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ESL-TV QL inv - Playday #3 (138 comments)

( Major News: QL)

Posted by xou @ 10:13 CDT, 27 July 2009 - iMsg

Event: ESL-TV QL Inv

update: The VoD is now available on ESL-TV. Also the ztn demo of fox against draven is available.

Update 2: The winners of the 3 competitions are now known.

Winners

This evening the fourth show of the ESL-TV QL Invitational sponsored by Razer will feature the Playday #3 matches.

LLL*fox,

SK|bodzo,

[R]draven and

dignitas/HELL will try their best to win this new Playday for a slot in the Finals and 100�.

It's no wonder the show will once again start at 12:00 CDT and be hosted by

2GD and

Joe.

Playday #3 results

Playday #3 Razer competitions

Global schedule

Map pool

Show streaming: ESL-TV, Alternative host - Premium is only available on ESL-TV's website.
ESL-TV - Razer -

#esl-tv.ql - Coverage: fnatic & fragster (DE)

Edited by xou at 12:57 CDT, 28 July 2009 - 55936 Hits

21%

<< Comment #1 @ 10:17 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

rexobb

bodzo > draven
fox > HELL
fox > bodzo

<< Comment #3 @ 11:00 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

Nukm - Reply to #1

thats correct

<< Comment #7 @ 11:42 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

n1ghty - Reply to #1

pretty much what will happen.

<< Comment #21 @ 06:32 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

mefajpE^ - Reply to #1

agreed

<< Comment #43 @ 12:42 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

SenT!neL - Reply to #1

no

<< Comment #2 @ 10:21 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

abso

fox pwnz them all

<< Comment #4 @ 11:18 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

looking forward to fox vs bodzo!

<< Comment #5 @ 11:23 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

juM8o

oh, these shows are such a great thing to have, I really enjoy watching them. Hope they will do this kind of stuff even after ESL invitationals :p

<< Comment #6 @ 11:40 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

i love this!

<< Comment #8 @ 11:50 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

ArchaiK

Mmm tasty line up this playday. I hope we will see a second season of this tournament, it's a great tournament!
Anyway, I hope fox takes this.

<< Comment #9 @ 11:57 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

btl

bodzo will take this over fox in the final

<< Comment #10 @ 12:01 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

neb - Reply to #9

agreed

<< Comment #39 @ 12:39 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

terrorhead - Reply to #9

hah whatever dude.

<< Comment #11 @ 12:19 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

brumu

by beating spartie i think bodzo has proven he is capable of taking on the very best. Spartie has beaten cypher a few times, and bodzo has beaten spartie.. therefor bodzo has a chance to beat fox too

<< Comment #12 @ 12:40 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

Bluder - Reply to #11

stop scaring me, ofc fox will win :<

<< Comment #13 @ 17:42 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

draven-

i just wanna say, motherboard is broken i thought my it was my powersuply ill try to make it on mondays earlier, else ill play on a other pc

<< Comment #15 @ 19:19 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

wch - Reply to #13

pre-excuse?

<< Comment #24 @ 08:37 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #15

sounds like it lol

<< Comment #16 @ 19:53 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #13

Will be waiting for some news from you in the afternoon!

<< Comment #14 @ 18:38 CDT, 26 July 2009 >>

By

bsk

Keep up the awesome work, ESL. This is the best esports broadcast ever.

<< Comment #17 @ 00:12 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

sk!a - Reply to #14

Indeed

<< Comment #18 @ 02:24 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

GUArd - Reply to #14

yeah love 2gd and other guy casting! :) ps. who is other guy?

<< Comment #19 @ 02:33 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

juM8o - Reply to #18

Joe

<< Comment #113 @ 05:34 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

swine - Reply to #18

Joe Miller. was part of fnatic with Jay in the past

<< Comment #114 @ 05:44 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

sonic - Reply to #113

and g?

<< Comment #115 @ 06:50 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Joe - Reply to #114

unit?

