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Hud custom crosshairs, where ? =( (3 comments)
Posted by thizito @ 11:17 CDT, 2 September 2014 - iMsg
I want a dot with outline...
dont want the X-ray vision xhairs i always find in all huds..

Something smooth 16:9.. is hard..

can someone share experience and xhairs with dl link?

I currently browsing with random and trying to figure/find crosshairs.. and i improve my hud the whole week.. but crosshairs still a problem

I just want a perfect dot outline for drawcrosshair in my rocket launcher/rail,.. idk will try later

But i always used dot with outline in other games, like Tf2

help guys? I give a big +rep
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fu|<U nephie_cc is awesome . . . (6 comments)
Posted by nephie_cc @ 09:38 CDT, 2 September 2014 - iMsg
what do you think?
Halloween 2014 preset:

1- Ghostbusters by Ray Parker Jr.
2- Thriller by Michael Jackson (Also perhaps one of the best music videos ever made. It's almost as good as a short film as it has scary make-up, great zombie costumes and a fantastic story.)
3- Black Magic Woman by Santana
4- Oogie Boogie’s Song from Nightmare Before Christmas
5- Witchy Woman by The Eagles
6- Witch Queen of New Orleans by Redbone
7- My Immortal by Evanescence
8- Frankenstein by The Edgar Winter Group
9- The Devil Went Down To Georgia by The Charlie Daniels Band
10- Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This) by The Eurythmics
11- Monster Mash by Bobby “Boris” Pickett
12- Feed My Frankenstein by Alice Cooper
13- I Put A Spell On You by Screamin’ Jay Hawkins
14- Voodoo Child by Jimi Hendrix
15- Halloween Blues by Clarence Brewer
16- Vampire Bitin’ Blues by John Vosel and The Boogie Monsters
17- Welcome To My Nightmare by Alice Cooper
18- Love Potion Number 9 by The Searchers or The Clovers
19- Bad Moon Rising by Creedence Clearwater Revival
20- Don’t Fear The Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult
21- Lil’ Red Riding Hood by Sam the Sham and The Pharaohs
22- In The Midnight Hour by Wilson Pickett
23- Living Dead Girl by Rob Zombie
24- Hotel California by The Eagles
25- Superstition by Stevie Wonder
26- Werewolves Of London by Warren Zevon
27- Somebody’s Watching Me by Rockwell
28- Witchcraft by Elvis Presley (Very different from the Frank Sinatra version.)
29- Spooky by The Classics IV or The Atlanta Rhythm Section
30- I’m Your Boogie Man by KC and The Sunshine Band
31- I Want Candy by Bow Wow Wow
32- Season Of The Witch by Donovan or Luna
33- Witch Doctor by David Seville or Sha Na Na
34- Sympathy For The Devil by The Rolling Stones
35- Purple People Eater by Sheb Wooley
36- Bela Lugosi’s Dead by Bauhaus
37- Dead Man’s Party by Oingo Boingo
38- Abracadabra by Steve Miller Band
39- Super Freak by Rick James
40- Hell by Squirrel Nut Zippers
41- Cry Little Sister by Gerard McMann (Theme from Lost Boys)
42- Halloween Theme by John Carpenter (I bet the sales of those white masks went through the roof after this creepy film came out.)
43- Excorcist Theme / Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield
44- Twilight Zone by Golden Earring (If you’re ever up at 2 a.m. and this song comes on the radio, you’ll get goosebumps.)
45- Bark At The Moon by Ozzy Osbourne
46- Dragula by Rob Zombie
47- Highway To Hell by AC/DC
48- Psycho Killer by Talking Heads
49- Bad Things (Theme from True Blood) by Jace Everett (The perfect TV theme song for a scary show.)
50- Science Fiction / Double Feature by Richard O’Brien (This one is from The Rocky Horror Picture Show film which can be an awesome resource for coming up with a Halloween costume.)
51- He’s Back (The Man Behind the Mask) by Alice Cooper (The song is about Jason Vorhees from Jason Lives: Friday the 13th Part VI.)
52- Love Song For A Vampire by Annie Lennox (I can already see a bunch of people in scary costumes slow dancing to this song at the end of the night.)
53- Haunted House by Jumpin’ Gene Simmons
54- Harvest Moon by Blue Oyster Cult (Not one of their better known songs, but great none the less. It’s about Summer turning into Fall and some very bad land.)
55- Mouth (The Stingray Mix) by Bush (This song was on the An American Werewolf In Paris soundtrack from 1997.)
56- Surfin’ Dead by The Cramps (This song was used in the Return of the Living Dead movie from 1985.)
57- Forsaken by David Draiman (Used in the Queen of the Damned movie from 2002. This is a great song about vampires.)
58- The Garden Of Allah by Don Henley
59- Self Control by Laura Branigan
60- Over At The Frankenstein Place by Susan Sarandon, Barry Bostwick, and Richard O'Brien (Another one from Rocky Horror Picture Show. What a great movie and great music all the way through.)
61- Red Right Hand from Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds (Heard in the movie Scream from 1996.)
62- Mr. Crowley by Ozzy Osbourne (This song is about Aleister Crowley, an influential occultist and magician from the late 1800's and early 1900’s.)
63- Disturbia by Rihanna
64- Feast Of The Mau Mau by Screamin’ Jay Hawkins (This song is so strange and weird that it’s good.)
65- Need To Destroy by Thc (Heard this song in the Buffy The Vampire Slayer tv show Season 4, Episode: Wild At Heart. It was sung by an unchanged werewolf in the show.)
66- The Legend Of Wooley Swamp by Charlie Daniels
67- Sittin’ Up With The Dead by Ray Stevens (A really funny song and even funnier video.)
68- Hell’s Bells by AC/DC
69- O’ Death by Jen Titus (Appeared in the tv show Supernatural Season 5, Episode: Two Minutes To Midnight. This is a great version of a very old song.)
70- Marie Lavaux by Bobby Bare
71- Call Of The Zombie by Rob Zombie (A very short, creepy, and catchy rhyme, but would be great in front of a Rob Zombie song.)
72- King Tut by Steve Martin
73- The Boogie Monster by Gnarls Barkley
74- Lil’ Devil by The Cult
75- Time Warp by the cast from The Rocky Horror Picture Show (A lot of different people sang in this movie song. Each one added something so special to the song that I couldn’t just put down a few people.)
76- The Addams Family Main Theme by Victor Mizzy
77- My Wife and My Dead Wife by Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians
78- Elvira by The Oak Ridge Boys (You get the right woman in this costume with this song playing and she'll garner a lot of attention.)
79- This Is Halloween by Marilyn Manson
80- Voodoo by Godsmack (I heard this song first watching MTV’s Fear. I liked the song and the show.)
81- House Of 1000 Corpses by Rob Zombie
82- Enter Sandman by Metallica
83- Wicked Annabella by The Kinks
84- Dracula’s Lament by Jason Segel (I heard this song in the movie Forgetting Sarah Marshall and instantly loved it. It's going to be on my Halloween music list for a long time.)
85- Swamp Witch by Jim Stafford Bonus Halloween Party Music
86- Spiderwebs by No Doubt
87- Freaks Come Out At Night by Whodini
88- (Ghost) Riders In The Sky by Johnny Cash
89- Dream Warriors by Dokken
90- Devil Inside by INXS
91- The Shadow Knows by The Coasters
92- Ghost Town by The Specials
93- The Blob by The Five Blobs
94- Tales From the Crypt Theme by Danny Elfman
95- 3 a.m. by Eminem
96- Hoodoo by Al Reed
97- Paint It, Black by The Rolling Stones
98- Heads Will Roll by Yeah Yeah Yeahs
99- Zombie by Natalia Kills
100- Doin’ The Zombie by Chubby Checker
101- She’s My Witch by Kip Tyler
102- Clap For The Wolfman by The Guess Who (After hearing this song, I decided to hold a werewolf costume contest at my next party.)
103- People Are Strange by The Doors or Echo & The Bunnymen (as heard on the Lost Boys film)
104- Dinner With Drac Pt. 1 by John Zacherle
105- Headless Horseman by Kay Starr
106- Planet Claire by The B-52s
107- After Dark by Tito & Tarantuala (You know this one from the action horror movie From Dusk Till Dawn.)
108- Zombie Jamboree by Rockapella
109- The Vampires by Archie King
110- Evil Woman by Electric Light Orchestra
111- A Nightmare on My Street by DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince


to be continued . . .
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Everyone is crying about quakelive but.. (43 comments)
Posted by k1ruaa @ 08:10 CDT, 2 September 2014 - iMsg
Classic gameplay is still available for free in all modes... so it changes nothing tbh for thoses (everyone?) who still want to play regular quake.

So what is all this whine about?

Also, play more pql.
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Site stats & people do care about Quake (8 comments)
Posted by p3l3.dynodeath @ 04:09 CDT, 2 September 2014 - iMsg
Would be interesting to see historically how many posts / topics have been made on ESR, since changes were implemented, in different game titles, e.g. Q4, Q3, QL etc, and the timing of the increase in posts / topics / activity on this site. "Quake care value" seems to have increased, and posts increased for sure. (QL overtakes the number of topics than Q3)... Perhaps this will be reversed soon, when people stop caring about QL, bit like the Q4 death?
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Why can't people just get along (1 comment)
Posted by p3l3.dynodeath @ 03:01 CDT, 2 September 2014 - iMsg
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cooller on Moscow LAN (5 comments)
Posted by reply_to_#1 @ 22:12 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
found this on the tube. thanks to the uploader

over the shoulder action:




also more vids in that channel
Edited by reply_to_#1 at 08:58 CDT, 2 September 2014 - 294 Hits
Laptop + 120Hz? (14 comments)
Posted by obi @ 19:53 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
Hoping someone who know what they are talking about can help me here. I have this piece of shit laptop (Lenovo y580) with HD 4000, GTX 660 and a VGA output. Can I plug in a CRT and get 120hz? The reason I ask is that it has this Nvidia Optimus crap on it which apparently causes problems with high refresh rates. I can't find any confirmation on whether or not this will work.
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omg im sorry (17 comments)
Posted by futurist @ 19:23 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
i finally understand it all..
i damaged the game so much and i kept going (was not my goal)
people here will never love me
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Chicago ping ql server problem. (15 comments)
Posted by cha0tic90 @ 16:05 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
I ping 30ms to Chicago on and to ql servers I ping 70. This happens almost everyday for about an hour or two. And yes that test was taken at the same time I had 70 ping to Chicago quake live servers.
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Edited by Gobotz at 15:55 CDT, 1 September 2014 - 1007 Hits
Positive Feedback Thread (31 comments)
Posted by LotBlind @ 13:30 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
So yeah, I figured since the previous update received by and large a negative response it would be useful and constructive to devote an entire thread to just highlighting the things you've felt as particularly positive developments in the history of Quake Live. You should start from whenever it was you yourself hopped on board. If you're an old-schooler feel free even to refer to changes made from Q3 to QL BUT this is for POSITIVE FEEDBACK ONLY. Any negativity and any venom should be deleted.

So don't just come here to say "well I'd like to have listed some things here but couldn't think of anything positive", that's absolute rubbish.... ALSO please don't dispute other people's choices and posts in this thread (I don't care if the person misremembered something), no Ideas for Improvement, no random off-topic conversations... Just add in your list please. Mention even things that others mentioned before.

Here's my list to kick things off! I'm listing everything I could think of in a short time and things I dug up in the QLForums' old news section:

(started playing QL in Jan. 2012)
-triangles that show your teammates' position, health, taking damage etc.
-new maps, esp. mcsarge's, hen house, arkinholm, terminus, monastery, divine intermission, gospel crossings, railyard, repent, arcane citadel, limbus, terminatria
-new parameters to mess around with in start a match
-I actually prefer the new more minimalistic match loading screen and in-game menu screen
-BOT A.I. has improved a TON with simple changes like they switch to a better weapon at long range or when they run out of ammo. They even do little rocket jumps nowadays when they can't get to you otherwise. Another awesome feature is they SPAM at the last location they saw you. It makes them about 100% more human-like and fun to play against.
-"New link to Friends List overlay in the in-game menu, to access friends, chats, invites, and Join Match URL." (straight from the update)
-teamkills complaint system returns (not that I played a lot of TDM)
-new/returning game modes, for me esp. 1-flag, A&D and race
-the Invite Monitor
-showing how many players/how much health was left at the end of a CA round
-also the draw by health/draw by living players options! very nice, very useful.
-CA on CTF arenas
-weapon config functionality!
-start a match presets!
-infected! (and silent fright)
-certain cvars, e.g. cg_preferredStartingWeapons

-probably a ton of small optimizations and map fixes etc. that you wouldn't remember/never noticed

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CPM Masters 2014 in the makings. (103 comments)
Posted by EKSelenc @ 13:02 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
November 2013 was a great month for cpma Promode. Not only did we hold the first Cup with a decent prize pool in a long time, but we also managed to fund it well enough to actually become the highest stakes' event ever in the history of the favorite title. What's more important, we stated, as a matter of fact, that we are capable of making such kind of thing happen all by ourselves, starting from the donations and through to the winners announcement. Love and passion for the game has been retained throughout the whole tourney, bringing spectators some of the finest jewels to marvel at, including matchups between veterans and newer players, adepts of different playstyles and approaches.

It is now time to get prepared for CPM Masters 2014. The next Cup is to start on late November, with finals being closed out somewhat at the end of the year.

Donations are accepted via PayPal to from anyone willing to take part or show some support for CPMA CPM. Any sum is welcome, but this time the goal should probably be trying to beat last year's pool of $1,400.

As for the tournament's format, the discussion is currently open to the community.

We welcome any members of the community to share thoughts on the upcoming event in the comments or on #masterscup. A news post on ESR will be made once the details has been worked out.

Show your love for Promode once again! Donate for Masters Cup to be big this year.
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Faceit New Cup Format (50 comments)
Posted by easytarget @ 12:47 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
Hi to everyone, I know it has been awhile since we have done any updates in regards to Quake Live on our site. Well I am happy to announce that we have changed our cup format completely in order to offer our beloved Quake Live community the chance at some free daily cups. Please refer to the schedule below or visit us on the Faceit Site.

We have also decided to bring back and promote the beloved team aspect of Quake Live with some 4v4 TDM/CTF Cups every second Sunday, in the early evenings. These events will be held bi-weekly with the first event being TDM in EU and CTF in N.A. The first event will be at 11:00 CDT, 14 September 2014 in EU and in NA at 18:00 CDT, 14 September 2014 . We are hoping that some of the players who normally play and stream would be willing to help out and sign a team up and stream these events in EU.

