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RIP HARAMBE (1 comment)
Posted by sonic @ 21:52 BST, 27 August 2016 - iMsg
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Elder Trick. Bot Taught! (1 comment)
Posted by wem420 @ 18:07 BST, 27 August 2016 - iMsg
Hey guys I was playing against bots on Elder, and, keept getting sur-fucking-prised by bots at a couple aera's.

The one that actually mattered was at the stairs leading to the Key.

The bots can walk across the area, even when there are no stairs to access....Wonder if a human player is nimble enough to hug the mini ledge enough to use in competition :DDD

Here is Van Gou-like Depiction of what it would look like*edit* looked like autistic playground picture, look at these ledges instead!
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did reflex just die? (8 comments)
Posted by GanGBanG @ 18:07 BST, 27 August 2016 - iMsg
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/191095869/reflex

"cancelled"

and the forum just went down. reflexfps.net says "new website coming" but the link redirects to kickstarter.
such confused.
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Styled quake wallpaper (3 comments)
Posted by Danmer @ 14:40 BST, 27 August 2016 - iMsg
By The-Game-That-Must-Not-Be-Named...
For people, who maybe dislike but respect both games.

2560x1440 with text
2560x1440 without text
640x640 without text

Edited by Danmer at 21:13 BST, 27 August 2016 - 141 Hits
Driving Games arcade/sims (16 comments)
Posted by skint @ 13:22 BST, 27 August 2016 - iMsg
Anyone on here into driving games? I've just bought a Logitech G920 (as it works with xbone too) so wondering which are the best ones, I know whats out there but not sure how good each is.
So far I've just been trying it out on the xbox. Forza 6 works fine and I've got the settings setup just right, then I've also got Project Cars which I've always loved but so far I'm struggling to get the right settings so will play around with that.
Also planning on using it with all the arcade emulators at some point.

So what are your recommendations for some PC driving games? I only have a 750ti on an i5 at the moment so please take that into consideration.
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the anonymous user (4 comments)
Posted by bitstream @ 04:45 BST, 27 August 2016 - iMsg
Just curious, why is Malaysia the country of the anonymous user?

http://www.esreality.com/?a=users&user_id=1
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How to get QuakeWorld (20 comments)
Posted by Serolyze @ 04:55 BST, 26 August 2016 - iMsg
I don't know how to get QuakeWorld
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How do I get Quake World? (14 comments)
Posted by Serolyze @ 02:31 BST, 26 August 2016 - iMsg
I want to see what QuakeWorld is.
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DNF Duel Noob Cup #13 (2 comments)
Posted by CrazyAl @ 12:47 BST, 25 August 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 13:00 BST, 28 August 2016 to 15:00 BST, 28 August 2016
Begins In:

Duel Noob Fraternity clan organises their 13th low-level duel tournament on Sunday 28th August, at 13:00 BST Low-skill players can sign up on Challonge!


Admin: South Africa Nocturne
Stream: DuelNoob
Links: DNF Discord, Sign-up, Bracket.
Edited by Nico_QD at 19:11 BST, 27 August 2016 - 428 Hits
A Short Reflex Movie (23 comments)
Posted by CrazyAl @ 12:09 BST, 25 August 2016 - iMsg



0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Rating: 7 (32 votes)
Cut this one short because 46 dropped with new weapon models and I didn't want any inconsistencies.

Music:
The Prodigy - Diesel Power

Featuring frags from:

Scotland CrazyAl
Australia Dacra
Sweden Mangemongen
Australia Dorinos
Finland DraQu
Australia ultra
Sweden QuFIT
United States of America zgztr
Norway Luft
Denmark promEUs
Norway Owl Ragnar
Netherlands Terifire
Edited by CrazyAl at 12:09 BST, 25 August 2016 - 1055 Hits
QC should replace q3l physics with q4s (10 comments)
Posted by Shin-obi @ 05:56 BST, 25 August 2016 - iMsg
What are your thoughts about having a q4 champion instead of a q3 champion? I like it because I think I'd be much easier to balance between the pql vs q4 champions. There'd be no need to alter healty /armor levels and it'd be a more level playing field. Its probably best that a fast paced game like quake has some consistency.

This conversation will be moot if syncerror makes a q4 champion, but I kinda have my doubts he will :(

Btw, you could call the q4 champion toxic and put him on roller skates. Easiest design ever
Edited by Shin-obi at 14:19 BST, 25 August 2016 - 481 Hits
Reflex Update 0.46 (20 comments)
Posted by entik @ 02:26 BST, 25 August 2016 - iMsg
A new Reflex update is here with training levels, turrets, tokens, new map editor tools, and more.

Today we're releasing version 46. This version adds the training game mode.

Training allows you to practise your movement, aiming & dodging and compete against your friends. We've added turrets which shoot at you (which can be disabled by shooting them). We've got targets which can move around the world and explode in to pieces. We've added tokens to collect and finally leaderboards at the end of the mission where you can test your time vs your friends.

All these building blocks are fully available in our map editor, and we're very much looking forward to see people use them in their workshop maps!

This build also includes many experimental update including the return of the much requested stake launcher. It's had all it's previous bugs ironed out and we're eager to see people use it. We've also updated experimental to more closely match the competitive ruleset (as that's generally the players who use it), and we've also tweaked the knockback to deliver a more consistent experience.

On top of this we've done an art pass on the rocket launcher and shotgun. We also snuck in a couple extra melee's and robot pieces :) The highly anticipated supporter crowbar will make an appearance too!

Finally I got to add a friends list to the home screen which I've been itching to get to for some time, it is very useful! :)



Links: Reflex Forums Post, Dev Roadmap
Edited by entik at 02:50 BST, 25 August 2016 - 1047 Hits
Warsow vs other afps (25 comments)
Posted by LEMEME @ 23:50 BST, 24 August 2016 - iMsg
Why is it that most people dont like warsow. What is the differnece between it and other afps games.
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Headline (12 comments)
Posted by Zhu_Cx @ 19:20 BST, 24 August 2016 - iMsg
It hurts me to read ESR sometimes, everyone is just so mean!

I dont know why I got so much hate for my stream, I provided good gameplay along with alot of hype. You guys are so spoiled.
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Someone explain this (19 comments)
Posted by xou @ 16:03 BST, 24 August 2016 - iMsg


How can a 6-years old YouTube video could only get 256 views.

This ain't that bad...

I don't understand...
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Strategy against aimbased playstyle (44 comments)
Posted by a-k-m @ 15:29 BST, 24 August 2016 - iMsg
Hello,

My friend and I started playing Quake live just a while ago. We come from a counter-strike background at which he is really good.

I started earlier than him with quake, therefore in the beginning I was winning most of the matches. Now, as he knows the maps pretty well he is starting to win most of the duels.

Until now we just knew 3-4 maps (Bloodrun, Campgrounds, hektik and Cure), but this is probably irrelevant.

The matches are close, but eventhough most of the time I have a much better stack than him, he just outaims me, hitting 3-4 rails in a row.

His aim is sick, and there is hardly a way I can get close enough.

I started using the shotgun in really close combats against his rail, but then again, he takes out the LG and outaims me again.

Do you have any advice or strategy to apply against a player with much better aim?

Thanks for advices.

Greetings
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My pet crow (40 comments)
Posted by Ins0mnia @ 13:14 BST, 24 August 2016 - iMsg



Hello, since people asked what that bird was on my shoulder.

It's a crow (corvus corone), he's unable to fly and cannot be released in the wild because of abuse from past owners. Got mr Boris (thats hís name) for 3,5 years now.

Faq:
Are crows good pets?
Yes, but you should get some knowledge about them. They are highly intelligent animals with special needs, they poop alot and they live up to 30 years in captivity

Whats the difference between crows, rooks, ravens and jackdaws?

All of these animals are part of the crows family,
- Jackdaws are the smallest and have grey feathers with a black head
- rooks are almost identical as crows, but have their pants on and their beak is grey
- ravens are way bigger! (350 gramms for a crow vs 1,7 / 2 kg for a raven!), also their tail is slightly different

What do crows eat?
Basically everything, but keep it down with the salty food. Also milk products, avocados and chocolate are very dangerous for them.

Is it legal to own a crow?
Yeah, if you have the C.I.T.E.S. papers or your animal is ringed.

OMFG YOU ANIMAL ABUSER, THEY SHOULD FLY FREE IN NATURE!
I totally agree with you, but this guy can't. He will die.

Can crows talk like humans?
Yes, but not as complex as a parrot but more then any other songbird.

Crows are fucking evil and belong to the devil!!!

gtfo.
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A fun idea came to my mind recently (35 comments)
Posted by He4rTL3sS @ 03:27 BST, 24 August 2016 - iMsg
So yeah, please don't laugh at me, don't make fun of me, don't troll, this is a serious idea.

Considering the fact that I feel at 98% of my potential, that I feel very comfortable with my settings (monitor, quakelive config, mouse, sensitivity) and that I've been playing regularly from 1h to 3-4 hours a day almost everyday for like more than a month now, I think that I feel ready for a challenge.
What's this challenge you will ask me ?

Pretty simple :
If you think you're good enough to beat me at my beloved map thunderstruck in a Best of 7, let me now, and add me @ steam (or give your steam ident so that I can add you). I've been playing more 2v2 CA than 1v1 lately but I still feel good at 1v1.

Wouldn't be LG only, obviously it would be all weapons.

It can be anyone, from any 4v4 CA hero (like ranked in the top 30 @ qlstats.net) to well known quake pros...

What came first to my mind are obviously ItalyHal, ItalyJigglypuff, SwedenSpart1e, Germanyk1llsen, NetherlandsSilencep, Belarusclawz, GermanyTodesknecht, BulgariaT1HOL, NetherlandsGOHAN, CroatiaMakie, DenmarkV1um, RussiaLatrommi or maybe (I say maybe because I'm pretty sure that they cba doing something like that) Netherlandsdrejk, Russiabase, even Russiaevil or Francewinz would be awesome (Yes I know, only in my dreams :P).

Can be anyone really, as long as you think you can beat me, then let's do it!

Also it would be AMAZING if this Best of 7 could be streamed (for fun obviously), maybe the ZLive (ZootLive) team could arrange that for example in a sunday or saturday ?

This would be just for fun and I'm pretty sure a lot of people want to see myself getting humiliated :P.

If you win this BO7, you get the reward "Thunderstruck 1v1 King" :D
Edited by He4rTL3sS at 06:23 BST, 24 August 2016 - 1118 Hits
Upgrading WinXP box for old games (13 comments)
Posted by Razor6 @ 19:43 BST, 23 August 2016 - iMsg
Hi, I'm hoping for some help with an "upgrade." I'm not a competitive Quaker but I'm posting here because you guys understand that game engine and its needs better than the general public on hardware forums.

So, I have an old desktop with a CRT running XP Pro. I'd like to keep that OS, not get newer Windows, nor GNU/Linux (only using the box for gaming, will be offline otherwise). I only want to play idTech3-based games like Q3, RTCW, SOF2, ET, COD1, and other games from that era, plus some older ones, at 125 fps no matter how much action. Over time various components on my old box have died, so right now it's hobbling along on a P4 and FX5600 which drop to 30 fps at times.

I just want a good-enough "new" CPU, mobo, RAM, PSU, GPU. I don't need anything else. My absolute max budget is US $200.

I know the latest chipset supported by XP is Intel 7, but something older is fine if necessary to fit my budget, as long as it fills my needs.

I don't care about future-proofing for newer games, or running resolutions above 1024x768.

About 10 years ago I got plenty of performance from an AMD Opteron and GeForce 6800 Ultra, so anything equal to or better than those should suffice. I just don't know where to start because I haven't looked at hardware in a decade.

Thanks!
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125 FPS QL Duel Season#31 Final (30 comments)
Posted by Nico_QD @ 16:20 BST, 23 August 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 16:00 BST, 28 August 2016
Begins In:

The 125 FPS QuakeLive Duel Season#31 (July-Aug 2016) Final, will take place this weekend.
Season#31 includes 8 SundayCups and Final Day 28 August


Donate: 125FPS Donate link.
Streams: Russia 102, United Kingdom zLive, Stream's HUB
Links: Season#31 page, Event Rules, Web chat, 125FPS Balance 2015-2016;
Russia team102, Europe PlusForward.net; France ESport
Edited by Nico_QD at 23:06 BST, 27 August 2016 - 1511 Hits
Quakecon joy and rivalries (20 comments)
Posted by 404 @ 10:22 BST, 23 August 2016 - iMsg
Hi Guys...

I would like to say how much I enjoyed this years Quakecon. Quake Champions is coming out and this may perhaps be the last year of Quakelive for Quakecon? If so, that was amazing and the best Quakecon yet..how can we stop showing that?

I want to say a huge thank you to Zoot and ddk! To me they cast so well and get all excited. You can just hear the passion in their voices for the game... They truly are the faces of Quakelive to me and without them it is only half as good to watch. Thank you so much guys!

Now the rivalries... Rapha and Evil have developed quite the rivalry. To me it's the biggest rivalry I've experienced. Since 2012 Evil got in and won a lan but since then Rapha has worked him out and consistantly won. But Evil has come back and came so close like in 2013 and now 2016. Of course there are more prolonged and more games online involved in rivalries like Cypher/Evil... and now Agent/Evil. But at big lan's there is so much on the line so I rate Rapha and Evil's rivalry the highest.

OMG what a game man!!! I couldn't believe it! I was really rooting for Evil to finally break the ice and he came so close.... just wow!
So I would like to hear about other rivalries in Quakelive and Quake 3. Who do you think in the time of these games has or has the greatest rivalry???

P.S Although I believe Quake Champions will be great. Really there is no greater game than Quakelive/Quake 3. How can a game get any better? It's hard to see any game beating it imo.
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Reflex 1v1 King of America #1 Tournament (7 comments)
Posted by Frenly @ 18:35 BST, 22 August 2016 - iMsg
King of America #1

The America Reflex community is thirsty for blood. Full of love and full of trash talk - let's see if we can get some action packed entertainment on a weekly basis from the Americans eh?

