im gonna make my own wmoadder and shit on ur da2013, mate. ;d

btw. imba dead right mouse click after 2 months, see you later ^^

yes, DA sensor is fkin good.

Now u need to buy logitech g502 lolz

why would you need wmoadder when there is DA 2K13 ? :ppp

hmmm yeah but i have the feeling that the buttons will last at least 1.5 years ;p considering the build quality

yes, DA sensor is GODLIKE ;p

coz weight and shape of DA isn't perfect for me. I got DA 3G too.

Now im fine or near perfect with g100s.

BUY ALL MICE IN THE UNIVERSE HEARTZLESS1!!!

^yeah the g502 is tempting, but ain't got no more money :p

g502 is tempting? wtf is wrong with alot of you guys?
the improvement you get from sensor quality, don't even come close to outwheigh the extra 20g more, from what would be "acceptable" for such shaped mouse.

this

Sup.

ye, you are a special case, i know. :D

<3

I do agree though that it should have been lighter and had the weights to add to reach it's current base weight.

But sensor feels nice?

Apparently NVC got one too, watching him play I feel like nothing is really "wrong" with the sensor

http://www.twitch.tv/dignitasnvc/b/531123016

Not tried it yet, it's still not listed on amazon UK.

OK, ordered one, should have it soon.

yes g502 weight sux.

but heartless is buying all mice so whats the problem? :D

would like to try the Zowie EC CL :p

and also steelseries rival

CATCH THEM ALL :D

Enjoy buying a new one every year, if it can last that long. Anyone saying that Razer is not a shit company is wrong.

MY 3G and 3.5G are still looking like new, they still look fresh, 3.5G is 3/4 years old, 3G older of course. And they cost me 0€ each since they were present.

im sure they are dirty as fuck.

try to a bit wash it and u will see it :D

Well yes they do get dirty fast, specially because of my sweaty hands! So I have to clean them often, toothpick/vacuum cleaner/wipes combo xD

That's cool. I have never had a Razer product last more than a couple of years, nor have any of my friends or acquaintances. In fact, my DeathAdders tend to last less than six months before a defect becomes apparent when they aren't DOA. Some get lucky. Some don't. Razer is a shit company and that's a fact.

I don't think I'm lucky, like me I have friends and acquaintances too who never had issues with their products ;) Too bad you and your friends had such experience when it comes to Razer products!

i have not managed to break a deathadder - 3g, 3.5g, 2013 - all are still in perfect condition.

My 4 year old DA is doing just fine. Same goes for the 3 year old Abyssus that I use at work every single day.

I currently use a DA 2013 for some reason and it's far from a perfect mouse. To say the build quality is excellent is just hilarious. Try pushing down on the top of it with any amount of pressure and you'll hear and feel it want to shatter. Every Razer product I've ever bought is just as bad.

No, it's not a terrible mouse. It's definitely one of the better ones, but that's just because most mice out there are awful. The shape of it is nice, too. I bought mine for like $40, and if you can get it for that cheap, then go for it; but I think the usual price is like $70, and it is not nearly worth that much.

It seems like every few months you make a thread about how you're on the bandwagon of some other mouse you just bought. Do these threads follow some Thunderstruck game where you shot 40% LG with your new mouse? They're just mice, man. You can have a good game with any decent mouse.

Not his lawyer here, but I played with him a little bit lately, he actually didn't get high accuracy a lot and own everyone (actually it's the opposite haha :D), I think it's just how the mouse feels in his hand that made him always say such things.

Well then I guess in Europe there is some kind of audience out there for hearing about what mouse this person uses.

Who knows? Never heard or seen anything like that personally. I'm just one of his buddies, just a coincidence, probably a few other people only know about it, I don't know :).

And what's wrong with the mamba or imperator(3G)? I owned mamba and I play with imperator right now and both are perfectly capable mouses. Mamba is little heavy tho, but battery lasts, the sensor is good and the added weight let you play higher sens as it's stable. Imperator is good shape, light, good sensor, so what's that bad in it?

I still think you aimed best with abyssus in 2010 or something. Switching mice might give you a slight increase in aim for a short while till you're completely adjusted to it, then you will fall back to your regular aiming/dodging patterns, since you don't really have to lay extra focus on aiming due to muscle memory.

Best thing to do is to just stick with 1 mouse you feel comfortable with and keep playing with it. That way you lay more emphasis on your ingame patterns and technique other than external factors, which have way higher advantages than a short increase in accuracy due to adjusting.

Also, it's a waste of money really.

Just my two cents.

Edit: To further comfirm the stuff I've written above. When I used to play actively, I would sometimes play you, and you would beat me the first couple of rounds/games we played, but afterwards you start losing, and backing away. This is because you keep doing the same dodging patterns and movement over and over again. I'm not saying you're bad, since your raw aim is in the top-tier, but you lay too much emphasis on it and mildly disregard most of the other aspects that give you an upper hand in combat skill. Work on your dodge ,movement and rockets as hard as you work on LG aim and you'll be #1 thunderstruck world in no time, since you play it 24/7.

I still think you aimed best with abyssus in 2010 or something. Switching mice might give you a slight increase in aim for a short while till you're completely adjusted to it, then you will fall back to your regular aiming/dodging patterns, since you don't really have to lay extra focus on aiming due to muscle memory.

Best thing to do is to just stick with 1 mouse you feel comfortable with and keep playing with it. That way you lay more emphasis on your ingame patterns and technique other than external factors, which have way higher advantages than a short increase in accuracy due to adjusting.

I agree with you 100% ;). That's why starting from now on i won't switch mouse anymore, i'll stick with the DA 2k13 for ever :)

To further comfirm the stuff I've written above. When I used to play actively, I would sometimes play you, and you would beat me the first couple of rounds/games we played, but afterwards you start losing, and backing away.

Yap i'm backing because your rockets are too good compared to mine. I'm forced to play more tactical/lame, that's why i'm backing =).
I have to work on my rockets... or try to get an even better shaft :)

This is because you keep doing the same dodging patterns and movement over and over again.

Yap i have to work on this aswell. My playstyle isn't hard to analyse and when you play me for more than 10 games then you get used to my movements etc...

I'm not saying you're bad, since your raw aim is in the top-tier

I disagree with you :D. My raw aim isn't that good compared to people like szr, jwzr, ph, zsx and so on... ;)

since you play it 24/7

Nop :p, actually these days i'm not playing regularly and when i play i do max a 3hours session. Look at my matches history @ quakelive and you'll see that i'm not playing a lot compared to some people.
I used to play way more and regularly some years ago. But ATM i'm quite busy with real life and sometimes i'm too lazy to play, i prefer to sleep and relax :D

How many "omfg best mouse E V E R" have you had?

actually it's :

DA 2K13 > Krait 2k13 = zowie FK > abyssus (still a very good mouse tho)

:)