Feedback in regards to these changes is always of course welcomed and we would like to know what you all are thinking. All of our cups will still be played in the Quake Live "Classic" style of play, they are still Bo1 until the Semi-Finals and Final which is Bo3. With all of the major updates that have occurred and are still coming, at this time we are not able to add any new Quake Live accounts to FACEIT Profiles. This is due to changes in the Quake Live API, which our systems are not yet in line with. Hopefully this issue will soon be resolved and very soon new Quake Live accounts can be added to profiles again.

Links:, mIRC #FACEIT, Facebook FACEITCommunity, Twitter @FACEIT, YouTube FACEITcom
Edited by easytarget at 15:08 CDT, 1 September 2014 - 1757 Hits
125 FPS September League, qualifications (39 comments)
Posted by Nico_QD @ 09:23 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
Scheduled: 12:00 CDT, 2 September 2014 to 14:00 CDT, 2 September 2014
Ends In:

The 125 FPS Project is proud to announce 125 FPS September'14 QuakeLive Duel Season! As usual huge thanks to our sponsor Alexey A from the Moscow region and to the rest of the donators as well.

Cup Admins: Nico, []34[], Xron, Green (search on IRC or write to
Streams: United Kingdom ZLive Russia elder_ru, Russia 102
Links: Cup Website, mIRC #125fps
Edited by Nico_QD at 15:37 CDT, 1 September 2014 - 2734 Hits
RICKROLLERS Duel cup (1 comment)
Posted by adem @ 07:16 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
Scheduled: 07:30 CDT, 7 September 2014 to 12:00 CDT, 7 September 2014
Begins In:

Poland KeRpaL proudly presents warsow Warsow RICKROLLERS Duel cup with prizes at 7th of September, Sunday. Everybody are welcome to participate.

Stream: TBA
Links: Sign Up, // mIRC #RICKROLLERS
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Quakelive Demos (2 comments, locked)
Posted by CMSS @ 06:37 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
[ I MIGHT of missed a thread about this already so sorry if im repeating, however... ]

So, as the udpates for quakelive have come, i can no longer view the demos i have got since the update. (older demos are fine)

Is there a way to solve this or do the developers of WOLFCAM have to sort it out
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Quakelive Bug? (46 comments)
Posted by CMSS @ 06:19 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
So i tested the new FFA and at Red Armour i came across this. (during game not on wolfcam)


what is it? :O
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Question re: Essentials 4 CS-GO newbs (8 comments)
Posted by p3l3.dynodeath @ 05:27 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
Just asking what to look out for or do? or any useful commands like console or binds etc?
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Probation (9 comments)
Posted by CMSS @ 02:48 CDT, 1 September 2014 - iMsg
Im off probation

Edited by xou at 03:54 CDT, 1 September 2014 - 243 Hits
has anyone actualyl tested hmg lg 1v1s (54 comments)
Posted by oreozz @ 22:37 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg
cause i was losing to someone not very good when i was lging vs hmg the other day and then i started using the hmg and was killing him. and its not like i was dodging badly and my lg acc was 51%

fluke? differences in weapon push? i didnt play for very long so it could have easily been a fluke. it was a first impression kind of thing since I was just seeing what the changes were like.
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Huge phone hack - tons of naked celeb (77 comments)
Posted by Shin-obi @ 19:55 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg
photos released
this is going to be huge news soon
nsa agent leaking this would be a crazy story

my guess on how it happened is that they all used compromised wifi somewhere. be safe and use a vpn or ssh, faggots

this is the full list from the hacker.

edit: not one [+] yet
screw you guys
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Site summary for week ending 29 Aug (No comments)
Posted by ESReality @ 18:00 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg
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cg_placebo cvar (26 comments)
Posted by kevlark @ 17:01 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg
What changes cvar "cg_placebo"? Does work "cg_placebo" in wolfcamql?
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Warxon 50€ FFA Saturday Contest (16 comments)
Posted by extone @ 16:42 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg
Contest details:
Game: Warxon pre-alpha
Gamemode: FFA
Date and time: 06.09.2014 20:00 MSK
Server: TBA in EU, all games are gonna be played on one server, if there will be several locations available server might be selected by pre-contest voting among participants
Prize: 50 EUROS for 1st place
Mappool: Afterslime, Atelier, Skyward, Strength, Oilrig (, Xtn, Opium)
Players: 12-16

Rules: Contest consisted of 2 rounds. In first round players are separated into 2 groups of 6-8 players. In each group first 5 maps are played and 3-4 players with best scores are going to the next final round where 7 maps are played. For first place in any map players gets 4 points, for 2nd – 3 points, for 3rd – 2 points, for 4th – 1 point. Score is calculated as sum of points on all maps. If scores are the same overall scores are taken into account. The winner is defined by best score in final round. Timelimit 15 min, fraglimit 50 frags. There might be rules changes prior to contest. Any possible unexpected/ambiguous situations are gonna be resolved by admin.

IRC: #Warxon @ QuakeNet

If you want to participate leave here a comment. I will select players based on their experience and give link for game download.
I’m looking for additional servers for contest in EU. If you want to provide one please leave here comment too. Server owner will participate in contest automatically =)

EDIT: description of all trick elements for those who dont want to dig into website =)
most of game cvars are the same as here
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Quakelive duel and other maps, for quake (24 comments)
Posted by wem420 @ 14:06 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg
Hi I was able to find ZTN for quake 3 . does anyone have other maps that have been remade for quake 3 duel?

Like Sinister, Silence, Furious Heights, Cure, house of decay, phrantic, Toxicity, Hektic? I don't have internet for a normal computer so I must today play quickly now

here is the ztn i found, to get this rolling thanks!
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So... are the sunday FACEIT cups done? (5 comments)
Posted by 8952341 @ 10:19 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg
or on break till next season?

havent seen them on since the pre-quakecon about 2 months ago
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quakecon (2 comments)
Posted by Luko1L @ 09:13 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg
Hello friends. Maybe someone of you who is playing quake for a long time , remember the quakecon where some guy with nikname Killer or something like this somehow managed to pass the ffa qualifications and get into the groupstage. Then stream showed his game which was extremely low level. Is there any demo or video from this match ? Thx
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MASTERS CUP 2013 PREVIEW - HAL_9000 (3 comments)
Posted by mouse* @ 09:12 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Rating: 9 (6 votes)
I dont think anyone has posted this here before.

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sc2 rage (27 comments)
Posted by Vium @ 06:21 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg

starts at around 1:00.
Need more of this.
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Darude Sandstorm Floppy Drive Remix (No comments)
Posted by 7ep3s @ 04:27 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg
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Quakelive update messed up sens - why! (13 comments)
Posted by XiomaraGel @ 01:36 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg
Quakelive update from 27 august, has messed up my sens/accel wtf!

What did they do to mess it up? Have sens and accel values been tweaked?

Anyone knows how to get back to the previous version feel?
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Quakelive is so dumb now (76 comments)
Posted by mray557 @ 01:03 CDT, 31 August 2014 - iMsg
Just uninstalled the game and convinced all my friends to do so as well. There are only 2 public servers with the same 10-16 players in every match. They downgraded the game and now the game seems pointless and unchallenging.

RIP quakelive. I hope a new FPS comes out soon as I will never redownload quakelive again.

Also cancelled pro membership renewal.
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Combined movie BIG FIX! (9 comments)
Posted by kevlark @ 22:22 CDT, 30 August 2014 - iMsg
Edited by kevlark at 17:29 CDT, 31 August 2014 - 407 Hits
Wickland Beta (34 comments)
Posted by moto1 @ 22:11 CDT, 30 August 2014 - iMsg

Wickland is a competitive, first person, dueling game and the goal is very simple, kill your opponent. Both players start as human characters with the ability to morph into other beast characters that are scattered around the map. The beasts are unique, which means that once a beast has been taken by a player, it will not respawn until the beast has been killed. When a beast is killed however, it will respawn after 15 seconds at the same location where it was first picked up. Other types of items are also available and placed strategically around the map. Potions restore your health while armor restore your armor value, with armor absorbing 80% of all incoming damage. Potions will respawn every 35 seconds, while armor will respawn every 25 seconds. Armor and potions are very important resources to help players succeed in defeating their opponents; therefore, learning how to time and fight for items are important skills to master!

It also contains a walljumping movement system, allowing you to gain speed by walljumping, and keep that speed by continuing to jump.

A great ability that all characters have access to is the ability to wall jump. Wall jumping is simple to execute but difficult to master. Simply jump towards a wall at a slight angle, while holding down any directional key, and hit jump again as you touch the wall. Player will gain a temporary boost in speed when executing a wall jump. To maintain this speed boost, quickly jump again upon landing. This skill is vital in chasing or retreating from opponents, and if done right, a player can quickly traverse the whole map within seconds.

All the weapons are similar to Quake ones, with different melee attack speeds and damages. The change in the weapon system allows for a lot of differences
you can now have a weapon that your opponent cannot.
Suddenly armor becomes a decision, your health is the same between all beasts, but your armor is specific to each beast. Your Sorcerer can have 50 armor while your Assassin can have 100.
If you're about to get hit by something, you can switch to a weaker beast to take the damage on a less needed weapon, saving more armor for a better weapon.
You do see a big blood explosion when someones beast dies, so you know when one is killed
Since the game ends when a players health is 0, games can last two minutes or ten minutes, or longer.

It's a free download right now, it's Greenlit on steam so we can see what happens.

it's pretty fun and enjoyable, their ideas for how duel should be in their game is interesting too, they talk about how they want it to represent more of a dojo, giving more of a community feel to the game.

To ease new players into this competitive mindset, we are experimenting ideas where players need to feel that they are part of a team, a clan, or a club that is similar to a Kendo club, where the members involved belong under the same dojo, under the same “sensei”. When it comes to competing, the dojo will organize line-ups such that the students who fight each other are somewhat equal in skill, and overall, as a team, tries to win the competition as each member tries their best to score in their own individual 1 on 1 matches. This “common” goal, or team-oriented achievement can make the game a much more social experience that can help bring in new players to enjoy 1 on 1 game type that they may otherwise not. This is a very interesting dynamic that isn’t incorporated in competitive FPS games, and it is much more interesting for our small team to explore than to simply add game modes from existing games. There are many things we can learn from traditional 1 on 1 sports, and the worst thing to do for our game is to look at the other FPS games out there, and become a copy cat by simply cloning modes that have been done to death before.
Edited by moto1 at 22:12 CDT, 30 August 2014 - 714 Hits
Fisherman Skill Level Increase (4 comments)
Posted by Bridge2Babylon @ 21:52 CDT, 30 August 2014 - iMsg

Perch and Bass.
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Gears of War Tournament on Twitch (16 comments)
Posted by Shin-obi @ 14:45 CDT, 30 August 2014 - iMsg

gears is like a modernized quake for consoles. theres a movement system and lots of glitches to learn. there's even timing involved.
if you're hardcore at quake than gears should be up your alley.

this is my first gears tournament, so i have no clue if it will be any fun.
Edited by Shin-obi at 14:51 CDT, 30 August 2014 - 412 Hits
Quake III or Reflex? (68 comments)
Posted by emph` @ 14:05 CDT, 30 August 2014 - iMsg
This thread is only for people that are leaving QL due the major changes.

Hypothetically, which game would you rather play?

- Quake III
- Reflex

Also, I think more people will choose Reflex due the game having a better netcode than Q3 but at the same time still resembling the Q3.

P.S. I had to do the poll like this because I didn't know how to do the poll on esr.
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My only gripe... (29 comments)
Posted by skint @ 12:02 CDT, 30 August 2014 - iMsg
My only gripe with the new QL update is how shit FFA has become. I know I said as long as you play Duel or pickup TDM/CTF then nothing really changes but the FFA is awful now. I've tried spawning my own FFA servers with classic mode but no-one joins =(
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I played 2hrs of FFA without ammo boxes! (81 comments)
Posted by nvc @ 08:08 CDT, 30 August 2014 - iMsg part 1 (wrong mic selected) part 2!profile/matches/nvc

13:47 frs • nvc
13:47 frs • why do you refuse to pick up ammo boxes in ffa?
13:57 +nvc • i must have missed what the ammo boxes were
13:57 +nvc • what do they look like rofl
13:57 +nvc • i played for like 3 hours and i still dont know
14:00 +nvc • wait are they the white ones frs ?
14:01 +nvc • woops :D
14:01 +nvc • they just looked like regular boxes for a specific weapon i subconsiously thought existed
14:02 +nvc • hahahaah
14:02 +nvc • oh god that's stupid of me
14:02 +nvc • im watching this vod back now
14:02 +nvc • its because there's so many dropped weapons on the floor
14:02 +nvc • i just picked that up and used it

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Support for gfy cat video embedding (4 comments)
Posted by MajkiFajki @ 07:11 CDT, 30 August 2014 - iMsg
Could we have support for this

This is webm format for videos, much better than gif.
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bots make shitty moves now (18 comments)
Posted by kukkii @ 01:52 CDT, 30 August 2014 - iMsg
after the update, bots tent to make super long strafe.
before the update, "bot_thinktime 0" made them to make small strafes and it was good for practicing some hitscan weappons.
now it's so shitty and completely useless.
I have tried some models but all of them do the same.

Do you guys happen to know how to fix this issue?
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K1llsen spotted! (55 comments)
Posted by qwih @ 20:03 CDT, 29 August 2014 - iMsg
I joined CA a server randomly and boom, b45h0r1z0r was HMGing my ass!

\o/ K 1 L L S E N <3 <3 <3
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A call to arms (184 comments)
Posted by Eldrek @ 12:19 CDT, 29 August 2014 - iMsg
If you're unsatisfied with the new direction of quakelive I invite you to join me in voting with your wallet. Cancel sub renewal and hammer support with refund requests. Begin converting back to Q3. It's the only way.
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Play more QuakeWorld! :D (59 comments)
Posted by H1ghlander @ 11:56 CDT, 29 August 2014 - iMsg
Waiting for ReflexFPS and new QL is retarded?

Play more QuakeWorld :P - probably the only thing you need

some textures


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Beer suggestion (85 comments)
Posted by _agu @ 10:40 CDT, 29 August 2014 - iMsg
So I will start with the beer style that I love, the creamy beer:




What kinda beer do you like?
Note: please do mention the name of the beer also, not only the type of it.
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CPMA 1.49b? (15 comments)
Posted by ger1e @ 09:10 CDT, 29 August 2014 - iMsg
So now with QL going down the shitter, may I ask if any of you know any future plan for CPM?