<< Comment #116 @ 06:59 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

sonic - Reply to #115

DEATH RIZOOOOOOOOOOO

<< Comment #25 @ 08:38 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

terrorhead - Reply to #14

yes it is

<< Comment #26 @ 10:16 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

Gladius - Reply to #14

agreed actually

<< Comment #20 @ 03:25 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

fjorgyn

GO FOX!

<< Comment #22 @ 06:32 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

mefajpE^

yeah fox in action, sweet!

<< Comment #23 @ 07:35 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

bodzo > *

<< Comment #48 @ 12:46 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

KitesAreFun - Reply to #23

Uhhh ;)

<< Comment #27 @ 10:16 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

Gladius

would be nice to see bodzo beat fox!

<< Comment #28 @ 10:41 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

xou

I have no idea if the razer questions/prizes will be different this time, since I couldn't get any info about that I just posted the last ones.

<< Comment #29 @ 10:41 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

klaovhwN

these start just in time for my lunch =)

<< Comment #30 @ 11:00 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

2GD

hey guys, i haven't announced winners from last week. prize comp is still the same. do apologize been rather busy. will announce after show

<< Comment #78 @ 15:15 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

light - Reply to #30

Compliments to you, me and a guy from work now have ESL nights twice a week, even though he doesn't play the game(he did play Q3 some years ago though). :)
The sense of humour you guys bring and the expert commentary is really worth noting. Probably the best coverage of any tournament ever. The games today was not so exciting but you did nice, its such a professionally executed show i must say if you compare it to pretty much anything else. Keep it up it!

<< Comment #31 @ 11:13 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

sorry , error time.

Edited by ConQueror at 11:35 CDT, 27 July 2009

<< Comment #32 @ 11:14 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

xou - Reply to #31

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1726233#pid1726233

I guess I just changed Playday #1 to #2 but then couldn't find the winners of #2 :p

Edited by xou at 11:17 CDT, 27 July 2009

<< Comment #33 @ 11:30 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

Rondrian - Reply to #31

as james said playday #2 winners are not announced yet, stay tuned! :)

<< Comment #34 @ 11:41 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

12:00 - 12:13 ... sorry

<< Comment #35 @ 11:41 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

TUMULT

hm

Edited by freak!? at 11:42 CDT, 27 July 2009

<< Comment #36 @ 12:04 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

Nukm

its live \o/

<< Comment #37 @ 12:29 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

juM8o

gotta take some words back about draven, he has improved a bit from the last time seen him playing..

[edit] bodzo - draven match also shows perfectly how badly weapons are balanced, even with 50% rail like draven you can completely dominate game only by overusing rail.. they should really limit rail ammo to 5

Edited by juM8o at 12:44 CDT, 27 July 2009

<< Comment #44 @ 12:43 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

calleking - Reply to #37

oh

<< Comment #46 @ 12:44 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

terrorhead - Reply to #37

Then you have ppl whining about rl being OP. I guess balance is fine. Every weapon can be OP

Edited by terrorhead at 12:45 CDT, 27 July 2009

<< Comment #54 @ 13:05 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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juM8o - Reply to #46

every but lg, pg, gl or mg

<< Comment #66 @ 13:57 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #37

as far as i can see almost all weapons are being used to kill whit instead of CPMA LG>all

<< Comment #71 @ 14:03 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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juM8o - Reply to #66

i didnt say that all weapons werent used but every battle just ended up for draven because of the rail. It just really shows up how big advantage rail is, its above any other weapon atm imo. If they would limit ammo to 5 with 3 ammo within railgun and 2 with slugs, it maybe would play better.. and i am not sure if you are relating to vq3 or cpm, but in vq3 lg is overpowered i agree. In cpm whole weapon balance is quite right.

<< Comment #38 @ 12:38 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

bodzo overrated?

<< Comment #61 @ 13:46 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

Aaron - Reply to #38

yes

now draven

<< Comment #40 @ 12:40 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

ez rpe

no polish rage tho good to see.

