I don't think anyone on ESR will care to do SC2 coverage. So for those who are interested -> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171754

teamliquid sucks when it comes to coverage

u sux when it comes to giving fair opinion

poland suckt.

theres an opinion for you.

just prepared to spray all over!

a cumtiously love of inspiration.

Friday the 26th you mean.

brain meltdown :x

rapha vs GaRpY 2-0
DaHanG vs noctis 2-0
Cypher vs p0ni 2-0
k1llsen vs Spart1e 1-2

rapha vs noctis 2-0
DaHanG vs GaRpY 2-1
Cypher vs Spart1e 2-0
k1llsen vs p0ni 2-0

rapha vs DaHanG 2-0
noctis vs GaRpY 1-2
Cypher vs k1llsen 2-1
Spart1e vs p0ni 2-0

MSI BEATIT Grand Final - Cypher vs rapha 3-2

av3k vs Krysa 2-0
strenx vs fazz 2-0
Cooller vs guard 2-0
stermy vs Vo0 2-0

av3k vs fazz 2-0
strenx vs Krysa 2-0
Cooller vs Vo0 2-0
stermy vs guard 2-0

av3k vs strenx 2-0
fazz vs Krysa 2-0
Cooller vs stermy 2-1
Vo0 vs guard 2-1

rapha vs stermy 2-3
cypher vs strenx 3-0
av3k vs dahang 3-1
cooller vs spart1e 3-1

stermy vs cypher 0-3
av3k vs cooller 3-2

stermy-cooller 1-3
cypher-av3k 3-1

im not good at guessing.. i made these predictions more on what id like to see rather than whats more likely to happen

my prostate can't take much more of this shit!

ZSX(speaking louder) + Joe/Dahang (if he gets knocked out early) should shoutcast

or 2GD + Joe if they are there and willing.

Ischju needs to not stumble on his words. ZSX says exactly what iscjhu wants to say except says it clearly without any mistakes (stuttering/wrong words) which makes ischju obsolete.

However ischju is very enthusiastic and vibrant, which wins vs ZSX, but because he stumbles on phrases and words, by the time he finishes describing some amazing play, its been 20 seconds past that particular play and something else amazing has already happened, and he misses it.

Which makes him a terrible caster for quake.

nobody cares

I have to admit that towards the end my performance was really bad. I do agree on that part. You have to see that we have been here the entire day and I have never interviewed so many people, nor have I casted so much Quake in an entire day before. I was tired as fuck. I was really trying to keep myself awake in the end.

I don't necessarily stutter but sometimes I have problems finishing my thoughts because I get caught in what's happening on screen. I've talked with 2GD about that. I will work on that I have to find a better better balance between shutting up and letting other people say something. But it is really nice to have someone co-cast with you because it just gives you way more to discuss about and it nicer to listen to as it does not feel like some awkward monologue.

Also: This is my first time doing this. EVER. I have been doing this for like 6 months now (casting duel) in general. I have still a lot to learn but with the ability to talk to the pros and zsx at my side I am pretty sure that we will can continue this awesome event.

Stay tuned for some more action.

ya you can be one of the best imo, just fix the stumble with words/phrases and its game on.

I thought you did a great job casting yesterday.

You did a great job issue. People underestimate shoutcasting. Especially when you have to do it for so long without any preparation. I could notice you had trouble interviewing the players, but thats mainly because you had no information about their played games.

I think 2 shoutcasters is always better. You and zsx really rocked.

anyway, well done!

I think you've been doing really well man. Everyone gets compared to 2GD which is unfair, as we can't all be that fucking awesome, but your enthusiasm also shines through which is good enough for me.

Please don't put Strenx back on cast, god he was annoying in the K1llsen vs Cypher match

thanks man. I appreciate the support.

whats the playoff tree like, A1vB2/C2/D2 ?

Anybody knows if cooller is planning on playing like shit again?

If by "playing like shit" you mean in the best form we've seen him in Quake Live (air rockets, 70% rail, 40% LG) and a confirmation from cooller himself that he is playing at his peak (as he tells strenx) then yes, he will play like shit.

Tough reality :c

Also, brace yourself, I can hear qlr fanbois running towards your post.

Specifically because it wasn't just factually wrong, it was totally unrelated, too. Just like yours.

no, actually he pretty much called your presence and lo and behold here ya are.

Definitely turned one of my classrooms into a DH viewing venue :D

This looks awesome, watching a stream with friends is incomparable to watching it alone... with a beer preferably.

nice^^

woah awesome :D

LAN, quake (my irlmates don't play quake so LAN is almost never equal quake for me), DH @ big screen, and beer.