This beta version already has ch_crosshairhitcolor and what not. Pretty old as it is, but people still use 1.48
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How will steam QL account work ? (18 comments)
Posted by Infuscomus @ 09:06 CDT, 29 August 2014 - iMsg
Me again, sorry.

I was wondering if someone had any information as to how the QL account system will work on Steam.

Will our Steam account be directly connected to our QL account - thus allowing us to change our name by changing our Steam nick like one can already do in other games for instance - or will they be independent, making it easy to have multiple accounts like it is now ?

Is QL going to be Steam dependant only or will it still be working as a standalone launcher ?

note : I don't play a lot of games actually so I might be unaware of the multiple options various games offer on Steam...
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How put 400dpi on g100s driver??? (16 comments)
Posted by Veis @ 05:37 CDT, 29 August 2014 - iMsg
How can i do?
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Posted by reply_to_#1 @ 04:50 CDT, 29 August 2014 - iMsg
i really miss - the english version of

just realized, not even the russian version is beeing updated.
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The real changes Qlive needs. (36 comments)
Posted by stork @ 03:03 CDT, 29 August 2014 - iMsg
Hi all. A Lot of changes have been implemented in quakelive recently. There are many discussions whether it good or bad changes. I think that gameplay changes are bad and it won’t attract new players to the game cause new player gonna die as quickly in FFA as they did before.

I just want to you my thoughts with you on the “Real changes” that Qlive needs.

What are the current problems with Qlive?
1. Bad ranking and matchmaking system
2. Lack of tutorials for newcomers

Did last update change any of this?

NO! Trying to make the game easier to play is not a good strategy. Blizzard did it to StarCraft:BroodWar (SC:BW) and who the fuck likes StarCraft 2 now. Right, no one.

So, what can we do to make quake more fun to play for oldschools and new players?

Have you read 2 problems quakelive has now as I wrote above? We should implement easy matchmaking and decent rating systems. Not this 4 tiers shit we have now. As a high tier CA player its hard to find a decent match without 1600 elo guys who knows really nothing on how to play CA. No positioning, 31lg and spamming rockets/nades everywhere – really no fun having 3 teammates like this. Same regarding duel mode. I mean I have sometimes “green games” with someone like Claws waiting to play. Like WTF? Its 1600 elo vs 2200 elo. Nice “green match”. Well its okay when you are at least above 1500 elo so you can aim/position/time. But imagine how newcomers feel the game. They join “green” or “yellow” match and end it like 0-45. Noone wants to play a game like this when you just get annihilated over and over.

So how can we solve this without changing gameplay?
I truly believe that a ladder system StarCraft: BroodWar players was using is the best one. Why? Cause SC:BW is like quake but RTS. SC:BW is also a damn hard game to play and hard to start cause oldschools will just rape you in every game. But it had a damn good ladder system. Check it out:
This system perfectly works on 1x1 mode, teambased modes, country and clans ranking.

So the year is divided into seasons – like 3 month is 1 season. Everyone starts on 1000 rating (D rank) and climbing the ladder up to A+ or Ultimate rank. When season ends all points are reset and you start from D rank again. This thing helps you to track your progress from season to season – you see that you ended with 3455 points (C-) last season and now you have like 3800 points in the middle on the season. THIS THING REALLY WORKS. I mean ELO is a nice thing but who the fuck cares on ELO? But you will care on every win/lose with that ladder system.

At the end of the season you can make some tourney with TOP3 players of TOP6 countries or smth like this. Just check the the iccup site to see how well you can track Clans/countries/teammodes.

Just spawn servers like (D/D+/C- ztn/dm6/sini join) – and add a pregame window. So the player1(d+) can see the player2(c-) joins the server:
P1: ready?
P2: gogo
QUAKELIVE: The game is starting…

I believe its pretty easy to do. Add ladder (with limited maps) and non-ladder servers, allow players to spawn server, make chat channels and pre-game window. This will add competition to game, allow low skill players play vs about the same level (+/-) and high tier players to play vs about the same level of players.


Secondly, please make a good matchmaking system as well. Something like I wrote above.

Okay. Tutorials.

Even Q3 had a better tutorial that qlive has. Just make a tutorial maps for newcomers where they can practice strafe, aim, RJ, some quake tricks. It could be just a few defrag/ffa maps with announcer saying all the staff new players need to know about quake. Plus add just a new cfgs they can chose from. Let them know that can bind weapons on any key, some useful tips on sens, accel etc. I mean that’s not a lot of work – just do it. Once new player knows all this staff, killed some bots (make them less stupid) he can try to play some ladder games – but like D rank vs D rank, not D vs B+. I am sure he is gonna love this game cause its great.

Chat and channels

I am not even going to explain why you have to add it. Just do it.

P.S.: Bethesda please don’t kill Quake.
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They must really like rapha. (9 comments)
Posted by Vig1lante @ 01:16 CDT, 29 August 2014 - iMsg
Damn they must really like him.
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Looking for 2v2 TDM games (No comments)
Posted by Vig1lante @ 01:07 CDT, 29 August 2014 - iMsg
Wonder where i can find some NA players interested in some 2v2 TDM games?

asides from the amount of shit i have to deal with im always looking for some decent 2v2 tdm games online or by #NATDM.QL @ qnet.
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Statistics of Porn Online. (16 comments)
Posted by _agu @ 22:03 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg

Honestly folks, this is very interesting! hahaha!
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Remarks (improvements?) about dmgdisplay (32 comments)
Posted by Infuscomus @ 16:37 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
This is not a flaming thread, I'm just here to propose a discussion about dmg display.

I played a bit in practice mode and I saw this new thing, the damage display. I found it pretty useless and RPG-style at first and then I thought it was probably meant to give some insight to the players for him to evaluate better the stack of his opponent (may id never implement something to see the enemy life, but who knows what a "modern" fps should be...).

Then, okay, but why did they choose this way of displaying damage when it comes to mg / lg / hmg and especially shotgun.

I think it would be more efficient, and smarter, if dmg would add up. For instance, if you hit 5 pellets with your shotgun, why not display 25 dmg instead of 5 small "5" ?

Same with the mg, lg and so on. The sound is already telling you when you hit, so, if you hit a player with let's say 10 LG cells in a row. Why not display 60 dmg instead of 10x6 ?

I think it could be a better way to display damage. What do you think ? I don't see any point in displaying 10 x 5 when I shoot with the shotgun, I don't have the time to count them all actually since they disappear pretty fast.

Also, I'd like to add that I think this shouldn't be authorised in classic, because classic is supposed to be where you have to master the game and evaluating the enemy stack is an important feature of the game strategy. Thus, facilitating the evaluation might somewhat lower this strategy aspect.
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No one talking about CTF? (107 comments)
Posted by magadog @ 14:56 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
CTF completely sucks now. Classic CTF is unranked. So this might be the final nail in the coffin for CTF.

In Q3, ctf was very popular, and ctf servers remained the last servers that were well populated.

I feel like QL killed CTF with proximity mines and all the other TA bullshit, and now this is the final nail in the coffin.

No one is even talking about CTF now, one of the funnest game types, because id messed it up and never bothered to fix it.

And the reason CTF sucks now, for those who need elaboration, the new changes make ctf purely an aim and fighting skill game now. Because any idiot can run past an item timer and see that it is about to spawn and wait for it. Now players that had strong timing skill have no edge.

The new changes won't help newbs. Newbs will still be clueless. It just helps the mindless players pickup items and shifts more importance upon aim.

I do like the fact that they got rid of the TA BS FINALLY. But it was years too late.
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Fishing Quest (5 comments)
Posted by Bridge2Babylon @ 14:11 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
I went fishing this morning and caught this fine specimen. It's a "channel cat" catfish from our local Trinity River. Behold.
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The true story behind twitch and amazon. (25 comments)
Posted by sucky sucky 5 dolla @ 14:01 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
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Bridge to Rail in 2014 (45 comments)
Posted by megaman3 @ 12:52 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
In the latest QL update.

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DELETE (5 comments)
Posted by Sed @ 12:27 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
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cheaters are allowed? (19 comments)
Posted by shyne @ 12:18 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
Hello, does anybody know why cheaters are allowed and every new account gets banned for no reason? Also I get no reply from sponge or sasparillo or when I ask them about my ban after 5 games? I even uploaded demo's...still no reply.. and I think they even banned my ip from #quakelive on irc :D rofl

lol look this : this guy is cheating for a while now:!profile/summary/Tacho66

check a couple of his last games haha.

So id what's up with that?

too busy banning new accounts?
You are killing quake thx
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War in Ukraine (190 comments)
Posted by aiken @ 11:46 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg

It has began :/. Putin still lying all the time.
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Quake Live forum nazi admins (7 comments)
Posted by poros1ty @ 11:16 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
LMAO. I think Sasparillo gets himself hard by giving out infractions. Harassment, defamation, and infraction for inappropriate language because I said "shit" which was filtered anyways.

You have been banned for the following reason:
Harassing or Defamatory

Date the ban will be lifted: 08-31-2014, 04:00 PM

Dear poros1ty,

You have received an infraction at QUAKE LIVE Forums.

Reason: Harassing or Defamatory


This infraction is worth 3 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:

Don't worry, I'll be sure to give it this game a horrible review on steam as soon as it is released.

Dear poros1ty,

You have received an infraction at QUAKE LIVE Forums.

Reason: Inappropriate Language


This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:

Not gonna even bother to play FFA with these **** settings. Default setting is a horrible idea. This is what happens when the game is run by newbs.
---End Quote---
All the best,
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Played a few games today...feel insulted (67 comments)
Posted by Lolzy @ 10:35 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
Bear with me.

1) Automatic bunnyhop. This is so retarded it simply has to be removed. Seriously? We spent months to get movement good and timed. We spent years getting all tricks perfected.
Now the simple basic thing that everybody should be able to perform after some training is AUTOMATIC. Really? Are players that dumb now?

2) LOLadouts. This makes every game with them an easy cake for any veteran. Imagine, you don't have to get across the map to get LG or that overpowered new thingamajig for example(more on that in the next point), you GET IT FOR FREE. What is this shit for, I don't know. It's supposed to make newbies not vulnerable after spawn? If so GJ idiots, because this makes us veterans even MORE able to kill them. I get spawned with LG or HMG, I rack up frags from the start. Because, you see, the player still hast ho have SKILL to use the gun. GJ!

3) Heavy Mental Gun. This weapon looks nt that bad, albeit out of place when compared to other guns in QL. But that's a minor point. The real lol is: Hitscan, long range, 8 dmg. Also, available for loadout. Try to play any space map with it, or better AGAINST it. Just try. Also, in FFA that gun is a total joke, allows for farming everyone around without any special skill. LG required you to be much more precise, and had medium range. Required skill. This pepper gun is just a game-breaker.

4) AMMO PACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! AGHUEXJFDSAFK!!!! This is where I began to explode. I mean, no more using brains? ammo packs for all of the shit? Holy crapeiro? Yeah, because learning different colors of ammo boxes and memorizing their placement was SO DIFFICULT. Is this game for retarded/disabled people?

5) No team damage? Nowhere? Are you...ahh. My brains topped working. I just hear a howling sound in my head, asking why, why, WHY? TD required you to THINK and AIM well. Because otherwise you killed or damaged your very own teamamtes. Can't have that with no-brain spamming noobs, can we.

6) Reduced ammo respawn. WTF? Let's get better! Let's make ammo NEVER DISAPPEAR! This way we will solve the problem of ammo packs forever! - this is a mental note for monkeys who devised this idea. I bet the next update will make ammo packs never expire. I mean, counting your ammo is for idiots, right? let's spam with neverending stream of ammo, right? RIGHT? Jesus Christ on a very long fucking stick, this is really a brilliant idea. MOAR WEAPON, MOAR AMMO!

7) Powerup POIs/item timers. Oh, here we go. Back in the day you had to know the VERY DIFFICULT and SO MYSTICAL times for all items and PUs. It was so hard some of us died. Really. Not.
Given how anyone past first grades of elementary should count well at the very least up to 100, the issue of these measly seconds was no problem for anyone. It was a matter of learning the times and keeping them. Something akin to taking your dog for a walk periodically.
But no, they had to remove that too. REMOVE THIS SIMPLE THING THAT ANY IDIOT CAN MASTER with a little bit of incentive and will. How's that? Man, now even a very dumb monkey (because even normal monkeys CAN COUNT) can play this game. We are all saved.

8) Icing on the cake: Classic is unranked. NORMAL QUAKE IS UNRANKED. Good, how nice. The noob friendly version that requires a tiny amount of skill needed to master original Quake allows you to hit insane accuracies and get easy wins. The mode that actually requires skill matters not, no stats. What for? Apparently, for the devs, If you play oldschool version you're so well versed in game mechanics that you should count all stats in your head. No hand-holding. REAL DEAL. Lol.

To summarize:

-This update won't bring new players because it allows veterans to be even more deadly. Because it is a lot easier.
-This update is for idiots who can't count, can't move and can't learn anything more than +forward and +fire.
-This update causes players who want to learn and old playerbase to leave in droves because it breaks every aspect of QL.

I TOLD THIS BEFORE, I WILL REPAT IT. What for, I don't know.

You idiots, you broke the game. id Software made Q3A and it was good. Then you started improving it. You ironed out bugs, fine. You added some shit, removed some thit, fine. Changed guns, fucked up but okay let's give you benefit of the doubt. But you started to CHANGE TOO MUCH.

You see, your basic playerbase was people who played Quake in its old iterations. They were used to oldschool mechanics, mainly because they SIMPLY WORKED for over a decade. How's that. I told it so many times that the only way for QL to stay alive is KEEP IT AS AN OLDSCHOOL NICHE FPS. With time, the players would come and the oldschools would stay and be happy. I told you that you should advertise it as a fast-paced, hard game for real men. Take this: If somebody is a fag who cant play, he will be a fag whether he plays DisabledQuake or QL or Q3A or QW. If somebody wants to learn, he will learn. If somebody wants to get better, he will.

But no, you decided to make it nnob friendly. As if such thing was even possible. You decided to make an easy route for you, forgetting that you're no Warsow or other BS. QUAKE is an enterprise and a LABEL that's been onboard the PC gaming bandwagon since 1996. It was a heritage to be proud of and expand upon. It had a huge, loyal playerbase of oldschool Quakers who were more than happy to jump back into the game.