Prizes based on player contributions and donations

Donate Here!

50%
20%
15%
10%

DATE: Saturday - August 27, 2016

TIME: 10:00 Mountain/Las Angelas Time // 13:00 Eastern

Round 1 10:00
Round 2 11:00
Round 3 12:00
etc..

GAMETYPE: Duel 1v1

SLOTS: No limit

FORMAT: Double Elimination 10 minute games best of 3 with 2 minute overtimes

SIGNUP HERE
: http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/biUOBmgj67

BRACKETS HERE: http://challonge.com/reflexAugust27

MAP POOL:

The Catalyst
Furnace
Pocket Infinity
Aerowalk
Phrantic
Flex Lab
Blood Run

General Rules:

Default duel mode currently in the game using the competitive ruleset (no item timers).

Unsporting behavior may be penalized.
Any attempt to bypass the ruleset will result in disqualification from the cup.

Be autonomous, contact your opponent, play your match, report the score on the Challonge webpage.

Map Picking system :

Coin toss determines who is Player 1 and Player 2. Seeds will determine the Player order in future King of America events.

Player 1 picks a map from the Map Pool,
Player 2 picks a different map from the Map Pool,
if a 3rd map is required, Player 2 drops a map from the remaining Pool, then Player 1, then Player 2, then Player 1, and the last map left is the decider.

Servers/non American players :


No unauthorized spectators will be allowed on the servers
Any server can be used as long as both opponents agree. Fairness first, if fighting outside of America - players will agree or American soil trumps the unreasonable, however - the American dueler must choose a server that is most fair for their opponent. America includes North America, South America and Latin America.

Admins :
Kev!, Kylph0rd

The King of America cups will be using a variety of maps each week. So if you are upset about Blood Run or anything else being in the Map Pool... well.... maybe it won't be a map next week?
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Makaveli on Twitch (7 comments)
Posted by soniCa @ 08:53 BST, 22 August 2016 - iMsg
Hi all, was watching and chatting with Makaveli last night on twitch, very interesting guy.

He was playing Overwatch with Zero4 and another couple of guys, also said he's playing the game with Immortal, Thresh, Fatality and Rapha on and off and looking to play a lot more often, possibly even get into the competitive scene again if he can find the time.

He has a lot to say on the subject of gaming and is more than willing to offer a nostalgic story or two. Whilst I was watching he went on a 19 kill streak with McCree and had some insane moments. I know the above collection of players playing together sounds like a dream come true, but he said he's looking to stream and play a lot more often with Thresh etc and would really love to have more viewers and spread the word. Imagine a OW team of those old skool gamers...

Anyway, heres a few links you may be interested in and thanks;

https://www.twitch.tv/d16makaveli/profile
https://www.twitch.tv/fatal1ty/profile
https://www.twitch.tv/spart1e/profile
https://www.twitch.tv/fazz/profile
https://www.twitch.tv/noctistv/profile
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razor chroma and fl studio 12.3 (10 comments)
Posted by p0rt @ 19:32 BST, 21 August 2016 - iMsg
lame, should be for reaper

razor is 11.08 https://youtu.be/3gv8Y4PzNiQ?t=11m8s

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Thunderdome 6 LB final: more Titans! (5 comments)
Posted by leopold @ 15:29 BST, 21 August 2016 - iMsg
Today, 21:00 BST, 21 August 2016, the LB final between Sweden LocKtar and France NPH will be played. The winner will then challenge the QuakeCon 2016 Über Champ Norway Rikoll !



VOD

Stream: LocKtar

Links: QW Get QW, QW Community, QW Watch it
Edited by leopold at 11:18 BST, 22 August 2016 - 925 Hits
All things StarCraft (20 comments)
Posted by esdf @ 03:11 BST, 21 August 2016 - iMsg
Having had a lengthy summer vacation, I wasn't able to update y'all about 2016 Afreeca Starleague. Time to rectify that then.

Let's start off with quick recap of scores of the RO8 games played so far. sc2_terran sSak faced off against sc2_terran sharp and sc2_terran sea went head to head with sc2_zerg hero. Presuming you haven't watched the games yet, you can watch the vod of both sc2_terran sSak vs sc2_terran sharp and sc2_terran sea vs sc2_zerg hero. Unfortunately, The Casting Archon wasn't casting any of the games (Wolf & RAPiD were the casters). For spoilers check below.


Today's game will be sc2_protoss Eyewater (Shuttle) vs sc2_protoss Jaehoon and it starts at 05:00 BST. The real treat however is the game on Monday. In what seems to be the hottest game of the season, sc2_terran Flash goes up against sc2_terran Last in a BO5. Their game starts at 11:00 BST, 22 August 2016.

Normally that'd be it, but seeing how there's El Classico of e-sports going on on the same days as ASL RO8 I just HAVE TO announce that as well. SK Telecom vs KT Rolster is happening today at 11:00 CEST and on Monday @ 12:00 CEST.

VODs: Eyewater vs Jaehoon, Flash vs Last, SKT vs KT Proleague Day 1 & 2
Links: twitch ASL RO8, twitch Proleague, TL preview of ASL RO8, TL preview of Telecom derby
Edited by esdf at 18:34 BST, 22 August 2016 - 867 Hits
Shoot without holding down button (4 comments)
Posted by Weapon6 @ 17:51 BST, 20 August 2016 - iMsg
This is how I want my lightning gun, fire with mouse 1 and click again to stop. Can someone explain how this could be done?
Fanks
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Rogue(winz and akm team) eliminate c9 (61 comments)
Posted by Snow_Crash @ 16:08 BST, 20 August 2016 - iMsg
pretty sick play wow guys
any of you watching overwatch atlantic
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Asus VG248QE £139.99 +2 year warranty (13 comments)
Posted by certes @ 09:02 BST, 20 August 2016 - iMsg
https://m.johnlewis.com/asus-vg248qe-led-3d-g...rm=VG248QE

Be quick!! it's about the cheapest I've ever seen it if anyone still on an old monitor, this has a very fast response time!
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Wait.. (2 comments)
Posted by EmSixTeen @ 01:11 BST, 20 August 2016 - iMsg
.. is Diabotical the same game as Reborn?!
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Goldeneye 007 PC (11 comments)
Posted by QkumbR @ 22:40 BST, 19 August 2016 - iMsg
Anyone try this yet? Looks like it could be decent. Gonna download it later and continue my 19 year unbeaten streak.

http://www.moddb.com/downloads/goldeneye-sour...nloadsform
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Decent E1M1 remix (2 comments)
Posted by asyyy @ 19:01 BST, 19 August 2016 - iMsg


Any other remixes you like?
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QC: You can turn off abilities (No comments)
Posted by CrazyAl @ 18:36 BST, 19 August 2016 - iMsg
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/quake-champi...0-6442812/

Quake Champions project lead Tim Willits has downplayed the overall significance of the Champions--calling them "an additive thing" during a recent interview with GameSpot--but many fans have expressed concern over this new feature nonetheless, labeling Quake Champions a "hero shooter" in the same vein as games like Overwatch.

When asked if the studio would consider including an option that would allow players to turn off Champions' unique abilities and compete using mechanically identical characters a la classic Quake, Willits responded: "Yeah, in custom game mode."
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CHEATER OR PRO? (43 comments)
Posted by qlcheatercatcher @ 18:31 BST, 19 August 2016 - iMsg
Hello quakers. I'm new in this forum or site.. Whatever. I just came around to talk about this player, I've met this guy several times (dueller) and I wanted to ask the opinion of the biggest community (yay) of quake live. Who's this guy? A pro dueller? Seems that he played against some top dueller and he put the videos on youtube as well, it seems clean to me but I leave to you the final verdict. Here you have the videos that I was talking about

1° (Against Zanzan) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nr9Xw852zo

2° (Against Madball) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR0U6HHh3Xg

Peace out.
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QUAKE CHAMPIONS: TOTALLY UNPLAYABLE MAPS (26 comments)
Posted by wwwAnyBoy @ 12:28 BST, 19 August 2016 - iMsg
QUAKE CHAMPIONS: TOTALLY UNPLAYABLE MAPS

I think we has another problem for duel players.

In Quake 4 we have Monsoon, Frantic. Absolutely promode style bullshit.

Why?

-Very small (gameplay simplification)
-only 3 powerups(gameplay simplification)
-You can hear everything on map(gameplay simplification)

Same problem but her another side in Quake Champions

-Big maps (gameplay crash)
-Wide areas(gameplay simplification + crash)
-No corridors(gameplay simplification + crash)
-Symmetry (gameplay simplification)

If you play on wide open areas - you cant hide yourself. So corridors + arcs(short corridors, doors) = your shield, like 90* angles when you strafe and shoot. You not die with small HP, you can hide yourself and go for powerups. It makes gameplay more complex and intresting.

We has nice example of VALID MAPS in Quake Live

BloodRun
LostWorld
FuriousHeights
Elder
Sinister
Dilirium
BattleForged

Most of it has same formula CORRIDORS+ROOMS+4 powerups+ VALID PROPORTIONS(rooms, corridors)

When new game came up. There many new maps. But they will be not valid, because mappers not understand duel gameplay. They make nice textures, shadows, lights, but very wrong map scheme!

What happens if all new maps = shit? It will be totally unplayable game! Every duel player will barf farther than he can see.. May be 1 map was playable from 20. And what then?


Right decision to make all our DUEL maps remakes in QUAKE CHAMPIONS. It will be easy to understand new game and compare gameplays for players. This maps already playable. this also time economy for developers + resources
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What steelseries mouse should i get? (15 comments)
Posted by fazz @ 20:29 BST, 18 August 2016 - iMsg
I need to know which mouse, preferably as light as possible 70-80 grams should I use? Sensor wise, which one is the best? And which needs to be avoided?

Please halp, too lazy to research on my own.
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OverFrag Instagib Autumn Cups 2016 (17 comments)
Posted by Flippi @ 18:19 BST, 18 August 2016 - iMsg
The preparations of the OverFrag Autumn Cups 2016 (EU) have come to an end. Today we want to share the outcome with you. The registration for the cup has opened last week and there are quite a number of teams signed up already. The sign-ups will close on Sunday 25.09.2016 at 18 CEST, and the first match week will start on Monday, 26.09.2016.

Let us hope to see new teams to bring some fresh wind into the Instagib-scene. If you are looking for a team or for players to build a team you can try your luck at the OverFrag Discord server. A lot of players are still without a team at the current point of time, so better be quick.

To get a first impression of what's going on at the cup I can only suggest watching the last iCTF Spring Cup Finals match between Team Crazy8 and Team Synergy. We are trying to stream and cast as many games as possible.

Sign-up
to the OverFrag iFT Autumn Cup 2016
Sign-up to the Overfrag iCTF Autumn Cup 2016


OverFrag: Website, Community Discord, Youtube VOD Channel, Twitch, OverFrag Cups 2016 Rules
Edited by Demiurge at 22:37 BST, 19 August 2016 - 1375 Hits
What Artisan mouse pad should I buy (15 comments)
Posted by megaman3 @ 18:18 BST, 18 August 2016 - iMsg
I'm currently using a Goliathus 2014 (speed) and would like to go to a QCK Heavy (smooth), but better if possible.

Artisan seems to offer the best mouse pads right now. Problem is they have like 9234892384 models.
https://www.artisan-jp.com/mousepad_all_eng.html

Noctis recommended me to get the Zero XSoft
https://www.artisan-jp.com/item_zero_xsoft_eng.html

And overclock.net noobs recommend the Hayate Otsu Soft
https://www.artisan-jp.com/item_hayate_z_soft_eng.html

So, heartless, what do you recommend. Thanks.
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Audio problem (p0rt?) (9 comments)
Posted by Spaceboy @ 20:26 BST, 17 August 2016 - iMsg
Ok this is a bit hard to explain.

It sort of sounds like the audio code in this game has a 10 hz tickrate. You can notice this when quickly strafing left and right or by mashing +zoom. No matter how fast you do these, the sound effects are triggered at most 10 times per second.

This rule seems to apply to every object in the game and it sounds really stupid. Is there a way to fix this?
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Error (6 comments)
Posted by BooloxFatBoy @ 17:46 BST, 17 August 2016 - iMsg
What's this about.

Is it me or the server ?
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My simple qlfragmovie ^^ (18 comments)
Posted by headhntr @ 16:36 BST, 17 August 2016 - iMsg
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HARD RESET - A Titanfall Movie (6 comments)
Posted by Demanufacturer @ 00:03 BST, 17 August 2016 - iMsg



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Rating: 4.3 (22 votes)
From the director of Australia Modus Operandi's Vindication and Redemption comes HARD RESET.

A frag movie containing competition footage from the Titanfall scene.
Programs used: Adobe Creative Cloud (most apps)

Featuring music from Sonic Mayhem, Celldweller & Jeffrey Peterson.
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What setting to remove these shadows? (6 comments)
Posted by flocks @ 23:41 BST, 16 August 2016 - iMsg
[Edit: Solved thanks to the replies below]

Recently reinstalled. Got the game to look mostly how I want it, except now there's these ugly shadows everywhere.

https://i.imgur.com/KLsTH89.png

I've tried some commands that I can recall but none of them help with this. I just want everything to look nice and clean again. =( Anyone know what to do?
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Banned from Zhu's shitstream (32 comments)
Posted by eburbeck @ 19:03 BST, 16 August 2016 - iMsg
I can't remember exactly what I was trolling Zhu about, but apparently he got so pissed that he banned me from his twitch chat. WP, EBURB, WP :P

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g100s (31 comments)
Posted by qwih @ 17:35 BST, 16 August 2016 - iMsg
So i bought this thing after many people told me it's good. The clicking, shape and when the sensor stops tracking when you lifting is good. Big problem is if i swipe it fast in one direction it goes crazy with negative accel and the cursor starts spinning. I'm using a brand new qck xxl as mousepad which works great with my crappy razer abyssus, which is bad at everything but allows me to do 180s at least. There's no firmware or driver or such i have to update.
So did i just get a crappy one or is there a way to avoid this neg accel craze?
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Good, cheap tenkeyeless / micro keyboard (3 comments)
Posted by crash4 @ 16:58 BST, 16 August 2016 - iMsg
Is there anything like a logitech k120 without the numpad? I don't want a mechanical keyboard, just a keyboard without a numpad. I can't find anything under $20.
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Thunderdome 7 South America edition (10 comments)
Posted by leopold @ 13:08 BST, 16 August 2016 - iMsg
The legendary QuakeWorld Duel Tournament series will in it's 7th incarnation be targeted at south american players and start around mid October.
The Paganini of QW Movement, brazilian superstar Brazil GT has already signed up, so a steep road is ahead of the more mortal challengers!


