlands Baksteen, Belgium dem0n, France Guismo12 (2012)
Source: esportactu.fr
Edited by Badb0y at 14:53 BST, 25 August 2014 - 3722 Hits
kana V2 Question (4 comments)
Posted by Hookinsu @ 11:55 BST, 25 August 2014 - iMsg
Using the Kana v2 since a while now...and i have a question.

It sometimes feels a little jittery (extremly low, only noticeable if i pay attention to my mouse arrow...but i dont know if it affects my aim or not) or something like that. I dont know if its just some sort of negative placebo cause i still cant aim as well with it as with my DA.

But whats the best way of finding out if its working properly or not? Are there any programs which can help me there?
Or is the Sensor flawless, as many people seem to say, and im just a noob?

The mouse is using the Avago ADNS-3090 (like most of the Zowie mice, such as the FK)

https://imageshack.com/i/iqLijudVj This is what it looks like in paint, seems flawless to me...but i really dont know.

The Sensor in my DA used to be more in the front (i used it for 7 years or so). The Sensor in the Kana V2 is more in the back...does it make a big diffrence ?

(Since i posted it in the wrong area and got no response, i give it another shot here :))
Edited by Hookinsu at 12:46 BST, 25 August 2014 - 249 Hits
Site summary for week ending 22 Aug (No comments)
Posted by ESReality @ 00:00 BST, 25 August 2014 - iMsg
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DuelCup.com - North American Duel Series (32 comments)
Posted by flair @ 21:37 BST, 24 August 2014 - iMsg
Don't you think it is about time that North America had a proper online series? It is my pleasure to bring to you the first of many Quake Live events. This event is part of a project I am starting to preserve (and hopefully grow) my favorite genre, the Arena-First-Person-Shooter. DuelCup.com (a working title) is the foundation for the project, and will be host to Monthly Quake Live Events. General information on the first Cup is below. For more details, comments, or questions come visit the website.


Don't duel? Join #natdm.ql to TDM and be awesome 1337

Sign Up: Website Stream: DuelCup Stream IRC: #duelcup
Edited by flair at 21:04 BST, 28 August 2014 - 2601 Hits
Considering holding tourney in DC area (13 comments)
Posted by dmr83457 @ 18:59 BST, 24 August 2014 - iMsg
I've been interesting in holding a DC area esports tournament after getting heavy into CSGO ealier this year. Initially I figured CSGO would be the one but after getting into QL recently and thinking about 1v1 intead of 5v5 I think QL may be a better fit. MagFest is coming up in January which would probably be the location though I might do some smaller events leading up to that.

A big part of my interest in esports is teaching others how to get started with a game and build a solid foundation. For example I played CS casually since the beginning but never got into it competitively until this year after finally learning the fundamentals thanks to all of the guides on youtube and the competitive matchmaking mode in CSGO. That has lead me to think that holding some sort of QL bootcamp and beginner tourney for some prizes would be a good idea, and then a separate advanced tournament for money.

Any thoughts, suggestions, etc? Anyone in DC area interested in teaching and/or competing? Obviously I'm at the beginning stages of working out the details but any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Kana V2 Question (5 comments)
Posted by Hookinsu @ 18:25 BST, 24 August 2014 - iMsg
Using the Kana v2 since a while now...and i have a question.

It sometimes feels a little jittery or something like that. I dont know if its just some sort of negative placebo cause i still cant aim as well with it as with my DA.

But whats the best way of finding out if its working properly or not? Are there any programs which can help me there?
Or is the Sensor flawless, as many people seem to say, and im just a noob?

The mouse is using the Avago ADNS-3090 (like most of the Zowie mice, such as the FK)

https://imageshack.com/i/iqLijudVj This is what it looks like in paint, seems flawless to me...but i really dont know.

The Sensor in my DA used to be more in the front (i used it for 7 years or so). The Sensor in the Kana V2 is more in the back...does it make a big diffrence ?

Edit: Wrong forum :(.
Edited by Hookinsu at 18:45 BST, 24 August 2014 - 352 Hits
Boyz recruiting! (78 comments)
Posted by *creep @ 18:19 BST, 24 August 2014 - iMsg
As a male gamer I am proud to announce that the Boyz! clan is now recruiting!

It's really easy to join, all you have to do is to say your in game name in this thread as a reply. If you for some weird reason doesn't have a name that sound very manlyish, you will need to prove that you are a male by sending a picture of your penis to my private mail.
Don't worry, the pictures won't be leaked because I know it is a very sensitive subject, I keep them safely stored in a box under my bed!

But why would you create an account that doesn't immidieatly reveals that you are male? Makes no sense...

However, since I am in charge of this clan, and the leader of the opressed male gaming society, I want to be treated as a god. If someone starts flameing me I want my whole pack come and rescue me, and if I starts losing I want my best players carry me.
Together we can make this game a better place. For all races. Maybe even Polaks... But remember, I am not a dicktator, we are all equals. I'm just slightly more important than the rest of you.

So why do I make this clan now, after years of submission in the gaming scene? The answer is simple. Soon QL will be totally retardified, with lots of new noob blood. And I want a strong army to hunt down them all. Together we can make my stats a little better, so I can look a little bit more elite. Together we can make me a god. I mean, I don't really need your help. But you know, it's an honour playing for me. Also... I'm very sexy looking ;)

Furthermore, as we evolve, there will be fragmovies. YES. Clanmovies! with afk frags and.. who knows.. maybe even some wh and aimbot clips. It will be awesome!

Heres our themesong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baY03yOJmGo

ALL HAIL MALE GAMING COMMUNITY

btw I'm not racist I'm pianist. I press down both black and whites..
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extraQL update 1.7 (18 comments)
Posted by PredatH0r @ 17:23 BST, 24 August 2014 - iMsg
extraQL.exe 1.7
- added option "Autoquit when QL quits"
- some internal code cleanup

QLRanks userscript v0.100
- /elo shuffle ignores specs now by default
- /elo shuffle,+player1,-player2 can be used to add/remove players from the shuffle (e.g. if team data is stale)
- improved output format for /elo shuffle
- internal code cleanup



Links userscript v6
Updated the Duel Spawn Logic link. Thx CMSS for providing it.
Edited by PredatH0r at 17:28 BST, 24 August 2014 - 822 Hits
another update leak from reddit (3 comments, locked)
Posted by cez_ @ 17:11 BST, 24 August 2014 - iMsg
http://pastebin.com/823RU5wU


dis

cuss

Public FFA Settings

New ruleset in full effect


Public Duel Settings

New ruleset in full effect


Public TDM Settings

New ruleset in full effect
Friendly-Fire disabled.
Power-up drops enabled.
Fraglimit 150
Timelimit 15
Teamsize 5 (no callvoting teamsize).


Public CA Settings

New ruleset enabled without loadouts (new physics, but 'all' weapons - classic ca + hmg)
Round Limit 7
Teamsize 5 (no callvoting teamsize).


Public CTF Settings

New ruleset enabled without loadouts (new physics, mg starter, in-world item timers, etc)
Timelimit 15
Teamsize 5 (no callvoting teamsize).


Public FT Settings

New ruleset in full effect
Timelimit 15
Teamsize 5 (no callvoting teamsize).


Public DOM Settings

New ruleset in full effect
Weapons drop for additional weapons.
Self damage enabled.
Timelimit 15
Teamsize 5 (no callvoting teamsize).


Public AD Settings

New ruleset in full effect
Weapons drop for additional weapons.
Timelimit 15
Teamsize 5 (no callvoting teamsize).
Locked by Teen Queen at 17:25 BST, 24 August 2014 - 256 Hits
So are they going to release the update (122 comments)
Posted by nemecel @ 13:50 BST, 24 August 2014 - iMsg
after summer holidays, when all the kids (new potential userbase) start classes again and have less time to play games? Why not release it before summer ends for fuck's sake.
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New Level Up TV Show - Ask... (62 comments)
Posted by Disrepute @ 10:33 BST, 24 August 2014 - iMsg
So we will be doing a new show next week and we will have a Q&A section. So if you have any questions to ask that we could discuss/answer, post them here and we will use em!
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Horry CHIT >500 IPS perfect tracking (35 comments)
Posted by sta|1n @ 20:12 BST, 23 August 2014 - iMsg
http://gaming.logitech.com/en-ca/product/g402...ming-mouse

Wonder what actually benmarking will look like. Damn shame the G5/400, etc shape is so fucking terrid imo.

They need one of these babies in a g100s.
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looking for a deathadder replacement (8 comments)
Posted by fragmaster_ @ 17:46 BST, 23 August 2014 - iMsg
hi, i've been using my trusty old deathadder since 2009 or 2010, can't remember. it's working fine but i'd like to try a smaller mouse, a bit shorter and narrower would be nice. i gotta have two thumb buttons though. i'm a claw grip with a bit of fingertip mixed in i guess. cloth pad (razer goliathus speed) with a 16cm 360° sens in q3.

here are some mice i've been looking at online:

razer deathadder for reference:
70 x 44 x 127 mm (width x height x length)
105g

razer taipan
63 x 36 x 124 mm
95g

steelseries sensei
68,3 x 38,7 x 125,5 mm
102g

steelseries rival
70 x 45 x 133 mm
128g

zowie fk1
67 x 37 x 128 mm
90g

zowie ec1 evo
70 x 43 x 128 mm
97g

zowie ec2 evo
65 x 40 x 120 mm
93g

other suggestions:
cm alcor
60.4 x 40.2 x 124.8 mm
86

i like razer stuff so i bought a taipan yesterday but returned it just a few mins ago already. the general size is nice but i don't like the edgy shape, didn't work too well with the way i'm holding the mouse. so i'm not sure where to look next.

steelseries sensei (raw) looks nice on paper but i've read a lot of mixed reviews (doesn't work well with cloth pads, hardware mouse accel etc). unfortunately none of the stores close by have it so i can't try it out / hold it in hand anywhere. i tried a steelseries rival but it was way too long for my taste.

no idea about zowie, can't try it out at any stores either and all their mice look the same to me. and judging by the pictures they just looks super cheap. how about mouse accel?

any other suggestions? thanks in advance.
Edited by fragmaster_ at 00:44 BST, 24 August 2014 - 339 Hits
Will Reflex fix CPM gameplay flaws? (172 comments)
Posted by arenaa @ 13:50 BST, 23 August 2014 - iMsg
Hello I am wondering how Reflex will fix some of the main flaws that CPM currently has in its gameplay. Is it gonna be a bit slower than CPM and still have air control or what? When is demo coming out so we can play.

Some thoughts on CPM flaws that have been discussed here before: http://www.esreality.com/post/2293895/2gd-s-reborn/#pid2296684
Edited by arenaa at 22:13 BST, 23 August 2014 - 3636 Hits
10 Years of UT2K4: Division 1 Playoffs (35 comments)
Posted by ShX @ 11:54 BST, 23 August 2014 - iMsg
Scheduled: 15:00 BST, 24 August 2014 to 21:00 BST, 24 August 2014
Schedule: Passed

Time passes by, "10 years of UT2004" $3000 DM 1vs1 event is finishing with division 1 finals beginning at 15:00 BST, 24 August 2014.