Yet you blew it all away. You overthought it, pals. You overworked it. You overshot the target. Now you will pay. Your target customers are already leaving in droves, and noobs will get bored after few games and quit back to BF or COD.

Good job, please do a standing ovation for id. NOT.
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The unspoken debate (everything but LG) (84 comments)
Posted by n0cturn3 @ 07:03 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
Everyone seems to be obsessed with the LG dmg change , I don't mind the LG nerf, it's still a powerful weapon. I wanted to share some thoughts on the other changes.

Except in duel, this doesn't affect gameplay, most players already know how much damage weapons do. If anything, it's a positive change, new players won't have to look at a guide to learn how much damage each weapon does. It's also possible to disable this, which really should be forced (at least as a server option) in duels.

Item timers
This is actually a nice change. Initially my thoughts on this were, they're just dumbing this down...
However, the timers are vague enough that it still requires a bit of map awareness to show up on time, while at the same time making it less likely for one player to hog items. This is a nice balance.

Heavy Machine Gun
I get why this was created, I get why they didn't just alter mg dmg. But this gun is completely overpowered. I know, I know, it does less dps than lg. But lg has a falloff range, hmg is like a slightly less powerful lg that hits across a large map, use this weapon on an open map like hells gate and then try and tell me it isn't overpowered.

I'm not familiar enough with other game modes affected by this, so I'll discuss FFA. It's never before been possible to start a quake match with an advantage over other players. You all get random spawns, the same weapons etc. Now, selecting a different load out, far from levelling the playing field, is creating a huge imbalance in gameplay. With everyone spawning with powerful weapons, you're going to get fragged more often, giving you less of a chance to get more ammo or a decent weapon. But more importantly, depending on the map, one loadout might be more effective than another loadout, so there's an inherent imbalance before the game even starts. You might argue this is a new skill people should learn, which loadout to select based on the map, but then you're just making this more difficult for new players, not easier.

Both the ammo respawn time (10 seconds across all types) and universal ammo are poor design decisions.
This may not seem like such a bad idea, but it removes yet another skill from the quake players reportoire. You can no longer deny an ammo crate, or trap players going for ammo for specific weapons.

I'm surprised they didn't do away with health bubbles and switch to regenerative health. Keeping track of where hp is on the map, too difficult for new players. Of course, health bubbles can be used as a trap, if someone is low you might predict they'll make their way to a bubble, fire a rocket etc. Maybe this feature is next.

The classic rule set physics has been altered, it feels like pql lite. Movement is faster, there's stair jumping or whatever it's called. You can jump on top of another player when standing right next to them without any height advantage. I'm running around maps bumping into walls because the movement feels so different. Why wasn't this change mentioned anywhere? Is it a bug, is it intentional?

There also seem to be a few bugs in duel classic. Hells gate and asylum aren't regular duel maps, but there's no reason why these should be spawning the HMG in classic mode. You can disable hmg spawning, but then you're left with an empty spawn for RL (on asylum) and they've moved the SG on hells gate, which is in a less exposed position now.

If you want new players to stick with the game, let them learn it like everyone else did. With a decent single player progression with options for different difficulties. Surely this can't be hard to implement, and it would let you keep the game as is, without messing with a formula that's proven successful over 14 years.
Edited by n0cturn3 at 15:43 CDT, 28 August 2014 - 2069 Hits
Where is Forever these days? (7 comments)
Posted by nemecel @ 06:56 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
Where is that dutch (i think) guy? He used to play Q4 at top level. And also, where's Lost Cauze? are the playing something?
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gaiia | CPMA World Champion 2013 (191 comments)
Posted by DEZ_ @ 03:01 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Rating: 8.9 (183 votes)
This is a CPMA fragmovie about Finland gaiia created by Russia Lunokhod-2 (special thanks for help in creating to Russia DEZ).

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How to get a girl in 5 steps! (44 comments)
Posted by ZhuMusic @ 02:22 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
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#SWATTED (11 comments)
Posted by zb0t @ 01:12 CDT, 28 August 2014 - iMsg
(don't do it guys)

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renaming turbo suggestions (34 comments)
Posted by qwih @ 22:16 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
so pql is now called turbo. And it is dreadfull. It sounds like a dog name, and a bad one. So it's time to step up and come up with something decent ourselves.

first thing from the top of my head: Futuristic Quake
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new update and demos (12 comments)
Posted by reply_to_#1 @ 20:48 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
renaming them to dm_90 and playing them crashes my game
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New cvars for August 2014 update (57 comments)
Posted by Yakumo @ 19:29 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
0 off
1 all
2 major items only.


1 damage colours that fade out to transparent,
2 damage colours (colour matches crosshairdamage),
3 it matches the weapon icon colours.

The three settings from the advanced game menu give :
all set:
cg_damagePlum "g mg sg gl rl lg rg pg bfg gh cg ng pl hmg"

or for just AoE (area of effect) it's set to
cg_damagePlum "sg gl rl pg bfg"

or off:
clearcvar cg_damagePlum

obviously you can tailor it to be for any weapons you like by editing out what you don't want from the list above

"cg_simpleItemsBob", "cg_damagePlum" may not autocomplete in the console at first until they're set but these are correct, it's 'plum' not 'plums'.

0 disables hold +moveup to keep hopping
1 default.
It's pretty much unoticable if you're used to QL movement, but you may want to use this to force autohop off on your client.

0 off
1 hidden when not looking through a wall
2 default, see through walls.

/bind x "weapon 14"
The Heavy Machine Gun (HMG)

/bind x "weapon toggle"
Swap between primary and secondary loadout weapon.
It always goes to primary first from any other weapon, unless you're already on primary then it swaps to secondary as you'd expect.
You can't direct bind secondary, you can only double tap the toggle key but doing this won't give two weapon changes, it will go straight to secondary.
You can hack a bind to secondary bind x "weapon toggle;weapon toggle" but this will not work if you're on your primary weapon.

It's not new, but it is now allowed on all default severs, with a 1 second spawn penalty.

seta wp "rl"
seta ws "sg"
The loadout menu sets these, or you can currently script it your self to control your weapon primary, and weapon secondary, then you need to /kill to receive them.

all of these are in the in game menus, except for the autohop option

New for HUD files:
widescreen 0

As far as I'm aware that's all that was added, I'll edit this post if any more come up.

Bonus - how to convert old custom maps
quakelivedec old.pk3 old.pk3

respond yes when it asks about overwriting as you gave the output file the same name as the input. Done, no need to mess about with zip applications or even renaming.
Check the file is still write only though or the launcher will delete it.
The C source is ANSI C and will build and run under linux GCC fine, you don't have to mess about trying to run the included Windows exe if you're using linux.

Play Classic or Turbo in practice
\ruleset 1

2 is turbo
3 is the new one

I'm betting the bots are woeful in Turbo though. lol.
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PCGamer article about recent QL changes (12 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 18:48 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
So if all else fails, at least the word is finally out and people talk about our game.

An editor from PCGamer Andy Chalk posted an article in regards to the community outburst and reaction to latest game changes.

For a fun time, check the comment section.

"They've compared the game with chess, however essentially what they've done is taken the queen out of chess because it's not noob friendly."

"Well. Way to ruin a classic game. Nice work."

"Damn... how newbie friendly do games have to be nowadays... as I recall Quake 3 is about as close to 'insert CD and fire' as you can get. In fact you don't even need to insert the CD any more you can just go to the website and start flailing wildly.

I don't want to be some PC elitist but this is a pretty pathetic case of dumbing down. I mean come on. Dwarf Fortress? Sure. Ikaruga? Yep. Quake...? Come on man..."

Links: Source
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wolfcam broken (13 comments)
Posted by ObiousAlias @ 18:10 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Old demos play fine, new demos don't.

Just says "invalid playerstate field count"
I recopied all files from the baseq3 folder from ql to wolfcam as well.
So much for easy demo viewing.
Edited by ObiousAlias at 18:31 CDT, 27 August 2014 - 695 Hits
PROMODE: gaiia CPMA World Champion (3 comments)
Posted by Smofo @ 17:33 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Rating: 8.8 (3 votes)
Direct download

Try CPM today while QL is for little toddlers!

#cpmduel #cpmpickup #uscpmpickup

Made by Lunokhod
Edited by Smofo at 18:09 CDT, 27 August 2014 - 96 Hits
Strenx does the ALS challenge. (4 comments, locked)
Posted by Whipas @ 17:25 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
So everyones riding the ALS challenge dickride...
Locked by Teen Queen at 18:39 CDT, 27 August 2014 - 407 Hits
Micro movie ffa by HUK (6 comments)
Posted by kevlark @ 16:55 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Last frags by HUK on dm73 demos, dm90 is new format -
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Q4 ZOOM FIX? (6 comments)
Posted by kuruuu @ 16:49 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
I've been using stermys q4 zoom forever, but now with the new update it's totally fucked up. Anyone have any fix for this?
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Edited by _agu at 17:13 CDT, 27 August 2014 - 497 Hits
* N U K E D * (4 comments, locked)
Posted by Nuked User @ 15:25 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
* N U K E D *

Dpi sens accel fov do you use with g100s (5 comments)
Posted by Veis @ 15:08 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Can you tell me wich sens dpi fov and accel do you use with g100s thanks.....
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Sensitivity: QL config exec'd in Q3 (13 comments)
Posted by tsipouro @ 15:01 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
After the QL-update today I installed Quake 3 and CPMA again and exec'd my QL config, just to see if it would work out, and actually, it sort of did. Visually it looks fine. Though, my sensitivity felt way off. It feels too low and mouseaccel feels way too low, it doesn't kick in like in QL. Any troubleshoot ideas?

Also, is there a summary of important commands that can't be ported 1:1 from QL to Q3?

Or is all of this pretty futile, and I should build a q3-cfg from scratch, going through each command seperately?
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Commands for item bob and damage display (17 comments)
Posted by tsipouro @ 13:52 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Hey... So hyped for the new changes -.-

How do I disable the above mentioned, that is the bob of major items when simpleitems is on and the stupid damage display, whenever I hit an opponent... What are the commands?

Many thanks in advance :D
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Level Up TV - We’re Talking It Ep 6 (118 comments)
Posted by Disrepute @ 13:37 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Scheduled: 14:00 CDT, 28 August 2014 to 15:00 CDT, 28 August 2014
Schedule: Passed

Level Up TV is back and hot on the heels of the latest Quake Live update is ready to talk! We have finally reached episode 6 of ‘We’re Talking It’ our topical chat show, and this time it features United Kingdom Disrepute, United Kingdom vor and United Kingdom nvc.

Discussion topics

The Quake Live update, the major changes, the community and our reactions, how it will impact the future of the game... and all the related topics around. We also have some community questions to answer! Tune in on TV1

VOD: Episode, Q&A
Related: Level Up TV - mIRC Twitter Facebook YouTube
Edited by Badb0y at 09:39 CDT, 29 August 2014 - 5808 Hits
I will never play ql again.. (20 comments)
Posted by sucky sucky 5 dolla @ 13:29 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
..without the Heavy Machine Gun, that shit is awesome.
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Should I enter #esreality (2 comments)
Posted by futurist @ 13:09 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
to chat?
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The great debate: nerfed LG. Why? (242 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 12:57 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg

Tried to cut it up and make it as short as possible.

LG is the only weapon that got nerfed, it has no positive effects on beginners OR veterans alike.

I'm trying to find a REASONABLE explanation as to why this happened? What was the though process? Why has no one talked about his and then suddenly "lol lg 2 op"
Edited by Teen Queen at 12:57 CDT, 27 August 2014 - 5577 Hits
Latest update to QL - i hate change, wah (4 comments)
Posted by eburbeck @ 11:58 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
stop crying, duel is still the same.
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Quake Live Update - August 27, 2014 (732 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 11:44 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
The long awaited update that stirred up a lot of heated arguments is finally here, this is one of the first steps towards the transition that will prepare ql Quake Live for the official steam Steam release. The developers included a heartfelt message along with the changelog, instead of the stale config variable and map fixes, this time the impactful changes won't leave anyone unaffected. The mellow message from the developers shines light on a new perspective that you either love or hate. Is this a new beginning or the everlasting end? You decide.
"Quake is a masterful game of skill, often compared to Chess by its veteran players. However, with that depth has come a challenge to welcome and capture new players long enough for them to discover the joy to be found in what many consider the finest Deathmatch game ever made."

Links: Source
Edited by xou at 13:15 CDT, 27 August 2014 - 16559 Hits
QL 2.0 UPDATE IS LIVE NOW (172 comments)
Posted by florekkk @ 11:34 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg!news/site_news/37858
Wanted to play one duel, but ql was offline. After 5 minutes it went on again, they "updated" everything and i think i'm gonna log in only to cancel my subscription.

Share your feels
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QW Claustrophobopolis grand finals (20 comments)
Posted by Teen Queen @ 10:24 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Scheduled: 13:00 CDT, 3 September 2014 to 14:00 CDT, 3 September 2014
Begins In:

Just when you thought old shooters are gone for good, Quake Quakeworld comes up with an exciting one map cup. The tournament has already come to an end, the all-Swedish finals between Sweden LocKtar vs Sweden Xterm will be played on September 3rd at 13:00 CDT. A detailed description of the cup progression and participants is listed below.

Stream: SuddenDeathTV
Links: Source, Get Quake, Brackets and results
Edited by xou at 13:25 CDT, 27 August 2014 - 1490 Hits
The future of quake is so bright (6 comments)
Posted by Oleedee @ 07:26 CDT, 27 August 2014 - iMsg
Dear all,

The future of quake is so bright, because the game is just so fuckign awesome.

The level of most players is just so fucking supernaturaly high, all the young players can really look up to these guys, the dedication and work that goes in to playing like some people do is just mind blowing and a real inspiration. The diversity in the types of characters that emerge in the scene is also an asset and a joy.
Improvments in technologie have made great settups for playing more comonplace so that more players can play the game as its ment to be played, leveling the playing field!

Streeming and all the new comunity created media has given newer players a glimpse into how good players think and practice and generaly what quake is about and what makes it unique and in many ways far superior to most fps games.
So much fun to be had!

I look forward to seeing how we will find a way past this silly period where id and others think they own quake and are determined to fuck it up, when really WE own it now! Mwahahaha
Lets not fall at the final hurdle. Its time to bring quake into a more mature age where computer games gain the same respect and depth of understanding as more historic and established games such as chess. This calls for ease of distribution and a nutral, functional, classy and customisable user interface.

I'm going to start work on harnessing the bitcoin protocol's hashing power to run decentralised super low ping 1v1 servers today. Gimme 5 hours I should have one up and running.

