Let's dream together!

If they're picking two games from each category, I'd say that CS1.6 and QuakeLive are probably the most probable options.

You'd think COD but that's two team-games in the lineup and CS1.6 is just a ton more popular competitively. WCG doesn't have an FPS duel/deathmatch title so QuakeLive fits the bill

No they are not.

No it does not.


This is WCG we are talking about - just fucking pay up, id.

CS1.6 is still extremely popular competitively. I'd be hard to ignore it. I didn't say they were picking two games, but if I think about it, the previous WCG's had 2 fps titles - last one was CS1.6 and Crossfire iirc and Crossfire is basically just a foreign CS1.6. This is also when COD4 and MW2 was already around, so they had the option to add that but chose to basically go with a copy of CS1.6

I obviously wasn't talking about cs. Crossfire isn't just a copy of cs if it's the game I'm thinking about, it's the Asian version of it that's popular there, and WCG's all about Korea. Or was it special force?

Yeah it's the Asian version of it, but CS1.6 is still hugely popular in Asia as well, so that's a bit meh :P

is quake live more popular than cod7 (the fastest selling game in history, including pc and consoles), goldeneye for the wii (cmon) and halo reach (probably the most played online game as of now)?

people tend to forget quake live's playerbase is at most 25k

And these player bases have never heard of WCG and don't really give a shit about competitive gaming.

Not sure on the numbers, but I think CS1.6 has the most people playing it at present. COD7 I could easily see if they were doing it as a console title. Dunno how the PC holds up but I doubt so considering all I hear about patches and cfg fixes.

this poll obviously will not determine the winner. It's just a reference to wcg, in which sponsorship (paying to be there. Check carom3d and LoL) and total player base (in the end spectators, both online and at the event) matter the most.

fastest selling in history was cod4, doubt cod7 beat that :o

I googled it before just to be sure (actually it was the edit to that post). It is

Dude, those cooller quotes are heart warming. Nothing less.

Voted for
Sc2 and sc1
sf4 and tekken 6
QL and even cs, because the others are THAT horrible
But WCG's still a huge pile of crap.

If you really hate CS so much then you could set to the 'other' option and put in Team Fortress 2 I guess :P

Just as dumbed down and with a less hardcore community (CS is mostly only better than all those teamgames because it has more years behind it's back IMO) too, but I guess you're one of the people to disagree on CS now aren't you. Kind of makes me think if you'd have any real arguments for it seeing as you always act like people are trolling if they somebody shitS on cs =D

You can vote for as few games as you like, it doesn't force you to fill in the whole form :)

I know but more FPS = less ghey games

If they put only 2 titles
CS will be there, it's a fact.
So imho a cs and ql vote is a double vote for ql, because u don't give free anti-ql votes, like if voting ql and halo...

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Voted, would be a suprised to see them announce quakelive as a game though, somehow i feel like Black Ops will be at WCG with 1.6

True but MW1 and MW2 were around when the last WCGs were going and they didn't pick them up... meh

mw2 was largely ignored because there were no dedicated servers, I think black ops has them, but I don't know what the cod community is doing.

voted for the last 4-5 years but as usual they will chose random mobile games before quake

you guys do know that you are not obliged to vote for the 2nd game? :)

I chose not to even vote for MMORPG, but that doesn't mean that given the option between COD:BO and HelloKittyOnline, I'd rather vote for a 2nd FPS I didn't like then anything else

SF4 - mvc3
ql - crysis 2
mario kart wii - dirt2
sc - sc2
nba jam - nba 2k11
aion assault - vindictus
dj hero 2 - dance central

some of the picks random cba

cmon fellas we need more azn mobile games.

I kid, vote quake.

also lol @ goldeneye. Is Nintendo kitting them a bunch of 64s, and is oddjob going to be banned?

Goodtimes. Think everyone played as Oddjob just for the midget factor. Not that it made a huge difference since it was autoaim lmao

If Oddjob got in close with Slappers you couldn't hit him unless you manually aimed down.

Yep.

Fucking yellow arrow up.

go die WCG w/o quake

die?!?!?! so fenqing :P

Okay I voted anyways,

Quake, CS
FIFA 11, NBA 2k11
Warhammer 40k, SCII
SSFIV, Tekken6
...

quakelive beta ftw

wcg grand final stage, final match, 4th minute....and the game crashes.

epic.