I wanna be there :(

Can someone please explain to me what's going on as I'm late to the party? Why are there two tournaments at Dreamhack? Didn't they just play the MSI one?

the final between raphar and soyfer is tomorrow

for the msi tourny that is

who is this raphar they keep speaking of

ATTENTION LEVEL UP TV

Absolutely amazing. It's ridiculous that this is your first live event at a tournament, and it's been this awesome. Other people have tried, and have "done" it, but you've actually shown everyone what streaming at a LAN event SHOULD be like.

Having TV1 and TV2 is fantastic, as well as having LQ and HQ. This pretty much satisfies everyone on any internet connection.

The quality of the stream has been amazing. Zero hiccups, zero problems, and great quality.

Let me make this clear. ZERO problems. Oh, Quake Live was down? You guys filled the stream with some friendly and entertaining people, connected with the community, entertained them, answered their questions, did interviews, and a lot more. I never saw your logo sitting there filling time. Not once. You provided content constantly, for many many hours.

The casters? Very nice. The casters KNOW Quake, the casters are exciting, and the casters are comfortable to listen to. No bullshit, no immature people trying to be funny, no garbage. It was Quake and it was awesome.

The reason I went this in-depth, is because FINALLY someone has done it right. I give kudos to people like DJ Wheat, he does a great job doing SC for MLG too, and has done great for events like Quakecon too.

Basically, casters? PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY ARE DOING. All you people trying to cast and stream? Level UP TV is your teacher, sit there and be the student. They've done a ridiculously amazing job, easily the best I've ever seen. When people watch a Quake stream, they want Quake content, and that's it. The second you cast Quake games and try to make jokes by saying cringe worthy internet phrases (herp derp, "cool story bro", etc) you've instantly lost credibility, and are probably being muted by many people. Don't satisfy the LOWEST FORM OF INTERNET USERS with channing memes and unfunny bullshit. It's not funny. We're not here to laugh. We're here to be comfortable and watch Quake.

These casters KNOW Quake too. They aren't casual players that haven't touched competitive duel, these are players that know their stuff, and can GIVE insight. Many, many casters out there don't know Quake, and the casting suffers. If all you can provide your viewers are terrible one-liners and only giving them information about what we all see "He's going to rockets, nice rail, he's going to mega, etc", then what's the point of watching? Casters are there for insight, not an audio version of what is visually happening. "He took mega". Yeah, I know, I just watched him do it. If you can't give any insight, don't even try. A fancy voice and giving viewers no insight is waste of time and talent. "Wow, he missed three rails in a row, what's wrong with him". What are you expecting? ABSOLUTE PERFECTION FROM PROS? It's painfully obvious when casters have not played at a competitive level, because they act shocked and disgusted when a pro misses three rails in a row. Example? Quake Live TV casting the 2v2 tournament a few days ago. It was ridiculous to sit there and listen to casters moan and groan about players missing shotgun shots. Do professional basketball players always hit three pointers? No, they don't, so don't expect the Quake players to be hitting 60% rail all the time. It's time like that when you need to be respectful to the players, not mock them or act like they're terrible. When 2GD says a player made a bad decision, he probably did. He's 2GD. He was top 8 in the world for Quake 4, and overall a great player. He knows competitive Quake, he's played at the high level. If you're casting and don't have that experience, don't tell your viewers when a bad decision is made, because you probably can't see or understand the bigger picture of what that player is doing. Just because he's not at MH when it spawns, doesn't mean he FORGOT the timing of the item. Don't assume a player is playing stupid, ever. Top players have a plan during games of what's to happen. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there.

Basically, if anyone wants to know the "right" way to cast an event, it's Level UP TV. No watching a logo for hours, no streams constantly being disconnected and reconnected, no terrible casting, no bullshit.

I'm happy I've seen the light. Good coverage IS possible, and you've proven it. I'll be definitely donating some money to you guys as soon as I can.

Can't wait for day two and three. You guys fucking rock.

EDIT: Oh, and VODS are up the SAME DAY? http://www.own3d.tv/lvlup#/watch/42399
Un-fucking believable. You're getting double what I was originally going to donate.

Gillz for president

Not that I dont agree but ESL Dubai and ESL IEM Europe both had great coverage(IEM Europe best of them all). IEM Finals sucked though.

yes, and last DH spring was great too imho, 2gds coming out was kind of surprising, but very entertaining

2gd is gay? When did this happen?

apparently he fucked xou - or the other way around

sounds gay to me! :D

he really gay? or is that some other coming out he did or a joke or smth? :p

Pretty sure he meant "coming out to the event" not "coming out of the closet" but no one laughed at the joke so its a lost cause.

it's British humor, 50% fact, 50% troll

sometimes u r plusable

well said, QL.TV should take this as a hint.

I have to agree. The couple matches I caught today were casted really well. I'd say my only gripe is that the one guy was super loud while the other sounded like he was 10 feet away from the mic. But regardless was still good stuff. The matches were good too. Good rant gillz.