<< Comment #41 @ 12:41 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

supra`

wow bodzo is a fucking joke

<< Comment #42 @ 12:41 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

Carsomyr

I really hate watching games through streams.

<< Comment #45 @ 12:43 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #42

I know, can't see shit :(

<< Comment #51 @ 12:51 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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fazz - Reply to #45

Buy premium! Looks great.

<< Comment #53 @ 13:04 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #51

I would be willing to pay per game, but I'm not gonna pay for premium when I don't plan to watch a lot of games.

<< Comment #55 @ 13:06 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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fazz - Reply to #53

It's 3$.

<< Comment #57 @ 13:11 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #55

�3 for a month.

<< Comment #62 @ 13:49 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #57

so? that's the equivalent of 1 fucking beer, in many countries even less than that :D

<< Comment #68 @ 13:59 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #62

Here its 1� and u'll get a free tapita :D

<< Comment #69 @ 13:59 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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fazz - Reply to #62

Looks like he's from Norway, where a beer costs ~6� at a bar. ^^

<< Comment #75 @ 14:21 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #69

contrary to sweden where it's like 50-70sek too :p

<< Comment #67 @ 13:57 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #57

is that alot of money for you? :>

<< Comment #76 @ 14:34 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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aiken - Reply to #67

It depends from country you live in. In Poland you can buy about 4 beers for 3�. Minimum salaries are 233� per month it's not so much in comparison to 1217� in France and probably more in Sweden. In worst situation are Russians where minimum wage is around 23�.

How much do you earn per month?

More numbers here:
http://www.finfacts.com/Private/isl/PayinEurope.htm

<< Comment #84 @ 17:41 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #76

yeah well if u only make 23� u probably can't afford a computer or a connection so...

95% of the ppl here would probably afford 3� but just think that everything should be free on teh intranet.
i have enjoyed the shows and think that 3� is nothing to whine about.

<< Comment #90 @ 18:42 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

vicek - Reply to #84

it's like with RapidShare
instead of paying 4E for premium people prefer to try 1251123 ways of avoiding limits

<< Comment #94 @ 19:25 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #90

good for you.

<< Comment #119 @ 08:12 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #90

i understand this quakelive tourney will end soon, but there's still wow wednesdays which are hilarious and i'm sure more quake is to come. For 3 euros it's a bargain to watch these games in HQ :o) plus you get to see jays ugly big face up close! (joking)

<< Comment #137 @ 17:16 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #119

at what time this show comes man?

<< Comment #108 @ 03:33 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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aiken - Reply to #84

23� is extreme example, but you don't get this price is not the same for different countries. This 3� is nothing for you, but for someone from Russia can be much and he might like to spent it in another way no matter how he enjoyed the show.

Look at the websites containing game's cracks. Most of this cracks are made by guys from the east. Why do they do that? Of course because most of the people do not earn enough money to buy each game in the shop. Even if they could they have other expenses. Entertainment is thing you don't really need to live, but life without it is worth nothing. I think that's why most people want it for free.

<< Comment #135 @ 11:47 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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Bluder - Reply to #108

ya i got your point, some live in poor countries but still most of the ppl here are just spoilt.

<< Comment #56 @ 13:10 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #45

What are they using picmip for anyway? The video quality looks even worse that way.

<< Comment #63 @ 13:51 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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juM8o - Reply to #56

3 i think

<< Comment #81 @ 16:42 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #56

Not what I asked but ok.

<< Comment #107 @ 02:30 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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juM8o - Reply to #81

why u didnt then ask why? :(( or what for

<< Comment #110 @ 04:38 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #107

"What are they using picmip for anyway?"

.....

<< Comment #111 @ 04:56 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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juM8o - Reply to #110

oh didnt notice :(((

<< Comment #120 @ 08:13 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #110

makes quakelive pretty

<< Comment #131 @ 10:21 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #120

It looks like crap.