It's not like other games in those lists are invulnerable. SC2 is easily gonna make the lineup but that crashes more then Dancia Patrick

lets not vote for quakelive, tired of this fckn game getting fckd up!

besides, goldeneye is clearly better ;p

UFC
QL
NFS
SC2
Skate 3
remove the last 2 categories

i voted QL & SC2

Voted for Quake Live and wrote in BRINK for FPS, SC2 and LoL for RTS, SSF4 and Tekken 6 for Fighters.

voted for ql, don't care about fighting and other games.

Go goldeneye! \o/

like qlive will be picked even if it won the vote...

I think games that are in beta stages or not released are not allowed to be put in the lineup for WCG, which is why SC2 wasn't put in the last WCG because although it was available, it was in beta.

QuakeLive was never put in because it was in beta (for a fucking long time at that)

no i mean wcg has no intention whatsoever to put in any quake no matter what, just my opinion.

Thanks for your possitive input, much appreciated.

I know it has big chances of being picked up, a kitten told me so, telepathically ofc.

I think the chances of a game where players have to telepathically communicate with a kitten are better.

thanks dude, will try harder next time.

my pleasure

OMFG

FUCKING DJ HERO!!

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Fata1lity says to revent(or other id) at ztn on Qcon2001 'don't play cs,quake3 is better',and after years later,He was playing cs..:D

voted for ql, sc2, ssf and gran turismo 5

didnt vote for ql, at this state this game doesnt deserves to be at WCG

ql, cs, sc2, hon, tmnf, ssf4

WCG is a joke of a tournament but if we can get QL in there then that would be nice, although I doubt that will happen.

wtf?!? another double-rainbow-omg

No wonder the Korean bought WCG afterwards...

I just hope that if they pick ql up, it won't be an invitational tournament :E

Can't remember how it worked, but basically country pays for each slot they want in WCG which is fought out in qualifiers.

So for example, Sweden wants three CS1.6 enties. They hold a WCG-Sweden Qualifier where the top3 get through to the Grand Finals along with other nations.

Can be a bit problematic if one 'country' doesn't want to shell out for more then one entrant. Sweden usually puts out but nations like Russia wouldn't so much



Ofc, I could be talking absolute bollocks, but at least that's how I thought it worked

It's basically like that. Every local partner chooses which games he wants to hold a qualifier for and can pick a maximum of two players/teams for each of them to send to the grand finals.

They pay a fee for each player that covers hotel, food, etc (last year it was 1000 euro iirc).

Any way, organising a QL qualifier on LAN will be a pain in the ass, much more than a SC2 one, and that's reason enough not to pick it.

What a retard system

How would you make it better?

It's the best way to do it imho.

Ye the lack of LAN servers will be the main cause of ql not being picked :(

isn't that eswc system aswell?
ok not the direct buy of spots but sounds alike

I don't know about the last ESWC, but in previous years it was a similar system except that local partners also had to pay a license fee of around 10.000 euro to be able to hold a qualifier.

QL, SCII and CS are worthy.

I voted Quake Live, StarCraft II and StarCraft: Brood War

GO QUAKELIVE!

COD might be a famous series but Black Ops' player base should be talked about once the buggy MP is patched up by Trey Arch, let alone roll it out for a tournament with prize money. They are better off using COD4 Promod. Medal of Honor' MP is bollocks.

I say 1.6 and QL. 1.6 has a good number of active professional teams/players along with QL. If not QL (zillionth LAN excuse), COD4 should replace it. Apart from that SC2 sounds good.

QL, CS and SC2. The rest can burn.

if QL didn't make it this year, why would it be selected for 2011?
CS gets autospot because of "tradition". Black Ops takes the second through sheer numbers alone, real talk.

the fighting selection will be crap as well. Tekken gets autospot because Korea is good in it (snore)
..and since Capcom frowns at "esports" organizations (for good reasons), they'll have to choose one of those wrestling/MMA abominations instead of Super SF4. good luck with that :D

I'm pretty sure that Quake Live will be selected this year. Be optimistic. :)

Amen!

what issue does capcom have with esports events or organisers?

they would pick up SF4 just because it's popular now and take advantage, when in the last 10 years they haven't contributed anything to the competitive fighting game community who struggled, survived and grew entirely on its own.

also their events would cannibalize the tight schedule of the community tournament circuit, ran and attended by dedicated people (some of them held for well over 10 years). if any of these grass roots tournament organizers are hurt and disband, when the SF4 wave of popularity washes out and WCG/MLG drops the game, it will be very hard to bounce back to how things were (the Quake scene might be a relevant example).

lastly, the fighting game community is very colourful, rowdy and genuine (coming from the arcade culture), it doesn't need unnecessary censorship and interference from corporate shills.