Wow, very well put. I agree completely.

yep, a worthy cause for donation :)

plussed, pretty much rounds up my thoughts too especially about casters =)

Just showed my respect by donating some good old dollars. They rule bigtime!

someone should link your plus button with their donate button.

whatabout 5dollars for the ability to plus someone and you get an account where plussing means +10cent or so, would improve everything D:

Friendly spam: http://leveluptv.chipin.com/leveluptv-dreamhack

They bought this HD webcam and good microphones and whatever. I have donated.

yep, I agree.... perfect coverage guys so far and keep it up ! Donated to show my appreciation ;)

So fucking true.

words of truth, im totally amazed by this awesome coverage!! like 99% of the matches are streamed.
only thing that could be improved :
needs moar 2gd ! not sayin they are doin a bad job castin, but with james it would be at like 110% :D

Wow calm down man its just a game.

Donated $10 even though I slept through 90% of the stream because I LOVE INTERNET GAMEZ>>>>>>

cooller/strenx win pls

(wtb 2v2 tdm with those two as a team pst)

Yes, the coverage was great and the quality of the stream was great, but NOTHING surpassed the utter awesomeness of the Vo0gd show. there were some immensely entertaining matches today but nothing quite compared to the hilarity that ensued when vo0 and 2gd took the mic.

I hope the stream is viewable this time..all i saw was buffering when I went to watch ;(

LeveL UP!! Beautiful LQ and HQ streams. No issues at all. Excellent coverage, hilarious interviews and a bunch of good shoutcasters. The vods were up too, so any match that I missed while at work got compensated for :DD

We're not dreaming. This actually happened!

they got a good config too

would prefer lower picmip and higher gamma

Maybe only a little bit higher gamma. The rest is perfect.

Gather all players configs plx |[

love the Vo0 and GaRpY show :DDD

C O O L L E R
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C O O L L E R, plz show Y O U R game,
stop gambling
man!!!!!11 fOR THE WIN !!!

for mozer russia (c) coolleR

for mozer Russia (c) all Russians

Lets do this!

Unfortunately, I did not see more than the last 2 games yesterday! But I'm glad coverage seems to be good (for once!) and [+] to level up for that!

Such a nice tournament and I can even bet on these at XLBet for real money. Well, at the moment it is just for the first map's score instead of results and it seems they have some fairly harsh rules for actually getting any winnings out of there but it's still possible if you win enough. And I like the idea, been waiting for years to be able to do it.

I'm completely unrelated to the site, just like watching QL & betting and hope they keep doing it in the future. :P

lvl^ owns

VLC LINKS?

I only have 1 tiny issue, my connection can't even handle the low quality stream.. so I'm stuck at work with no chance of watching any QL.. fucking level^ making me do work :(

Note: I can usually watch the ESL free stream on this connection..

Anybody got any ideas how I can lower the quality of the stream from my end?

lvlup ftw everyone donate!

lvl^

plz increase game sounds (compared to your voices )

tnx

this !
On the other hand, really nice coverage, thx you guys !

yes coverage is great.

I'm mentioning the in-game sounds coz they are rly important in understanding why a player is making certain decisions etc. And to be able to hear everything a player hears the casters get way way to loud.

+ some kind of echo or "hall" effect is present with in-game sounds.

noctis grew a pair on aero, amazing agressive rocketry pew pew.
He just needs t learn how to keep it cool.

Are there any other streams that aren't using own3d.tv? Yet again It just endlessly connects, whereas every other stream site works perfectly.

had the same problems a few days ago, "fixed" it by using a different browser

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOCCCTISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS \o/

lvlup|own3d.tv stream|vods don't work for me - black screen.
What could be a solution except obvious ones like update player|different browser|ad blocking|firewall|dns - cos it was working month ago, but today i tried and all i got is a black screen.
Any help would be appreciated. thx

I know this isn't the most practical solution, but when our company connection sucked yesterday, using my umts-stick did the trick.

i have the same issue on firefox. chrome will play the stream.

nice way to start and get your motivation on by playing cypher in first round :<

look at the bright side. He can get it over with and enjoy the last two games.
At least as long as k1llsen doesn't go gamescom mode.
And as long as spartie doesn't have one of his good days.

Cooler go go go!

I hope he will play at his peak and a have a more luck than yesterday

group stage:
cooller vs dahang 2:0
cooller vs voo 2:0
cooller vs stermy 2:1

I only hope he won't meet cypher too early.