Links: QW Get QW, QW Community, QW Watch it
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Logitech Pro Gaming (g100s successor) (49 comments)
Posted by informerdada @ 10:03 BST, 16 August 2016 - iMsg
Well it's announced, the g100s successor
http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/pro-gaming-mouse

Preorder available and ships Sept 10.
Main features
-g100s shape
-3366 sensor
-g303 type buttons
-83g without cable
-Kaihl mechanical encoder instead of the usual optical for mousewheel
Height: ~ 35 mm
Width: ~ 62 mm
Length: ~ 115 mm

has 2 side buttons however, so that can be a pro or con
not a fan of the cable as well (braided g303 type I think), but that can be replaced easily

here is a review by a tester
http://www.overclock.net/t/1608862/logitech-g...iew-by-ino
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LETS PLAY quake 3 arena episode 1 (1 comment)
Posted by ika @ 01:10 BST, 16 August 2016 - iMsg
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testing new twitch embed (No comments)
Posted by wn @ 00:36 BST, 16 August 2016 - iMsg
Edited by wn at 23:14 BST, 26 August 2016 - 57 Hits
EU Visor Duel Tournament #1 (9 comments)
Posted by CrazyAl @ 23:52 BST, 15 August 2016 - iMsg
Slovenia Capwwn and Europe Duel Noob Fraternity would like to Announce the first EU Visor Tournament. The cup will be held on Sunday 21st August at 15:00 BST Players with a skill rating less than 2000 can sign-up on Challonge!


Admin: Slovenia Capwwn, South Africa Nocturne
Links: DNF Discord, Sign-up, Bracket.
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Heathens (17 comments)
Posted by lee.ql @ 21:44 BST, 15 August 2016 - iMsg



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Rating: 7.8 (38 votes)
This is my first video, do not judge strictly, I tried! :) (c) Lotzy

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Remove CH names in CA stop the gang! (62 comments)
Posted by barrybumcheeks @ 20:46 BST, 15 August 2016 - iMsg
Hi guys,

I think it would be a positive step to remove crosshair identification in Clan Arena for these reasons..

1) The prevention of focus/targeting of strong players

2) The prevention of focus/targeting of noobs

The constant focus and subsequent ganging of these players is an extremley negative aspect of this game mode. Every day I see 2 or 3 strong players annihilating the weakest players at the start of the round in pursuit of a cheap frag. It may be fun for the gang but not for the noob. The same goes for targeting strong players except it will be the whole team focusing on him/her.

Sure, names should still be preserved in the console and the scoreboard but I can see no legitimate use for them in team combat apart from the ones I have mentioned. This name mechanism should be a server side option not an obligation. Ofc they should be enabled in demo playback but not in live play.

Preserving opponent anonimity would make individual encounters potentially more dangerous as you would have no idea how strong your opponent was before you try to LG them to death, the identification edge would have been removed!
Also, I think we would see a reduction in aliases.

Another thing I would like to see is a return to the old spawn system used in earlier versions CPMA.

You spawn when the round starts (Insta-Spawn), no time to form a gang. This would dramatically reduce/stop the Bridge/Top/Grinder lets camp/gang them mentality. How many times have you played hidden fortress where 1 team camps the bridge and the other camps the LG or YA room followed by ZzZz ?

One potential problem with the Insta-spawn system would be the number of available spawn positions. Clearly there would have to be enough to accomodate all players at the same time. That would mean basing map selection on teamsize.
The Insta-Spawn system would turn CA into a more FFA based game as opposed to the current lets gang them system.

Some might argue that these changes would remove the 'Teamplay' element of CA but lets be honest when was the last time you played on an 8v8 server where the whole team played as one? Its virtually impossible to get 8 random players to play as a team (ie put the team before themselves). They always put self preservation first. They dont wanna take one for the team. True team games are played between clans who have practiced as a team. Pub CA is a teamgame in name only.

I believe If these 2 small changes were made it would make CA much more fun and balanced. They should both be server side options.

I love CA but I hate the gang

BarryBumCheeks <--- ProNoob
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Collection (4 comments)
Posted by loveless @ 16:23 BST, 15 August 2016 - iMsg



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Rating: 7.3 (10 votes)
Some frags from 2009-2016. Games include ffa, ca, ctf, duel, and tdm pickups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yw2Yhub4A4
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EXPLANATION FOR KIDS ABOUT RANDOM SPAWN (19 comments)
Posted by wwwAnyBoy @ 14:10 BST, 15 August 2016 - iMsg
Listen to me, kid

1. Spawns random at start(QL)

2. "Bad spawn" means LUCK\UNLUCK in game. LUCK\UNLUCK means RANDOM. Why it LUCK if you can predict by distance? Because PRO CANT predict WHERE they die.

In Another words, NO NEED TO PREDICT spawns,
We need to predict DYING PLACE =)

If you cant predict YOUR DYING place, you cant predict future spawn


If you cant predict DYING place => dying place RANDOM => RANDOM spawn


Dont forget MAIN thing

"Random" it or not no matter. Because We (pro players) want to control it, without any luck, by making choice. In QUAKE CHAMPIONS

Thank you for you attention
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Collected questions regarding QC (72 comments)
Posted by filo @ 10:00 BST, 15 August 2016 - iMsg
I would like to collect different question regarding QC, so id can potentially answer them at new wave of info release regarding QC.

- Will UI be customizable from a file or only ingame?
- Will also config file be customizable from a file?
- Are you planing to bring the whole orchestra of - champions/characters that we know from q3 at some point?
- Can we expect all type of known movements to be per character based? (ie. anarchy has cpmish movement and another champ will have q4 movement).


Add your questions below and i will copy the serious ones in the OP.
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Acer 27" - GN276HLbid (13 comments)
Posted by Daniel2 @ 01:31 BST, 15 August 2016 - iMsg
Is it any good?

Cant find any reviews, its for my wife, cant be worse than the shity 60Hz she has but i fear buying a cheap stuff with totaly wrong colors. If image quality is same as BenQ XL2411T then its perfect (dont care about massive black contrast just want colors to be correct).
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125 FPS Sunday Cup#50 (Season#31) (9 comments)
Posted by Nico_QD @ 23:18 BST, 14 August 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 16:00 BST, 21 August 2016 to 20:00 BST, 21 August 2016
Schedule: Passed

The 125 FPS QuakeLive Duel Sunday Cup #50, as a part of Duel Season#31 (July-Aug 2016), will take place this weekend.
Season#31 includes 8 SundayCups and Final Day 28 August


Donate: 125FPS Donate link.
Streams: Russia 102, United Kingdom zLive, Stream's HUB
Links: Season#31 page, Event Rules, Web chat, 125FPS Balance 2015-2016;
Russia team102, Europe PlusForward.net; France ESport
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If evil would have an QC champ ability (9 comments)
Posted by filo @ 15:44 BST, 14 August 2016 - iMsg
Its quakecon 2016 finals, last map, last second, evil has sorlag, he spits area of denial ability and takes the last 10hp from rapha. Evil wins the title and every1 screams and cheers like mad.
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GT Quake Live Duel Series GS1 GD (7 comments)
Posted by LordSoth79 @ 14:24 BST, 14 August 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 19:00 BST, 6 September 2016 to 23:00 BST, 6 September 2016
Begins In:

The Gametribe Quake Live Duel series Group Stage 1 Group D starts 19:00 BST, 6 September 2016.


Admin: United Kingdom LordSoth
Links: twitch zlive, mIRC #gametribecups, Official Announcement
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GT Quake Live Duel Series GS1 GC (2 comments)
Posted by LordSoth79 @ 14:21 BST, 14 August 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 19:00 BST, 30 August 2016 to 23:00 BST, 30 August 2016
Begins In:

The Gametribe Quake Live Duel series Group Stage 1 Group C starts 19:00 BST, 30 August 2016.


Admin: United Kingdom LordSoth
Links: twitch zlive, mIRC #gametribecups, Official Announcement
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Edited by LordSoth79 at 19:18 BST, 24 August 2016 - 737 Hits
GT Quake Live Duel Series GS1 GB (18 comments)
Posted by LordSoth79 @ 14:15 BST, 14 August 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 19:00 BST, 23 August 2016 to 23:00 BST, 23 August 2016
Schedule: Passed

The Gametribe Quake Live Duel series Group Stage 1 Group B starts 19:00 BST, 23 August 2016.


Admin: United Kingdom LordSoth
Links: twitch zlive, mIRC #gametribecups, Official Announcement
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Edited by LordSoth79 at 13:19 BST, 21 August 2016 - 1183 Hits
GT Quake Live Duel Series GS1 GA (20 comments)
Posted by LordSoth79 @ 13:56 BST, 14 August 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 19:00 BST, 16 August 2016 to 23:00 BST, 16 August 2016
Schedule: Passed

The Gametribe Quake Live Duel series Group Stage 1 Group A starts 19:00 BST, 16 August 2016.


Admin: United Kingdom LordSoth
Links: twitch zlive, mIRC #gametribecups, Official Announcement,
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Edited by LordSoth79 at 18:31 BST, 15 August 2016 - 1988 Hits
Quake champions TOTALLY UNBALANCED! (68 comments)
Posted by wwwAnyBoy @ 10:51 BST, 14 August 2016 - iMsg
Totally unbalanced

Lets look from duel point of view:

Spawn system in QL was little unbalanced(random spawn and you loose). When mapper make its map he makes spawn places, but he cant make spawns perfect.
1. if he makes just 2 spawn places instead 10(for example). Map was boring and easy to predict for enemy. It means simplification of gameplay. It means in most situations player A makes 1st frag and easy makes 2nd and 3rd and 4th etc.
2. if he makes 10 spawn points, then he cant calculate and modeling future gameplay of his map. It was like in QL.
3. In QL in the start of game, players has different armors and guns- unbalance.
4. If in QC after every frag game makes something like map_restart, but with different score(frags) . Call it round system. It was boring and little slower. And again see path 3.

So we has (different guns, armors) (amount of spawn places in the map) (places of spawn points)

Best way(100% works) to avoid low speed gameplay(less speed), unbalance, noob mapper to make SELECTABLE SPAWNS. All like in QL(spawn algorithm) but you can in 5 seconds after dying select one of 3-4 spawn point, or you can just press fire button to spawn automatically like in QL. Also it brings more tactic to game! Also it very easy to implemetation for programmers.


Now, about characters

The problem that insulting my head is that all characters has different abilities. But it cant be balanced! I just show 3 characters. But we has 12!

The main idea that every school boy select his character and love it forever. Like every boy can found its own love in QC. So everybody should love QC. So id get so much money as Microsoft or Goggle.

May be its true, because of Mortal Kombat and other games...

But we know that in MK gameplay totally easy. Easy scheme and balancing characters also very easy. Just different animation, different combos. But no spawn system, no map control, no timings. I'm talking about 90% of gameplay that is very different and more complex that in MK.

Now to 3 from 12 abilities.

Teleport sphere, fast strafe to different angles, promode movement.

Teleport sphere vs fast strafe. Can you see balance?

Imagine im on dm6 sitting on red and wait for spawn, i throw teleport to RG and while it flying i take Red and in one moment after i get RG. Amazing time cheat! Or may be i throw teleport to shards near LG.

If im on BloodRun wait for MH and throw tele to Red im also big time cheater.

It makes game much unpredictable for enemy. Also most situations of positioning on map should not work as before in QL or totally not work.

So teleport big time cheat and position cheat. But positioning and timings may be 60% of gameplay situations.

What about catching? If you fight for MH in BR you can throw tele to GL and easy disappear from enemy. in one moment.

How Fast strafe eliminate Teleport sphere? Ok im strafing every secong and opponent cant shoot me with any gun: Rocket, Rail, LG not worked!

So one player time and position cheater - another strafing every time and being like in god mode no takes any damage.

What a game it be?

Compare this 2 abilities to Promode movement that may be 20% faster than normal VQL. I think promode movement players loose to any of this 2.

So you love Promode but you cant win any game =). Situation between love and every time loosing.

Is that normal?

And dont forget that we has 12 heroes! Totally chaos!

Or we just found most imba hero and play only him.

Dont you forget about ELO?

In QL we everytime has different ELO players. So most of them everytime loosing, because no valid opponent and they start to hate Quake and go for DOTA or any stupid RPG where many ppl just love to chat and speak and clicking one mouse button.

How to calculate player ELO when different HEROES playing?

It stupid chaos game for kids, with no ANY professional elements. Just play for week and go to QL.
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What movement system for QC duel? (49 comments)
Posted by Shin-obi @ 01:55 BST, 14 August 2016 - iMsg
Duel is definitely getting a classic mode, so what movement system do you want to see for the next 8 years?

Q4
PQLish
VQL

These are the three likeliest candidates, so pick from them and Put them in order of want.

I want

1) q4
2) vql
3) pql


8 more years of stiff/ slow vql movement would be sad, but I could live with it. Im going with Q4 movement cause its a good a compromise between pql and vql. Bad positioning gets severely punished, but its still flashy and appealing to the eye. Casuals love watching flashy movement, BTW.