I love you all! litteraly.
Yours sincerely, oboblower2
Edited by Oleedee at 07:36 CDT, 27 August 2014 - 618 Hits
The Extra Life Marathon on October 25th (7 comments)
Posted by Brainie @ 18:28 CDT, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
Some of you might have done an activity through fund-raising. Simply look out for sponsors such as parents, family, friends, and make a marathon such as biking, running, or anything else for a good cause, a cause that you think is good.

... What if you could fight for a good cause from your computer ? Funded in 2008, Extra Life Marathon is a gaming marathon that aims to collect money for the Children’s Miracle Network Hospitals located in USA as well as in Canada. These children suffer from various diseases from cancer to injuries from accidents.

The idea is simple: you find sponsors (parents, family, friends, and so on) who are ready to pay you to play video games for 24 hours and you give back the money to Extra Life who will distribute it to the hospital of your choice (that belongs to CMN). This gaming marathon is starting on October 25th at 8:00 am . Of course you do not need to play 24 hours in a row. You can make a team and make some blocked hours, take breaks, and so on. In other words, you have to play a total of 24 hours to complete this marathon.

So, are you ready to play some Quake, Counter Strike or anything else for a good cause? ;)

What is Extra Life ?
Join the marathon
More explicit post on Reddit's blog
Edited by Brainie at 18:36 CDT, 26 August 2014 - 331 Hits
Reflex needs to look at QW for.. (125 comments)
Posted by Shin-obi @ 17:44 CDT, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
inspiration, not quakelive, if it wants to be a success.*

some things that reflex could copy

quakeworld's faster run speed[400ups with strafing]: this will make rockets and lg harder to land and you will see less jumping, which will make the game less random.

backpacks for tdm would be an improvement over the weapon trading-ffa style tdm from q2, cpm, and ql.

grapplehook ctf? newbies love their devices :)

there are more features that the team could copy from qw, but i'll just leave that for the devteam to find themselves.

and what's up with the hate for cpm 1v1? it's a beautiful game, especially when played on a good map

this is what cpm look likes when played on a good map(cpm15 is the best available in cpm).
not too shabby
better than any of the blowout games from the quakecon finals :)

*quakelive died after just 2 years
everyone wants to blame id software for killing the game, but i believe the gameplay(especially the team gameplay) is why it ultimately failed after 2 years. same thing happened to quake 3

reflex needs to focus on map making, improving the game for hardcore players, and coming up with NEW fun modes for casual players(THE NEXT instagib-type game) if it wants to have a long life as KING.
Edited by Shin-obi at 14:03 CDT, 27 August 2014 - 2359 Hits
Posted by KiNG3 @ 16:18 CDT, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
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Unplayable CA (49 comments)
Posted by bogOtac @ 14:38 CDT, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
Why the hell is the number of 10%accuracy players on t4 servers increasing every day? I know its public ca and there will always be someone with much less skill then the others but seriously it was never like this! Anyone else noticed this ???
How the fuck can they even join the server...
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Russia vs USA - social experiment (44 comments)
Posted by aiken @ 14:23 CDT, 26 August 2014 - iMsg

Hmmm. My country could be somewhere in between these two I guess, but this experiment went really bad in Russia. A reason may be that there are much more drunk people over the streets, but this guy didn't look like a bum. What do you think?
1006 Hits userscript update 1.103 (5 comments)
Posted by PredatH0r @ 12:20 CDT, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
- added /elo profile=x,y,... to open QLRanks profile of players x,y,... in your web browser
mix in "duel", "ca", "tdm" or "ffa" as player name to set the game type for the next real player names
default game type is the current server's or duel, if not connected to a server.

- added a "badge letter" to /elo score indicating the number of games completed (according to the official QL user profile stats):
A-J are in steps of 100, so A=0-99, B=100-199, ... J=900-999
K-Y are in steps of 1000 so K=1000-1999, L=2000-2999
Z is 16000 and anything above

e.g. 1660F means 1660 Elo, with 500-599 games completed

- fixed formatting for red team average
Edited by PredatH0r at 12:22 CDT, 26 August 2014 - 425 Hits
sKaven -vs- stab1lo (No comments)
Posted by mdv @ 12:00 CDT, 26 August 2014 - iMsg

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Rating: 7.5 (1 vote)
Gametype: Duel
Map: N/A
Mod: N/A
Viewpoint: sKaven
How to play back UT2004 demos

grandfinal of the 10 years of ut2004 duel cup. ive made a youtube vod too, with a "multivod" feeling.
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Dawn of the dumb (22 comments)
Posted by daytripper @ 09:42 CDT, 26 August 2014 - iMsg
IQs have not only plateaued in many developed countries around the world – including the UK, Australia, US and in Scandinavian countries – they are actually measurably dropping.

It’s an important enough development for it to be the cover story of this week’s New Scientist magazine, which hits newsstands today.

Dawn of the dumb – scientists say IQs are beginning to fall in the UK

New Scientist: Brain drain: Are we evolving stupidity? (paywall)

I knew it! ;)
Edited by daytripper at 09:46 CDT, 26 August 2014 - 698 Hits

<< Comment #1 @ 18:09 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Finland Danskie 
Why is makaveli in that poll?

since hes already back in quake :)
<< Comment #5 @ 18:23 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #1
Some of the other players are also playing QL at the moment, such as cha0ticz I believe, however, it is nowhere near the competitive scene and as such a comeback could be in order. If Makaveli has made a comeback to the competitive scene and I missed it then he should be removed though :)
Edited by Paladia at 19:17 CDT, 22 October 2009
<< Comment #6 @ 18:27 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Quake mbc  - Reply to #5 though not quite there yet :)
Edited by rift at 23:18 CDT, 22 October 2009
<< Comment #8 @ 18:41 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Czech Republic LukKe  - Reply to #6
you can hardly call that a "comeback to the competitive scene"
<< Comment #250 @ 01:24 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
By stermy bubble_ru  - Reply to #8
He is comeback, like Immortal was comeback for Quake IV lol.
<< Comment #117 @ 11:17 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #6
There's also the russian makaveli, don't know which one the poll is refering too. But the russian makaveli was really good.
-Edit- Looks like he is active again , and still pretty decent looking at his matches -> Rush3Dmakaveli
Edited by Linchpin at 11:23 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #120 @ 11:43 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #117
He's never not been active.
<< Comment #122 @ 12:11 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #120
good to know :)
<< Comment #173 @ 19:12 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr  - Reply to #117
he is not good because even i win him
<< Comment #317 @ 11:47 CDT, 29 September 2010 >>
By USSR Lowbird  - Reply to #117
yeah hes average or maybe above with game time
<< Comment #2 @ 18:10 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Czech Republic LukKe 
btw "uNkind" :p
<< Comment #3 @ 18:10 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By United States of America char 
czm or unkind

speaking of zero4 comeback:
<< Comment #4 @ 18:21 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By terran timmah 
Who is elpajuo? Never heard of that guy
<< Comment #9 @ 19:03 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Aragón tzz  - Reply to #4
Best CPM player in the US a few years ago, he played in the CXG and did really good (he had to play cooller in the WB finals but the even was shut down iirc) then disappeared a few years later and his family came here searching for help.
<< Comment #12 @ 19:34 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #9
Lost to cooller in the WB Semi final 2-1 (Won pro-q3dm6 if I recall correctly). Cooller then beat ZeRo4 in the WB Final 2-1 but the event was shut-down before the LB final between ZeRo4 and elp could be played (I think).

I think he was at QLAN2 as well.
Edited by iNkind at 19:34 CDT, 22 October 2009
<< Comment #13 @ 19:59 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #12
the event was shut-down before the LB final between ZeRo4 and elp could be played (I think).
They started playing T4 and when the score was 8-8 between them as network died for good. The organizers didn't care anymore at that point but the players wanted to proceed, regardless of the cash (which was never payed out in the end). So they connected Zero4s computer directly to elpajuo, however, the organizers then proceeded to shut down all power as well, so there wasn't much for them to do.

Hence all three, cooller, z4 and elpajuo are considered tied as #1 for that event.
Edited by Paladia at 19:59 CDT, 22 October 2009
<< Comment #14 @ 20:09 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #13
They agreed to be 1>2>3 qlr>z4>elp.
<< Comment #15 @ 20:38 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #14
That's not how I remember it, I'm quite sure they all considered themselves as tied #1 and decided to split all money and hardware.

Why would z4 be ahead of elpajuo when they only played one map which ended 8-8?
<< Comment #27 @ 04:34 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #15
WB Final.
<< Comment #33 @ 06:23 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #27
The final was to be between cooller and the winner of z4/elp (which was never finished). So how was z4 ranked ahead of elp? Regardless, you are mistaken, the official (and inofficial) results were as follows:

Duel Results:
1 - tied. Anton 'cooller' Singov (Moscow, Russia)
1 - tied. Alejandro 've-elpajuo' Gonzales (Venezuela)
1 - tied. John 'ZeRo4' Hill (San Diego, California)
4. Sean 'Daler' Price (Austin, Texas)
5 - tied. Paul 'czm' Nelson (Massachussetts)
5 - tied. Jared 'cha0tics' Cugno (Boston, Massachussets)
<< Comment #34 @ 06:25 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #33
Because z4 was in the winner bracket final and elp was in the semi.

I recall them agreeing to share the money (whether it got paid or not) split 1. qlr 2. z4 3. elp.

But anyway, it doesn't really matter and there's next to no accurate coverage of cXg anywhere and the ESR search function is beyond hopeless.
Edited by iNkind at 06:27 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #38 @ 11:55 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #34
No z4 and elp had already started playing their match when the servers were shut down.
<< Comment #40 @ 12:08 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #38
I realise that, but the match wasn't finished and like you said it was a tie.
<< Comment #97 @ 04:23 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #42 @ 12:20 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #33
due to serious major tournament shortage, he has a physical need to count cxg as something cooller won, don't take it away from him :D
<< Comment #26 @ 04:11 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Aragón tzz  - Reply to #12
Ah, yes, that sounds about right.
<< Comment #257 @ 01:53 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #12
I think he finished second at Qlan2 (cpm tournament).
Rat won, elpa 2nd, toxter third and snapcase fourth I think.

He played in the vq3 tournament also, but didn't do as well compared to the cpm one :)
<< Comment #289 @ 12:32 CST, 15 November 2009 >>
rat played in the vq3 tournament as well. If I remember correctly he didn't lose cpm1a to anyone.
<< Comment #290 @ 15:50 CST, 15 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #289
I think that's correct. He was quite lucky that cpm1a got picked for the vq3 tournament :D
<< Comment #20 @ 00:53 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Frags medal crv  - Reply to #4
one of the best dm6 player
<< Comment #54 @ 13:35 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #20
please cut off those retro stats!
<< Comment #55 @ 13:38 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By badys tshirt Badb0y  - Reply to #4
elpa had a really unique AGRESSIVE style, nice to watch.
<< Comment #104 @ 09:22 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #55
RJ binds :DD
<< Comment #143 @ 03:49 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #55
Whenever I watched him move around, especially on DM6, he would do some things that seemed completely crazy or doomed to failure. They always seemed to pay off, though.

One time he did the standard bridge to rail and it seemed obvious he was going to miss. He managed to air-control himself over farther than seemed possible like it was nothing. Also he would regularly dive down onto players where it would seem they would shaft him to death before he hit ground but it never seemed to cause him any trouble.
<< Comment #297 @ 10:07 CST, 21 November 2009 >>
By Netherlands Terifire  - Reply to #143
One time he did the standard bridge to rail and it seemed obvious he was going to miss. He managed to air-control himself over farther than seemed possible like it was nothing.

Want to see this:D
<< Comment #318 @ 08:00 CDT, 30 September 2010 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #297
He did a lot of that stuff from what I saw, some of the most enteraining movement ever for sure! he is missed ;<
<< Comment #99 @ 04:33 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Unset gnarf  - Reply to #4
<< Comment #174 @ 19:13 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr  - Reply to #99
<< Comment #105 @ 09:23 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #4
only south american quaker to "make it big" afaik. Loved watching him play though.
<< Comment #167 @ 15:10 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Greece MaJunior  - Reply to #105
you forget reef, the Fatal1ty killer :D
<< Comment #194 @ 13:41 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Sweden phaces  - Reply to #4
...alias elputo...he´s gg :)
<< Comment #7 @ 18:37 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By United States of America erok 
would like to see how fatal1ty would fair
<< Comment #10 @ 19:09 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Poland mefajpE^ 
czm - smarter choice. great personality, amazing player.
<< Comment #11 @ 19:32 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind 
<< Comment #16 @ 20:39 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz 
For me, unkind would be most fun to watch in qlive with his rockets.

But the hype for fat, czm or tox matches would make for fun spectacting too.
<< Comment #17 @ 21:18 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands QuiXilver 
<< Comment #18 @ 22:22 CDT, 22 October 2009 >>
By wc3_undead mammon 
Sujoy but that won't happen.
xext toxjq, not likely but he would be a top contender if he had the time to put in
third probably Fatality or czm, the mappool suits american playstyle at the moment with t9 and t7
<< Comment #19 @ 00:35 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_ 
I voted for PELE cus I remember watching his old demos and being in awe about his interesting style. Most people probably don't remember him. He played a lot like unkind, just years before unkind was in the scene. Really smart and killer rox.

I don't think there is enough $ out there to motivate most of these people back. When you get older and have more responsibilities, it is impossible to put in the time required to be a top tier quake player. You have to choose to either dedicate your time to a game that nobody follows or do something real with your life.
Edited by JayDee_ at 00:40 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #300 @ 12:57 CST, 29 November 2009 >>
By SpawnRaped anal justice  - Reply to #19
this guy had the most unusual binds and I am not talking about smileys and such :)
<< Comment #21 @ 00:53 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Frags medal crv 
<< Comment #22 @ 01:26 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks 
Sujoy. To this site \o/
<< Comment #23 @ 01:27 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
PELE was really good n1 for 2 years in rus... top 5 of that list imho zero4 unkind pele fatality lexer or lakerman
<< Comment #59 @ 14:06 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By heart rockz  - Reply to #23
no czm? shame on u
<< Comment #24 @ 01:37 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
daler chaoticz socrates makaveli blokey - why we need to see their comaback if we have rapha now =)... polos blue stelam were really interesting players but not really top imho... 9.sujoy 9.doomer(doomer 34 years old now) not sure that they can to play realy good nowdays.. and about thresh - it would be absolutly fantastic if we will see his comaback but so interesting... but of course i wanne see totally comaback of all players in that list =)
<< Comment #85 @ 23:26 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By ezQuake focus  - Reply to #24
Holy hell it's Alchemist03.