The streams will be available 3 hours later (18:00 BST) with Zaccubus and conx5. We'll be on the main page of Twitch @ 19:00 BST, so we are hoping that you will join us in the tournaments celebration with a wider audience! I am also sure there will be UTV servers running. I highly encourage you to join our IRC channel mIRC #cK.ut (on QuakeNet), where you can easily see which matches are being played.


The first round of the Winner Bracket for Division 1 is as follows:
France skAven vs Germany astz
Belgium miNo vs Netherlands Frantic
United Kingdom BeaR vs Austria Falcon
Belgium xOunz vs France zelvzz
France GoHLinK vs United Kingdom asc
Italy stab1lo vs Germany primus
Switzerland ziLL vs Israel viciouz
France ACo vs Germany kiLLzA

Streams: Zaccubus & conx5
Links: Playoffs announcement, Coverage, Division 1 full bracket // mIRC #cK.ut
Edited by wn at 13:07 BST, 24 August 2014 - 1896 Hits
Half Life 2 VR Training (2 comments)
Posted by impulseBE @ 09:47 BST, 23 August 2014 - iMsg
264 Hits
Some editing fun, check the b2r angle (31 comments)
Posted by MisterMystery @ 09:07 BST, 23 August 2014 - iMsg
Edited by MisterMystery at 15:32 BST, 23 August 2014 - 972 Hits
The future of Quake Live (4 comments)
Posted by daytripper @ 02:19 BST, 23 August 2014 - iMsg
The recently leaked update has broken many hearts and rudely put us face to face with the fact that maybe something needs to be done or the long awaited death of Quake might finally become a reality.

Here's my take on the situation.

Quake is not too hard for newbies, it's just a fast paced game. Which means that you get fragged a lot, and quickly. You either like that or you don't, and many don't. But you can't change that aspect of the game or you'd have a different game. Easy to learn, hard to master. Real-time strategy games like LoL require a lot more learning in the beginning.

Back in the day there were few games competing with each other, now there are millions.
Quake has not gotten worse, the competition has gotten bigger, better and more varied.
There's no fix for this, it's just a new reality.

That doesn't mean arena shooters are a dying breed, but it's a breed that will have to content itself with a much much smaller piece of the pie. All a game like Quake can do is find a business model that allows it to survive.

Steam is a good move in that regard: more exposure, more promotion, the ability to do things that would be too hard on one's own - like VAC for example. Changing the game play however is not because then you're trying to fix what isn't broken.

Minor improvements like better matchmaking and anti-cheat are welcome sure, but they will only have a very small effect on the overall popularity of the game; they won't change the fact that more people today prefer to play games like DotA instead of arena shooters like Quake.

Feel free to disagree with the above; but maybe we should focus more on ideas for a survivable business model as opposed to arguing about minor game improvements that won't make a difference in the grand scheme of things.
Edited by daytripper at 03:03 BST, 23 August 2014 - 541 Hits
John Carmack <3 (32 comments)
Posted by He4rTL3sS @ 00:36 BST, 23 August 2014 - iMsg
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ESH ONW #19 QLTDM 2v2 (11 comments)
Posted by doz3r @ 22:26 BST, 22 August 2014 - iMsg
This summer seems slow with the ql Quake Live team action, so it's the right time for some solid TDM 2v2 quick cup. Cup will be held 31 August 2014 at 14:00 BST, with check-ins starting from 13:00 BST.

Check below for all needed informations and sign-up! (If you already have player and clan account on Esports Heaven, feel free to sign-up right away. Otherwise make sure to register yourselves and your clan first.)


Streams: Europe QLTDM Russia Elder_ru Sweden funnyb
Europe luminus
Links: Rules, Sign up (requires ESH account)
Edited by doz3r at 11:33 BST, 28 August 2014 - 2624 Hits
Napalm gun in QL 2.0 confirmed (16 comments)
Posted by Yakumo @ 18:56 BST, 22 August 2014 - iMsg


Just a random texture bug that vid_restart fixes, but still, cool huh :D
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CPU heatsink/fan suggestions? (6 comments)
Posted by skint @ 15:14 BST, 22 August 2014 - iMsg
I'm currently running an AMD 5600k APU with the stock cooller but it seems to be running really hot all the time. I think these APU's do generally run quite warm but this seems too high, talking 75-80c. If I play CS:GO and some other newer (sort of) games it can run them fine but will sometimes freeze and lock up the system which I'm presuming is due to heat. So I'm looking for a really good heatsink/fan to replace the stock cooller around the £20-30 range.

At the moment I've been looking at 2 Cooller Master ones :

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (£25)

Cooler Master Hyper 412S (£30)

Does anyone have any experience with either or have other suggestions?

edit: socket FM2
Edited by skint at 16:42 BST, 22 August 2014 - 236 Hits
Wich sens dpi accel and fov with g100s? (19 comments)
Posted by Veis @ 14:32 BST, 22 August 2014 - iMsg
???
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Random ideas for the steam release (47 comments)
Posted by Infuscomus @ 10:21 BST, 22 August 2014 - iMsg
Okay, the point of this thread is not to discuss the gameplay changes, there are others places for that. I am not part of focus group and have no influence, but I hope SyncError will lurk in here to read at least what I / we say. The thing is, let's try to be positive .

I'd like to bring some ideas as to the beginners experience for the steam release.

First of all, I saw that id implemented some gameplay tip in the new main page design, which I think didn't exist before, and this is a very good thing according to me. Still, this is not enough.

Here is what goes through my mind :

New players need to be introduced to everything step by step.

- The idea of having to fight Crash as an introduction - like it was some years ago when creating a QL account - was okay, but it wasn't effective enough. The two practice levels for strafe jumps and rocket jumps are okay, but I don't remember if there are mini videos for the player to see before he starts the levels. If there are already some videos available (like "click here to see an example") then it's okay. If there are not, it would be a good idea to do so. Actually, I don't know where to find the practice for strafe jumps and rocket jumps with the new design.

- I think it would be cool to make a "weapon training level". Something like small rooms with one weapon only each time, and a fight against a bot or something, along with gameplay tips, so that beginners understand the pros and cons of each weapon. Having the god mode on could be cool. Imagine, you are immortal, there is a door in the room to go through when you are finished with the objective or fed up with the weapon, you just take the weapon in the middle and bots come one by one from somewhere but cannot harm you. Your only concert is to train the weapon. I think this kind of practice would be efficient. The best thing would be to have some awards when finishing the training. I don't know exactly what could be done... but let's say you unlock the Xaero bright models if you go through all weapons rooms, etc.

- Having a timing training arena could also be interesting.

- Now the impossible part I guess... but according to me, QL would benefit from having multiple languages : spanish, russian, german, portuguese, corean, japanese... I already proposed that a long time ago and I remember the reactions weren't really positive ("you only have to know few english words to play in QL", etc.). Well, people may have a point, it's easy to play in QL, but as to understand the gameplay tips and the rest is another thing. I still think younger players would like to have the game in their mother tongue. All big games have multiple language, or am I wrong (I never played LoL) ? I'm not talking about havong new sounds and all in different languages, only the text, the menus, etc. I know I would be okay to translate the game to French for free for instance.

- Perhaps make all modes available for free, but make some of them (I'm thinking of Freeze tag, domination, harvester), unlockable. You play 10 full games of FFA / Duel / CA / CTF, you unlock this, or that, etc., so that beginners don't get lost in tons of modes immediately. In a way, having only certain modes available for free could very much solve the problem too, but maybe having to play to unlock thing could encourage some people, I don't know. I'm not completely sure, just saying.

- Now to make some money, what about having only 5 models available for free accounts, and having the possibility to pay for them for few cents. The idea seems a bit absurd actually, but games like dota and LoL make money with these kind of things (and maybe others but I don't play these games so I'm not in the best position to compare and voice some ideas).

My two cents.What do you think of it, do you have some things to propose ?
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Need confirm my WMO isn't fake one. (4 comments)
Posted by dehumanizer @ 09:57 BST, 22 August 2014 - iMsg
Hey, i've bought a Microsoft WMO 1.1a mice on internet and seller provide that is original MS mice, but i'm not so sure cause it looks kinda otherwise than some WMO's on internet i've seen on photos.

Mice costs 12 euro, it's used one. Here link to photos of my WMO:

[IMG]http://i58.tinypic.com/2e4e076.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i62.tinypic.com/2hy9wmc.jpg[/IMG]

First thing what catch my attention was the usb cable, you can see that it's grey, but ending is black. Look's like it was modificated.

[IMG]http://i60.tinypic.com/2z3nt5v.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i59.tinypic.com/250o2fn.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i58.tinypic.com/11qpbgo.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i61.tinypic.com/rrjtwz.jpg[/IMG]

I hope someone will help me and confirm originality of my WMO.
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Some dumb questions, I need your help! (13 comments)
Posted by He4rTL3sS @ 01:08 BST, 22 August 2014 - iMsg
So, currently I'm playing with the DA 2K13 and I really like this mouse BUT, like you probably already know, I also have a krait 2k13, which I like a lot too.

Its been some months now that I play with the DA and so far I haven't noticed any major flaw in this mouse. I feel comfortable with it. BUT. Do you think that I would play better with a lighter/smaller mouse ? I know that some people like winz and l1nkin don't like big and heavy mice. For example, l1nkin tried the roccat kone pure optical, and he said the mouse is simply to heavy and big. Now he's playing with a wmoadder.

Concerning myself, I don't find the DA to be too big or heavy. Like I said I feel comfortable with it, and I like the sides grips a lot.

So yeah, it's a dumb question but still, do you think that I should switch back to the krait 2k13 and forget big mice for ever ? Or should I stick with the DA ? Yes, I know, after writing all of this I probably already got the answer, which would be to stick with the DA.
But everytime at night, in my head it's like "omg I miss the krait a bit, should I play with it again ? But ffs I also like a lot the DA, so I think that I will stick with." And the next night the same question remains lol.

I also know that hal is using an IE 3.0, and cooller an EC1 evo cl, which are very close mice to the DA 2k13. Maybe I should copy them and stick with the DA ? :D But FFS the krait is an awesome mouse too...

CAN'T DECIDE! HELP!
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GEN1US Pad vs Mouse (20 comments)
Posted by GEN1US @ 00:15 BST, 22 August 2014 - iMsg
Hey guys !
Happy to post here again,ti been a while :)
Still doing my best to get pad esport play popular hehe :)
Things are getting better and better im very happy with everything.