"Q4 movement is better for competitive play.." - k1llsen
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HoQ TDM 2v2 Summer Cup #3 (9 comments)
Posted by doz3r @ 23:51 BST, 13 August 2016 - iMsg
Scheduled: 14:00 BST, 28 August 2016 to 19:00 BST, 28 August 2016
Begins In:

The sign-ups for ql Quake Live TDM 2v2 Summer Cup #3 will be open one week before the cup.

The Cup will be held Sunday 28th August at 15:00 CEST, checkin is 14:30 CEST - duration depends on the sign-ups.

Check below for all needed informations and sign-up!


Streams: twitch xkisa twitch rehepapp YouTube Deathmatch TV YouTube Summer Cup #2 Vods
Links: Rules, Signup, mIRC HoQLeagues, Twitter HouseofQuake, Donations Overview
Edited by h8m3 at 16:20 BST, 27 August 2016 - 1461 Hits
QUAKECON 2016 FRAG MOVIE (8 comments)
Posted by zeroql @ 14:06 BST, 13 August 2016 - iMsg
Hey guys i will need little help with QuakeCon 2016 frag movie, so i dont have time to watch demos since i am busy with other things around FACEIT, i would be very grateful if you guys could help me around getting timestamps of frags.

example: rapha-vs-evil-grandfinal-map-time.of.frag(timer going up)

Also you could suggest some music and i will consider it :)
Thank you!
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Diabotical Update #1 (108 comments)
Posted by zeebee @ 12:04 BST, 13 August 2016 - iMsg
After hitting its kickstarter goal for Diabotical, the GD studio posted an update, with a number of interesting points.


Edited by Memento_Mori at 13:23 BST, 17 August 2016 - 4361 Hits
Reflex DANSKYTO (31 comments)
Posted by CrazyAl @ 20:02 BST, 12 August 2016 - iMsg



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Rating: 7.8 (33 votes)
My first ever movie project. Frags by Finland Danskq & Finland Kyto.

Special thanks to United Kingdom fuglaa & United Kingdom Joe for being a continued source of inspiration.

Music:
W.A.S.P. - Murders In The New Morgue (Chainsaw Charlie)
Army of the Pharaohs - Battle Cry
Edited by CrazyAl at 20:02 BST, 12 August 2016 - 2172 Hits
Quake Champions NET CODE missing!!! (55 comments)
Posted by wwwAnyBoy @ 14:22 BST, 12 August 2016 - iMsg
id tech6 + saber.

What about netcode? better than Quake Live?
What about watching demos? Multipov ?
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Timers, champions and so on (12 comments)
Posted by Infuscomus @ 10:35 BST, 12 August 2016 - iMsg
There is going to be a new Quake, with special abilities for champions, and the return of these damn timers. Man I HATE change, I really do. In almost everything in life. Common feeling I suppose.

Still, I find myself pretty optimistic with the new title for now and I refuse to jump in the hate train for the Quake to come. I see a lot of irony here and there, people are making fun of the game while we didn't see much and compare it to Overwatch, say id are incompetent and they will fuck up the game and so on. I'm almost sure if the game was released today as a free demo like they did with DOOM before the lauchned, we would see a massive amount of downvote on the steam page with comments like "this is no Quake, congratz id you fucked it all", "go and play QL, this is low Overwatch copy", etc.

This would be stupid. And, even if the game happens to be shit and you think it is, I think it would be a bad idea to downvote it and bash it online. If you don't like it, at least ignore it. The way I see it is that, if you like arena games, and the next Quake is going to be the one which has the chance to be advertised massively, then you will ruin everything by downvoting it or hating on it. Because, if a massive amount of people play Quake Champions, they might get interested in other games of the genre such as QL, Reflex, maybe Diabotical, and these games you might find better than Quake Champions will actually benefit from a new popular Quake (if Quake Champions is bad for QL / Reflex lovers, they will stick to QL / Reflex mostly so I'm not sure the games will die).

Long story short, even if I would be the perfect guy to bash this game, I won't do it, and I hope the community gets actually more positive. The game is very early in devlopment, let's try to bring constructive criticism.

Something difficult for Quake Champions will be to satisfy a majority of current players + seduce newcomers. I think a classic mode will be needed to gather everyone in the same place).

Now, if we take the new things we have seen in the trailers and so on, here are some points I'd like to talk about :

Timers :

I am a bad timer, I hate it because I am a noob and I forget everything, etc. Yet, I find it's one of the most important part of Quake. I only discovered timing quite late when I got interested in the competitive scene in 2009 or something. When I played Q3 in solo when I was younger, I think the default setting had no clock so I didn't even think for one second timing was possible. Timing mistakes is what can turn a game, it's an absolutely fantastic skill to master and will make a difference and bring upsets in high level games.

Still, to me, Quake lacks noob teaching and help. The basic game is too rough and it isn't clear to a newcomer what the possibilities are and the imperative things in the game to master (moves, timing, aim). So, I think the timers might actually be a good thing, but not for the high level. I think a ranked timing system could benefit all players and satisfy the oldschoolers like me who think that dumbing down the game with timers is going to far off the Q3 / QL model which has proven to be solid and bring good games for 16 years now.

I suppose the game will have tiers, I hope so at least, so, let's say there are four tiers, I think a system like this would make sense :

Tier 1 : Full timer (with every second visible on top of item)

Tier 2 - Tier 3 : Quarter time timers (like we see in the leaked video I think). Less precise than the first one, to allow more mistake.

Tier 4 : No timers. Players should have learnt the time by this level, or at least understand what timing is about and work on it.

Another thing now, "Champions"

Curiously, I actually have no real problem with special abilities. At first, I thought I'd throw me off the window, but in the end... I find myself quite neutral. To me, these special capabilities are in some way "micro-powerups". There is invisibility powerup in Q3 / QL, there is teleporter (ok not the same way... but still), etc.

The real problem I have with this is that you have to chose a precise champion to have a particular ability. But I hate Ranger ! I don't like Anarki at all ! The most awesome thing in QL was to chose a character you thought had a badass look, or a cool sound. This champion system will force people to use characters they don't like. I'm well aware this is a minor issue though, but I would gladly enjoy the fact that it's possible to chose a special ability with any character. You chose Ranger, but you prefer wallhack, then be it, because it's the capability that changes the game, not the model.

Tell me what you think of all this random rant and propositions. I think we have the time to bring positive things and ideas. I hope Sync or people from id will follow this site a bit because it's an important one for the QL community. We need to open a thread with ideas for monetisation also if it's not the case yet, etc. Game is early in devlopment, this is the moment to try to encourage devlopers and do our best to make them chose a path that is respected by the actual community while not immediately insulting them because they bring "micro-powerups" into the game play.

Also, we got to find a way to make this new game popular in Asia (Russia doesn't count), how come they rule the SC scene in 1v1 but never got into QL 1v1 ? Asia ! And, please consider having multiple language support in the menus (not voices in game and such, not important). To me, it's better if young ones that suck in english can comprehend the description of champions, tutorials for strafe jumps and rocket jumps, etc. because a lot of people have a lack of skill in english and they have to have the maximum of information into the game without having to go on youtube to check of ask things on forums.
Edited by Infuscomus at 10:42 BST, 12 August 2016 - 838 Hits
Who is &#19978;&#28023;&#22823;&#24107; (5 comments)
Posted by tehown @ 05:18 BST, 12 August 2016 - iMsg
He doesn't participate in tourneys. Barely speaks english. Nobody knows him. Yet 6th on qlranks.

I am salty and I want answers.
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QC2016 - all configs and demos (2 comments)
Posted by t0rte @ 18:59 BST, 11 August 2016 - iMsg
Havent seen it here so far:

Just found this link on reddit to all configs and demos.
http://demos.igmdb.org/QuakeCon%202016/

Original reddit link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/QuakeLive/comments/4...ource=link
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QC:Theres still hope for a classic mode! (31 comments)
Posted by Ward_- @ 05:59 BST, 11 August 2016 - iMsg
Theres still hope for classic mode

The response-at-large since Quake Champions' gameplay was revealed to the world has been positive as well, though some holdouts are hopeful for the option to play without the different champions — an experience that might actually resemble "Quake 3 with better graphics."

"We've discussed it," Willits said. "We just have to see how all the beta testing goes. If there's a huge demand for it, you know, we'll see — but we haven't made that decision yet."

Source: http://www.polygon.com/2016/8/5/12387546/quak...eplay-beta
Edited by wn at 23:03 BST, 11 August 2016 - 1495 Hits
Quakecon 2016 Frag Videos by FaceIt (9 comments)
Posted by Lilie @ 02:03 BST, 11 August 2016 - iMsg
FaceIt did a couple frag videos for the event based on Thursday and Friday's game play. Enjoy them here:

Quakeworld: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T2mhSFRRMg

Quake Live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzbgqhw0gyw
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How is the right side grip of the EC2-A? (2 comments)
Posted by crash4 @ 01:33 BST, 11 August 2016 - iMsg
I'm using a g400. I use the "ridge" and inward curve of the right side for my grip. The right side of the ec1-a and ec2-a seem to curve outward like the zowie AM or deathadder. The zowie AM hurt my hand because the side curve forced my ring and pinkie finger into an awkward position. I couldn't pick up the deathadder to adjust its position because my ring and pinkie fingers slipped on the side.

Can anyone who's tried these mice comment on this?
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Quakecon 2016 Demos and Configs (29 comments)
Posted by Lilie @ 23:30 BST, 10 August 2016 - iMsg
We put the finals demos up in the demo section, but here are the demos, config files, and hud files from the Quake Live Quakecon 2016 participants. Also the demos from the Quakeworld tournament.

http://demos.igmdb.org/QuakeCon%202016

(Thanks to MaverickMSG for the new link.)
Edited by Lilie at 01:12 BST, 11 August 2016 - 1908 Hits
cg_drawgun 3 color (6 comments)
Posted by Retribution @ 22:24 BST, 10 August 2016 - iMsg
I remember it being possible to change the color of your weapon while using cg_drawgun 3. Was this removed at one point or is it still possible?
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QL working? (6 comments)
Posted by crea* @ 17:48 BST, 10 August 2016 - iMsg
Is Quake Live working for you ?

*problem solved*
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WolfcamQL question. (5 comments)
Posted by gienon @ 15:21 BST, 10 August 2016 - iMsg
Hellou.

Quick question - what's the best way to automate video capturing? I'd like to set the start- and endpoint for capturing and have it done overnight.

Cheers.
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Casual Matchmaking Concerns (No comments)
Posted by sulit @ 08:01 BST, 10 August 2016 - iMsg
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8PLAYevil -vs- SKrapha (15 comments)
Posted by zaggs @ 07:49 BST, 10 August 2016 - iMsg

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Rating: 7.5 (1 vote)
Gametype: Duel
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Old fraze vs new fraze (8 comments)
Posted by yoyoman @ 02:32 BST, 10 August 2016 - iMsg
1. who has the better overall resume?
2. who has won the most games, when matched up together?
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No Man's Sky (47 comments)
Posted by hanslolo @ 20:13 BST, 9 August 2016 - iMsg
Anyone playing it?
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I will be back (19 comments)
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UT2004 LAN in Moscow, Russia (32 comments)
Posted by Polosatiy_ru @ 15:39 BST, 9 August 2016 - iMsg
CreaGames LLC is glad to announce a first event of the CreaGames Open Series – Unreal Tournament 2004 LAN tournament which take place in Moscow, Russia. Prizes are 100 000 rubles (aprox $1600) for 1v1 and TDM 4v4.

Date: 27th of august, 2016
Participation fee: 500 rubles (every participant will get the official tournament T-Shirt)
Place: Russia, Moscow, PlayGround Net-Cafe
General Sponsor and organizer: CreaGames LLC

UT2004 1v1 Open (70 000 rubles in cash):
Rules: type of elimination is depend on number of players
Map list: Rankin, Roughinery, Ironic, Lea, Backspace
Prize distribution: 1st place – 30 000 rubles; 2nd place – 20 000 rubles; 3rd place – 10 000 rubles; 4th place – 5 000 rubles; 5-6th place – 2 500 rubles

UT2004 TDM 4v4 Open (30 000 rubles in cash):
Maps list: Rankin, Campgrounds, Antalus, AkBal, Corrugation, Goose, Grendelkeep
Prize distribution: 1st place – 16 000 rubles; 2nd place – 8 000 rubles; 3rd place – 6 000 rubles

Stream: will be available
Links: FB page or the company's website.

Upcoming tournaments of the CreaGames Open Series will focus on games like CS: GO, Dota 2 and UT4. Date – this autumn.
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Quake Live - Visor duel cup (4 comments)
Posted by Capwn @ 13:31 BST, 9 August 2016 - iMsg
The first Visor duel cup organised by Quake Live player Capwn. The cup will take place on august 11th at 10:00 CEST.