DUDE. Stop learning english, it's ruining the fun :(
<< Comment #197 @ 05:33 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By eldvakt LoCK  - Reply to #85
<< Comment #25 @ 02:41 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By zerg vedic 
I miss czm's cheesy antics. =(
<< Comment #28 @ 04:41 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke 
<< Comment #29 @ 04:41 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany cYmoZz 
fatality + toxic
<< Comment #267 @ 05:05 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
By US-California Venim  - Reply to #29
exactly what i'd like to see
<< Comment #30 @ 05:05 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Finland duumed 
there are so many great players i'd like to come back since i wasn't following q3 in the first few years and didn't get to see them in action.

voted for czm
<< Comment #31 @ 05:52 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone 
Fatal1ty will add legitimacy and glamour to tournaments. He will probably bring more sponsorship to Quakelive just by competing.
<< Comment #32 @ 06:07 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden ArchaiK 
toxjq wihout a doubt. tox and fox 2v2 would make be spray things all over the screen.
<< Comment #35 @ 06:32 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Poland tifu 
it's really hard to pick only one, so i went with toxjq as i think he could come back and really compete. i'm not so sure about rest of those guys - they got old :P, moved on or just might not have time...
<< Comment #36 @ 07:52 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia ambro 
thresh comeback with a ferrari on quakecon :)
<< Comment #45 @ 12:29 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cyronix  - Reply to #36
he sold it afaik
<< Comment #175 @ 09:32 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By dollar zoinks  - Reply to #45
Did Carmack buy it back? :D
<< Comment #37 @ 10:58 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Finland Tzeentch 

<< Comment #39 @ 12:03 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By wc3_human DamianLillard 
I picked fat because you know he's gonna actually practice unlike the rest of these lazy bums
<< Comment #46 @ 12:33 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By terran timmah  - Reply to #39
Most of them practice, they all just tell different degrees of lies about the time.

But I guess time put in is not the only factor that will decide level of play.
Edited by timmah at 12:38 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #91 @ 02:33 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By wc3_human DamianLillard  - Reply to #46
Yeah that's what I meant, that all of them would stop playing completely between official tournaments! a gift for you

Edited by Vernon Schillinger at 02:34 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #41 @ 12:12 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Italy exp! 
crazyman e toxjq
<< Comment #43 @ 12:22 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe 
ain't gonna vote zero4 cause he probably has no motivation whatsoever to play again.

but i vote fatal1ty, cause fat returning to play would promote ql more than anything.

+ czm, ql fits his style
Edited by Lethe at 12:28 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #47 @ 12:46 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #43
Suits uNkind more!
<< Comment #48 @ 12:51 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #47
unkind is so...2002 =(
<< Comment #49 @ 12:53 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #48
Can't believe z4 only has one vote.
<< Comment #51 @ 13:16 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #49
probably everyone watched his latest demo :D
<< Comment #88 @ 01:42 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz  - Reply to #49
Only cause they got to see him play last year - so not much of a comeback
<< Comment #44 @ 12:29 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cyronix 
fatal1ty + thresh,

thresh will never come back though,
and fat will only come if there is some more money.
<< Comment #50 @ 12:59 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Six16 
I picked Fatality because id like to see how good he is now compared to the likes of rapha etc..

but id also like to see Lexer, stelam, blue and Lakerman come back..

Also, list needs Stelam adding :)
Edited by d3c4y at 12:59 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #52 @ 13:31 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #50
<< Comment #64 @ 15:40 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Six16  - Reply to #52
er, well i was thinking it was a ninja edit, but seems its not, i didnt see :)
<< Comment #53 @ 13:32 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd 
slinger, kane, american makaveli, menendez, if22, pele,unholy (anyone remembers him?! :-D ) gogogo :p

i'd like to see fat and stelam if ive to choose tho,,,
Edited by lizahd at 13:33 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #60 @ 14:07 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By heart rockz  - Reply to #53
what do u enjoy on if22?
<< Comment #62 @ 14:51 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #60
in his early days, like until cpl holland he wasnt +back at all :P
<< Comment #66 @ 16:08 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Weird  - Reply to #62
wow someone who remembers if-22 not being +back.....
you might have a really good memory... or a really bad one. (I for one don't remember who played how before cpl holland Oo)
<< Comment #89 @ 01:44 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz  - Reply to #53
Imagine the joy of watching if22 +back t9 to defend a 1 frag lead :)
<< Comment #320 @ 05:56 CDT, 14 April 2011 >>
By CSS Furball  - Reply to #53
i'd rather see Dta back than if-22 =)

Phear the HPB Rail biatch! (unholy) =]
<< Comment #56 @ 13:39 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Weird 
pfffffff, this should be allowed to vote on multiple persons....
Most of them would be really nice...

But I'm so torn between players I admired :(
voted for DOOMer though cuz he was the least voted for on the list of those ppl... and someone above wrote that makaveli is already back ;)
<< Comment #58 @ 13:44 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #56
i claim most of the list startet ql at least once :PPP
<< Comment #57 @ 13:44 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By djogedj h8m3 
<< Comment #61 @ 14:30 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip 
wanna see unkind & lexer back
<< Comment #63 @ 15:31 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By United States of America paulrrrr 
czm all the way.
<< Comment #84 @ 23:18 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Canada efassd  - Reply to #63
Hi czm.
<< Comment #65 @ 16:01 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Thorin 
It actually blows my mind that Blue has 3% and unkind 16%. Fuck is wrong with you people?
<< Comment #67 @ 16:25 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Austria noctis  - Reply to #65
rather see unkind play since i've already seen enough of blue in ql :p
<< Comment #68 @ 16:25 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #65
<< Comment #150 @ 10:49 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #65
I slightly agree. Blue was really amazing in his prime q3 days, but his q4 days were not REALLY amazing. It was still nice to see him of course, but he couldn't threat the top players. I know he plays some QL, but just for fun I assume...
<< Comment #69 @ 17:01 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Swedish Shaft torz 
Fatal1ty for QL's sake, Toxic for my sake <3
<< Comment #70 @ 17:56 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
Lakerman, babe, Lakerman

[ed] the list is kinda ridiculous, because many guys here did not retire for good -for example fatality, it is a well know fact the moment there will be big money prizes mister Anderson will be back, toxjq also played last year, and you miss him already?
Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 18:01 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #76 @ 19:22 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #70
Well, they retired from the competitive Quake scene (which they all were a part of earlier) and thus could come back to it again.
Edited by Paladia at 19:23 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #82 @ 21:49 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By baron Railgun  - Reply to #76
I would not call a year or two of inactivity, retirement. Even if it is technically retirement, as long as we've seen them not too much time ago, it's not enough to call it in a joy, the great return of the dark knight.
To be more specific, my daughter went down from our bed in the morning, and in the evening she was climbing it again, fully enthusiastic, I would not call what she was doing today, a truly retirement.
Same love story.
<< Comment #71 @ 18:21 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex 
Impossible to make a decision. I want czm, Thresh, LakermaN and toxic back. Z4muZ is missing, and I want All*Nirvana to play a lot and show his skill internationally for real.
<< Comment #72 @ 18:23 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By baron Railgun  - Reply to #71
Ali Naab is missing too
<< Comment #73 @ 18:32 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #72
Never heard of him.. :P
<< Comment #74 @ 18:38 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By baron Railgun  - Reply to #73
<< Comment #75 @ 19:20 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #71
Z4muZ isn't missing as he's already doing a comeback. He's playing for excello, participated in the QL Quick Cup and has signed up for Dreamhack.
Edited by Paladia at 19:20 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #77 @ 19:29 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #75
Yeah, I was told after I wrote it :) I'm not really paying attention these days. His stats on QL seems good, hope he attends a big tourney soon.
<< Comment #78 @ 19:32 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #77
Didn't you read the Dreamhack part? :) It's the second biggest QL tournament if you count how many good players that are participating. Unfortunately I don't think he has enough time to prepare properly for it but will be great to see him in action again.
<< Comment #79 @ 20:06 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #78
Hm, no I didn't. When is Dreamhack? It would be nice to go there and photograph for ESR :)

Edit: I found it, starts on my birthday, if I read it right, 26th of November. It will be fun to watch :)

Edit 2: I'm checking traveling costs to see if I can do it, it would have been awesome :D Specially since in 2002 or 2003 I ended up not being able to go to QLAN :)
Edited by netrex at 20:21 CDT, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #258 @ 02:06 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #79
come! :D
I'll fix you up with a press-pass if you can make it!
<< Comment #80 @ 21:02 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Uruguay gSTRUCTOR 
Easy one, fat ofc, it would be "HUGE"(c)2GD for QL.
<< Comment #81 @ 21:13 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By USSR s3cco 
<< Comment #83 @ 21:50 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By baron Railgun  - Reply to #81
damn rats, always scattering in the shadows, making me jumpy!...
<< Comment #86 @ 23:36 CDT, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany butchji 
toxjq and SteLam :)
<< Comment #87 @ 01:39 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
Fatality is the one who could most realistically make a comeback and be a force in tournaments. Video games are supposed to be his full time job, right?
<< Comment #94 @ 03:07 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #87
and not for those for those other pro gamers who play 6-8 hours easily a day?
Edited by confusion at 03:07 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #126 @ 14:03 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
For $3000 every 6 months? lol.
<< Comment #90 @ 02:11 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Latvia fuzz 
czm and socrates
<< Comment #92 @ 02:48 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden azmo 
Shub of course ;)
<< Comment #130 @ 15:31 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Fejl(Folklore)  - Reply to #92
That would be really cool:P
<< Comment #93 @ 03:03 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By ^__^ bl4ze 
<< Comment #95 @ 03:13 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
crezyman for hub
ZeRo4 for t4
<< Comment #96 @ 03:14 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
lexer, unkind, pele, socrates :(
<< Comment #98 @ 04:31 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
Someone else: 0.6% (1)3)


Dutch glory!
<< Comment #100 @ 08:43 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #98
I'm pretty sure forever is still playing =). Or do you mean as a dueller?
<< Comment #115 @ 10:51 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #100
Yeah I meant if he would make a comeback in the 'programing scene'.
<< Comment #202 @ 14:02 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Quake 3 loveless  - Reply to #115
i wanna see some more chairs thrown
<< Comment #101 @ 08:44 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius 
stelam and whole sk back for tdm =)
<< Comment #102 @ 09:10 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #101
dont you prefer unmatched?
<< Comment #119 @ 11:25 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #102
well, no, since kane is my favorite player and he needs to be in it! =). (so that's stelam, kane, zyz, neok)
<< Comment #121 @ 11:44 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #119
Slinger not neok! (Not to bash neok of course)
<< Comment #124 @ 13:05 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #121
nah! I always felt slinger was the 'weakest link' in the unmatched days.
<< Comment #146 @ 08:54 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop?  - Reply to #124
now that's odd. i suggest to watch some of the old demos which clearly show that sl1nger was one of (if not THE) the key players in unmatched's (or SK's) success. i always felt that neok was the "weakest" individual player in that team. all in all those guys were awesome together and seeing them again would be a pleasure. especially from a german perspective since we pretty much only have k1llsen nowadays.
Edited by Loop? at 08:57 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #149 @ 10:40 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #146
hmm, and it seems SK was mostly kane, stelam, slinger & para anyways, so I'd pick that team then.
I always thought slinger had often the worst NET/the most deaths. Gonna check some demos for sure! The good ol' days damned, I want them back ='(
<< Comment #153 @ 11:45 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #149
Kane was their "star" player, every time I've faced them he was always way ahead of the others. Even the maps they lost he was usually ahead of most of our players :)
<< Comment #181 @ 19:45 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop?  - Reply to #149
probably slinger was too busy yelling at his teammates for getting fragged on these occasions :D anyway, would be awesome to see some high profile tdm back, fully agree.
<< Comment #196 @ 05:07 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Germany torfteufel  - Reply to #146
if you still have demos showing u or sk play tdm, esp. stelam pov ofcourse :DD
vote for stelam btw :]
<< Comment #162 @ 13:43 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany butchji  - Reply to #119
Kane is a professional football player nowadays. :)
He plays in the 2nd League in Germany.
<< Comment #164 @ 14:49 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #162
so he transformed his quake dodging and hitting skills into football :)
<< Comment #171 @ 18:26 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #162
yes I know, and he seems to be in the team quite a lot too.
<< Comment #103 @ 09:11 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By 011 nemecel 
Is uNkind alive?
<< Comment #106 @ 09:38 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo Liam 
voted for unborn
<< Comment #107 @ 10:03 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #112 @ 10:27 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #107
I don't really use that account (that was my 1st and only game) as I like to play in peace/quiet and have a good time. That's what happens when you get old... you like quiet, haha! Especially sometimes when I come home in the evening after a few drinks...

I could always play Counter-strike when I had some liquor, but quake, oh boy... all over the place with some alcohol, haha.

I need to get rid of this monitor though... 25 ms response time and only 72 Hz LCD.... hehe -- I don't know how much it is gimping me, but from what I've been told, it is pretty bad.

I am trying to get Unholy, immortal, and some of my other friends to start playing again though.
Edited by K9-makaveli at 10:38 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #118 @ 11:22 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #112
your russian nemesis is still active :D, see link.
Edited by Linchpin at 15:01 CDT, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #136 @ 17:49 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #112
Hell yeah, you should try and form a tdm clan, atleast that you can still play for laughs without it taking too much time. Although I've heard tdm isn't big in the US atm :(
<< Comment #137 @ 19:42 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By 005 poindexter  - Reply to #136
Get the rest of Deathrow out of the rest home and back in ql...
<< Comment #108 @ 10:14 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #109 @ 10:16 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
No immortal on the list? ='-(
<< Comment #110 @ 10:21 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #109
He made a comeback in Q4 and didn't do all that great, not terrible by any means but not really that impressive.
<< Comment #111 @ 10:25 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #110
That's because I wasn't practicing with him!!! =) hehe
<< Comment #113 @ 10:48 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #111
woow you're back nice. always enjoyed watching your demos.
still play with that high sense?
<< Comment #116 @ 10:58 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #113
I think I'm just twitchy.. not really the sensitivity.
<< Comment #123 @ 12:17 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #116
move unholy here asap!!! :)
<< Comment #125 @ 13:07 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By pirate mkeiy  - Reply to #109
lol that guy was a fucking drop kick
<< Comment #201 @ 12:06 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #109
An immy comeback would be cool. I always thought his style was unique and strange. He had slow clumsy movement, but could out aim everybody by a great margin. He would hit crazy rails in ql.
<< Comment #230 @ 10:16 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #232 @ 10:38 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #230
<< Comment #114 @ 10:51 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
1. Fatality or Toxic
<< Comment #127 @ 14:29 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cyronix 
From Wikipedia (last sentence in the article about fat):
Has recently become a Full Tilt Poker Pro using his tag.