Proud to show my new pad on pc vidéo.
Counter-Strike : Global Offensive played with a Xbox One on PC
in a training server well known from best player.
Grab your pads ! ( And mouses of course :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCrkmp1Ya1g
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Got Banned.. Why ? lol (93 comments, locked)
Posted by exer @ 22:37 BST, 21 August 2014 - iMsg
So I got banned,... Dunno reason... My premium expired today, and got banned ? didnt played for 15 days.. maybe 1-2 games last few days... I cant get to my quake mail to see what is reaason.. how to find out?
Locked by Teen Queen at 19:21 BST, 26 August 2014 - 2747 Hits
quake live muzic duel msi strenx vs srs (3 comments)
Posted by kevlark @ 22:19 BST, 21 August 2014 - iMsg
One of the first my works. Maybe someone have not seen yet.
I had not focused on this work. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6xZo0sfOM#t=18
Link for download 60fps, withowt youtube compression, 653mb http://yadi.sk/d/1rfp96Zz2f8_e
Edited by kevlark at 22:21 BST, 21 August 2014 - 378 Hits
Giving away Battlefield 4 keys (52 comments)
Posted by memph1s_ @ 22:04 BST, 21 August 2014 - iMsg
*ESR STAFF* Please read note near the end of this post

I have a big batch of Battlefield 4 keys to give away, courtesy of AMD. Quite a batch. I'd give them out to anyone who wants them, but for the sake of accounting/validation I need to have a record to prove to them later, so I'll need whoever wants them to go through a short process. Just check this thread:

http://www.gaming420.com/thread-7323.html

There's multiple ways of getting the keys but you're only required to use any one method and you'll get a key sent to you. Yes, you can actually use more than one to get more keys lol
The easiest method for both you and me would be to just post a reply to that thread and wait for a PM, though that will require an account. Please be patient if you haven't received your key since I have to manually fetch, type and send to each person, and as you can imagine it's a mess.

Don't forget to follow the instructions. Yes, you will have to go through a dull little form but it'll get you a free Origin code! :>
The keys expire on the 30th of this month, and I don't want them to go to waste, so spread the word if you like.

I'd appreciate some plusses :D

*NOTE* I have no intentions of advertising and that is not what I am using this post for. I have a big bunch of keys and apart from using our own social channels, I figured posting here would be nice for the guys here. I like ESR :3
If this post is considered advertising/spam then please PM me and feel free to remove it.
Edited by memph1s_ at 22:04 BST, 21 August 2014 - 1086 Hits
QLRanks.com userscript updated (6 comments)
Posted by PredatH0r @ 21:22 BST, 21 August 2014 - iMsg
Now shows the average Elo of team red, blue and overall (excluding specs). If the average Elo on the server is within +/- 150 of your own, the Join button turns green.

The sorting can be changed with "/elo sort=x", where x can be:
ql: standard QL sorting (by teams, then by score)
team: by team, then by Elo
elo: by Elo (red/blue mixed up)

[Edit]Yakumo made me do it, it was all his idea![/Edit]

Edited by PredatH0r at 21:39 BST, 21 August 2014 - 329 Hits
Carmack 2.0: John Carmack’s son releases (6 comments)
Posted by Hookinsu @ 19:36 BST, 21 August 2014 - iMsg
http://www.itworld.com/cloud-computing/432277...first-game

Dunno if people here care about Carmack, but i thought it might be worth a share, for the lols, didnt find it here in my 5 second search...if its alrdy here, w/e. <3
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Come and find joys in Get5! (1 comment)
Posted by tohapply @ 03:30 BST, 21 August 2014 - iMsg
Get5 is a world leading andriod store. Our mission is to keep our users informed about the latest fashion of applilcations. Aside from the latest fashion, Get5 is also one of the most useful tools for managing smartphone existing on the internet. Always wanting to enhance the meaning of what it is to be the one-stop store for applications, Get5 has provided users with unique and powerful systems allowing them to easily find what they really need, compare search system, intelligent match system, update and uninstall system and much more.

Features

1. Massive FREE green resource for download
2. Intelligent recommendation system to fit your taste
3. Powerful search engine with 3 different ways to find what you need
4. Fastest downloading experience to save your time
5. Amazing local and on-line events with the great PRIZES

Take a look at the Get5 trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5-E-_kSxnY&feature=share
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USB vs. PS2 Keyboards (12 comments)
Posted by SightUp @ 00:50 BST, 21 August 2014 - iMsg
I just bought a Poker II. I didn't know it didn't support PS2 ports even through an adapter. But even an adapter would add latency right? Ugh. So should I return it or are USB keyboards fine to game on?
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Lightning Gun question (76 comments)
Posted by Hookinsu @ 00:31 BST, 21 August 2014 - iMsg
Does the Sensitivity actually affect the LG? Since people say its all about strafing and to not move the mouse.

But how does it come that people then say that low sens would be best for lg, if those tutorials always tell me to learn to aim with "A+D" (and moving the mouse while aiming too much was bad)

Are there also any good videos of decent lg players where you can see how much they use there mouse in lg fights?

Thanks =)
Edited by Hookinsu at 00:31 BST, 21 August 2014 - 2492 Hits
cypher & other live action at quakecon (15 comments)
Posted by reply_to_#1 @ 23:05 BST, 20 August 2014 - iMsg
i know i haven't been the only one holding out for over the shoulder vids like this. as usual, shitty quality...

thanks to the person who took and uploaded them.

cypher

zero4

rapha1

rapha2
Edited by reply_to_#1 at 10:51 BST, 21 August 2014 - 877 Hits
Thresh on Live On Three 200th episode (9 comments)
Posted by Venser @ 22:45 BST, 20 August 2014 - iMsg
Thresh will be one of the guests on the tomorrow's special 200th LO3 episode.

https://twitter.com/LiveOnThree/status/502182774766583808

Guest #1: Thresh
Guest #2: Brian Kibler (MTG champion)
Guest #3: TBA
Guest #4: TBA
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Mouse lag (28 comments)
Posted by tommix @ 18:52 BST, 20 August 2014 - iMsg
Hey ESL, please some advice to fix this: feels like mouse responds with some delay, looks like 30 FPS game, totally unplayable (lol lg firing).

Hardware:

BenQ XL2411
SteelSeries Kinzu v2 Pro Edition

Settings:

displayrefresh 144Hz
resolution - native
com_maxfps 250
com_idlesleep 0
in_mouse 2
m_filter 0 (feels like 1 with 200 ms ping)
nVidia drivers default
swapinterval 0
mouse settings in windows default
cg_filter_angles 0


What was done to fix it (100 times):

cvar_restart / vid_restart / new cfg exec / vid_restart
in_mouse 1 / 2; in_restart
nVidia 3D settings configuring
nVidia drivers newer/older versions installing
mouse engine drivers installing/uninstalling
mouse firmware update (was helpful some time ago, this time no effect and couldn't update couple of times)
all found mousefix regfiles used - no effect.

I thought the reason in non-native resolution used before and some due to scaling input lags, but it was fine on any r_mode before this problem. Looks like everything is ok with cfg, monitor and videocard settings, but something wrong with mouse.

Also I remember that this problem disappeared couple of times but not sure that I made something for fixing.

Please some help to configuring/fixing this, it pisses me off, I definitely sure that you all know what I mean: effect like truelightning 0.5, ping 200, filter_angels 100, fps 30
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Quake Live Matchmaking Demo (115 comments)
Posted by bamze @ 18:49 BST, 20 August 2014 - iMsg
Hi guys,

i was reading a lot about the upcomming changes and was thinking a lot and i dislike them a lot as well.

I was wondering how hard can it be to programm an working match-making system and why they dont put effort into it? So i was sitting down here like 3 hours and made this:

http://qlmm.gameboni.com/

Its using qlranks ELO to find the best possible match for you.

Check it out, ofc it sucks because its 3rd party and u cant directly join a server per click. BUT i think if they would display something like his in their offical serverbrowser it would be a lot easier to find balanced matches. And if I can do this in 3 hours, they could do as well. They could even use some more hours and put their own elo counter into it to be independent.

ofc Match Making for Teammodes is a bit harder, but why cant they just make it work. I mean they code this new shit since 2 month and dont have 2 days time to programm an match making system - which definitely would help to grow the playerbase a lot more than just simplify the game and piss off most of its existing playerbase.

What do you think?

Regards.
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Unreal Tournament Live Stream: Today (No comments)
Posted by chumbo @ 17:57 BST, 20 August 2014 - iMsg
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When were you introduced to quake? (165 comments)
Posted by tom @ 17:52 BST, 20 August 2014 - iMsg
1996 baby!
1997-1999
2000-2005
2006-2010
2011-noob
I don't qwake

  (view results, discard poll)
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extraQL 1.6 released (15 comments)
Posted by PredatH0r @ 17:37 BST, 20 August 2014 - iMsg
Download

[Edit]
Version 1.6
- to prevent startup crashes, the Windows Crypto API is no longer used, when not running in HTTPS mode
- fixed web requests timing out on Vista/Win7 64bit (workaround for a .NET bug on that OS)
- fixed UI scaling when using large system fonts or DPI settings
- fixed "jumping" window when moving it under Linux/Wine (thx [id]Sponge for the solution!)
[/Edit]

Version 1.5
- fixed Windows Crypto API crash on startup for Win XP/2003 (and maybe other Versions too)
- added extraQL.exe self-updater, so after 1.5 you don't need to download new versions manually anymore
- fixed slow update/download of userscripts
- included Alt Browser script

Edited by PredatH0r at 22:34 BST, 20 August 2014 - 946 Hits
Playoffs: division 2 matches (10 comments)
Posted by ShX @ 16:20 BST, 20 August 2014 - iMsg
Welcome into playoffs of "10 years of UT2004" $3,000 DM 1vs1 tournament!


We are starting tonight at 17:00 BST with division 2 playoffs. For the updates or changes or even for streams, stay around #cK.ut @ QuakeNet. The first round of WinnerBracket for 2nd division is as followed:
France Jester vs United Kingdom dylan
Hungary aud vs Hungary aljAs
Germany dWr vs Netherlands M1kom@n
Denmark lo2dk vs Russia Cold-M
Hungary Sulaco vs Switzerland Kane274
Italy devilmc vs Croatia BaSS3_KiCK
Russia alcgainer vs Ireland kRoNic
Germany jani vs Russia Roy
Let the battle begin! Hopefully to see you around also for the other divisions playoffs!