666 viewers on stream 1

Is there any possibilty to watch the screen without installing the Adobe Flash Player? I don't have admin privileges and can't install it :(

unfortunately, no

It works great with a FireFox addon called Flash Switcher:

http://blog.sephiroth.it/firefox-extensions/f...r/#install

Actually nevermind the stream is back to being a piece of shit.

the best thing is its quite possible that most of the players will play even more better today
(coz they got use to the environment, motivation is way up after yesterday,, etc)

so far it seems so \o/

Wow killsen. Should have lost aerowalk. Biggest idiot in the game. Without rail he is easily the worst player. No creativity. No interesting moves. Absolutely no balls to make a play.

inb4 germans saying he's the smartest guy in the game

you'll have to wait a bit longer for that one ;)

because germans arent awake yet?

yes, exactly.

it's good to see so many styles in quake

cypher = rocket nigga
strenx = shaft nigga
k1llsen = rail nigga
cooller = brain nigga
rapha = +back/trap nigga
av3k = +forward nigga
noctis = emo nigga

uh

This made me think.


Has there ever been a black Quake player?

lost cause

sparks

think he meant good quakers

*cauze

jamerio

Cypher = Nigga of all niggaz

cypher = rockets + brain
strenx = shaft + brain
k1llsen = rail
cooller = dodging + map control + brain
rapha = +back/trap + multiple item timing + brain
av3k = +forward + brain

that's more like it

I'm still waiting for people to explain to me where the rail is hidden on dm13 ;)

psstt..it's in the lava :D

cypher's rail > or = killsen's rail (imho >)

nigga please

imho he did a few very interesting moves on cooller yesterday, but even oh his nearly best he couldn't defeat him

haha i want to see you 1v1 against killsen first LG only and then RL only.

killsen is fast becoming my most hated player. f^cking railwhore like i've never seen one

i was raging just seeing that shit from spart1es pov, if i were him i'd hit the bitch with a chair during the game, go back to my table and frag him while hes unconcious.

u mad?

yea

if he only had, half the brain of cooller, rapha, cypher, av3k, noctis, spart1e ...

Even strenx looks like a genious when he is playing, compared to killsen! Btw I have to admit that strenx seems quite smart and he was just probably lucking experience.

killsen is so annoying..

I don't get k1llsen sometimes. His rocket and lg aim is sick too I just don't think that he knows it otherwise he wouldn't have played that stupid on aero.

yeah he absolutely doesnt know, but you do :D
i think the main problem on aero imho was that he wanted to slow the match down and expected to do enough dmg with rail to get back sooner or later, but he was caught of guard by how strong spart1es attack were. if he would have pushed for some major items he might have given up some frags faster but would probably have ended up with control again sometime

he wanted a rail like a crackhead wants a rock, was fucking hilarious to see spart1e just camp it. Pretty sad man

You don't have to defend him. The last 4-5 min was really bad played. Instead of running away and trying to get the rail he should have tried to get a synced item. It was the same vs cooller on t7 yesterday. Cooller predicted him so well because k1llsen is to fixed on his rg.

how am i defending him? i said he made a bad decision to play the waay he has. but yeah im german, so i must be defending him

and now you are defending yourself, another German defending a German.


Q.E.D.

Well I'm German too ;)

yeah he absolutely doesnt know, but you do :D

Totally unnecessarily comment sounds kinda biased to me.
I'm just saying that he played better at gamescom and wasn't that fixed on his rail.

I'd say he uses RG even in not so favourable situations, but as he still hits, it pays off so well

poor p0ni :(

i already turned off the sound, since those twats are so freaking annoying...loooooooosers, commenting other games after they got raped in the groupstage. it's always sad.

quite awesome how fast the results get updated here.
im at uni and can still follow dh map by map!

firefox: nothing whatsoever loads
IE: i can see and hear the ads, after this I only get the ingame sounds with a black screen

:/

in google chrome everything is ok

Busy busy busy morrrrrrrrning

Attached Misc File: 79690-Friday.JPG (287KB)

how many eyes do you have?

You don't even see my firefox window which is behind all these :)

that's a pretty damn good start of any day!

where is your gomtv stream ? ;)

sen vs nestea? wow i need to watch some sc2 aswell

Gawd I wanna watch, but I still got another 6 hours at work to go.

Gonna miss most of DH this year.. nothing yesterday, nothing today.. bah.

whos comentating rapha vs noctis ? that silence voice in ecstatic is great :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

noctis hacker! :D

noctis making us proud
edit nevermind

pummel rage mode ftl :(((

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE

zell played PG Aussie!

loving noctis2.0 :D digging his play and rockets

nice rockets from notics vs rapha. hes reading/predicting him both gameplay vise and in rocket fight situations

Wow, rapha is looking a little off form, hope he can pull through here :o

noo noctis :/

mid air gg

hahaha EMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm sure noctis had some extra motivation playing against rapha.

ATOMROFL @ noctis.

i think noctis has some sort of winning fear. that was purpose xDD

such fucking fantastic casting today, just so solid. This rivals 2gd/joe (minus the humor) but its really good. I'll have to donate something, perfect stream + this casting + great quake = super win.