Capcom doesn't have an official stance on this, but they have people in key positions who were once community members and know that their success has nothing to do with mainstream "esports" businesses.

but who knows this time around, maybe they will feel the fighting games ecosystem is well established by now (with major events drawing very impressive numbers: Evo 2009 - capped at 1024 players, Evo 2010 - 1700+ players, the rest average around ~300 players) and they will let them use it...

SSFIV is less popular than many other FTG in Japan already.

yeah, of course.. Japan is the Mecca of fighting games, also SSF4 is not out in arcades yet (release date is this december)
however, the western scene always gravitated around Capcom games which had the fiercest competition.

The most popular FTG in Japan is Guilty Gear series for many years... Not well receied by europe/US market though...

actually the most popular is Tekken6 (almost every month on #1 according to arcade operators in the last 1-2 years), but yeah Guilty Gear is up there

http://www.versuscity.net/2010/04/19/arcadia-...p-10-misc/

hmmm. sorry I should have made it more clear, I was talking about 2D FTG :P
3D FTG market is basically only VR and Tekken...

X didnt happened last year, so it wont happen this year. Thats logic is flawed. Not to mention QL was in Beta state.

i guess hope dies last :)

QL couldn't be selected for this year because it was not released.
Only now that it's out of beta, WCG can consider it as a valid game for their tournaments.

yeah, you may be right.. but wasn't there like Quake3 or Quake4 in the shortlist?

UFC Undisputed is a fun game! Totally random at times, tho. Not at all suitable for competition.

like ~8 years ago we used to play some UFC game on playstation in a local cafe. no matter how much we tried to learn stuff, noone had a chance vs a girl who was just slamming all the buttons at once, which resulted in eternal submissions, armbars, ko's and shit we didn't even know existed.

Hahaha, think I've seen videos of that on youtube just recently.


Well, UFC Undisputed is not random like that, but it obviously has the One-Punch-KO possibility.
Which makes it completely unsuitable for eSports.

didnt Id have some conflict with Samsung/WCG/whatever, after which there was no more quake? why would they put it again if it was that serious?

don't vote for a 2nd fps game, more chance of quake not being included then!

Quake is so fucking awesome, goddamn shame about WCG. Fucking using pool simulators instead of quake? THE FUCK MAN? JUST PLAY FUCKING POOL ON TABLES N SHIT, FUCKING FAGGOTS, SHIT MAKES NO SENSE, NO FUCKING SENSE.

I mean shit like fifa and NHL games need 20 people to play and a rink n shit, but pool? 2 guys and some balls, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Hahaha, made me laugh

don't mean to hurt u, but ...
quake has no chance against halo: reach :P

my prediction:


Fighting
EA Sports MMA
WWE SmackDown vs Raw 2011

First-person shooting
Goldeneye 007
Halo Reach

Racing
DiRT 2
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit

RTS & MOBA
Heroes of Newerth
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War 2 Retribution

Sports
Carom3D
FIFA Soccer 11

MMORPG
Aion Assault on Balaurea
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm

Casual & Music
Dance Central
Wii Sports Resort

shitty games ftw (ok, dirt2 is great, but not competitive because of the newbee invasion :> )

You can be 100% sure that SSF4 will be in

wanna bet otherwise? should be a fixture on it :D

I'd love one!

wouldn't be so sure, capcom is probably not going to hand over a suitcase full of $$$ to the wcg officials :>

like SEGA in the past for Virtua Fighter :D

lol@how crytec put money on the wcg (is this thing still alive ?) table

Goldeneye 007!

Royalties for Jamerio \o/

I'd rather cut my dick than vote for any game listed in the fps category.