Streams: Sibior
Links: Playoffs announcement, Coverage, Division 2 full bracket
IRC channel: #cK.ut @ QuakeNet
Edited by ShX at 17:12 BST, 20 August 2014 - 1151 Hits

<< Comment #1 @ 00:09 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Finland Danskie 
Why is makaveli in that poll?

since hes already back in quake :)
<< Comment #5 @ 00:23 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #1
Some of the other players are also playing QL at the moment, such as cha0ticz I believe, however, it is nowhere near the competitive scene and as such a comeback could be in order. If Makaveli has made a comeback to the competitive scene and I missed it then he should be removed though :)
Edited by Paladia at 01:17 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #6 @ 00:27 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Quake mbc  - Reply to #5
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1772113 though not quite there yet :)
Edited by rift at 05:18 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #8 @ 00:41 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Czech Republic LukKe  - Reply to #6
you can hardly call that a "comeback to the competitive scene"
<< Comment #250 @ 07:24 GMT, 1 November 2009 >>
By stermy bubble_ru  - Reply to #8
He is comeback, like Immortal was comeback for Quake IV lol.
<< Comment #117 @ 17:17 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #6
There's also the russian makaveli, don't know which one the poll is refering too. But the russian makaveli was really good.
-Edit- Looks like he is active again , and still pretty decent looking at his matches -> Rush3Dmakaveli
Edited by Linchpin at 17:23 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #120 @ 17:43 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #117
He's never not been active.
<< Comment #122 @ 18:11 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #120
good to know :)
<< Comment #173 @ 00:12 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr  - Reply to #117
he is not good because even i win him
<< Comment #317 @ 17:47 BST, 29 September 2010 >>
By USSR Lowbird  - Reply to #117
yeah hes average or maybe above with game time
<< Comment #2 @ 00:10 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Czech Republic LukKe 
way2ez4czm!
btw "uNkind" :p
<< Comment #3 @ 00:10 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By United States of America char 
czm or unkind

speaking of zero4 comeback:

http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/summary/ZeRo4
<< Comment #4 @ 00:21 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By terran timmah 
Who is elpajuo? Never heard of that guy
<< Comment #9 @ 01:03 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Aragón tzz  - Reply to #4
Best CPM player in the US a few years ago, he played in the CXG and did really good (he had to play cooller in the WB finals but the even was shut down iirc) then disappeared a few years later and his family came here searching for help.
<< Comment #12 @ 01:34 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #9
Lost to cooller in the WB Semi final 2-1 (Won pro-q3dm6 if I recall correctly). Cooller then beat ZeRo4 in the WB Final 2-1 but the event was shut-down before the LB final between ZeRo4 and elp could be played (I think).

I think he was at QLAN2 as well.
Edited by iNkind at 01:34 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #13 @ 01:59 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #12
the event was shut-down before the LB final between ZeRo4 and elp could be played (I think).
They started playing T4 and when the score was 8-8 between them as network died for good. The organizers didn't care anymore at that point but the players wanted to proceed, regardless of the cash (which was never payed out in the end). So they connected Zero4s computer directly to elpajuo, however, the organizers then proceeded to shut down all power as well, so there wasn't much for them to do.

Hence all three, cooller, z4 and elpajuo are considered tied as #1 for that event.
Edited by Paladia at 01:59 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #14 @ 02:09 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #13
They agreed to be 1>2>3 qlr>z4>elp.
<< Comment #15 @ 02:38 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #14
That's not how I remember it, I'm quite sure they all considered themselves as tied #1 and decided to split all money and hardware.

Why would z4 be ahead of elpajuo when they only played one map which ended 8-8?
<< Comment #27 @ 10:34 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #15
WB Final.
<< Comment #33 @ 12:23 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #27
The final was to be between cooller and the winner of z4/elp (which was never finished). So how was z4 ranked ahead of elp? Regardless, you are mistaken, the official (and inofficial) results were as follows:

Duel Results:
1 - tied. Anton 'cooller' Singov (Moscow, Russia)
1 - tied. Alejandro 've-elpajuo' Gonzales (Venezuela)
1 - tied. John 'ZeRo4' Hill (San Diego, California)
4. Sean 'Daler' Price (Austin, Texas)
5 - tied. Paul 'czm' Nelson (Massachussetts)
5 - tied. Jared 'cha0tics' Cugno (Boston, Massachussets)
<< Comment #34 @ 12:25 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #33
Because z4 was in the winner bracket final and elp was in the semi.

I recall them agreeing to share the money (whether it got paid or not) split 1. qlr 2. z4 3. elp.

But anyway, it doesn't really matter and there's next to no accurate coverage of cXg anywhere and the ESR search function is beyond hopeless.
Edited by iNkind at 12:27 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #38 @ 17:55 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #34
No z4 and elp had already started playing their match when the servers were shut down.
<< Comment #40 @ 18:08 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #38
I realise that, but the match wasn't finished and like you said it was a tie.
<< Comment #97 @ 10:23 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #42 @ 18:20 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #33
due to serious major tournament shortage, he has a physical need to count cxg as something cooller won, don't take it away from him :D
<< Comment #26 @ 10:11 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Aragón tzz  - Reply to #12
Ah, yes, that sounds about right.
<< Comment #257 @ 07:53 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #12
I think he finished second at Qlan2 (cpm tournament).
Rat won, elpa 2nd, toxter third and snapcase fourth I think.

He played in the vq3 tournament also, but didn't do as well compared to the cpm one :)
<< Comment #289 @ 18:32 GMT, 15 November 2009 >>
rat played in the vq3 tournament as well. If I remember correctly he didn't lose cpm1a to anyone.
<< Comment #290 @ 21:50 GMT, 15 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #289
I think that's correct. He was quite lucky that cpm1a got picked for the vq3 tournament :D
<< Comment #20 @ 06:53 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Frags medal crv  - Reply to #4
one of the best dm6 player
<< Comment #54 @ 19:35 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #20
please cut off those retro stats!
<< Comment #55 @ 19:38 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By badys tshirt Badb0y  - Reply to #4
elpa had a really unique AGRESSIVE style, nice to watch.
<< Comment #104 @ 15:22 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #55
RJ binds :DD
<< Comment #143 @ 08:49 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #55
Whenever I watched him move around, especially on DM6, he would do some things that seemed completely crazy or doomed to failure. They always seemed to pay off, though.

One time he did the standard bridge to rail and it seemed obvious he was going to miss. He managed to air-control himself over farther than seemed possible like it was nothing. Also he would regularly dive down onto players where it would seem they would shaft him to death before he hit ground but it never seemed to cause him any trouble.
<< Comment #297 @ 16:07 GMT, 21 November 2009 >>
By Netherlands Terifire  - Reply to #143
One time he did the standard bridge to rail and it seemed obvious he was going to miss. He managed to air-control himself over farther than seemed possible like it was nothing.

Want to see this:D
<< Comment #318 @ 14:00 BST, 30 September 2010 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #297
He did a lot of that stuff from what I saw, some of the most enteraining movement ever for sure! he is missed ;<
<< Comment #99 @ 10:33 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Unset gnarf  - Reply to #4
d:D
<< Comment #174 @ 00:13 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr  - Reply to #99
:D
<< Comment #105 @ 15:23 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #4
only south american quaker to "make it big" afaik. Loved watching him play though.
<< Comment #167 @ 20:10 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Greece MaJunior  - Reply to #105
you forget reef, the Fatal1ty killer :D
<< Comment #194 @ 18:41 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Sweden phaces  - Reply to #4
...alias elputo...he´s gg :)
<< Comment #7 @ 00:37 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By United States of America erok 
would like to see how fatal1ty would fair
<< Comment #10 @ 01:09 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Poland mefajpE^ 
czm - smarter choice. great personality, amazing player.
<< Comment #11 @ 01:32 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind 
<uNkind>
<< Comment #16 @ 02:39 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz 
For me, unkind would be most fun to watch in qlive with his rockets.

But the hype for fat, czm or tox matches would make for fun spectacting too.
<< Comment #17 @ 03:18 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands QuiXilver 
Zero4!
<< Comment #18 @ 04:22 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By wc3_undead mammon 
Sujoy but that won't happen.
xext toxjq, not likely but he would be a top contender if he had the time to put in
third probably Fatality or czm, the mappool suits american playstyle at the moment with t9 and t7
<< Comment #19 @ 06:35 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_ 
I voted for PELE cus I remember watching his old demos and being in awe about his interesting style. Most people probably don't remember him. He played a lot like unkind, just years before unkind was in the scene. Really smart and killer rox.

I don't think there is enough $ out there to motivate most of these people back. When you get older and have more responsibilities, it is impossible to put in the time required to be a top tier quake player. You have to choose to either dedicate your time to a game that nobody follows or do something real with your life.
Edited by JayDee_ at 06:40 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #300 @ 18:57 GMT, 29 November 2009 >>
By SpawnRaped anal justice  - Reply to #19
this guy had the most unusual binds and I am not talking about smileys and such :)
<< Comment #21 @ 06:53 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Frags medal crv 
Unkind
<< Comment #22 @ 07:26 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks 
Sujoy. To this site \o/
<< Comment #23 @ 07:27 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
PELE was really good n1 for 2 years in rus... top 5 of that list imho zero4 unkind pele fatality lexer or lakerman
<< Comment #59 @ 20:06 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By heart rockz  - Reply to #23
no czm? shame on u
<< Comment #24 @ 07:37 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
daler chaoticz socrates makaveli blokey - why we need to see their comaback if we have rapha now =)... polos blue stelam were really interesting players but not really top imho... 9.sujoy 9.doomer(doomer 34 years old now) not sure that they can to play realy good nowdays.. and about thresh - it would be absolutly fantastic if we will see his comaback but so interesting... but of course i wanne see totally comaback of all players in that list =)
<< Comment #85 @ 05:26 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By ezQuake focus  - Reply to #24
Holy hell it's Alchemist03.

DUDE. Stop learning english, it's ruining the fun :(
<< Comment #197 @ 10:33 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By eldvakt LoCK  - Reply to #85
I WANT TO SEE TOTALLY COMABACK!
<< Comment #25 @ 08:41 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By zerg vedic 
I miss czm's cheesy antics. =(
<< Comment #28 @ 10:41 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke 
czm
<< Comment #29 @ 10:41 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany cYmoZz 
fatality + toxic
<< Comment #267 @ 11:05 GMT, 3 November 2009 >>
By US-California Venim  - Reply to #29
exactly what i'd like to see
<< Comment #30 @ 11:05 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Finland duumed 
there are so many great players i'd like to come back since i wasn't following q3 in the first few years and didn't get to see them in action.

voted for czm
<< Comment #31 @ 11:52 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone 
Fatal1ty will add legitimacy and glamour to tournaments. He will probably bring more sponsorship to Quakelive just by competing.
<< Comment #32 @ 12:07 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden ArchaiK 
toxjq wihout a doubt. tox and fox 2v2 would make be spray things all over the screen.
<< Comment #35 @ 12:32 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Poland tifu 
it's really hard to pick only one, so i went with toxjq as i think he could come back and really compete. i'm not so sure about rest of those guys - they got old :P, moved on or just might not have time...
<< Comment #36 @ 13:52 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia ambro 
thresh comeback with a ferrari on quakecon :)
<< Comment #45 @ 18:29 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cyronix  - Reply to #36
he sold it afaik
<< Comment #175 @ 14:32 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By dollar zoinks  - Reply to #45
Did Carmack buy it back? :D
<< Comment #37 @ 16:58 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Finland Tzeentch 
LeXeR!