Players can sign up and get more information on http://challonge.com/visorduelcup

Admin: Capwn
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Champions (123 comments)
Posted by Xsi @ 07:49 BST, 9 August 2016 - iMsg
We've already seen a few champions. So far we have:
- Visor
- Ranger
- Scalebearer
- NyX
- Galena
- Anarki
- Clutch
- Sorlag

Willits said there will be at least dozen of them so what other characters you would like to see? What abilities they should have? I can't wait to see Sarge and Keel models.
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the Great Annual QL cfg collection! (4 comments)
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Is there an upload yet for this years Quakecon duelers config collection?
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QC closed beta next year (26 comments)
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Not sure if it has already been revealed somewhere else, but Gamereactor interviewed Tim Willits at QuakeCon, and he eluded to a closed beta which apparently is set for next year.

http://www.gamereactor.eu/grtv/?id=274333
(right at the very end of the interview)
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<< Comment #1 @ 00:09 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
Why is makaveli in that poll?

since hes already back in quake :)
<< Comment #5 @ 00:23 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #1
Some of the other players are also playing QL at the moment, such as cha0ticz I believe, however, it is nowhere near the competitive scene and as such a comeback could be in order. If Makaveli has made a comeback to the competitive scene and I missed it then he should be removed though :)
Edited by Paladia at 01:17 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #6 @ 00:27 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Quake mbc  - Reply to #5
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1772113 though not quite there yet :)
Edited by rift at 05:18 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #8 @ 00:41 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Czech Republic LukKe  - Reply to #6
you can hardly call that a "comeback to the competitive scene"
<< Comment #250 @ 07:24 GMT, 1 November 2009 >>
By stermy bubble_ru  - Reply to #8
He is comeback, like Immortal was comeback for Quake IV lol.
<< Comment #117 @ 17:17 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #6
There's also the russian makaveli, don't know which one the poll is refering too. But the russian makaveli was really good.
-Edit- Looks like he is active again , and still pretty decent looking at his matches -> Rush3Dmakaveli
Edited by Linchpin at 17:23 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #120 @ 17:43 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #117
He's never not been active.
<< Comment #122 @ 18:11 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #120
good to know :)
<< Comment #173 @ 00:12 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr  - Reply to #117
he is not good because even i win him
<< Comment #317 @ 17:47 BST, 29 September 2010 >>
By USSR Lowbird  - Reply to #117
yeah hes average or maybe above with game time
<< Comment #2 @ 00:10 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Czech Republic LukKe 
way2ez4czm!
btw "uNkind" :p
<< Comment #3 @ 00:10 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By United States of America char 
czm or unkind

speaking of zero4 comeback:

http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/summary/ZeRo4
<< Comment #4 @ 00:21 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By terran timmah 
Who is elpajuo? Never heard of that guy
<< Comment #9 @ 01:03 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Aragón tzz  - Reply to #4
Best CPM player in the US a few years ago, he played in the CXG and did really good (he had to play cooller in the WB finals but the even was shut down iirc) then disappeared a few years later and his family came here searching for help.
<< Comment #12 @ 01:34 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #9
Lost to cooller in the WB Semi final 2-1 (Won pro-q3dm6 if I recall correctly). Cooller then beat ZeRo4 in the WB Final 2-1 but the event was shut-down before the LB final between ZeRo4 and elp could be played (I think).

I think he was at QLAN2 as well.
Edited by iNkind at 01:34 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #13 @ 01:59 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #12
the event was shut-down before the LB final between ZeRo4 and elp could be played (I think).
They started playing T4 and when the score was 8-8 between them as network died for good. The organizers didn't care anymore at that point but the players wanted to proceed, regardless of the cash (which was never payed out in the end). So they connected Zero4s computer directly to elpajuo, however, the organizers then proceeded to shut down all power as well, so there wasn't much for them to do.

Hence all three, cooller, z4 and elpajuo are considered tied as #1 for that event.
Edited by Paladia at 01:59 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #14 @ 02:09 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #13
They agreed to be 1>2>3 qlr>z4>elp.
<< Comment #15 @ 02:38 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #14
That's not how I remember it, I'm quite sure they all considered themselves as tied #1 and decided to split all money and hardware.

Why would z4 be ahead of elpajuo when they only played one map which ended 8-8?
<< Comment #27 @ 10:34 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #15
WB Final.
<< Comment #33 @ 12:23 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #27
The final was to be between cooller and the winner of z4/elp (which was never finished). So how was z4 ranked ahead of elp? Regardless, you are mistaken, the official (and inofficial) results were as follows:

Duel Results:
1 - tied. Anton 'cooller' Singov (Moscow, Russia)
1 - tied. Alejandro 've-elpajuo' Gonzales (Venezuela)
1 - tied. John 'ZeRo4' Hill (San Diego, California)
4. Sean 'Daler' Price (Austin, Texas)
5 - tied. Paul 'czm' Nelson (Massachussetts)
5 - tied. Jared 'cha0tics' Cugno (Boston, Massachussets)
<< Comment #34 @ 12:25 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #33
Because z4 was in the winner bracket final and elp was in the semi.

I recall them agreeing to share the money (whether it got paid or not) split 1. qlr 2. z4 3. elp.

But anyway, it doesn't really matter and there's next to no accurate coverage of cXg anywhere and the ESR search function is beyond hopeless.
Edited by iNkind at 12:27 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #38 @ 17:55 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #34
No z4 and elp had already started playing their match when the servers were shut down.
<< Comment #40 @ 18:08 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #38
I realise that, but the match wasn't finished and like you said it was a tie.
<< Comment #97 @ 10:23 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #42 @ 18:20 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #33
due to serious major tournament shortage, he has a physical need to count cxg as something cooller won, don't take it away from him :D
<< Comment #26 @ 10:11 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Aragón tzz  - Reply to #12
Ah, yes, that sounds about right.
<< Comment #257 @ 07:53 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #12
I think he finished second at Qlan2 (cpm tournament).
Rat won, elpa 2nd, toxter third and snapcase fourth I think.

He played in the vq3 tournament also, but didn't do as well compared to the cpm one :)
<< Comment #289 @ 18:32 GMT, 15 November 2009 >>
rat played in the vq3 tournament as well. If I remember correctly he didn't lose cpm1a to anyone.
<< Comment #290 @ 21:50 GMT, 15 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #289
I think that's correct. He was quite lucky that cpm1a got picked for the vq3 tournament :D
<< Comment #20 @ 06:53 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Frags medal crv  - Reply to #4
one of the best dm6 player
<< Comment #54 @ 19:35 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #20
please cut off those retro stats!
<< Comment #55 @ 19:38 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By badys tshirt Badb0y  - Reply to #4
elpa had a really unique AGRESSIVE style, nice to watch.
<< Comment #104 @ 15:22 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #55
RJ binds :DD
<< Comment #143 @ 08:49 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #55
Whenever I watched him move around, especially on DM6, he would do some things that seemed completely crazy or doomed to failure. They always seemed to pay off, though.

One time he did the standard bridge to rail and it seemed obvious he was going to miss. He managed to air-control himself over farther than seemed possible like it was nothing. Also he would regularly dive down onto players where it would seem they would shaft him to death before he hit ground but it never seemed to cause him any trouble.
<< Comment #297 @ 16:07 GMT, 21 November 2009 >>
By Netherlands Terifire  - Reply to #143
One time he did the standard bridge to rail and it seemed obvious he was going to miss. He managed to air-control himself over farther than seemed possible like it was nothing.

Want to see this:D
<< Comment #318 @ 14:00 BST, 30 September 2010 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #297
He did a lot of that stuff from what I saw, some of the most enteraining movement ever for sure! he is missed ;<
<< Comment #99 @ 10:33 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Unset gnarf  - Reply to #4
d:D
<< Comment #174 @ 00:13 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr  - Reply to #99
:D
<< Comment #105 @ 15:23 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #4
only south american quaker to "make it big" afaik. Loved watching him play though.
<< Comment #167 @ 20:10 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Greece MaJunior  - Reply to #105
you forget reef, the Fatal1ty killer :D
<< Comment #194 @ 18:41 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Sweden phaces  - Reply to #4
...alias elputo...he´s gg :)
<< Comment #7 @ 00:37 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By United States of America erok 
would like to see how fatal1ty would fair
<< Comment #10 @ 01:09 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Poland mefajpE^ 
czm - smarter choice. great personality, amazing player.
<< Comment #11 @ 01:32 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini 
<uNkind>
<< Comment #16 @ 02:39 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz 
For me, unkind would be most fun to watch in qlive with his rockets.

But the hype for fat, czm or tox matches would make for fun spectacting too.
<< Comment #17 @ 03:18 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands QuiXilver 
Zero4!
<< Comment #18 @ 04:22 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By wc3_undead mammon 
Sujoy but that won't happen.
xext toxjq, not likely but he would be a top contender if he had the time to put in
third probably Fatality or czm, the mappool suits american playstyle at the moment with t9 and t7
<< Comment #19 @ 06:35 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_ 
I voted for PELE cus I remember watching his old demos and being in awe about his interesting style. Most people probably don't remember him. He played a lot like unkind, just years before unkind was in the scene. Really smart and killer rox.

I don't think there is enough $ out there to motivate most of these people back. When you get older and have more responsibilities, it is impossible to put in the time required to be a top tier quake player. You have to choose to either dedicate your time to a game that nobody follows or do something real with your life.
Edited by JayDee_ at 06:40 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #300 @ 18:57 GMT, 29 November 2009 >>
By SpawnRaped anal justice  - Reply to #19
this guy had the most unusual binds and I am not talking about smileys and such :)
<< Comment #21 @ 06:53 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Frags medal crv 
Unkind
<< Comment #22 @ 07:26 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks 
Sujoy. To this site \o/
<< Comment #23 @ 07:27 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
PELE was really good n1 for 2 years in rus... top 5 of that list imho zero4 unkind pele fatality lexer or lakerman
<< Comment #59 @ 20:06 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By heart rockz  - Reply to #23
no czm? shame on u
<< Comment #24 @ 07:37 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
daler chaoticz socrates makaveli blokey - why we need to see their comaback if we have rapha now =)... polos blue stelam were really interesting players but not really top imho... 9.sujoy 9.doomer(doomer 34 years old now) not sure that they can to play realy good nowdays.. and about thresh - it would be absolutly fantastic if we will see his comaback but so interesting... but of course i wanne see totally comaback of all players in that list =)
<< Comment #85 @ 05:26 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By ezQuake f0cus  - Reply to #24
Holy hell it's Alchemist03.

DUDE. Stop learning english, it's ruining the fun :(
<< Comment #197 @ 10:33 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By eldvakt LoCK  - Reply to #85
I WANT TO SEE TOTALLY COMABACK!
<< Comment #25 @ 08:41 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By zerg vedic 
I miss czm's cheesy antics. =(
<< Comment #28 @ 10:41 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke 
czm
<< Comment #29 @ 10:41 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany cYmoZz 
fatality + toxic
<< Comment #267 @ 11:05 GMT, 3 November 2009 >>
By US-California Venim  - Reply to #29
exactly what i'd like to see
<< Comment #30 @ 11:05 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Finland duumed 
there are so many great players i'd like to come back since i wasn't following q3 in the first few years and didn't get to see them in action.

voted for czm
<< Comment #31 @ 11:52 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone 
Fatal1ty will add legitimacy and glamour to tournaments. He will probably bring more sponsorship to Quakelive just by competing.
<< Comment #32 @ 12:07 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Sweden ArchaiK 
toxjq wihout a doubt. tox and fox 2v2 would make be spray things all over the screen.
<< Comment #35 @ 12:32 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Poland tifu 
it's really hard to pick only one, so i went with toxjq as i think he could come back and really compete. i'm not so sure about rest of those guys - they got old :P, moved on or just might not have time...
<< Comment #36 @ 13:52 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia ambro 
thresh comeback with a ferrari on quakecon :)
<< Comment #45 @ 18:29 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cx  - Reply to #36
he sold it afaik
<< Comment #175 @ 14:32 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By dollar zoinks  - Reply to #45
Did Carmack buy it back? :D
<< Comment #37 @ 16:58 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Finland Tzeentch 
LeXeR!

\o/
<< Comment #39 @ 18:03 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
I picked fat because you know he's gonna actually practice unlike the rest of these lazy bums
<< Comment #46 @ 18:33 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By terran timmah  - Reply to #39
Most of them practice, they all just tell different degrees of lies about the time.

But I guess time put in is not the only factor that will decide level of play.
Edited by timmah at 18:38 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #91 @ 08:33 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By wc3_human DamianLillard  - Reply to #46
Yeah that's what I meant, that all of them would stop playing completely between official tournaments! a gift for you

http://www.tynansanger.com/uploaded_images/sa...710628.jpg

[img1]
Edited by Vernon Schillinger at 08:34 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #41 @ 18:12 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Italy exp! 
crazyman e toxjq
<< Comment #43 @ 18:22 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe 
ain't gonna vote zero4 cause he probably has no motivation whatsoever to play again.


but i vote fatal1ty, cause fat returning to play would promote ql more than anything.


+ czm, ql fits his style
Edited by Lethe at 18:28 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #47 @ 18:46 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #43
Suits uNkind more!
<< Comment #48 @ 18:51 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #47
unkind is so...2002 =(
<< Comment #49 @ 18:53 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #48
Can't believe z4 only has one vote.
<< Comment #51 @ 19:16 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Earth Lethe  - Reply to #49
probably everyone watched his latest demo :D
<< Comment #88 @ 07:42 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz  - Reply to #49
Only cause they got to see him play last year - so not much of a comeback
<< Comment #44 @ 18:29 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cx 
fatal1ty + thresh,

thresh will never come back though,
and fat will only come if there is some more money.
<< Comment #50 @ 18:59 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Six16 
I picked Fatality because id like to see how good he is now compared to the likes of rapha etc..

but id also like to see Lexer, stelam, blue and Lakerman come back..

Also, list needs Stelam adding :)
Edited by d3c4y at 18:59 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #52 @ 19:31 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #50
er?
<< Comment #64 @ 21:40 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Six16  - Reply to #52
er, well i was thinking it was a ninja edit, but seems its not, i didnt see :)
<< Comment #53 @ 19:32 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd 
slinger, kane, american makaveli, menendez, if22, pele,unholy (anyone remembers him?! :-D ) gogogo :p

i'd like to see fat and stelam if ive to choose tho,,,
Edited by lizahd at 19:33 BST, 23 October 2009
<< Comment #60 @ 20:07 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By heart rockz  - Reply to #53
what do u enjoy on if22?
<< Comment #62 @ 20:51 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #60
in his early days, like until cpl holland he wasnt +back at all :P
<< Comment #66 @ 22:08 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Weird  - Reply to #62
wow someone who remembers if-22 not being +back.....
you might have a really good memory... or a really bad one. (I for one don't remember who played how before cpl holland Oo)
<< Comment #89 @ 07:44 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By mcdonalds phz  - Reply to #53
Imagine the joy of watching if22 +back t9 to defend a 1 frag lead :)
<< Comment #320 @ 11:56 BST, 14 April 2011 >>
By CSS Furball  - Reply to #53
i'd rather see Dta back than if-22 =)

Phear the HPB Rail biatch! (unholy) =]
<< Comment #56 @ 19:39 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Weird 
pfffffff, this should be allowed to vote on multiple persons....
Most of them would be really nice...