Noctits mistakes make rapha rage. He forgot mega time so he went to YA and rapha ran into him like 'wtf brah? mega is spawning for you!' and died then noctis got mega lol.

i didn't forget mega time, i tried to cut him off and surprise him... duh

it looked like you forgot, however if you say u did it on purpose, that was 1 fucking awesome move. SEE YOU CAN DO IT IF YOU TRY, GOGOGOOGOGOGOG

fkin hell noctis :(

noctis we're sorry mate :(

ggs noctis

damn bad luck at the end of ztn...

anyway respect for noctis, great player

he needs to wake up earlier and practice for smth important like this, especially when the most important game is first, not go drinkning with spart1e

dahang did well too, i hope you're enjoying the show

noctis doesn't drink.

Wait the end of the day and just ask zsx to sing in french, that will make your day!
Couldnt see any game today, probably as good as yesterday hopefully i ll get vods.
cheers

cypher vs spartie furious heights

Beginning, first close combat, cypher remains with 1hp and picks up RA, luck is also a skill. :D

Cypher is going to win this tournament. Quote me.

Hate to rain on your parade, but you aren't coming up with any revolutionary insight that no one else has by saying that.

It's like watching Muhammad Ali dominate ever other boxer in a tournament and then picking him to win saying, "You can quote me." Well no duh! The obvious pick is cypher.

If you were to say "p0ni is going to win" and then said "quote me" then I would give you some credit.

can i quote you on that

Rapha still has a chance to win this. Quote ted.

cypher is on his own level atm.. like yesterdays game rapha vs cypher. Rapha has lost games before but it allways felt like his aim wasnt on or not just being in form or whatever, but yesterday rapha looked realy sharp his aim was on but he was just outplayed.

ye cypher is goooood. everyone got it. pls stop talkin about his awesomeness. i'm talkin it

especially at stream. about this ninja stuff and awesomeness.. just a `little` annoin :|

you jealous?

probably cooller fanboy

probably noones fanboy :/

neh :D just it's seems like there's nothing else to talk about on stream. when whoever facing cypher it goes like "omg he just hit 3rd rail in a row, and he's not makin any mistakes, not even when he's not at contro" and this is sad... same old words over and over

They are too busy spraying cum, who cares about casting

did you listen to russian casting of some cups like zotac?

i've tried :x

It's always easier to hate. You should always praise when reason is there <3

true that :)

pOni should really learn how to shoot from shotgun. :(

Cypher is going to win this tournament. Quote me.

cypher is the most gifted quake player ever

Oops, this isn't tek9 :p

AHAHAHA zsx is brutal

xD

:D

;D

He is the one!

...and its not even a joke...

hahaha n1 :D

haha awesome

lol, how do you keep making this stuff up. great :o)

Make what stuff up?

jokes I guess

That's no joke. That's Cypher's actual view

damn I took the bait again =) gg wp

clearly shopped.


there is no rail on t9.

This is Cypher. He can use a rail on T9

oh, I didn't know.


Feel so noob now :(

looks like he can also use bfg disguised as plasma.

he's also holding LG

Who's to say that he didn't switch in the time it changed to his viewpoint?!1??!?!1

I'd say no.

no wonder he is so good.. every pixels of the map has been calculated and monitored by him! :D

K1llsen !

awesome. have a ton of plusses.

wd

OMMFFGG RAPHA

That rapha camping is so JIBO!

yey timmmyyyy

http://www.ustream.tv/day9tv really nice stream, better quality than GSL premium :/

look at that crowd for SC2, wow.. if only Quake had Blizzard behind it :(

I'm so glad that someone at last kicked rapha's ass, bravo da hang!

cypher and rapha gon' downnnn damnnnnnn.

i blame my manager for not waking up

;p

man you should play more careful. you gave away 2 maps yourself

wp DaHang!

ROFL...

"ok lets speak normal now"

still sounds the same.

loooooooooooooooool

get strenx off the stream please.

k1llsen beating cypher! and this was done by fucking awesome rockets! not rail, hahaha

proud?

yes. but i have to correct myself: in the end it was the rail again.

It's funny really. I remember hub games vs. Jibo and fox where k1llsen controlled all three items for like 10mins.

Clearly all aim.

the answer for the most next questions:
"zadrot ebannuy" = "fucking nolifer"

thanks ^^

zadrot = who practicing alot [24\7]
ebaniy = fuckin..

epIC RAGE ;DD

Maybe Cypher should keep his mouth shut, he's not exactly tough looking. Killsen would totally take him in a fight.

k1llsen has a kid, that's automatically a nolifer :P

lol?

Pathetic.