\o/
<< Comment #39 @ 18:03 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By wc3_human DamianLillard 
I picked fat because you know he's gonna actually practice unlike the rest of these lazy bums
<< Comment #46 @ 18:33 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By terran timmah  - Reply to #39
Most of them practice, they all just tell different degrees of lies about the time.

But I guess time put in is not the only factor that will decide level of play.
Edited by timmah at 18:38 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #91 @ 08:33 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By wc3_human DamianLillard  - Reply to #46
Yeah that's what I meant, that all of them would stop playing completely between official tournaments! a gift for you

http://www.tynansanger.com/uploaded_images/sa...710628.jpg

[img1]
Edited by Vernon Schillinger at 08:34 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #41 @ 18:12 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Italy exp! 
crazyman e toxjq
<< Comment #43 @ 18:22 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe 
ain't gonna vote zero4 cause he probably has no motivation whatsoever to play again.


but i vote fatal1ty, cause fat returning to play would promote ql more than anything.


+ czm, ql fits his style
Edited by Lethe at 18:28 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #47 @ 18:46 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #43
Suits uNkind more!
<< Comment #48 @ 18:51 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #47
unkind is so...2002 =(
<< Comment #49 @ 18:53 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #48
Can't believe z4 only has one vote.
<< Comment #51 @ 19:16 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #49
probably everyone watched his latest demo :D
<< Comment #88 @ 07:42 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz  - Reply to #49
Only cause they got to see him play last year - so not much of a comeback
<< Comment #44 @ 18:29 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cyronix 
fatal1ty + thresh,

thresh will never come back though,
and fat will only come if there is some more money.
<< Comment #50 @ 18:59 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Six16 
I picked Fatality because id like to see how good he is now compared to the likes of rapha etc..

but id also like to see Lexer, stelam, blue and Lakerman come back..

Also, list needs Stelam adding :)
Edited by d3c4y at 18:59 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #52 @ 19:31 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #50
er?
<< Comment #64 @ 21:40 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Six16  - Reply to #52
er, well i was thinking it was a ninja edit, but seems its not, i didnt see :)
<< Comment #53 @ 19:32 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd 
slinger, kane, american makaveli, menendez, if22, pele,unholy (anyone remembers him?! :-D ) gogogo :p

i'd like to see fat and stelam if ive to choose tho,,,
Edited by lizahd at 19:33 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #60 @ 20:07 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By heart rockz  - Reply to #53
what do u enjoy on if22?
<< Comment #62 @ 20:51 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #60
in his early days, like until cpl holland he wasnt +back at all :P
<< Comment #66 @ 22:08 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Weird  - Reply to #62
wow someone who remembers if-22 not being +back.....
you might have a really good memory... or a really bad one. (I for one don't remember who played how before cpl holland Oo)
<< Comment #89 @ 07:44 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz  - Reply to #53
Imagine the joy of watching if22 +back t9 to defend a 1 frag lead :)
<< Comment #320 @ 11:56 BST, 14 April 2011 >>
By CSS Furball  - Reply to #53
i'd rather see Dta back than if-22 =)

Phear the HPB Rail biatch! (unholy) =]
<< Comment #56 @ 19:39 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Weird 
pfffffff, this should be allowed to vote on multiple persons....
Most of them would be really nice...

But I'm so torn between players I admired :(
voted for DOOMer though cuz he was the least voted for on the list of those ppl... and someone above wrote that makaveli is already back ;)
<< Comment #58 @ 19:44 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #56
i claim most of the list startet ql at least once :PPP
<< Comment #57 @ 19:44 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By djogedj h8m3 
LeXeR!
<< Comment #61 @ 20:30 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip 
wanna see unkind & lexer back
<< Comment #63 @ 21:31 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By United States of America paulrrrr 
czm all the way.
<< Comment #84 @ 05:18 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Canada efassd  - Reply to #63
Hi czm.
<< Comment #65 @ 22:01 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Thorin 
It actually blows my mind that Blue has 3% and unkind 16%. Fuck is wrong with you people?
<< Comment #67 @ 22:25 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Austria noctis  - Reply to #65
rather see unkind play since i've already seen enough of blue in ql :p
<< Comment #68 @ 22:25 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #65
GTFO
<< Comment #150 @ 15:49 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #65
I slightly agree. Blue was really amazing in his prime q3 days, but his q4 days were not REALLY amazing. It was still nice to see him of course, but he couldn't threat the top players. I know he plays some QL, but just for fun I assume...
<< Comment #69 @ 23:01 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Swedish Shaft torz 
Fatal1ty for QL's sake, Toxic for my sake <3
<< Comment #70 @ 23:56 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
Lakerman, babe, Lakerman
!

[ed] the list is kinda ridiculous, because many guys here did not retire for good -for example fatality, it is a well know fact the moment there will be big money prizes mister Anderson will be back, toxjq also played last year, and you miss him already?
Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 00:01 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #76 @ 01:22 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #70
Well, they retired from the competitive Quake scene (which they all were a part of earlier) and thus could come back to it again.
Edited by Paladia at 01:23 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #82 @ 03:49 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #76
I would not call a year or two of inactivity, retirement. Even if it is technically retirement, as long as we've seen them not too much time ago, it's not enough to call it in a joy, the great return of the dark knight.
To be more specific, my daughter went down from our bed in the morning, and in the evening she was climbing it again, fully enthusiastic, I would not call what she was doing today, a truly retirement.
Same love story.
<< Comment #71 @ 00:21 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex 
Impossible to make a decision. I want czm, Thresh, LakermaN and toxic back. Z4muZ is missing, and I want All*Nirvana to play a lot and show his skill internationally for real.
<< Comment #72 @ 00:23 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #71
Ali Naab is missing too
<< Comment #73 @ 00:32 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #72
Never heard of him.. :P
<< Comment #74 @ 00:38 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #73
=(
unpossible
<< Comment #75 @ 01:20 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #71
Z4muZ isn't missing as he's already doing a comeback. He's playing for excello, participated in the QL Quick Cup and has signed up for Dreamhack.
Edited by Paladia at 01:20 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #77 @ 01:29 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #75
Yeah, I was told after I wrote it :) I'm not really paying attention these days. His stats on QL seems good, hope he attends a big tourney soon.
<< Comment #78 @ 01:32 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #77
Didn't you read the Dreamhack part? :) It's the second biggest QL tournament if you count how many good players that are participating. Unfortunately I don't think he has enough time to prepare properly for it but will be great to see him in action again.
<< Comment #79 @ 02:06 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #78
Hm, no I didn't. When is Dreamhack? It would be nice to go there and photograph for ESR :)

Edit: I found it, starts on my birthday, if I read it right, 26th of November. It will be fun to watch :)

Edit 2: I'm checking traveling costs to see if I can do it, it would have been awesome :D Specially since in 2002 or 2003 I ended up not being able to go to QLAN :)
Edited by netrex at 02:21 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #258 @ 08:06 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #79
come! :D
I'll fix you up with a press-pass if you can make it!
<< Comment #80 @ 03:02 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Uruguay gSTRUCTOR 
Easy one, fat ofc, it would be "HUGE"(c)2GD for QL.
<< Comment #81 @ 03:13 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By USSR s3cco 
rat
<< Comment #83 @ 03:50 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #81
damn rats, always scattering in the shadows, making me jumpy!...
<< Comment #86 @ 05:36 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Germany butchji 
toxjq and SteLam :)
<< Comment #87 @ 07:39 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
Fatality is the one who could most realistically make a comeback and be a force in tournaments. Video games are supposed to be his full time job, right?
<< Comment #94 @ 09:07 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #87
and not for those for those other pro gamers who play 6-8 hours easily a day?
Edited by confusion at 09:07 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #126 @ 20:03 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
For $3000 every 6 months? lol.
<< Comment #90 @ 08:11 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Latvia fuzz 
czm and socrates
<< Comment #92 @ 08:48 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden azmo 
Shub of course ;)
<< Comment #130 @ 21:31 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Fejl(Folklore)  - Reply to #92
That would be really cool:P
<< Comment #93 @ 09:03 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By ^__^ bl4ze 
wombat
<< Comment #95 @ 09:13 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
crezyman for hub
ZeRo4 for t4
<< Comment #96 @ 09:14 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
lexer, unkind, pele, socrates :(
<< Comment #98 @ 10:31 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
Someone else: 0.6% (1)3)

-Forever
-iF-22

Dutch glory!
<< Comment #100 @ 14:43 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #98
I'm pretty sure forever is still playing =). Or do you mean as a dueller?
<< Comment #115 @ 16:51 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #100
Yeah I meant if he would make a comeback in the 'programing scene'.
<< Comment #202 @ 19:02 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Quake 3 loveless  - Reply to #115
i wanna see some more chairs thrown
COME BACK FOREVER!
<< Comment #101 @ 14:44 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius 
stelam and whole sk back for tdm =)
<< Comment #102 @ 15:10 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #101
dont you prefer unmatched?
<< Comment #119 @ 17:25 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #102
well, no, since kane is my favorite player and he needs to be in it! =). (so that's stelam, kane, zyz, neok)
<< Comment #121 @ 17:44 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #119
Slinger not neok! (Not to bash neok of course)
<< Comment #124 @ 19:05 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #121
nah! I always felt slinger was the 'weakest link' in the unmatched days.
<< Comment #146 @ 13:54 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop?  - Reply to #124
now that's odd. i suggest to watch some of the old demos which clearly show that sl1nger was one of (if not THE) the key players in unmatched's (or SK's) success. i always felt that neok was the "weakest" individual player in that team. all in all those guys were awesome together and seeing them again would be a pleasure. especially from a german perspective since we pretty much only have k1llsen nowadays.
Edited by Loop? at 13:57 GMT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #149 @ 15:40 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #146
hmm, and it seems SK was mostly kane, stelam, slinger & para anyways, so I'd pick that team then.
I always thought slinger had often the worst NET/the most deaths. Gonna check some demos for sure! The good ol' days damned, I want them back ='(
<< Comment #153 @ 16:45 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #149
Kane was their "star" player, every time I've faced them he was always way ahead of the others. Even the maps they lost he was usually ahead of most of our players :)
<< Comment #181 @ 00:45 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop?  - Reply to #149
probably slinger was too busy yelling at his teammates for getting fragged on these occasions :D anyway, would be awesome to see some high profile tdm back, fully agree.
<< Comment #196 @ 10:07 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Germany torfteufel  - Reply to #146
if you still have demos showing u or sk play tdm, esp. stelam pov ofcourse :DD
PLS UP THEM TO THE AGP WEBPAGE !!
vote for stelam btw :]
<< Comment #162 @ 18:43 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany butchji  - Reply to #119
Kane is a professional football player nowadays. :)
He plays in the 2nd League in Germany.
<< Comment #164 @ 19:49 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #162
so he transformed his quake dodging and hitting skills into football :)
<< Comment #171 @ 23:26 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #162
yes I know, and he seems to be in the team quite a lot too.

http://www.rwo-online.de/saison/rwo/kader.php?show=574
<< Comment #103 @ 15:11 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By 011 nemecel 
Is uNkind alive?
<< Comment #106 @ 15:38 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo Liam 
voted for unborn
<< Comment #107 @ 16:03 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #112 @ 16:27 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #107
I don't really use that account (that was my 1st and only game) as I like to play in peace/quiet and have a good time. That's what happens when you get old... you like quiet, haha! Especially sometimes when I come home in the evening after a few drinks...