But I'm so torn between players I admired :(
voted for DOOMer though cuz he was the least voted for on the list of those ppl... and someone above wrote that makaveli is already back ;)
<< Comment #57 @ 19:44 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #56
i claim most of the list startet ql at least once :PPP
<< Comment #58 @ 19:44 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By djogedj h8m3 
LeXeR!
<< Comment #61 @ 20:30 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip 
wanna see unkind & lexer back
<< Comment #63 @ 21:31 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By United States of America paulrrrr 
czm all the way.
<< Comment #84 @ 05:18 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Canada efassd  - Reply to #63
Hi czm.
<< Comment #65 @ 22:01 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Thorin 
It actually blows my mind that Blue has 3% and unkind 16%. Fuck is wrong with you people?
<< Comment #67 @ 22:25 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Austria noctis  - Reply to #65
rather see unkind play since i've already seen enough of blue in ql :p
<< Comment #68 @ 22:25 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #65
GTFO
<< Comment #150 @ 15:49 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #65
I slightly agree. Blue was really amazing in his prime q3 days, but his q4 days were not REALLY amazing. It was still nice to see him of course, but he couldn't threat the top players. I know he plays some QL, but just for fun I assume...
<< Comment #69 @ 23:01 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
By Swedish Shaft Torzelan 
Fatal1ty for QL's sake, Toxic for my sake <3
<< Comment #70 @ 23:56 BST, 23 October 2009 >>
Lakerman, babe, Lakerman
!

[ed] the list is kinda ridiculous, because many guys here did not retire for good -for example fatality, it is a well know fact the moment there will be big money prizes mister Anderson will be back, toxjq also played last year, and you miss him already?
Edited by ScarletJohansonsFather at 00:01 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #76 @ 01:22 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #70
Well, they retired from the competitive Quake scene (which they all were a part of earlier) and thus could come back to it again.
Edited by Paladia at 01:23 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #82 @ 03:49 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #76
I would not call a year or two of inactivity, retirement. Even if it is technically retirement, as long as we've seen them not too much time ago, it's not enough to call it in a joy, the great return of the dark knight.
To be more specific, my daughter went down from our bed in the morning, and in the evening she was climbing it again, fully enthusiastic, I would not call what she was doing today, a truly retirement.
Same love story.
<< Comment #71 @ 00:21 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex 
Impossible to make a decision. I want czm, Thresh, LakermaN and toxic back. Z4muZ is missing, and I want All*Nirvana to play a lot and show his skill internationally for real.
<< Comment #72 @ 00:23 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #71
Ali Naab is missing too
<< Comment #73 @ 00:32 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #72
Never heard of him.. :P
<< Comment #74 @ 00:38 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #73
=(
unpossible
<< Comment #75 @ 01:20 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #71
Z4muZ isn't missing as he's already doing a comeback. He's playing for excello, participated in the QL Quick Cup and has signed up for Dreamhack.
Edited by Paladia at 01:20 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #77 @ 01:29 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #75
Yeah, I was told after I wrote it :) I'm not really paying attention these days. His stats on QL seems good, hope he attends a big tourney soon.
<< Comment #78 @ 01:32 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #77
Didn't you read the Dreamhack part? :) It's the second biggest QL tournament if you count how many good players that are participating. Unfortunately I don't think he has enough time to prepare properly for it but will be great to see him in action again.
<< Comment #79 @ 02:06 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Norway netrex  - Reply to #78
Hm, no I didn't. When is Dreamhack? It would be nice to go there and photograph for ESR :)

Edit: I found it, starts on my birthday, if I read it right, 26th of November. It will be fun to watch :)

Edit 2: I'm checking traveling costs to see if I can do it, it would have been awesome :D Specially since in 2002 or 2003 I ended up not being able to go to QLAN :)
Edited by netrex at 02:21 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #258 @ 08:06 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze  - Reply to #79
come! :D
I'll fix you up with a press-pass if you can make it!
<< Comment #80 @ 03:02 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Uruguay gSTRUCTOR 
Easy one, fat ofc, it would be "HUGE"(c)2GD for QL.
<< Comment #81 @ 03:13 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By USSR s3cco 
rat
<< Comment #83 @ 03:50 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive.cz baron Railgun  - Reply to #81
damn rats, always scattering in the shadows, making me jumpy!...
<< Comment #86 @ 05:36 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Germany butchji 
toxjq and SteLam :)
<< Comment #87 @ 07:39 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
Fatality is the one who could most realistically make a comeback and be a force in tournaments. Video games are supposed to be his full time job, right?
<< Comment #94 @ 09:07 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #87
and not for those for those other pro gamers who play 6-8 hours easily a day?
Edited by confusion at 09:07 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #126 @ 20:03 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
For $3000 every 6 months? lol.
<< Comment #90 @ 08:11 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Latvia fuzz 
czm and socrates
<< Comment #92 @ 08:48 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden azmo 
Shub of course ;)
<< Comment #130 @ 21:31 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Fejl(Folklore)  - Reply to #92
That would be really cool:P
<< Comment #93 @ 09:03 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By ^__^ bl4ze 
wombat
<< Comment #95 @ 09:13 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
crezyman for hub
ZeRo4 for t4
<< Comment #96 @ 09:14 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
lexer, unkind, pele, socrates :(
<< Comment #98 @ 10:31 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
Someone else: 0.6% (1)3)

-Forever
-iF-22

Dutch glory!
<< Comment #100 @ 14:43 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #98
I'm pretty sure forever is still playing =). Or do you mean as a dueller?
<< Comment #115 @ 16:51 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #100
Yeah I meant if he would make a comeback in the 'programing scene'.
<< Comment #202 @ 19:02 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By ql loveless  - Reply to #115
i wanna see some more chairs thrown
COME BACK FOREVER!
<< Comment #101 @ 14:44 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius 
stelam and whole sk back for tdm =)
<< Comment #102 @ 15:10 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #101
dont you prefer unmatched?
<< Comment #119 @ 17:25 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #102
well, no, since kane is my favorite player and he needs to be in it! =). (so that's stelam, kane, zyz, neok)
<< Comment #121 @ 17:44 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #119
Slinger not neok! (Not to bash neok of course)
<< Comment #124 @ 19:05 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #121
nah! I always felt slinger was the 'weakest link' in the unmatched days.
<< Comment #146 @ 13:54 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop?  - Reply to #124
now that's odd. i suggest to watch some of the old demos which clearly show that sl1nger was one of (if not THE) the key players in unmatched's (or SK's) success. i always felt that neok was the "weakest" individual player in that team. all in all those guys were awesome together and seeing them again would be a pleasure. especially from a german perspective since we pretty much only have k1llsen nowadays.
Edited by Loop? at 13:57 GMT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #149 @ 15:40 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #146
hmm, and it seems SK was mostly kane, stelam, slinger & para anyways, so I'd pick that team then.
I always thought slinger had often the worst NET/the most deaths. Gonna check some demos for sure! The good ol' days damned, I want them back ='(
<< Comment #153 @ 16:45 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #149
Kane was their "star" player, every time I've faced them he was always way ahead of the others. Even the maps they lost he was usually ahead of most of our players :)
<< Comment #181 @ 00:45 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop?  - Reply to #149
probably slinger was too busy yelling at his teammates for getting fragged on these occasions :D anyway, would be awesome to see some high profile tdm back, fully agree.
<< Comment #196 @ 10:07 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Germany torfteufel  - Reply to #146
if you still have demos showing u or sk play tdm, esp. stelam pov ofcourse :DD
PLS UP THEM TO THE AGP WEBPAGE !!
vote for stelam btw :]
<< Comment #162 @ 18:43 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany butchji  - Reply to #119
Kane is a professional football player nowadays. :)
He plays in the 2nd League in Germany.
<< Comment #164 @ 19:49 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #162
so he transformed his quake dodging and hitting skills into football :)
<< Comment #171 @ 23:26 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Belgium Gladius  - Reply to #162
yes I know, and he seems to be in the team quite a lot too.

http://www.rwo-online.de/saison/rwo/kader.php?show=574
<< Comment #103 @ 15:11 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By 011 nemecel 
Is uNkind alive?
<< Comment #106 @ 15:38 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo Liam 
voted for unborn
<< Comment #107 @ 16:03 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #112 @ 16:27 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #107
I don't really use that account (that was my 1st and only game) as I like to play in peace/quiet and have a good time. That's what happens when you get old... you like quiet, haha! Especially sometimes when I come home in the evening after a few drinks...

I could always play Counter-strike when I had some liquor, but quake, oh boy... all over the place with some alcohol, haha.

I need to get rid of this monitor though... 25 ms response time and only 72 Hz LCD.... hehe -- I don't know how much it is gimping me, but from what I've been told, it is pretty bad.

I am trying to get Unholy, immortal, and some of my other friends to start playing again though.
Edited by K9-makaveli at 16:38 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #118 @ 17:22 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By South Africa Linchpin  - Reply to #112
your russian nemesis is still active :D, see link.
Rush3Dmakaveli
Edited by Linchpin at 21:01 BST, 24 October 2009
<< Comment #136 @ 23:49 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #112
Hell yeah, you should try and form a tdm clan, atleast that you can still play for laughs without it taking too much time. Although I've heard tdm isn't big in the US atm :(
<< Comment #137 @ 01:42 BST, 25 October 2009 >>
By 005 poindexter  - Reply to #136
Get the rest of Deathrow out of the rest home and back in ql...
<< Comment #108 @ 16:14 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #109 @ 16:16 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
No immortal on the list? ='-(
<< Comment #110 @ 16:21 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #109
He made a comeback in Q4 and didn't do all that great, not terrible by any means but not really that impressive.
<< Comment #111 @ 16:25 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #110
That's because I wasn't practicing with him!!! =) hehe
<< Comment #113 @ 16:48 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #111
woow you're back nice. always enjoyed watching your demos.
still play with that high sense?
<< Comment #116 @ 16:58 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #113
I think I'm just twitchy.. not really the sensitivity.
<< Comment #123 @ 18:17 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By Germany lizahd  - Reply to #116
move unholy here asap!!! :)
<< Comment #125 @ 19:07 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By pirate mkeiy  - Reply to #109
lol that guy was a fucking drop kick
<< Comment #201 @ 17:06 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #109
An immy comeback would be cool. I always thought his style was unique and strange. He had slow clumsy movement, but could out aim everybody by a great margin. He would hit crazy rails in ql.
<< Comment #230 @ 15:16 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #232 @ 15:38 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #230
Nope
<< Comment #114 @ 16:51 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
1. Fatality or Toxic
<< Comment #127 @ 20:29 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW_ cx 
From Wikipedia (last sentence in the article about fat):
Has recently become a Full Tilt Poker Pro using his tag.

It seems 90 % of the progamers become pokerplayers after their gaming career.
<< Comment #128 @ 20:36 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #127
No education, no skills.

Poker awaits...
<< Comment #148 @ 15:38 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #128
I told him to go to college and not rely on the gaming stuff...

Hope he listened to me.
<< Comment #165 @ 19:50 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #148
Fatal1ty made a lot of money with gaming and he is now a business man who promotes his own products. Why should he go to college?
<< Comment #169 @ 22:35 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #165
Because he had to sell out and still has a quite unreliable job, it's nothing to raise a family or buy a house with, nothing in pro gaming is imo.
<< Comment #195 @ 20:57 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By United States of America K9-makaveli  - Reply to #169
This......
<< Comment #207 @ 01:17 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Netherlands Vo0  - Reply to #169
But...but...he's a millionaire.
<< Comment #214 @ 15:07 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By amerikkka voodoochopstiks  - Reply to #207
:D You want your own smug face on those motherboards?
<< Comment #268 @ 11:10 GMT, 3 November 2009 >>
By US-California Venim  - Reply to #207
you should be on this list too btw
<< Comment #303 @ 14:15 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #169
its not unreliable. this comment is true ignorance. Are you his tax accountant? You actually know his income?

He's made. And i don't even agree with how he did it either.
Edited by Cloud at 14:22 GMT, 8 March 2010
<< Comment #302 @ 14:13 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #128
poker doesn't take any skill?



How much money would you like to play for?
<< Comment #306 @ 14:42 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #302
Yeah, you got me, that was what I was saying.
<< Comment #308 @ 16:35 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #306
oh

now i see what u did there..
<< Comment #129 @ 20:41 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek 
would love to see Fatal1ty in action

but... he loses in FFA shootouts :(

http://www.quakelive.com/#profile/matches/fatal1ty/20695878/DM
<< Comment #133 @ 23:47 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #129
Haha, it is really hard to win every FFA.
<< Comment #135 @ 23:48 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek  - Reply to #133
:p
<< Comment #157 @ 17:27 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #159 @ 17:41 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck vicek  - Reply to #157
yeah at some point in one of those 2v4 matches the score was, if i remember correctly, 197:0 ;-)

still beating him in ffa was a nice experience :p
<< Comment #131 @ 23:12 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
LakermaN!!!!
<< Comment #134 @ 23:47 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #131
Lakerman would be awesome, but he probably need too much time to get back into it. His old "esp" used to give me orgasms.
<< Comment #132 @ 23:47 BST, 24 October 2009 >>
By 2k2_2 Nukm 
tox and fat
<< Comment #139 @ 01:17 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By United States of America Hito 
Impossible to choose one, ive always liked Pele and Lakermans style. Would love to see Lexer, Czm and Fat back too though...