<< Comment #126 @ 09:15 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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btl - Reply to #110

Just imagine creating two pictures in paint. One with 300 different colors and the other one with 5. Now compress both into the equivalent to the ESL stream fps size and compare the picture quality. It takes less space to describe the picture with only 5 colors than to describe the one with 300. Therefore the picture will look sharper and better with only 5 colors used because the bandwidth we're getting from ESL is limited

Edited by btl at 09:26 CDT, 28 July 2009

<< Comment #130 @ 10:21 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #126

And they hope we'll pay for that? Hah.

<< Comment #47 @ 12:45 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

sk!a

wow nice draven! bodzo played well too, but damn its frustrating to be so close to frags so many times and get taken down. but it happens.
this show is full of win!

GO FOX! :>

Edited by sk!a at 12:46 CDT, 27 July 2009

<< Comment #49 @ 12:49 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

terrorhead - Reply to #47

How stupid was his attack at gl on ztn when he was tanked? Amateur stuff.

<< Comment #50 @ 12:51 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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Rondrian - Reply to #47

draven played good, but bodzo made some mistakes and didn't played his best game.

<< Comment #52 @ 12:52 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

ChOu

Bring us the VODSSsSS! aSaP!

Edited by ChOu at 14:14 CDT, 27 July 2009

<< Comment #58 @ 13:32 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

Bono

rape! 2min in and already gg

<< Comment #59 @ 13:33 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #58

such a rail whore lol.

<< Comment #60 @ 13:41 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

Bono - Reply to #59

90 rail ftw

<< Comment #64 @ 13:52 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

juM8o - Reply to #59

you must mean draven or then rail must really be opd!

Edited by juM8o at 13:55 CDT, 27 July 2009

<< Comment #65 @ 13:56 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

Six16

fox's aim is pretty amazing, i cant wait to see the finals of this thing!

<< Comment #74 @ 14:07 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

Kaide

hahah, thanks for the show, enjoyed watching

<< Comment #70 @ 14:01 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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ArchaiK

fox has come to play. wp fox!

<< Comment #73 @ 14:07 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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fdas

close games draven vs fox ... till they press ready -.-
bo dzo?
bo gowno :D

<< Comment #72 @ 14:07 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

Nukm

<3 fox, wp

<< Comment #77 @ 14:40 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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Hanzo

Very good game from Fox can't wait to see him play at Quakecon 09.

<< Comment #79 @ 15:20 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

funnyb

nice pickup SK

<< Comment #80 @ 15:41 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

ChOu - Reply to #79

Nice try of

Edited by ChOu at 15:41 CDT, 27 July 2009

<< Comment #82 @ 16:57 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

mefajpE^

fox pwnz all

gg!

:}

<< Comment #83 @ 17:41 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

nice
Av3k goes quakecon?

<< Comment #89 @ 18:40 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

vicek - Reply to #83

yes

<< Comment #85 @ 17:42 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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efassd

How many times do I have to play the damn advertisement to get to the VoD? 12000?

<< Comment #86 @ 18:17 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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Rondrian - Reply to #85

only once normally and vod shoudl start automatically after the advertisement.

<< Comment #87 @ 18:21 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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efassd - Reply to #86

:/ So what am I doing wrong? Every time it ends with the advertisement and when I play it again it's only the advertisement again.

<< Comment #88 @ 18:34 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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ChOu - Reply to #87

just press play once -_-

<< Comment #92 @ 18:49 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #88

nah, the problem came up in every esl-tv thread so far and only at first. i guess the problem only exists right after/during the upload.

<< Comment #98 @ 21:09 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

efassd - Reply to #92

Except this was for last week's broadcast?

Lucked out though, it worked eventually after I logged in to ESL.

Edited by efassd at 21:10 CDT, 27 July 2009

<< Comment #95 @ 19:41 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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klaovhwN - Reply to #88

click high quality stream on the side, it should load up the same deal on a different url and play instead of commercial loop

<< Comment #91 @ 18:44 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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btl

"ESL started out as a Quakeworld league, so of course we believe in the Quake series. We have already started reintegrating Quake 3 into the ESL Major Series and the ESL Pro Series UK earlier this year in preparation of QuakeLive maturing as a game, and now it seems as the time has finally come. ESL TV is doing a great job with their invitational right now and our summer cups just opened signup. You can certainly expect a lot more QuakeLive activity from us in the future."