I could always play Counter-strike when I had some liquor, but quake, oh boy... all over the place with some alcohol, haha.

I need to get rid of this monitor though... 25 ms response time and only 72 Hz LCD.... hehe -- I don't know how much it is gimping me, but from what I've been told, it is pretty bad.

I am trying to get Unholy, immortal, and some of my other friends to start playing again though.
Edited by K9-makaveli at 16:38 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #118 @ 17:22 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #112
your russian nemesis is still active :D, see link.
Rush3Dmakaveli
Edited by Linchpin at 21:01 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #136 @ 23:49 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #112
Hell yeah, you should try and form a tdm clan, atleast that you can still play for laughs without it taking too much time. Although I've heard tdm isn't big in the US atm :(
<< Comment #137 @ 01:42 BST, 25 October 2009 >>
By 005 poindexter  - Reply to #136
Get the rest of Deathrow out of the rest home and back in ql...
<< Comment #108 @ 16:14 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #109 @ 16:16 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
No immortal on the list? ='-(
<< Comment #110 @ 16:21 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #109
He made a comeback in Q4 and didn't do all that great, not terrible by any means but not really that impressive.
<< Comment #111 @ 16:25 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #110
That's because I wasn't practicing with him!!! =) hehe
<< Comment #113 @ 16:48 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #111
woow you're back nice. always enjoyed watching your demos.
still play with that high sense?
<< Comment #116 @ 16:58 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #113
I think I'm just twitchy.. not really the sensitivity.
<< Comment #123 @ 18:17 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #116
move unholy here asap!!! :)
<< Comment #125 @ 19:07 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By pirate mkeiy  - Reply to #109
lol that guy was a fucking drop kick
<< Comment #201 @ 17:06 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #109
An immy comeback would be cool. I always thought his style was unique and strange. He had slow clumsy movement, but could out aim everybody by a great margin. He would hit crazy rails in ql.
<< Comment #230 @ 15:16 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #232 @ 15:38 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #230
Nope
<< Comment #114 @ 16:51 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
1. Fatality or Toxic
<< Comment #127 @ 20:29 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cyronix 
From Wikipedia (last sentence in the article about fat):
Has recently become a Full Tilt Poker Pro using his tag.

It seems 90 % of the progamers become pokerplayers after their gaming career.
<< Comment #128 @ 20:36 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #127
No education, no skills.

Poker awaits...
<< Comment #148 @ 15:38 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #128
I told him to go to college and not rely on the gaming stuff...

Hope he listened to me.
<< Comment #165 @ 19:50 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #148
Fatal1ty made a lot of money with gaming and he is now a business man who promotes his own products. Why should he go to college?
<< Comment #169 @ 22:35 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #165
Because he had to sell out and still has a quite unreliable job, it's nothing to raise a family or buy a house with, nothing in pro gaming is imo.
<< Comment #195 @ 20:57 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #169
This......
<< Comment #207 @ 01:17 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Vo0  - Reply to #169
But...but...he's a millionaire.
<< Comment #214 @ 15:07 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #207
:D You want your own smug face on those motherboards?
<< Comment #268 @ 11:10 GMT, 3 November 2009 >>
By US-California Venim  - Reply to #207
you should be on this list too btw
<< Comment #303 @ 14:15 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #169
its not unreliable. this comment is true ignorance. Are you his tax accountant? You actually know his income?

He's made. And i don't even agree with how he did it either.
Edited by Cloud at 14:22 GMT, 8 March 2010
<< Comment #302 @ 14:13 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #128
poker doesn't take any skill?



How much money would you like to play for?
<< Comment #306 @ 14:42 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #302
Yeah, you got me, that was what I was saying.
<< Comment #308 @ 16:35 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #306
oh

now i see what u did there..
<< Comment #129 @ 20:41 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek 
would love to see Fatal1ty in action

but... he loses in FFA shootouts :(

http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/matches/fatal1ty/20695878/DM
<< Comment #133 @ 23:47 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #129
Haha, it is really hard to win every FFA.
<< Comment #135 @ 23:48 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek  - Reply to #133
:p
<< Comment #157 @ 17:27 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #159 @ 17:41 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek  - Reply to #157
yeah at some point in one of those 2v4 matches the score was, if i remember correctly, 197:0 ;-)

still beating him in ffa was a nice experience :p
<< Comment #131 @ 23:12 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
LakermaN!!!!
<< Comment #134 @ 23:47 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #131
Lakerman would be awesome, but he probably need too much time to get back into it. His old "esp" used to give me orgasms.
<< Comment #132 @ 23:47 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By 2k2_2 Nukm 
tox and fat
<< Comment #139 @ 01:17 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By United States of America Hito 
Impossible to choose one, ive always liked Pele and Lakermans style. Would love to see Lexer, Czm and Fat back too though...

I think any match between rapha, cooller, fat and czm in their prime would just be amazing.
<< Comment #138 @ 01:10 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Portugal stuntz 
Polos is rulez :D
<< Comment #140 @ 01:32 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By USSR EKSelenc 
uNkind or toxjq.
<< Comment #142 @ 08:45 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
immortal (usa), Shub-niGGa (nor) and Scion (nor).
Are true legends for me.
/[pig]Parish
<< Comment #141 @ 07:16 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Kitty Adel 
toxjq
<< Comment #144 @ 09:33 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Denmark amOKchen 
I've always been a lakerman fan, so heres my top5 :p

1. LakermaN
2. toxic
3. unkind
4. daler
5. elpajuo (this guy was amazing not much footage on him though)
<< Comment #145 @ 10:35 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By rpnew telly 
Pietro
<< Comment #147 @ 13:59 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop? 
lexer,stelam,sl1nger,zyz,kane, czm,fatal1ty, in no specific order.

+ cooller being as successful as he used to be ;)
Edited by Loop? at 14:00 GMT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #151 @ 16:06 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Denmark Vium 
k3no og hazzi aka gur piuv
<< Comment #152 @ 16:15 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS 
- ElkY
- Grrr..
- rat
<< Comment #154 @ 16:46 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #152
Major Poll: QL

"Quake live has brought quite a few players back to the scene. Which comeback to the Quake competitive scene would you rather see (as a player)?"

:(
Edited by Paladia at 16:46 GMT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #155 @ 16:52 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS  - Reply to #154
WHICH COMEBACK WOULD YOU RATHER SEE?
<list of persons and some random blabla i didn't care about>
<< Comment #156 @ 16:53 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS  - Reply to #155
also any of my list rather than any of yours :p
<< Comment #158 @ 17:28 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #155
Well, you should at least check which category its in :)

However, you can do a SC one sometime later. Though most SC players have already made a comeback. :)
Edited by Paladia at 17:28 GMT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #160 @ 18:03 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By US-Pennsylvania judge717 
czm easy
<< Comment #161 @ 18:27 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By stermy bubble_ru 
Best fail :

"A Legend return", quake IV, Immortal.
Videos etc ...

A Legend Returns
Once, long ago, a legend trod the earth, fragging opponents with ease and reigning as a good and wise champion.

Until, one day, he vanished into the mists of time.

On Tuesday, he returns.....and GGL.com will cover every step of his exciting comeback
<< Comment #163 @ 19:20 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Done linoleuM 
rat or czm
Edited by linoleuM at 19:20 GMT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #166 @ 19:51 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
lakerman vs z4 on t4... interesting.
<< Comment #168 @ 22:31 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 stunt.us 
imagine stx-kash playing QL. I mean osp was super easy for him. I want to see the kash come back!
<< Comment #170 @ 22:42 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke  - Reply to #168
kash=rapha
<< Comment #172 @ 23:53 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 stunt.us  - Reply to #170
no wai! kash was known for having aim of GODS with lg and railgun. rapha just runs and spams rl.
<< Comment #176 @ 14:45 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Finland duumed  - Reply to #172
rapha just walks and spams rl.

there, i fixed it for you
<< Comment #179 @ 18:48 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 stunt.us  - Reply to #176
hahah true ;D
<< Comment #247 @ 23:32 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #168
You know, i hate you. But i have to say, you're one heck of a good troll.
<< Comment #254 @ 01:05 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By clawo Liam  - Reply to #247
We need another poll to decide imo.