I think any match between rapha, cooller, fat and czm in their prime would just be amazing.
<< Comment #138 @ 01:10 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Portugal stuntz 
Polos is rulez :D
<< Comment #140 @ 01:32 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By USSR EKSelenc 
uNkind or toxjq.
<< Comment #142 @ 08:45 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
immortal (usa), Shub-niGGa (nor) and Scion (nor).
Are true legends for me.
/[pig]Parish
<< Comment #141 @ 07:16 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpma Adel 
toxjq
<< Comment #144 @ 09:33 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Denmark amOKchen 
I've always been a lakerman fan, so heres my top5 :p

1. LakermaN
2. toxic
3. unkind
4. daler
5. elpajuo (this guy was amazing not much footage on him though)
<< Comment #145 @ 10:35 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By rpnew telly 
Pietro
<< Comment #147 @ 13:59 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Germany Loop? 
lexer,stelam,sl1nger,zyz,kane, czm,fatal1ty, in no specific order.

+ cooller being as successful as he used to be ;)
Edited by Loop? at 14:00 GMT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #151 @ 16:06 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Denmark Vium 
k3no og hazzi aka gur piuv
<< Comment #152 @ 16:15 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS 
- ElkY
- Grrr..
- rat
<< Comment #154 @ 16:46 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #152
Major Poll: QL

"Quake live has brought quite a few players back to the scene. Which comeback to the Quake competitive scene would you rather see (as a player)?"

:(
Edited by Paladia at 16:46 GMT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #155 @ 16:52 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS  - Reply to #154
WHICH COMEBACK WOULD YOU RATHER SEE?
<list of persons and some random blabla i didn't care about>
<< Comment #156 @ 16:53 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By pandabearguy KekS  - Reply to #155
also any of my list rather than any of yours :p
<< Comment #158 @ 17:28 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #155
Well, you should at least check which category its in :)

However, you can do a SC one sometime later. Though most SC players have already made a comeback. :)
Edited by Paladia at 17:28 GMT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #160 @ 18:03 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By US-Pennsylvania judge717 
czm easy
<< Comment #161 @ 18:27 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By stermy bubble_ru 
Best fail :

"A Legend return", quake IV, Immortal.
Videos etc ...

A Legend Returns
Once, long ago, a legend trod the earth, fragging opponents with ease and reigning as a good and wise champion.

Until, one day, he vanished into the mists of time.

On Tuesday, he returns.....and GGL.com will cover every step of his exciting comeback
<< Comment #163 @ 19:20 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By Done linoleuM 
rat or czm
Edited by linoleuM at 19:20 GMT, 25 October 2009
<< Comment #166 @ 19:51 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
lakerman vs z4 on t4... interesting.
<< Comment #168 @ 22:31 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 stunt.us 
imagine stx-kash playing QL. I mean osp was super easy for him. I want to see the kash come back!
<< Comment #170 @ 22:42 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke  - Reply to #168
kash=rapha
<< Comment #172 @ 23:53 GMT, 25 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 stunt.us  - Reply to #170
no wai! kash was known for having aim of GODS with lg and railgun. rapha just runs and spams rl.
<< Comment #176 @ 14:45 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Finland duumed  - Reply to #172
rapha just walks and spams rl.

there, i fixed it for you
<< Comment #179 @ 18:48 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By cpm_biohaz_2 stunt.us  - Reply to #176
hahah true ;D
<< Comment #247 @ 23:32 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By nihil madbringer  - Reply to #168
You know, i hate you. But i have to say, you're one heck of a good troll.
<< Comment #254 @ 01:05 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By clawo Liam  - Reply to #247
We need another poll to decide imo.

I'm pretty sure I know what the outcome will be though.
<< Comment #304 @ 14:16 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #247
what in the fuck are u talkin about?
<< Comment #305 @ 14:30 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By nihil madbringer  - Reply to #304
Nice reflex, retard. Fuck off back to your cave.
<< Comment #307 @ 14:59 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #305
reflex? what in the Fuck are you talkin about now you stupid fuckin idiot? just shut the fuck up ur fuckin useless and worthless
<< Comment #309 @ 19:35 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By nihil madbringer  - Reply to #307
Shush, kid. I know it's hard to live with a reading disability, don't make yourself look even worse.
<< Comment #177 @ 14:58 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen` 
PELE[PK]
<< Comment #178 @ 15:58 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By Quake 3 (black) ddk 
THERAILMCCOY
<< Comment #186 @ 15:23 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By AUSNL by dann zkyp  - Reply to #178
!!!!!
<< Comment #180 @ 20:41 GMT, 26 October 2009 >>
By QuakeLive JDMYO 
czm of course - he was the SHIT! possibly the best allround Quake3 player of all time - tdm, cpm, 1v1 etc. Who could forget that T4 game he had against Aim (Ambix?) where he hit 3 pixel rails in a row from the bottom level to the top whilst Aim was stacked in sudden death overtime to win the game :) was awesome!
And didn't czm give Cooller his biggest defeat of his carreer on hub :)
<< Comment #184 @ 09:59 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By zerg vedic  - Reply to #180
demo?
<< Comment #185 @ 11:27 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
<< Comment #192 @ 18:24 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen`  - Reply to #180
czm TDM? lol
<< Comment #204 @ 20:56 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By United States of America erok  - Reply to #192
he played for cK when they were the top NA team and actually did well against euro teams
<< Comment #182 @ 04:17 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By US-California per1klez 
i dont understand all the talk for czm.. he tried to come back with EG last year and got pwned. I'd much rather see fatal1ty go for gold.
<< Comment #183 @ 09:46 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #182
czm is a secure ticket, if fatality can adjust to the level quake is played is something else.
Also probably why he is reluctant to jump into it, the level is to high for him :P
<< Comment #233 @ 17:12 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By protoss micke  - Reply to #182
czm is a likeable character, fatalalalaonetwoty isn't
<< Comment #234 @ 17:36 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By US-California per1klez  - Reply to #233
Fortunately for him, that is an opinion restricted mainly to ESR and few other esports communities. For the other millions of people that have heard of him or seen him play, his persona is far more likable than that of a czm.
<< Comment #262 @ 18:13 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By ezQuake f0cus  - Reply to #234
whoa now. I'm not and have never been a fatal1ty basher. I got along with him just fine the few times I've actually spent a little time with him, but you should give Paul more credit. He's great.
<< Comment #266 @ 09:00 GMT, 3 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #262
why are you arguing with periklez as if he had any clue of wha he's taking about?
<< Comment #187 @ 15:35 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip 
keeper should come back too
<< Comment #188 @ 16:37 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By aggnog_duck spyteman  - Reply to #187
hah yeah he was solid :D
<< Comment #189 @ 17:05 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #187
keep3r
<< Comment #190 @ 17:15 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By knirtlotz*deotrip deotrip  - Reply to #189
k29.keep3r
keep3r^v4
c58|Keep3r
Edited by deotrip at 17:16 GMT, 27 October 2009
<< Comment #191 @ 17:37 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By B2L - Orange Animated NL dontwantlifestopit  - Reply to #190
well done ;)
<< Comment #277 @ 06:01 GMT, 7 November 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #187
From what I gather, he's playing CS these days. He was pretty awesome to watch on ztn back when he was in shape (an unfortunately brief time).
<< Comment #193 @ 18:41 GMT, 27 October 2009 >>
By Sweden phaces 
Lexer
<< Comment #314 @ 03:46 BST, 31 July 2010 >>
By exclamation point CLains  - Reply to #193
yes! it would be the most fun
<< Comment #198 @ 14:57 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM 
my vote stays with zyz
<< Comment #199 @ 15:36 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Poland panadol 
stelam slinger and everyone else
<< Comment #200 @ 16:51 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_ 
Mikes for TDM? Also it would be cool if Dag, Def, or Reppie from qw tried their hands at ql duel.
Edited by JayDee_ at 16:52 GMT, 28 October 2009
<< Comment #205 @ 20:59 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Bhutan frozen`  - Reply to #200
Mikes may be will come back!
<< Comment #209 @ 06:09 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #200
Why should they waste time with a shitty, slow, hitscan cs game? Especially +forward Reppie with his 5cm/360 sensitivity. Waste of talent imo.
Edited by terrorhead at 06:10 GMT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #210 @ 09:12 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #209
Because they have been playing the same players and shithouse maps since the creation of the universe. However, I'll agree qw has superior fundamental gameplay and the top players would probably never switch to anything else. I just think it would be nice to see a guy of Reppies insane talents try something different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6REVMQYrK8
<< Comment #211 @ 09:27 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead  - Reply to #210
Not sure if I want to see Reppie in QL. Everyone would just own him. He would have to completely change his setup and style of play.

I agree about maps though. dm2 and possibly dm4 should be removed from comps.

Nice vid. I still have that demo :D
Edited by terrorhead at 09:28 GMT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #213 @ 13:37 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #200
I would go as far as saying that players like dag aren't as talented as some of the top players in QL.

When QW was the game, when it had players like DOOMer, Sniket, oKKun, Lakerman, Kane and so on, dag played at that time as well (I don't know if reppie or def played at that time but if they did they were so poor they weren't even known in the slightest then). However, dag, or dagurra as he was known as then, didn't stand a chance against those players, he was even at a lower level of play than me.

When all good players leave from a dead community, some lesser player is bound to take the #1 spot.

That goes for most of those current QW "stars", such as pietro, locktar, riker, xalibur, mrlane and so on. I do not even think they would disagree with me.
<< Comment #216 @ 15:28 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By nihil madbringer  - Reply to #213
Dude, less talented? QW requires a different skillset altogether. Different strats, movement, weapons, it's hard to compare, even. Also, how can you know if the current "stars" of QW wouldn't catch up to the old masters even, if they did stay in the game?

I'd say, if they'd put in time and effort, some of them could become top contenders in QL.
<< Comment #217 @ 16:19 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QW_ Zalon  - Reply to #213
I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense. As much as I respect the oldschool players (They were the top when I started playing), they simply didn't play the same game as the game thats played today. Saying that Dag wasn't as good, because he peaked at a later stage in the games history - Is like saying that LakermaN was only good, because Thresh wasn't around anymore. But even back then the game had changed alot, from when Thresh was king to when LakermaN won TGI. LakermaN was part of the era where aim, speed, and the ability to do tricks became a major factor in the game, whereas the players from the previous era had relied much more on just tactics.

QuakeWorld have had numerous eras, and different kings for each era. Some have stayed on top throughout most of the game's lifespan, players like ParadokS, reppie, dag and griffin. And I'm sure players like that have/had the talent to be good in any game. Just like LakermaN showed, some people can just pick up a game and instantly be good.

Regarding the players you list as current "stars", only LocKtar and riker is around.

But I would agree, that most top qw players probably wouldn't do as good in QL, but thats more of an age/lack of time thing than it is talent. Also they would be lightyears behind the Quake3 players. If Nabbe had not been moved from the "Participating players" to the "Pending Players" list, for the QL tourney at DreamHack winter, we could have seen what a top qw player could do in QL - with limited practice.
<< Comment #221 @ 17:54 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #217
There is nothing suggesting that Thresh was better than Lakerman, DOOMer or Sniket.

Did you watch 9 vs DR? I was there and watched it live and talked to the players. The first time EU and NA actually faced each other in QW/RQ, DR didn't do too well there (they even lost in their games vs IoP, another much less known medium-skilled Swedish team). Of course, while they were here Thresh also played 1v1s, losing games vs Xenon, DOOMer etc.

It's not like these current QW stars werent active at that point. Riker, mrlame, dagurra and so on played quite a bit yet wasn't even considered mediocre players in comparison to the likes of DOOMer or Lakerman.

I even played in the same team as Riker and mrlame, so I do know them as players more than most yet my opinion still holds true, they, just like me, werent as talented as players like Lakerman. It's simply easier to be amongst the best when the community size is 100 compared to 1 000 000, especially if you have a 10 year game advantage on all the new players.
Edited by Paladia at 17:58 GMT, 29 October 2009
<< Comment #243 @ 11:08 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By rpnew telly  - Reply to #221
You are ignoring the fact that most of the early star players in Quake were established Doom players. Doomer, Ettu, Lakerman, Thresh etc all played Doom multiplayer and came into Quake already holding a lot of FPS experience. It was no surprise they dominated early on. Just like in Q3 where all the early tournaments were won by veteran Q1 and Q2 players.
Edited by telly at 15:39 GMT, 31 October 2009
<< Comment #301 @ 14:11 GMT, 8 March 2010 >>
By US-California Cloud  - Reply to #221
thresh was already deep into playin q2 at the time and had stopped playing q1, not to mention he was an NQ player not a qw player.
<< Comment #218 @ 16:42 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By couple JayDee_  - Reply to #213
No offence dude, but you have no idea what you are talking about. Dag not being top notch when laker was playing doesn't prove anything. Different players have different motivations at different times. Pietro has been out of the scene for a looooong time. The players who have been at the top of the qw scene in recent years are very very skilled and would destroy laker at his previous form. There is no need to make comments when you clearly don't know anything about the subject.
<< Comment #203 @ 19:13 GMT, 28 October 2009 >>
By Germany - Bayern abso 
zyz
<< Comment #206 @ 00:23 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Eyeballers-Anim 0.2 kaZappeR shay  - Reply to #203
zyz sucks.. so did ewa braun.. ehm
<< Comment #208 @ 06:07 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By QUAKEWORLD terrorhead 
Fuck them all. I want to see Griffin and dag comeback.
<< Comment #212 @ 09:37 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Plusme ins 
COMEBACK CZM!
<< Comment #220 @ 17:29 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By Portugal u3a6  - Reply to #212
CZM is awessome!! But i would like to see a Fatal1ty comeback to shut people's mouth that say he isn't good anymore... But it would be funny if he comebacked and get owned xD
<< Comment #225 @ 09:13 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Plusme ins  - Reply to #220
Fatal1ty will comeback rather sooner than later, and yep he will get owned most likely.
<< Comment #226 @ 11:05 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #225
I disagree.