He's a great player, but also such a kiddo.

so many epic quotes from strenx lmao

strenx is BEST CASTER EVER
even better than 2GD

it might works when he is casting hsi own game life but currently its just annoying and not funny tbh :/(

first map was great IMHO, but then I agree, he got boring

wtf you all like strenx casting? :D hes only saying very obvious shit like "nice rail", nothing insightful
accent was funny for a few minutes, but now he's just useless

and now (hektik) it's pretty annoying how he tries to be funny. :/

yea. castin is ez... an anozer rail!

hahah "its not your shaft man"

strenx is such a bad caster, plz get him off. he thinks he is funny, but he is not. beeing a good player does not mean to be a good caster.

It also seems that strenx talks down everything what killsen does and cheers everything what cypher does. Personal shit. Rivalry can be interesting though, like cooller/rapha, but they just have more quality than strenx.

I've bet on Cypher as Group winner so ffs don't lose CYPHER!

you don't need wallhack to know where is k1llsen (c) strenx

yeah, take killsen away from rail and you win

Shut up, France.

strenx is retarded..... a 6 years old child does not say so much stupid things

get strenx off stream, i hate when he tries to be funny.

I like how zsx wants to commentate properly but strenx keeps messing it up for him lol

k1llsen is racking em up!

i'm really enjoying strenxs casting, he gets so excited! and he actually comments on whats happening NOW! not what happened ten minutes ago.

i'm not a big fan of this "analytical style" casters are trying to adopt, its so annoying when something really exciting is happening on screen and they are still talking about quake philosophy! it's a bit like watching a football match and listening to the commentators nonchalantly discussing a refereeing decision, while someone has just scored a winning goal and they completely ignore it.

i agree

wtf?

all I heard from strenx was "nice rail by k1llsen" combined with bullshit catchphrases that arent funny or stuff like "remember how cypher played against cooller at Qcon on aerowalk" during a ztn game.

strenx just wants to find his image in the quake scene as "the funny clown", but fails miserably.

edit:

remember on ztn when k1llsen was aiming from teleporter exit to RA in order to shoot a rocket when cypher would RJ up to RA?
cypher did this awesome unexpected RJ towards k1llsen and totally surprised him. well, guess what happened on stream: they talked about some nonsense nobody wants to hear and completely ignored it.

apparently scowl got ZE SHOTGUNNNNN IN ZE FACE??

YES I AM TALKING IT!

agree, strenx was just annoyingly trying to be funny or i dont even know what he was attempting really
nothing insightful to add, just the standard "omg nice rail" which I CAN SEE FOR MYSELF live. only person who can pull that off is joe :D

totally agree, strenx has no quality. you could tie a chimp to a chair, give him some xtc bananas, but I guess it's cheaper to get strenx.



But honestly, refering to kRoNic: being analytical does not mean, you can't get excited. Take djwheat for example, he masters both. And for me, the levelup casters do a really good job. of course there is room for improvement, but it is far beyond boring.

ye i think its fine to be analytical but when something exciting is happening i think you should put your theories to one side. i'm just thinking specifically of spartie vs cypher on aero, cypher had a 10-0 lead and spartie brings it back to 10-8 and during the entire comeback issue(?) was going off on a tangent for the entire time.

didn't watch this particular game, but strenx _always_ wants to sound witty and funny (as if he was somehow superior to everyone else), which is just pathetic.

djwheat + duel casting = no go

dj wheat and analytical? sif.
he totally sucks at commenting. wheat is just a loud american with no off-button.

he's good at play-by-play commenting, but you need to put in someone else who actually understands the game.

wheat is legendary!!!!

no hes right, djwheat knows less about quake than a random ffa nub!

Didn't see a wheat cast for looooong time. But back in those days, I loved his way of commentating and also his tactical thoughts about the matches. He also provided us with the personalities of the players and their history. The iceclimbers matches he commented where so good.
Maybe I was/still am too newby these days to understand real tactics, but I enjoyed it. Anyway he had no real competitors. Especially not at the painkiller era with "booom waang wooom baaaaang shakalaka" :)

you're probably right..

it all depends what you come to see, i come to see the best players play quake and not listen to some eager beaver trying to tell everyone (in great detail) how much he knows about quake.

it just bores me to death listening to these so called "insightful" comments that really arent insightful at all if you have any amount of duel experience.

i'm not saying strenx was brilliant, but for me it was like a breath of fresh air after listening to the previous day of commentating.

not listen to some eager beaver trying to tell everyone (in great detail) how much he knows about quake.

sounds like someone's jealous

jealous? no. Irritated yes. I find it really detracts the excitement from the game.

Then you would love him cast some UT
http://www.break.com/index/angry_german_kid_with_subtitles.html

It's better to have both, that's why ischju and zsx work well, but ischju can take a while to get out what he says though

Why would anyone comment on whats happening right now, you can see what is happening yourself? Its just anyoing. Like "He hit him with a rail" - Like no shit sherlock, i saw that.