It seems 90 % of the progamers become pokerplayers after their gaming career.
<< Comment #128 @ 14:36 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #127
No education, no skills.

Poker awaits...
<< Comment #148 @ 10:38 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #128
I told him to go to college and not rely on the gaming stuff...

Hope he listened to me.
<< Comment #165 @ 14:50 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #148
Fatal1ty made a lot of money with gaming and he is now a business man who promotes his own products. Why should he go to college?
<< Comment #169 @ 17:35 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #165
Because he had to sell out and still has a quite unreliable job, it's nothing to raise a family or buy a house with, nothing in pro gaming is imo.
<< Comment #195 @ 15:57 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #169
<< Comment #207 @ 20:17 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Vo0  - Reply to #169
But...but...he's a millionaire.
<< Comment #214 @ 10:07 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #207
:D You want your own smug face on those motherboards?
<< Comment #268 @ 05:10 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
By US-California Venim  - Reply to #207
you should be on this list too btw
<< Comment #303 @ 08:15 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #169
its not unreliable. this comment is true ignorance. Are you his tax accountant? You actually know his income?

He's made. And i don't even agree with how he did it either.
Edited by Cloud at 08:22 CST, 8 March 2010
<< Comment #302 @ 08:13 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #128
poker doesn't take any skill?

How much money would you like to play for?
<< Comment #306 @ 08:42 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #302
Yeah, you got me, that was what I was saying.
<< Comment #308 @ 10:35 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #306

now i see what u did there..
<< Comment #129 @ 14:41 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek 
would love to see Fatal1ty in action

but... he loses in FFA shootouts :(
<< Comment #133 @ 17:47 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #129
Haha, it is really hard to win every FFA.
<< Comment #135 @ 17:48 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek  - Reply to #133
<< Comment #157 @ 12:27 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #159 @ 12:41 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek  - Reply to #157
yeah at some point in one of those 2v4 matches the score was, if i remember correctly, 197:0 ;-)

still beating him in ffa was a nice experience :p
<< Comment #131 @ 17:12 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #134 @ 17:47 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #131
Lakerman would be awesome, but he probably need too much time to get back into it. His old "esp" used to give me orgasms.
<< Comment #132 @ 17:47 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By 2k2_2 Nukm 
tox and fat
<< Comment #139 @ 20:17 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America Hito 
Impossible to choose one, ive always liked Pele and Lakermans style. Would love to see Lexer, Czm and Fat back too though...

I think any match between rapha, cooller, fat and czm in their prime would just be amazing.
<< Comment #138 @ 20:10 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By Portugal stuntz 
Polos is rulez :D
<< Comment #140 @ 20:32 CDT, 24 October 2009 >>
By USSR EKSelenc 
uNkind or toxjq.
<< Comment #142 @ 03:45 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
immortal (usa), Shub-niGGa (nor) and Scion (nor).
Are true legends for me.
<< Comment #141 @ 02:16 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Kitty Adel 
<< Comment #144 @ 04:33 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Denmark amOKchen 
I've always been a lakerman fan, so heres my top5 :p

1. LakermaN
2. toxic
3. unkind
4. daler
5. elpajuo (this guy was amazing not much footage on him though)
<< Comment #145 @ 05:35 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By rpnew telly 
<< Comment #147 @ 08:59 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop? 
lexer,stelam,sl1nger,zyz,kane, czm,fatal1ty, in no specific order.

+ cooller being as successful as he used to be ;)
Edited by Loop? at 09:00 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #151 @ 11:06 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Denmark Vium 
k3no og hazzi aka gur piuv
<< Comment #152 @ 11:15 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS 
- ElkY
- Grrr..
- rat
<< Comment #154 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #152
Major Poll: QL

"Quake live has brought quite a few players back to the scene. Which comeback to the Quake competitive scene would you rather see (as a player)?"

Edited by Paladia at 11:46 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #155 @ 11:52 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS  - Reply to #154
<list of persons and some random blabla i didn't care about>
<< Comment #156 @ 11:53 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS  - Reply to #155
also any of my list rather than any of yours :p
<< Comment #158 @ 12:28 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #155
Well, you should at least check which category its in :)

However, you can do a SC one sometime later. Though most SC players have already made a comeback. :)
Edited by Paladia at 12:28 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #160 @ 13:03 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By US-Pennsylvania judge717 
czm easy
<< Comment #161 @ 13:27 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By stermy bubble_ru 
Best fail :

"A Legend return", quake IV, Immortal.
Videos etc ...

A Legend Returns
Once, long ago, a legend trod the earth, fragging opponents with ease and reigning as a good and wise champion.

Until, one day, he vanished into the mists of time.

On Tuesday, he returns.....and will cover every step of his exciting comeback
<< Comment #163 @ 14:20 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Done linoleuM 
rat or czm
Edited by linoleuM at 14:20 CDT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #166 @ 14:51 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
lakerman vs z4 on t4... interesting.
<< Comment #168 @ 17:31 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 
imagine stx-kash playing QL. I mean osp was super easy for him. I want to see the kash come back!
<< Comment #170 @ 17:42 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke  - Reply to #168
<< Comment #172 @ 18:53 CDT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2  - Reply to #170
no wai! kash was known for having aim of GODS with lg and railgun. rapha just runs and spams rl.
<< Comment #176 @ 09:45 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Finland duumed  - Reply to #172
rapha just walks and spams rl.

there, i fixed it for you
<< Comment #179 @ 13:48 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2  - Reply to #176
hahah true ;D
<< Comment #247 @ 18:32 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #168
You know, i hate you. But i have to say, you're one heck of a good troll.
<< Comment #254 @ 19:05 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
By clawo Liam  - Reply to #247
We need another poll to decide imo.

I'm pretty sure I know what the outcome will be though.
<< Comment #304 @ 08:16 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #247
what in the fuck are u talkin about?
<< Comment #305 @ 08:30 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #304
Nice reflex, retard. Fuck off back to your cave.
<< Comment #307 @ 08:59 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #305
reflex? what in the Fuck are you talkin about now you stupid fuckin idiot? just shut the fuck up ur fuckin useless and worthless
<< Comment #309 @ 13:35 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #307
Shush, kid. I know it's hard to live with a reading disability, don't make yourself look even worse.
<< Comment #177 @ 09:58 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen` 
<< Comment #178 @ 10:58 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Quake 3 (black) ddk 
<< Comment #186 @ 10:23 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By AUSNL by dann zkyp  - Reply to #178
<< Comment #180 @ 15:41 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive JDMYO 
czm of course - he was the SHIT! possibly the best allround Quake3 player of all time - tdm, cpm, 1v1 etc. Who could forget that T4 game he had against Aim (Ambix?) where he hit 3 pixel rails in a row from the bottom level to the top whilst Aim was stacked in sudden death overtime to win the game :) was awesome!
And didn't czm give Cooller his biggest defeat of his carreer on hub :)
<< Comment #184 @ 04:59 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By zerg vedic  - Reply to #180
<< Comment #185 @ 06:27 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #192 @ 13:24 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen`  - Reply to #180
czm TDM? lol
<< Comment #204 @ 15:56 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By United States of America erok  - Reply to #192
he played for cK when they were the top NA team and actually did well against euro teams
<< Comment #182 @ 23:17 CDT, 26 October 2009 >>
By US-California per1klez 
i dont understand all the talk for czm.. he tried to come back with EG last year and got pwned. I'd much rather see fatal1ty go for gold.
<< Comment #183 @ 04:46 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #182
czm is a secure ticket, if fatality can adjust to the level quake is played is something else.
Also probably why he is reluctant to jump into it, the level is to high for him :P
<< Comment #233 @ 12:12 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke  - Reply to #182
czm is a likeable character, fatalalalaonetwoty isn't
<< Comment #234 @ 12:36 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By US-California per1klez  - Reply to #233
Fortunately for him, that is an opinion restricted mainly to ESR and few other esports communities. For the other millions of people that have heard of him or seen him play, his persona is far more likable than that of a czm.
<< Comment #262 @ 12:13 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By ezQuake focus  - Reply to #234
whoa now. I'm not and have never been a fatal1ty basher. I got along with him just fine the few times I've actually spent a little time with him, but you should give Paul more credit. He's great.
<< Comment #266 @ 03:00 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #262
why are you arguing with periklez as if he had any clue of wha he's taking about?
<< Comment #187 @ 10:35 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip 
keeper should come back too
<< Comment #188 @ 11:37 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck spyteman  - Reply to #187
hah yeah he was solid :D
<< Comment #189 @ 12:05 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #187
<< Comment #190 @ 12:15 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip  - Reply to #189
Edited by deotrip at 12:16 CDT, 27 October 2009
<< Comment #191 @ 12:37 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #190
well done ;)
<< Comment #277 @ 00:01 CST, 7 November 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #187
From what I gather, he's playing CS these days. He was pretty awesome to watch on ztn back when he was in shape (an unfortunately brief time).
<< Comment #193 @ 13:41 CDT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Sweden phaces 
<< Comment #314 @ 21:46 CDT, 30 July 2010 >>
By exclamation point CLains  - Reply to #193
yes! it would be the most fun
<< Comment #198 @ 09:57 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM 
my vote stays with zyz
<< Comment #199 @ 10:36 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Poland panadol 
stelam slinger and everyone else
<< Comment #200 @ 11:51 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_ 
Mikes for TDM? Also it would be cool if Dag, Def, or Reppie from qw tried their hands at ql duel.
Edited by JayDee_ at 11:52 CDT, 28 October 2009
<< Comment #205 @ 15:59 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen`  - Reply to #200
Mikes may be will come back!
<< Comment #209 @ 01:09 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #200
Why should they waste time with a shitty, slow, hitscan cs game? Especially +forward Reppie with his 5cm/360 sensitivity. Waste of talent imo.
Edited by terrorhead at 01:10 CDT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #210 @ 04:12 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #209
Because they have been playing the same players and shithouse maps since the creation of the universe. However, I'll agree qw has superior fundamental gameplay and the top players would probably never switch to anything else. I just think it would be nice to see a guy of Reppies insane talents try something different.
<< Comment #211 @ 04:27 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #210
Not sure if I want to see Reppie in QL. Everyone would just own him. He would have to completely change his setup and style of play.

I agree about maps though. dm2 and possibly dm4 should be removed from comps.

Nice vid. I still have that demo :D
Edited by terrorhead at 04:28 CDT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #213 @ 08:37 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #200
I would go as far as saying that players like dag aren't as talented as some of the top players in QL.

When QW was the game, when it had players like DOOMer, Sniket, oKKun, Lakerman, Kane and so on, dag played at that time as well (I don't know if reppie or def played at that time but if they did they were so poor they weren't even known in the slightest then). However, dag, or dagurra as he was known as then, didn't stand a chance against those players, he was even at a lower level of play than me.

When all good players leave from a dead community, some lesser player is bound to take the #1 spot.

That goes for most of those current QW "stars", such as pietro, locktar, riker, xalibur, mrlane and so on. I do not even think they would disagree with me.
<< Comment #216 @ 10:28 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #213
Dude, less talented? QW requires a different skillset altogether. Different strats, movement, weapons, it's hard to compare, even. Also, how can you know if the current "stars" of QW wouldn't catch up to the old masters even, if they did stay in the game?

I'd say, if they'd put in time and effort, some of them could become top contenders in QL.
<< Comment #217 @ 11:19 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QW_ Zalon  - Reply to #213
I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense. As much as I respect the oldschool players (They were the top when I started playing), they simply didn't play the same game as the game thats played today. Saying that Dag wasn't as good, because he peaked at a later stage in the games history - Is like saying that LakermaN was only good, because Thresh wasn't around anymore. But even back then the game had changed alot, from when Thresh was king to when LakermaN won TGI. LakermaN was part of the era where aim, speed, and the ability to do tricks became a major factor in the game, whereas the players from the previous era had relied much more on just tactics.

QuakeWorld have had numerous eras, and different kings for each era. Some have stayed on top throughout most of the game's lifespan, players like ParadokS, reppie, dag and griffin. And I'm sure players like that have/had the talent to be good in any game. Just like LakermaN showed, some people can just pick up a game and instantly be good.

Regarding the players you list as current "stars", only LocKtar and riker is around.

But I would agree, that most top qw players probably wouldn't do as good in QL, but thats more of an age/lack of time thing than it is talent. Also they would be lightyears behind the Quake3 players. If Nabbe had not been moved from the "Participating players" to the "Pending Players" list, for the QL tourney at DreamHack winter, we could have seen what a top qw player could do in QL - with limited practice.
<< Comment #221 @ 12:54 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #217
There is nothing suggesting that Thresh was better than Lakerman, DOOMer or Sniket.

Did you watch 9 vs DR? I was there and watched it live and talked to the players. The first time EU and NA actually faced each other in QW/RQ, DR didn't do too well there (they even lost in their games vs IoP, another much less known medium-skilled Swedish team). Of course, while they were here Thresh also played 1v1s, losing games vs Xenon, DOOMer etc.

It's not like these current QW stars werent active at that point. Riker, mrlame, dagurra and so on played quite a bit yet wasn't even considered mediocre players in comparison to the likes of DOOMer or Lakerman.