I think if fatal1ty does decide to come back officially he will make sure that he can hold his own among the top players in practice games before doing it.
And I think we can all agree that he is not the type of players who is worse in tournaments than in his practise games.
<< Comment #228 @ 14:49 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Portugal u3a6  - Reply to #226
i'm oficially impressed. Just checked his stats on ql and he is owning on ffa... He said on an interview @ gamescon that he likes to play a lot of ffa to prepair his aim for a tournament, but he might be playing just for fun, I don't know... And you are right, Fatal1ty isn't stupid that's why he reached his status....
<< Comment #215 @ 15:24 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
the guy who knows whom i voted for gets a beer!
<< Comment #219 @ 17:10 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By nihil madbringer 
Crrrrrrrrrrrrrrazyman!

But honestly, i'd love to see them all come back. The more the merrier. :)

Those and many more, especially people who managed to embed themselves in my memory, like Rocketboy, Kane, Paradoks, Gollum, Python, Matrox, Roos, Death, Arrw, Shub, w3st.. the list goes on.
<< Comment #241 @ 02:37 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #219
kane is currently the captain of "Rot-Weiß Oberhausen" in the 2nd Bundesliga. pretty successfull it seems.

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Edited by [mash] at 02:37 GMT, 31 October 2009
<< Comment #248 @ 23:42 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By nihil madbringer  - Reply to #241
Haha, no shit? Well good for him. I'd still like to see him make a comeback, the guy was sick.
<< Comment #249 @ 00:29 GMT, 1 November 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #248
yeah, you could see him with his captains badge if some lazy ass admin would approve the pic.

i still remember his demos from LanArena. :D

e:

apparently he's now worth 700k. http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/spieler/8107/b...rofil.html

up 600k since the last time people talked about it.
Edited by [mash] at 00:35 GMT, 1 November 2009
<< Comment #260 @ 09:23 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #249
can't approve pics at the moment.

I blame funnyb!
<< Comment #280 @ 18:00 GMT, 8 November 2009 >>
By l0wfly funnyb  - Reply to #260
what the fudge
<< Comment #222 @ 21:27 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By United States of America MUNG>esh 
where's cK 2v2 w/czm + fat option?!?
<< Comment #227 @ 11:06 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #222
cause everyone would vote for foxic?
<< Comment #240 @ 02:32 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #227
i'd vote for cox&fox.
<< Comment #242 @ 07:29 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #240
yes you would
<< Comment #245 @ 13:41 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By SC_Zerg [mash]  - Reply to #242
:D
<< Comment #223 @ 22:24 GMT, 29 October 2009 >>
By United States of America davis 
czm for sure
<< Comment #224 @ 02:22 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM 
why no zyz in this vote poll? He was q2 superstar in tdm / duels so was he in Q3 tdm and awesome duel player in PK. He was 4th at world champion ship in PK 2005.
<< Comment #229 @ 15:01 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #224
Duel wise I don't think he has placed top3 in any tournament.

Though there are lots of players that you could argue would have a place in such a poll, Kane is the one that comes closest to mine. However, no matter where you draw the line, the will be cases close to the line that can be argued.

You can also vote on the "Someone else" option for such players though.
<< Comment #237 @ 22:10 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Slovenia CAREEM  - Reply to #229
half of those players didnt placed top3 on the list...... and unmatched did placed top3 in many tournaments, won couple of times too... zyz did won pk too at some tournaments..
<< Comment #239 @ 22:45 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #237
Lets see, you claim half of the players didn't place top3 in a duel tournament. I'll just mention one tournament for those I remember. To be fair, I'll only mention lan tournaments.

czm: 24% (79)
#1 QIL4

Fatal1ty: 18% (60)
#1 XSReality Invitational

toxjq: 17% (56)
#1 Dreamhack winter 2005

uNkind: 12% (41)
#1 WCG 2002

LeXeR: 4.8% (16)
#1 QuakeCon 2002

Thresh: 3.6% (12)
#1 Red Annihilation

LakermaN: 3.3% (11)
#1 Lan Arena 4

Stelam: 3.3% (11)
#1 Lan Arena 5

ZeRo4: 1.8% (6)
#1 QuakeCon 2001

Polosatiy: 1.8% (6)
#1 AMD PG Challenge 2003

PELE: 1.8% (6)
#1 RazerCPL Qualifier

Blue: 1.5% (5)
#1 CPL Asia

socrates: 1.5% (5)
#1 WCG USA 2002

DOOMer: 1.5% (5)
#1 Swedish Quake Championships

elpajuo: 1.2% (4)
#1 Cyber X-Games

Makaveli: 0.9% (3)
#2 XSReality Invitational

Sujoy: 0.9% (3)
#3 Ground Zero

cha0ticz: 0.6% (2)
Can't remember any

Blokey: 0.3% (1)
#1 XSReality AMD Cup (this was a duel tournament but not alone though).

Daler: 0.3% (1)
#1 ION Games
As you can see, your claim that "half those players never placed top3 in a duel tournament", was entirely inaccurate. Almost all of them have won at least one LAN tournament.
Edited by Paladia at 15:59 GMT, 2 November 2009
<< Comment #261 @ 09:25 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #239
pwnz0red
<< Comment #278 @ 06:03 GMT, 7 November 2009 >>
By United States of America sixide  - Reply to #239
Wasn't ION Games an online tournament? The one where elpajuo went AFK on tourney4 with a small (1 frag?) lead, and then Daler took the win at the end?
<< Comment #279 @ 13:07 GMT, 7 November 2009 >>
By Sweden Paladia  - Reply to #278
I think you may be right, though he was #1 at AmeriCup and LayeredX as well (and second at Quakecon and WCG USA 2002).
Edited by Paladia at 13:09 GMT, 7 November 2009
<< Comment #231 @ 15:24 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By redd0t dot anim Apoc 
Python should be in the list. And the spanish guy who won one of the WCG's, whose name I can't remember.

I would still have voted for PELE [PK], hail!
<< Comment #253 @ 18:52 GMT, 1 November 2009 >>
By Austria noctis  - Reply to #231
the spanish guy that got second behind unkind you mean
<< Comment #256 @ 07:49 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By redd0t dot anim Apoc  - Reply to #253
Thats' right, I wondered if a WCG winner could be forgotten.

But Akiles, not heard much of him lately..
<< Comment #235 @ 17:41 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By United States of America cha0ticz 
I'm rocking 2 votes at the moment, one of which was me so I'd like to give a big shout-out to my fan!
<< Comment #238 @ 22:26 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By Beer! becks  - Reply to #235
you can click on show votes to see who it was and thank him personally ;)
<< Comment #264 @ 18:55 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Brazil _agu  - Reply to #235
i'd like to see you playing quake4 on galang, vs socrates.. some us tournament which i woudn't forget hahaha was amazing that game
<< Comment #274 @ 11:38 GMT, 4 November 2009 >>
By USSR Demiurge  - Reply to #235
You can use a plural now :)
<< Comment #298 @ 08:52 GMT, 24 November 2009 >>
By Earth by BooTes StywoO  - Reply to #235
Since you voted for yourself, can we assume your coming back? :)
<< Comment #236 @ 19:53 GMT, 30 October 2009 >>
By France Co1nCo1n 
SOMBRA ! lol
<< Comment #244 @ 13:02 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Portugal gut 
phyton, prozac and mist
<< Comment #246 @ 14:13 GMT, 31 October 2009 >>
By Copyright by Jazka Jazka 
I voted stelam because i remember him firstly as being a great TDM player. Same for toxjq. And same for prozac. Same for makaveli because he is my first demo watched, a tdm demo on DM6 before the pro version, he was camping at RA and looking up.

And so on, i would like to see all those players come back for some great TDM with a lot of teams fighting to be n°1.
<< Comment #251 @ 09:28 GMT, 1 November 2009 >>
The Genie says, "you have three wishes". Aladdin tells the Genie his first wish, "I wish for unlimited wishes.". Robin Williams tells Aladdin, "Well that kind of defeats the purpose of only having three wishes, but what can I do? Rules is rules.".

I always liked CZM, Toxic and Lexer myself. If I had my way, they would all come back.
<< Comment #252 @ 15:44 GMT, 1 November 2009 >>
By 2KBlack Yellack 
Z4 with a ball mouse! \o/
<< Comment #255 @ 06:53 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By New Zealand roffo 
CZM for sure. The guy built a fucking railgun
<< Comment #259 @ 08:28 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Sweden blaze 
needs more rat!
anyway voted fat.
<< Comment #263 @ 18:53 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Brazil _agu 
i voted on fatal1ty but i rather like to see fist1 back on track :)
<< Comment #265 @ 21:43 GMT, 2 November 2009 >>
By Dird's Xmas tree ;o Dird 
GitzZz
<< Comment #271 @ 23:12 GMT, 3 November 2009 >>
Outside of the usual suspects I would like to see (not just from Q3):

Polos, Blokey, Lakerman, Aim, Q50, Slinger & Stelam (surely they're a double team super combo?), Panicore, Prozac, Appleseed, IF22 anyone? and just cos I love him, Timber.
<< Comment #272 @ 11:24 GMT, 4 November 2009 >>
By clawo ini  - Reply to #271
Q50 is playing QL
<< Comment #276 @ 20:03 GMT, 5 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #284 @ 15:51 GMT, 12 November 2009 >>
By Germany butchji  - Reply to #271
Appleseed is playing QL!
<< Comment #285 @ 19:52 GMT, 12 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #270 @ 23:06 GMT, 3 November 2009 >>
shub_nigga played some tdm's with cooller, frozen etc.
SPRAY
<< Comment #269 @ 17:59 GMT, 3 November 2009 >>
By clawo ini 
Would be cool to see Enemy play again too.
<< Comment #273 @ 11:37 GMT, 4 November 2009 >>
By USSR Demiurge 
Probably enjoy seeing LeXeR play by far the most, would be really awesome if he played again.
<< Comment #275 @ 12:22 GMT, 4 November 2009 >>
By claw0 pizz 
1. niceguy/Greenbastard
2. pezouille
3. pizzette
<< Comment #281 @ 12:02 GMT, 10 November 2009 >>
By Lithuania yo_O 
uNkind, LeXeR, b100.Death, cGu'Nova and many more ;)
<< Comment #282 @ 12:52 GMT, 10 November 2009 >>
By Nuke Explosion raithza 
I'd like to see Yuka make another comeback. This time as fatal1ty. imagine the DRAMA!

also, rat.
<< Comment #283 @ 16:52 GMT, 10 November 2009 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates 
oldschoolers! :P
<< Comment #286 @ 15:14 GMT, 13 November 2009 >>
By New Zealand GrotesK 
Blue to make a comeback with T4~
czm would also be great.
<< Comment #287 @ 22:20 GMT, 13 November 2009 >>
By United Kingdom Disrepute 
I would like to see yuka back (as one of the above names)
<< Comment #322 @ 10:23 BST, 28 May 2012 >>
By Moldova quake is potat  - Reply to #287
'ello 'ello 'ello, whats all this then
<< Comment #323 @ 15:59 BST, 28 May 2012 >>
By United Kingdom Disrepute  - Reply to #322
stalker!
<< Comment #288 @ 18:15 GMT, 14 November 2009 >>
By ET:QW Shrike 
Wombat !
<< Comment #291 @ 01:14 GMT, 16 November 2009 >>
By France Co1nCo1n 
czm: 22%

+ hub for QL
<< Comment #292 @ 17:01 GMT, 16 November 2009 >>
By France Shardik 
Thresh for sure !

and Hub, Qtv, mvd for QL yep :)
Edited by Shardik at 17:02 GMT, 16 November 2009
<< Comment #293 @ 01:06 GMT, 17 November 2009 >>
czm for sure. the best player ever to grace the quake community with his presence imho.
really wish he would make another comeback in QL. :)
<< Comment #294 @ 11:29 GMT, 19 November 2009 >>
By \0/ fragerr 
NEED NEW POLL: WHO GONNA WIN DHW KKTHXBYE
<< Comment #295 @ 13:22 GMT, 20 November 2009 >>
By QuakeLive JDMYO 
Paul Nelson! lets have one last duel tourney off you?! Come on dude. You can live upto Rapha, Cypher and Cooller. No one else can but CZM can :)
Someone make Hub for QL and bring CZM back! :)
Shit! - I bet Rapha would own on hub... :o
<< Comment #296 @ 14:07 GMT, 20 November 2009 >>
<< Comment #299 @ 16:37 GMT, 28 November 2009 >>
By Netherlands Black2lip 
Blue or LakermaN two of my favorite quake players all time.
<< Comment #310 @ 20:09 BST, 7 July 2010 >>
By Estonia dunZ 
toxjq : )
<< Comment #311 @ 10:48 BST, 28 July 2010 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates  - Reply to #310
Done.
<< Comment #312 @ 11:00 BST, 28 July 2010 >>
By Denmark amOKchen  - Reply to #311
Then it could only get better if LakermaN stopped being a poker millionaire and started quake again!
<< Comment #313 @ 11:04 BST, 28 July 2010 >>
By Austria - Niederosterreich bates  - Reply to #312
If he thinks that this is the right way. Don't think he'll replace his millions from poker with a dirty old railgun :P
Edited by nails at 11:04 BST, 28 July 2010
<< Comment #315 @ 18:48 BST, 2 September 2010 >>
By US-Arizona klout 
Fatal1ty, fox and czm.
<< Comment #316 @ 17:35 BST, 29 September 2010 >>
By USSR Lowbird 
need more lexer votes tbfh. or else your not enlightened.
<< Comment #319 @ 19:45 BST, 1 October 2010 >>
By Germany - Freistaat Sachsen sic4rius 
Fatal1ty ofc.

But I highly doubt that he would perform a comeback in a broken game and a watered down version of one of his favourite games, which lacks the ability to spawn LAN servers. By now he already must have realised that there's no future for a game as incomplete and undeveloped like QL.

And what else is there for people wanting fast gameplay and compete in 1on1 tourneys? Right, nothink!
<< Comment #321 @ 23:30 BST, 27 May 2012 >>
By United States of America DizzyMage 
what was the last tournament doomer competed in?
<< Comment #324 @ 20:56 BST, 1 July 2013 >>
srs.cypher
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k1llsen
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