What i cant see is how top players are thinking and why they make some of the weird decisions they make. So more analyzing and less stupid comments about what is happenings, thanks.

casters rating of the last 2 days:

vo0: ok-ish outside the game, bad commentating during the game.
Likes to hear himself talk way too much.

garpy: Surprisingly very good, calm and analytical. Being a native speaker helps aswell.

zsx: Also quite good and calm, although insulting other people irl comes across as quite sad (I know he doesn't mean half of it, but still)

ischu: I'm sorry but I can't stand him at all. Talks too much, and about the wrong things. Also during interviews wants to ask the questions AND give the answers himself. Seriously dude stop interrupting people all the time after you ask a question! He can and will probably improve because he casts so much, but right now... :/.

dahang: Also a very good, calm doesn't talk too much or too little. Talks about relevant stuff. Made a great duo with zsx yesterday.

strenx: Trying way too hard , but still young so somewhat understandable.

thats exactly how i feel about all the casters (except vo0 i didnt hear him cast a game)

strenx should never be near mic again. period.





























let the flame begins xD

oh no it's this shit again. can't you make it into a "of 100 points" rating? i guess everyone wants to know your opinion in detail

oh noes, someone giving feedback instead of useless one liners

oh ye, change the world, man

ahh, misplussed :D

dude wtf lvl asked for feedback, they want to improve so giving them feedback is benefiting everyone...

and magician had a few good points, ischjues interview with dahang for example really annoyed me aswell cause he was telling his analysis instead of asking the player... no hate, just things to imrove on

haha \:D/

i can agree with the content. was just annoyed by the shematic responding, cause people take it too serious and get affected in any way by it. also in my experience this ultimate judgment which is fluid but looks steely leads to just more endless lists with the conclusion that everyone is suprisinglya different.

While i really appriciate Ischju & lvl^ doing this for the community,
Dude Ischju.. You do not know what you are talking about.
You analyse ingame situations completely wrong, I'd tell you to stick to play by play but you often get that wrong too :(

I just die a little inside when you manage to say that someone is hitting a rail when they didnt etc.


zsx & garpy both doing a very good job commentating! props to them!

It's not that they're too analytical. It just skips on a lot of the important action. This is what we've been getting:

"oh my gosh. and that was a... really good... rocket jump from... uhm... cypher"
*meanwhile cypher performs a double backflip rail, tying the score*
"uhm... and now hes got very low hp"

i guess the problem is just in the nature of a fast paced action game.
looks like very hard to divide the visual impressions with the strategic thoughts. i also guess, thats why the "best" commentators are the ones that arent too focused and narrow minded at all, and keep their head open for links to unrelated stuff. so to say in a constant circulation mode.

cypher is throwing a chair!

killsen's bullshit rail has got me raged and i'm not even playing......

yeaaaaaaaah, he should get ban for rail.

i've got a feeling that playing against k1llsen makes you wanna quit playing quake for life

or at least make you type "zadrot ebaniy" in caps :D

watch your language, young man!

but srs cypher is on the dark side now :(

i wonder if losing that last set and raging will affect him in the MSI final vs rapha :D

i guess it did effect :| you cant take it off the big picture.

hahaha cypher and all his fanboi's rageeeeeeed

was strenx coked up or something? jesus

buhaha cypher got pwnd so hard!
go killsen!

k1llsen log in =)

Happy Paul :D

aint he @ swe? -.-

touche!

lol calipt

I cheer for cypher but damn GG WP k1llsen :D

and lol @ strenx xD

cypher writing this russian bullshit is so weak, if you wanna flame, at least have the courage to write it in english so the other person can read at and not only your homies

Yep, everyone knows k1llsen's rail, just deal with it.
Also, k1llsen had better rockets there today too, so why complaining.

agreed. totally incompetitive behaviour

Agreed, he just comes off as an immature raged kid.

nothing to do with courage tbh
he's not doing it to tell everyone what he thinks of killsen, he's doing it to release anger (which comes to his mind in his native tongue obviously).

not saying it's the right thing to do, of course

nothing to do with courage tbh
he's not doing it to tell everyone what he thinks of killsen, he's doing it to release anger (which comes to his mind in his native tongue obviously).

courage was not the best choice of words maybe cause i have to agree a bit, its prolly his natural way to release some anger but thats only one side of the medal and the other side is what i wrote in my post

yeah of course its immature etc, cant disagree with that

hes just lucky that quakers are no ballers.

bitchslayer for instance would have broken cyphers bones for that ;D

I find it hard to believe you've never said anything obscene to another player when something outrageous happened.

my post was about the language he used
and no, although i tend to rage quite a bit, i never take it to a personal level. i might say " you played stupid" but i would never say "you are a fucking idiot"

writing that in english would get him disqualified (atleast it should).
guess noone cares what 2 russian words mean.

k1llsen My Boy doing it big! Beating up on cyphaaa!