I'm pretty sure I know what the outcome will be though.
<< Comment #304 @ 14:16 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #247
what in the fuck are u talkin about?
<< Comment #305 @ 14:30 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #304
Nice reflex, retard. Fuck off back to your cave.
<< Comment #307 @ 14:59 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #305
reflex? what in the Fuck are you talkin about now you stupid fuckin idiot? just shut the fuck up ur fuckin useless and worthless
<< Comment #309 @ 19:35 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #307
Shush, kid. I know it's hard to live with a reading disability, don't make yourself look even worse.
<< Comment #177 @ 14:58 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen` 
PELE[PK]
<< Comment #178 @ 15:58 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Quake 3 (black) ddk 
THERAILMCCOY
<< Comment #186 @ 15:23 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By AUSNL by dann zkyp  - Reply to #178
!!!!!
<< Comment #180 @ 20:41 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive JDMYO 
czm of course - he was the SHIT! possibly the best allround Quake3 player of all time - tdm, cpm, 1v1 etc. Who could forget that T4 game he had against Aim (Ambix?) where he hit 3 pixel rails in a row from the bottom level to the top whilst Aim was stacked in sudden death overtime to win the game :) was awesome!
And didn't czm give Cooller his biggest defeat of his carreer on hub :)
<< Comment #184 @ 09:59 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By zerg vedic  - Reply to #180
demo?
<< Comment #185 @ 11:27 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #192 @ 18:24 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen`  - Reply to #180
czm TDM? lol
<< Comment #204 @ 20:56 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By United States of America erok  - Reply to #192
he played for cK when they were the top NA team and actually did well against euro teams
<< Comment #182 @ 04:17 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By US-California per1klez 
i dont understand all the talk for czm.. he tried to come back with EG last year and got pwned. I'd much rather see fatal1ty go for gold.
<< Comment #183 @ 09:46 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #182
czm is a secure ticket, if fatality can adjust to the level quake is played is something else.
Also probably why he is reluctant to jump into it, the level is to high for him :P
<< Comment #233 @ 17:12 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke  - Reply to #182
czm is a likeable character, fatalalalaonetwoty isn't
<< Comment #234 @ 17:36 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By US-California per1klez  - Reply to #233
Fortunately for him, that is an opinion restricted mainly to ESR and few other esports communities. For the other millions of people that have heard of him or seen him play, his persona is far more likable than that of a czm.
<< Comment #262 @ 18:13 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By ezQuake focus  - Reply to #234
whoa now. I'm not and have never been a fatal1ty basher. I got along with him just fine the few times I've actually spent a little time with him, but you should give Paul more credit. He's great.
<< Comment #266 @ 09:00 GMT, 3 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #262
why are you arguing with periklez as if he had any clue of wha he's taking about?
<< Comment #187 @ 15:35 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip 
keeper should come back too
<< Comment #188 @ 16:37 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck spyteman  - Reply to #187
hah yeah he was solid :D
<< Comment #189 @ 17:05 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #187
keep3r
<< Comment #190 @ 17:15 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip  - Reply to #189
k29.keep3r
keep3r^v4
c58|Keep3r
Edited by deotrip at 17:16 GMT, 27 October 2009
<< Comment #191 @ 17:37 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #190
well done ;)
<< Comment #277 @ 06:01 GMT, 7 November 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #187
From what I gather, he's playing CS these days. He was pretty awesome to watch on ztn back when he was in shape (an unfortunately brief time).
<< Comment #193 @ 18:41 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Sweden phaces 
Lexer
<< Comment #314 @ 03:46 BST, 31 July 2010 >>
By exclamation point CLains  - Reply to #193
yes! it would be the most fun
<< Comment #198 @ 14:57 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM 
my vote stays with zyz
<< Comment #199 @ 15:36 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Poland panadol 
stelam slinger and everyone else
<< Comment #200 @ 16:51 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_ 
Mikes for TDM? Also it would be cool if Dag, Def, or Reppie from qw tried their hands at ql duel.
Edited by JayDee_ at 16:52 GMT, 28 October 2009
<< Comment #205 @ 20:59 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen`  - Reply to #200
Mikes may be will come back!
<< Comment #209 @ 06:09 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #200
Why should they waste time with a shitty, slow, hitscan cs game? Especially +forward Reppie with his 5cm/360 sensitivity. Waste of talent imo.
Edited by terrorhead at 06:10 GMT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #210 @ 09:12 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #209
Because they have been playing the same players and shithouse maps since the creation of the universe. However, I'll agree qw has superior fundamental gameplay and the top players would probably never switch to anything else. I just think it would be nice to see a guy of Reppies insane talents try something different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6REVMQYrK8
<< Comment #211 @ 09:27 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #210
Not sure if I want to see Reppie in QL. Everyone would just own him. He would have to completely change his setup and style of play.

I agree about maps though. dm2 and possibly dm4 should be removed from comps.

Nice vid. I still have that demo :D
Edited by terrorhead at 09:28 GMT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #213 @ 13:37 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #200
I would go as far as saying that players like dag aren't as talented as some of the top players in QL.

When QW was the game, when it had players like DOOMer, Sniket, oKKun, Lakerman, Kane and so on, dag played at that time as well (I don't know if reppie or def played at that time but if they did they were so poor they weren't even known in the slightest then). However, dag, or dagurra as he was known as then, didn't stand a chance against those players, he was even at a lower level of play than me.

When all good players leave from a dead community, some lesser player is bound to take the #1 spot.

That goes for most of those current QW "stars", such as pietro, locktar, riker, xalibur, mrlane and so on. I do not even think they would disagree with me.
<< Comment #216 @ 15:28 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #213
Dude, less talented? QW requires a different skillset altogether. Different strats, movement, weapons, it's hard to compare, even. Also, how can you know if the current "stars" of QW wouldn't catch up to the old masters even, if they did stay in the game?

I'd say, if they'd put in time and effort, some of them could become top contenders in QL.
<< Comment #217 @ 16:19 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QW_ Zalon  - Reply to #213
I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense. As much as I respect the oldschool players (They were the top when I started playing), they simply didn't play the same game as the game thats played today. Saying that Dag wasn't as good, because he peaked at a later stage in the games history - Is like saying that LakermaN was only good, because Thresh wasn't around anymore. But even back then the game had changed alot, from when Thresh was king to when LakermaN won TGI. LakermaN was part of the era where aim, speed, and the ability to do tricks became a major factor in the game, whereas the players from the previous era had relied much more on just tactics.

QuakeWorld have had numerous eras, and different kings for each era. Some have stayed on top throughout most of the game's lifespan, players like ParadokS, reppie, dag and griffin. And I'm sure players like that have/had the talent to be good in any game. Just like LakermaN showed, some people can just pick up a game and instantly be good.

Regarding the players you list as current "stars", only LocKtar and riker is around.

But I would agree, that most top qw players probably wouldn't do as good in QL, but thats more of an age/lack of time thing than it is talent. Also they would be lightyears behind the Quake3 players. If Nabbe had not been moved from the "Participating players" to the "Pending Players" list, for the QL tourney at DreamHack winter, we could have seen what a top qw player could do in QL - with limited practice.
<< Comment #221 @ 17:54 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #217
There is nothing suggesting that Thresh was better than Lakerman, DOOMer or Sniket.

Did you watch 9 vs DR? I was there and watched it live and talked to the players. The first time EU and NA actually faced each other in QW/RQ, DR didn't do too well there (they even lost in their games vs IoP, another much less known medium-skilled Swedish team). Of course, while they were here Thresh also played 1v1s, losing games vs Xenon, DOOMer etc.

It's not like these current QW stars werent active at that point. Riker, mrlame, dagurra and so on played quite a bit yet wasn't even considered mediocre players in comparison to the likes of DOOMer or Lakerman.

I even played in the same team as Riker and mrlame, so I do know them as players more than most yet my opinion still holds true, they, just like me, werent as talented as players like Lakerman. It's simply easier to be amongst the best when the community size is 100 compared to 1 000 000, especially if you have a 10 year game advantage on all the new players.
Edited by Paladia at 17:58 GMT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #243 @ 11:08 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By rpnew telly  - Reply to #221
You are ignoring the fact that most of the early star players in Quake were established Doom players. Doomer, Ettu, Lakerman, Thresh etc all played Doom multiplayer and came into Quake already holding a lot of FPS experience. It was no surprise they dominated early on. Just like in Q3 where all the early tournaments were won by veteran Q1 and Q2 players.
Edited by telly at 15:39 GMT, 31 October 2009
<< Comment #301 @ 14:11 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #221
thresh was already deep into playin q2 at the time and had stopped playing q1, not to mention he was an NQ player not a qw player.
<< Comment #218 @ 16:42 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #213
No offence dude, but you have no idea what you are talking about. Dag not being top notch when laker was playing doesn't prove anything. Different players have different motivations at different times. Pietro has been out of the scene for a looooong time. The players who have been at the top of the qw scene in recent years are very very skilled and would destroy laker at his previous form. There is no need to make comments when you clearly don't know anything about the subject.
<< Comment #203 @ 19:13 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Germany - Bayern abso 
zyz
<< Comment #206 @ 00:23 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Eyeballers-Anim 0.2 kaZappeR shay  - Reply to #203
zyz sucks.. so did ewa braun.. ehm
<< Comment #208 @ 06:07 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead 
Fuck them all. I want to see Griffin and dag comeback.
<< Comment #212 @ 09:37 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Plusme ins 
COMEBACK CZM!
<< Comment #220 @ 17:29 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Portugal uuuaaaaaa  - Reply to #212
CZM is awessome!! But i would like to see a Fatal1ty comeback to shut people's mouth that say he isn't good anymore... But it would be funny if he comebacked and get owned xD
<< Comment #225 @ 09:13 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Plusme ins  - Reply to #220
Fatal1ty will comeback rather sooner than later, and yep he will get owned most likely.
<< Comment #226 @ 11:05 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #225
I disagree.

I think if fatal1ty does decide to come back officially he will make sure that he can hold his own among the top players in practice games before doing it.
And I think we can all agree that he is not the type of players who is worse in tournaments than in his practise games.
<< Comment #228 @ 14:49 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Portugal uuuaaaaaa  - Reply to #226
i'm oficially impressed. Just checked his stats on ql and he is owning on ffa... He said on an interview @ gamescon that he likes to play a lot of ffa to prepair his aim for a tournament, but he might be playing just for fun, I don't know... And you are right, Fatal1ty isn't stupid that's why he reached his status....
<< Comment #215 @ 15:24 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
the guy who knows whom i voted for gets a beer!
<< Comment #219 @ 17:10 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
Crrrrrrrrrrrrrrazyman!

But honestly, i'd love to see them all come back. The more the merrier. :)

Those and many more, especially people who managed to embed themselves in my memory, like Rocketboy, Kane, Paradoks, Gollum, Python, Matrox, Roos, Death, Arrw, Shub, w3st.. the list goes on.
<< Comment #241 @ 02:37 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #219
kane is currently the captain of "Rot-Weiß Oberhausen" in the 2nd Bundesliga. pretty successfull it seems.

[img1]
Edited by [mash] at 02:37 GMT, 31 October 2009
<< Comment #248 @ 23:42 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #241
Haha, no shit? Well good for him. I'd still like to see him make a comeback, the guy was sick.
<< Comment #249 @ 00:29 GMT, 1 November 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #248
yeah, you could see him with his captains badge if some lazy ass admin would approve the pic.

i still remember his demos from LanArena. :D

e:

apparently he's now worth 700k. http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/spieler/8107/b...rofil.html

up 600k since the last time people talked about it.
Edited by [mash] at 00:35 GMT, 1 November 2009
<< Comment #260 @ 09:23 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #249
can't approve pics at the moment.

I blame funnyb!
<< Comment #280 @ 18:00 GMT, 8 November 2009 >>
By l0wfly sucky sucky 5 dolla  - Reply to #260
what the fudge
<< Comment #222 @ 21:27 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By United States of America MUNG>esh 
where's cK 2v2 w/czm + fat option?!?
<< Comment #227 @ 11:06 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #222
cause everyone would vote for foxic?
<< Comment #240 @ 02:32 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #227
i'd vote for cox&fox.
<< Comment #242 @ 07:29 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #240
yes you would
<< Comment #245 @ 13:41 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #242
:D
<< Comment #223 @ 22:24 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By United States of America davis 
czm for sure
<< Comment #224 @ 02:22 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM 
why no zyz in this vote poll? He was q2 superstar in tdm / duels so was he in Q3 tdm and awesome duel player in PK. He was 4th at world champion ship in PK 2005.
<< Comment #229 @ 15:01 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #224
Duel wise I don't think he has placed top3 in any tournament.

Though there are lots of players that you could argue would have a place in such a poll, Kane is the one that comes closest to mine. However, no matter where you draw the line, the will be cases close to the line that can be argued.