I even played in the same team as Riker and mrlame, so I do know them as players more than most yet my opinion still holds true, they, just like me, werent as talented as players like Lakerman. It's simply easier to be amongst the best when the community size is 100 compared to 1 000 000, especially if you have a 10 year game advantage on all the new players.
Edited by Paladia at 12:58 CDT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #243 @ 06:08 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By rpnew telly  - Reply to #221
You are ignoring the fact that most of the early star players in Quake were established Doom players. Doomer, Ettu, Lakerman, Thresh etc all played Doom multiplayer and came into Quake already holding a lot of FPS experience. It was no surprise they dominated early on. Just like in Q3 where all the early tournaments were won by veteran Q1 and Q2 players.
Edited by telly at 10:39 CDT, 31 October 2009
<< Comment #301 @ 08:11 CST, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #221
thresh was already deep into playin q2 at the time and had stopped playing q1, not to mention he was an NQ player not a qw player.
<< Comment #218 @ 11:42 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #213
No offence dude, but you have no idea what you are talking about. Dag not being top notch when laker was playing doesn't prove anything. Different players have different motivations at different times. Pietro has been out of the scene for a looooong time. The players who have been at the top of the qw scene in recent years are very very skilled and would destroy laker at his previous form. There is no need to make comments when you clearly don't know anything about the subject.
<< Comment #203 @ 14:13 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Germany - Bayern abso 
<< Comment #206 @ 19:23 CDT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Eyeballers-Anim 0.2 kaZappeR shay  - Reply to #203
zyz sucks.. so did ewa braun.. ehm
<< Comment #208 @ 01:07 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead 
Fuck them all. I want to see Griffin and dag comeback.
<< Comment #212 @ 04:37 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Plusme ins 
<< Comment #220 @ 12:29 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Portugal uuuaaaaaa  - Reply to #212
CZM is awessome!! But i would like to see a Fatal1ty comeback to shut people's mouth that say he isn't good anymore... But it would be funny if he comebacked and get owned xD
<< Comment #225 @ 04:13 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Plusme ins  - Reply to #220
Fatal1ty will comeback rather sooner than later, and yep he will get owned most likely.
<< Comment #226 @ 06:05 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #225
I disagree.

I think if fatal1ty does decide to come back officially he will make sure that he can hold his own among the top players in practice games before doing it.
And I think we can all agree that he is not the type of players who is worse in tournaments than in his practise games.
<< Comment #228 @ 09:49 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Portugal uuuaaaaaa  - Reply to #226
i'm oficially impressed. Just checked his stats on ql and he is owning on ffa... He said on an interview @ gamescon that he likes to play a lot of ffa to prepair his aim for a tournament, but he might be playing just for fun, I don't know... And you are right, Fatal1ty isn't stupid that's why he reached his status....
<< Comment #215 @ 10:24 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
the guy who knows whom i voted for gets a beer!
<< Comment #219 @ 12:10 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>

But honestly, i'd love to see them all come back. The more the merrier. :)

Those and many more, especially people who managed to embed themselves in my memory, like Rocketboy, Kane, Paradoks, Gollum, Python, Matrox, Roos, Death, Arrw, Shub, w3st.. the list goes on.
<< Comment #241 @ 21:37 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #219
kane is currently the captain of "Rot-Weiß Oberhausen" in the 2nd Bundesliga. pretty successfull it seems.

Edited by [mash] at 21:37 CDT, 30 October 2009
<< Comment #248 @ 18:42 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Moldova john "Zerofor" rembo  - Reply to #241
Haha, no shit? Well good for him. I'd still like to see him make a comeback, the guy was sick.
<< Comment #249 @ 19:29 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #248
yeah, you could see him with his captains badge if some lazy ass admin would approve the pic.

i still remember his demos from LanArena. :D


apparently he's now worth 700k.

up 600k since the last time people talked about it.
Edited by [mash] at 19:35 CDT, 31 October 2009
<< Comment #260 @ 03:23 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #249
can't approve pics at the moment.

I blame funnyb!
<< Comment #280 @ 12:00 CST, 8 November 2009 >>
By l0wfly sucky sucky 5 dolla  - Reply to #260
what the fudge
<< Comment #222 @ 16:27 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By United States of America MUNG>esh 
where's cK 2v2 w/czm + fat option?!?
<< Comment #227 @ 06:06 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #222
cause everyone would vote for foxic?
<< Comment #240 @ 21:32 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #227
i'd vote for cox&fox.
<< Comment #242 @ 02:29 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #240
yes you would
<< Comment #245 @ 08:41 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #242
<< Comment #223 @ 17:24 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By United States of America davis 
czm for sure
<< Comment #224 @ 21:22 CDT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM 
why no zyz in this vote poll? He was q2 superstar in tdm / duels so was he in Q3 tdm and awesome duel player in PK. He was 4th at world champion ship in PK 2005.
<< Comment #229 @ 10:01 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #224
Duel wise I don't think he has placed top3 in any tournament.

Though there are lots of players that you could argue would have a place in such a poll, Kane is the one that comes closest to mine. However, no matter where you draw the line, the will be cases close to the line that can be argued.

You can also vote on the "Someone else" option for such players though.
<< Comment #237 @ 17:10 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM  - Reply to #229
half of those players didnt placed top3 on the list...... and unmatched did placed top3 in many tournaments, won couple of times too... zyz did won pk too at some tournaments..
<< Comment #239 @ 17:45 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #237
Lets see, you claim half of the players didn't place top3 in a duel tournament. I'll just mention one tournament for those I remember. To be fair, I'll only mention lan tournaments.

czm: 24% (79)
#1 QIL4

Fatal1ty: 18% (60)
#1 XSReality Invitational

toxjq: 17% (56)
#1 Dreamhack winter 2005

uNkind: 12% (41)
#1 WCG 2002

LeXeR: 4.8% (16)
#1 QuakeCon 2002

Thresh: 3.6% (12)
#1 Red Annihilation

LakermaN: 3.3% (11)
#1 Lan Arena 4

Stelam: 3.3% (11)
#1 Lan Arena 5

ZeRo4: 1.8% (6)
#1 QuakeCon 2001

Polosatiy: 1.8% (6)
#1 AMD PG Challenge 2003

PELE: 1.8% (6)
#1 RazerCPL Qualifier

Blue: 1.5% (5)
#1 CPL Asia

socrates: 1.5% (5)
#1 WCG USA 2002

DOOMer: 1.5% (5)
#1 Swedish Quake Championships

elpajuo: 1.2% (4)
#1 Cyber X-Games

Makaveli: 0.9% (3)
#2 XSReality Invitational

Sujoy: 0.9% (3)
#3 Ground Zero

cha0ticz: 0.6% (2)
Can't remember any

Blokey: 0.3% (1)
#1 XSReality AMD Cup (this was a duel tournament but not alone though).

Daler: 0.3% (1)
#1 ION Games
As you can see, your claim that "half those players never placed top3 in a duel tournament", was entirely inaccurate. Almost all of them have won at least one LAN tournament.
Edited by Paladia at 09:59 CST, 2 November 2009
<< Comment #261 @ 03:25 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #239
<< Comment #278 @ 00:03 CST, 7 November 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #239
Wasn't ION Games an online tournament? The one where elpajuo went AFK on tourney4 with a small (1 frag?) lead, and then Daler took the win at the end?
<< Comment #279 @ 07:07 CST, 7 November 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #278
I think you may be right, though he was #1 at AmeriCup and LayeredX as well (and second at Quakecon and WCG USA 2002).
Edited by Paladia at 07:09 CST, 7 November 2009
<< Comment #231 @ 10:24 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By redd0t dot anim Apoc 
Python should be in the list. And the spanish guy who won one of the WCG's, whose name I can't remember.

I would still have voted for PELE [PK], hail!
<< Comment #253 @ 12:52 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
By Austria noctis  - Reply to #231
the spanish guy that got second behind unkind you mean
<< Comment #256 @ 01:49 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By redd0t dot anim Apoc  - Reply to #253
Thats' right, I wondered if a WCG winner could be forgotten.

But Akiles, not heard much of him lately..
<< Comment #235 @ 12:41 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By United States of America cha0ticz 
I'm rocking 2 votes at the moment, one of which was me so I'd like to give a big shout-out to my fan!
<< Comment #238 @ 17:26 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #235
you can click on show votes to see who it was and thank him personally ;)
<< Comment #264 @ 12:55 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Brazil _agu  - Reply to #235
i'd like to see you playing quake4 on galang, vs socrates.. some us tournament which i woudn't forget hahaha was amazing that game
<< Comment #274 @ 05:38 CST, 4 November 2009 >>
By USSR Demiurge  - Reply to #235
You can use a plural now :)
<< Comment #298 @ 02:52 CST, 24 November 2009 >>
By Earth by BooTes StywoO  - Reply to #235
Since you voted for yourself, can we assume your coming back? :)
<< Comment #236 @ 14:53 CDT, 30 October 2009 >>
By France Co1nCo1n 
SOMBRA ! lol
<< Comment #244 @ 08:02 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Portugal gut 
phyton, prozac and mist
<< Comment #246 @ 09:13 CDT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Copyright by Jazka Jazka 
I voted stelam because i remember him firstly as being a great TDM player. Same for toxjq. And same for prozac. Same for makaveli because he is my first demo watched, a tdm demo on DM6 before the pro version, he was camping at RA and looking up.

And so on, i would like to see all those players come back for some great TDM with a lot of teams fighting to be n°1.
<< Comment #251 @ 03:28 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
The Genie says, "you have three wishes". Aladdin tells the Genie his first wish, "I wish for unlimited wishes.". Robin Williams tells Aladdin, "Well that kind of defeats the purpose of only having three wishes, but what can I do? Rules is rules.".

I always liked CZM, Toxic and Lexer myself. If I had my way, they would all come back.
<< Comment #252 @ 09:44 CST, 1 November 2009 >>
By 2KBlack Yellack 
Z4 with a ball mouse! \o/
<< Comment #255 @ 00:53 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By New Zealand roffo 
CZM for sure. The guy built a fucking railgun
<< Comment #259 @ 02:28 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze 
needs more rat!
anyway voted fat.
<< Comment #263 @ 12:53 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Brazil _agu 
i voted on fatal1ty but i rather like to see fist1 back on track :)
<< Comment #265 @ 15:43 CST, 2 November 2009 >>
By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Dird 
<< Comment #271 @ 17:12 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
Outside of the usual suspects I would like to see (not just from Q3):

Polos, Blokey, Lakerman, Aim, Q50, Slinger & Stelam (surely they're a double team super combo?), Panicore, Prozac, Appleseed, IF22 anyone? and just cos I love him, Timber.
<< Comment #272 @ 05:24 CST, 4 November 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind  - Reply to #271
Q50 is playing QL
<< Comment #276 @ 14:03 CST, 5 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #284 @ 09:51 CST, 12 November 2009 >>
By Germany butchji  - Reply to #271
Appleseed is playing QL!
<< Comment #285 @ 13:52 CST, 12 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #270 @ 17:06 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
shub_nigga played some tdm's with cooller, frozen etc.
<< Comment #269 @ 11:59 CST, 3 November 2009 >>
By Imminent_Team iNkind 
Would be cool to see Enemy play again too.
<< Comment #273 @ 05:37 CST, 4 November 2009 >>
By USSR Demiurge 
Probably enjoy seeing LeXeR play by far the most, would be really awesome if he played again.
<< Comment #275 @ 06:22 CST, 4 November 2009 >>
By claw0 pizz 
1. niceguy/Greenbastard
2. pezouille
3. pizzette
<< Comment #281 @ 06:02 CST, 10 November 2009 >>
By Lithuania yo_O 
uNkind, LeXeR, b100.Death, cGu'Nova and many more ;)
<< Comment #282 @ 06:52 CST, 10 November 2009 >>
By Nuke Explosion raithza 
I'd like to see Yuka make another comeback. This time as fatal1ty. imagine the DRAMA!

also, rat.
<< Comment #283 @ 10:52 CST, 10 November 2009 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates 
oldschoolers! :P
<< Comment #286 @ 09:14 CST, 13 November 2009 >>
By New Zealand GrotesK 
Blue to make a comeback with T4~
czm would also be great.
<< Comment #287 @ 16:20 CST, 13 November 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Disrepute 
I would like to see yuka back (as one of the above names)
<< Comment #322 @ 04:23 CDT, 28 May 2012 >>
By Moldova quake is potat  - Reply to #287
'ello 'ello 'ello, whats all this then
<< Comment #323 @ 09:59 CDT, 28 May 2012 >>
By United Kingdom Disrepute  - Reply to #322
<< Comment #288 @ 12:15 CST, 14 November 2009 >>
By ET:QW Shrike 
Wombat !
<< Comment #291 @ 19:14 CST, 15 November 2009 >>
By France Co1nCo1n 
czm: 22%

+ hub for QL
<< Comment #292 @ 11:01 CST, 16 November 2009 >>
By France Shardik 
Thresh for sure !

and Hub, Qtv, mvd for QL yep :)
Edited by Shardik at 11:02 CST, 16 November 2009
<< Comment #293 @ 19:06 CST, 16 November 2009 >>
czm for sure. the best player ever to grace the quake community with his presence imho.
really wish he would make another comeback in QL. :)
<< Comment #294 @ 05:29 CST, 19 November 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr 
<< Comment #295 @ 07:22 CST, 20 November 2009 >>
By QuakeLive JDMYO 
Paul Nelson! lets have one last duel tourney off you?! Come on dude. You can live upto Rapha, Cypher and Cooller. No one else can but CZM can :)
Someone make Hub for QL and bring CZM back! :)
Shit! - I bet Rapha would own on hub... :o
<< Comment #296 @ 08:07 CST, 20 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #299 @ 10:37 CST, 28 November 2009 >>
By Netherlands Black2lip 
Blue or LakermaN two of my favorite quake players all time.
<< Comment #310 @ 14:09 CDT, 7 July 2010 >>
By Estonia dunZ 
toxjq : )
<< Comment #311 @ 04:48 CDT, 28 July 2010 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates  - Reply to #310
<< Comment #312 @ 05:00 CDT, 28 July 2010 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #311
Then it could only get better if LakermaN stopped being a poker millionaire and started quake again!
<< Comment #313 @ 05:04 CDT, 28 July 2010 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates  - Reply to #312
If he thinks that this is the right way. Don't think he'll replace his millions from poker with a dirty old railgun :P
Edited by nails at 05:04 CDT, 28 July 2010
<< Comment #315 @ 12:48 CDT, 2 September 2010 >>
By US-Arizona klout 
Fatal1ty, fox and czm.
<< Comment #316 @ 11:35 CDT, 29 September 2010 >>
By USSR Lowbird 
need more lexer votes tbfh. or else your not enlightened.
<< Comment #319 @ 13:45 CDT, 1 October 2010 >>
By Germany - Freistaat Sachsen sic4rius 
Fatal1ty ofc.

But I highly doubt that he would perform a comeback in a broken game and a watered down version of one of his favourite games, which lacks the ability to spawn LAN servers. By now he already must have realised that there's no future for a game as incomplete and undeveloped like QL.

And what else is there for people wanting fast gameplay and compete in 1on1 tourneys? Right, nothink!
<< Comment #321 @ 17:30 CDT, 27 May 2012 >>
By United States of America DizzyMage 
what was the last tournament doomer competed in?
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