From an interview with ESL affentod (http://www.fnatic.com/articles/583/2/Intervie...entod.html)

any insight on what that could mean exactly? Just more invitational style tournaments?

<< Comment #93 @ 18:53 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

xou - Reply to #91

I have my idea on that

<< Comment #96 @ 20:27 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

Weird ' - Reply to #93

care to share ?

<< Comment #97 @ 20:40 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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hnns - Reply to #96

iirc toogood hinted at a possible tour during the dm13 game.

<< Comment #99 @ 21:25 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #96

That's only an idea, I'm not even part of the ESL QL staff :p

<< Comment #100 @ 21:26 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

xou

Made some changes to the "Alternative host" (http://tinyurl.com/ls83cy) page for pretty pretty!

<< Comment #101 @ 21:42 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

baron Railgun :

"fox 2:0 HELL - ztn 9:3, t7 21:6, t4"
what about t4?

<< Comment #102 @ 22:25 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

By

dem0n - Reply to #101

bo3

<< Comment #103 @ 23:35 CDT, 27 July 2009 >>

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baron Railgun : - Reply to #102

I know
fixed

<< Comment #104 @ 01:26 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

meh_

...
For this video must login and complete an age check.

<< Comment #105 @ 01:42 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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neb - Reply to #104

because there's a lot of raping.

<< Comment #106 @ 02:24 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #105

:D:D:D

<< Comment #109 @ 03:48 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Putton

fox was $$$

<< Comment #112 @ 04:56 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

kajebilo

WHERE IS DA VOD???

<< Comment #117 @ 07:14 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

xou

Playday #2 winners are now known - http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1726628#pid1726628

vincentmalloy (Small Goliathus),

decay (Medium Goliathus) and

sNb (DeathAdder)

Playday #3 winners will be announced after the VoD is up.

<< Comment #118 @ 08:05 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #117

Don't keep me waiting. I need my VOD!$!"%� :D

<< Comment #121 @ 08:21 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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xou - Reply to #118

It's up!
http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/view/21475

Edited by xou at 08:22 CDT, 28 July 2009

<< Comment #122 @ 08:40 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #121

Damn, now how am I going to get any work done today?

<3

Edit: Also, you need to do something about those endlessly-repeating Intel ads...

Edited by bsk at 08:41 CDT, 28 July 2009

<< Comment #123 @ 08:43 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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Rondrian - Reply to #122

login at website - should help.

<< Comment #124 @ 08:46 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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bsk - Reply to #123

I'll try that, but seriously, I shouldn't have to register to view this.

Edit: seems to have worked - thanks :)

Edited by bsk at 08:57 CDT, 28 July 2009

<< Comment #125 @ 08:52 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

garz

can somebody plz give me a tan? i mistyped my mobile number, now it seems i have to wait two days!

<< Comment #127 @ 09:16 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

grats fox

<< Comment #128 @ 09:18 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Jubei

Still cant watch the vods, just get the advert and then resets.

<< Comment #129 @ 10:18 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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TUMULT - Reply to #128

It's working now, at least for me.

<< Comment #138 @ 23:31 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

apoxic - Reply to #128

Just reload the page until it works, I usually have try an odd 20 times..

<< Comment #132 @ 11:06 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

Akuma

I'm just getting the Ad over and over, just like last time :(

<< Comment #134 @ 11:15 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

xou - Reply to #132

Try to ask someone from ESL Support maybe

<< Comment #133 @ 11:10 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

By

mefajpE^

gratz aiken :D

<< Comment #136 @ 17:00 CDT, 28 July 2009 >>

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aiken - Reply to #133

thanks ;)

I was thinking about new mouse pad because my Qck is wasted a little bit. That's why my motivation gave me possibility to look into the future to win it :D. Next time I will take the mouse ;).

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