You can also vote on the "Someone else" option for such players though.
<< Comment #237 @ 22:10 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM  - Reply to #229
half of those players didnt placed top3 on the list...... and unmatched did placed top3 in many tournaments, won couple of times too... zyz did won pk too at some tournaments..
<< Comment #239 @ 22:45 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #237
Lets see, you claim half of the players didn't place top3 in a duel tournament. I'll just mention one tournament for those I remember. To be fair, I'll only mention lan tournaments.

czm: 24% (79)
#1 QIL4

Fatal1ty: 18% (60)
#1 XSReality Invitational

toxjq: 17% (56)
#1 Dreamhack winter 2005

uNkind: 12% (41)
#1 WCG 2002

LeXeR: 4.8% (16)
#1 QuakeCon 2002

Thresh: 3.6% (12)
#1 Red Annihilation

LakermaN: 3.3% (11)
#1 Lan Arena 4

Stelam: 3.3% (11)
#1 Lan Arena 5

ZeRo4: 1.8% (6)
#1 QuakeCon 2001

Polosatiy: 1.8% (6)
#1 AMD PG Challenge 2003

PELE: 1.8% (6)
#1 RazerCPL Qualifier

Blue: 1.5% (5)
#1 CPL Asia

socrates: 1.5% (5)
#1 WCG USA 2002

DOOMer: 1.5% (5)
#1 Swedish Quake Championships

elpajuo: 1.2% (4)
#1 Cyber X-Games

Makaveli: 0.9% (3)
#2 XSReality Invitational

Sujoy: 0.9% (3)
#3 Ground Zero

cha0ticz: 0.6% (2)
Can't remember any

Blokey: 0.3% (1)
#1 XSReality AMD Cup (this was a duel tournament but not alone though).

Daler: 0.3% (1)
#1 ION Games
As you can see, your claim that "half those players never placed top3 in a duel tournament", was entirely inaccurate. Almost all of them have won at least one LAN tournament.
Edited by Paladia at 15:59 GMT, 2 November 2009
<< Comment #261 @ 09:25 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #239
pwnz0red
<< Comment #278 @ 06:03 GMT, 7 November 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #239
Wasn't ION Games an online tournament? The one where elpajuo went AFK on tourney4 with a small (1 frag?) lead, and then Daler took the win at the end?
<< Comment #279 @ 13:07 GMT, 7 November 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #278
I think you may be right, though he was #1 at AmeriCup and LayeredX as well (and second at Quakecon and WCG USA 2002).
Edited by Paladia at 13:09 GMT, 7 November 2009
<< Comment #231 @ 15:24 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By redd0t dot anim Apoc 
Python should be in the list. And the spanish guy who won one of the WCG's, whose name I can't remember.

I would still have voted for PELE [PK], hail!
<< Comment #253 @ 18:52 GMT, 1 November 2009 >>
By Austria noctis  - Reply to #231
the spanish guy that got second behind unkind you mean
<< Comment #256 @ 07:49 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By redd0t dot anim Apoc  - Reply to #253
Thats' right, I wondered if a WCG winner could be forgotten.

But Akiles, not heard much of him lately..
<< Comment #235 @ 17:41 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By United States of America cha0ticz 
I'm rocking 2 votes at the moment, one of which was me so I'd like to give a big shout-out to my fan!
<< Comment #238 @ 22:26 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #235
you can click on show votes to see who it was and thank him personally ;)
<< Comment #264 @ 18:55 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Brazil _agu  - Reply to #235
i'd like to see you playing quake4 on galang, vs socrates.. some us tournament which i woudn't forget hahaha was amazing that game
<< Comment #274 @ 11:38 GMT, 4 November 2009 >>
By USSR Demiurge  - Reply to #235
You can use a plural now :)
<< Comment #298 @ 08:52 GMT, 24 November 2009 >>
By Earth by BooTes StywoO  - Reply to #235
Since you voted for yourself, can we assume your coming back? :)
<< Comment #236 @ 19:53 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By France Co1nCo1n 
SOMBRA ! lol
<< Comment #244 @ 13:02 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Portugal gut 
phyton, prozac and mist
<< Comment #246 @ 14:13 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Copyright by Jazka Jazka 
I voted stelam because i remember him firstly as being a great TDM player. Same for toxjq. And same for prozac. Same for makaveli because he is my first demo watched, a tdm demo on DM6 before the pro version, he was camping at RA and looking up.

And so on, i would like to see all those players come back for some great TDM with a lot of teams fighting to be n°1.
<< Comment #251 @ 09:28 GMT, 1 November 2009 >>
The Genie says, "you have three wishes". Aladdin tells the Genie his first wish, "I wish for unlimited wishes.". Robin Williams tells Aladdin, "Well that kind of defeats the purpose of only having three wishes, but what can I do? Rules is rules.".

I always liked CZM, Toxic and Lexer myself. If I had my way, they would all come back.
<< Comment #252 @ 15:44 GMT, 1 November 2009 >>
By 2KBlack Yellack 
Z4 with a ball mouse! \o/
<< Comment #255 @ 06:53 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By New Zealand roffo 
CZM for sure. The guy built a fucking railgun
<< Comment #259 @ 08:28 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze 
needs more rat!
anyway voted fat.
<< Comment #263 @ 18:53 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Brazil _agu 
i voted on fatal1ty but i rather like to see fist1 back on track :)
<< Comment #265 @ 21:43 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Dird 
GitzZz
<< Comment #271 @ 23:12 GMT, 3 November 2009 >>
Outside of the usual suspects I would like to see (not just from Q3):

Polos, Blokey, Lakerman, Aim, Q50, Slinger & Stelam (surely they're a double team super combo?), Panicore, Prozac, Appleseed, IF22 anyone? and just cos I love him, Timber.
<< Comment #272 @ 11:24 GMT, 4 November 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #271
Q50 is playing QL
<< Comment #276 @ 20:03 GMT, 5 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #284 @ 15:51 GMT, 12 November 2009 >>
By Germany butchji  - Reply to #271
Appleseed is playing QL!
<< Comment #285 @ 19:52 GMT, 12 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #270 @ 23:06 GMT, 3 November 2009 >>
shub_nigga played some tdm's with cooller, frozen etc.
SPRAY
<< Comment #269 @ 17:59 GMT, 3 November 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind 
Would be cool to see Enemy play again too.
<< Comment #273 @ 11:37 GMT, 4 November 2009 >>
By USSR Demiurge 
Probably enjoy seeing LeXeR play by far the most, would be really awesome if he played again.
<< Comment #275 @ 12:22 GMT, 4 November 2009 >>
By claw0 pizz 
1. niceguy/Greenbastard
2. pezouille
3. pizzette
<< Comment #281 @ 12:02 GMT, 10 November 2009 >>
By Lithuania yo_O 
uNkind, LeXeR, b100.Death, cGu'Nova and many more ;)
<< Comment #282 @ 12:52 GMT, 10 November 2009 >>
By Nuke Explosion raithza 
I'd like to see Yuka make another comeback. This time as fatal1ty. imagine the DRAMA!

also, rat.
<< Comment #283 @ 16:52 GMT, 10 November 2009 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates 
oldschoolers! :P
<< Comment #286 @ 15:14 GMT, 13 November 2009 >>
By New Zealand GrotesK 
Blue to make a comeback with T4~
czm would also be great.
<< Comment #287 @ 22:20 GMT, 13 November 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Disrepute 
I would like to see yuka back (as one of the above names)
<< Comment #322 @ 10:23 BST, 28 May 2012 >>
By Moldova quake is potat  - Reply to #287
'ello 'ello 'ello, whats all this then
<< Comment #323 @ 15:59 BST, 28 May 2012 >>
By United Kingdom Disrepute  - Reply to #322
stalker!
<< Comment #288 @ 18:15 GMT, 14 November 2009 >>
By ET:QW Shrike 
Wombat !
<< Comment #291 @ 01:14 GMT, 16 November 2009 >>
By France Co1nCo1n 
czm: 22%

+ hub for QL
<< Comment #292 @ 17:01 GMT, 16 November 2009 >>
By France Shardik 
Thresh for sure !

and Hub, Qtv, mvd for QL yep :)
Edited by Shardik at 17:02 GMT, 16 November 2009
<< Comment #293 @ 01:06 GMT, 17 November 2009 >>
czm for sure. the best player ever to grace the quake community with his presence imho.
really wish he would make another comeback in QL. :)
<< Comment #294 @ 11:29 GMT, 19 November 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr 
NEED NEW POLL: WHO GONNA WIN DHW KKTHXBYE
<< Comment #295 @ 13:22 GMT, 20 November 2009 >>
By QuakeLive JDMYO 
Paul Nelson! lets have one last duel tourney off you?! Come on dude. You can live upto Rapha, Cypher and Cooller. No one else can but CZM can :)
Someone make Hub for QL and bring CZM back! :)
Shit! - I bet Rapha would own on hub... :o
<< Comment #296 @ 14:07 GMT, 20 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #299 @ 16:37 GMT, 28 November 2009 >>
By Netherlands Black2lip 
Blue or LakermaN two of my favorite quake players all time.
<< Comment #310 @ 20:09 BST, 7 July 2010 >>
By Estonia dunZ 
toxjq : )
<< Comment #311 @ 10:48 BST, 28 July 2010 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates  - Reply to #310
Done.
<< Comment #312 @ 11:00 BST, 28 July 2010 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #311
Then it could only get better if LakermaN stopped being a poker millionaire and started quake again!
<< Comment #313 @ 11:04 BST, 28 July 2010 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates  - Reply to #312
If he thinks that this is the right way. Don't think he'll replace his millions from poker with a dirty old railgun :P
Edited by nails at 11:04 BST, 28 July 2010
<< Comment #315 @ 18:48 BST, 2 September 2010 >>
By US-Arizona klout 
Fatal1ty, fox and czm.
<< Comment #316 @ 17:35 BST, 29 September 2010 >>
By USSR Lowbird 
need more lexer votes tbfh. or else your not enlightened.
<< Comment #319 @ 19:45 BST, 1 October 2010 >>
By Germany - Freistaat Sachsen sic4rius 
Fatal1ty ofc.

But I highly doubt that he would perform a comeback in a broken game and a watered down version of one of his favourite games, which lacks the ability to spawn LAN servers. By now he already must have realised that there's no future for a game as incomplete and undeveloped like QL.

And what else is there for people wanting fast gameplay and compete in 1on1 tourneys? Right, nothink!
<< Comment #321 @ 23:30 BST, 27 May 2012 >>
By United States of America DizzyMage 
what was the last tournament doomer competed in?
<< Comment #324 @ 20:56 BST, 1 July 2013 >>
srs.cypher
<< Comment #325 @ 18:12 BST, 9 May 2014 >>
By Void Fr0zzen 
k1llsen
<< Comment #326 @ 09:48 BST, 10 May 2014 >>
By Germany - Berlin ihve  - Reply to #325
Posting in a 2009 thread
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By Bulgaria cha0z_  - Reply to #326
in 2014 year

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