Strenx casting was awesome. Hillarious and funny! No need to be serious about quake

Yesterday my day was made when strenx beat cooller, and today k1llsen beat cypher.

Fanboys are crying in a corner, and the haters are speechless.

... which makes you sound like a hater :)

jaaahahahaha

awesome job, LVL^!! best coverage ever?

just sent you $10. should cover voo's coke.

may send more at the end of the event, if things continue to go this well :)

Cypher got outaimed on every weapon. Especially k1llsen's rl was > cypher's.
Ah and to quote myself

I think k1llsen or strenx can beat him because both can time 2+ items and have a aim which can keep up with cypher's.

again, cypher himself said that he times ra+mh
k1llsens timing is kinda weak
so timing does not seperate thsoe two tbh

Have you seen the rapha k1llsen game on dm13? Where is his timing weak?

the thing on dm13 k1llsen usually times one item, not more. he has a very good sense of when the items spawn without timing them but on some maps you just need to time them by the second and he often he does not. he is also does not use sound clues for timing very well like rapha does for example...
we dont have to agree on anything here, but i have seen enough of k1llsen to say that timing is not a strong point in his game

Then he has a very good feeling :P. Didn't knew that but I still doubt it.

Actually he told me he doesn't time at all except some few times like at the first item spawns.

strenx needs to increase his retarded mouse sensitivity first

strenx had me in tears through the whole thing. this was instant classic.

tears of vicarious embarrassment?

Ok so now will Cooller drop his last game against Stermy in order to play against Dahang instead of Cypher? (assuming both of them will beat VoO and Guard)

I don't think that it will be easy to beat Guard. We could be surprised.
I agree on Vo0 btw

Yep.. cypher keeps making his life harder by using a shit mouse and getting outaimed against any player with the same level of map knowledge and prediction, nothing new here.

well played to DaHang and QuakeSen

cypher just played bad himself

strenx so bad hes actually entertaining :P

k1llsen's form is insane blabla..c'mon..cypher was rushing like an angry kid.

Angry Cypher on iPhone must sell a trillion copies

strenx sucks at casting. Get that clown away from that microphone..

strenx not funny at all. srsly ..

like a 10 year old kid...

Well, with yesterdays result I wasn't expecting k1llsen to beat Cypher. I find it interesting that dahang and k1llsen stepped up their games vs the two finalists in the Beat IT tournament. Yesterday I thought Cypher would have an edge in the final over Rapha but his bad/careless performance vs k1llsen today might get to him more than Raphas loss to Dahang will.

1 hour and 7 minutes left!

right. thought the same

btw, any galleries?

And configs/setups?

(I got the first here!)

none since quakecon2010. Idk why really

what the fuck time is does this shit restart what the fuck time is 4oclock over there here?

10am est

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/us...e/convert/

is this correct?

I don't know. Just drop down the Schedule in this post. They're using timezone-tags.

wtf now its in CST? wtf is that?

it's esr magic, the schedule converts to the timezone you have set.

16:00 CET is in 43 minutes from now.

edit: fuck fuck wtf wtf shit

fuck ill keep the stream up and stare at it for the rest of the day. All these time zone bull shit is confusing me. I have the patience of a rock to stare though.

i just learned that theres a fucking clock on esreality, its super tiny but look at the top left of the page, shit is set in EST now for the euro bitches, so i can just check schedule and know when things are playing.

shit is set in EST now for the euro bitches, so i can just check schedule and know when things are playing.

lolwut?

meant CET

that depends on your timezone settings.

Level Up Tv - YOU ROCKS! :D
No delays, great stream quality and allowing players to cast games :D. Yesterdays 2gd + vo0 was epic :D

+ props for not censoring

nice job lvl, its like the hottest ameteur porn, my favourite!

it's funny cuz i use all rail trap/+back style vs newbs and shit in duel to rage people, but here fucking k1llsen is using it vs CYPHER of all people, the fucking superhero of quake and winning. That's impressive, just wow.

True, our rails vs Cypher will going straight in the walls from pressure 200/200 :]

rails always hit walls or infinity, rails penetrate flesh!

but i see that was not your point :P

Awaiting Approval hardly :>

you said the opposite of what you wanted to say

awaiting [+]

why the buzz lightyear stuff on k1llsen?

this guys reminds me more of dahang

Where are the shoes?

it's cypher and k1llsen.

No the fotoshop can't cheat me

It's nice to see people being creative with my original picture that I made!! xx

It's too damn good to not use again :D

It's a meme lol http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/x-x-everywhere

I know, I used the Buzzlightyear from there for it :P