ESR - DreamHack Winter 2011 Gametype(s)?

Jönköping from the 24th to the 27th of November 2011. So far nothing about the Quake tournament(s) was really announced, excepted for a hint about TDM.

What gametype(s) would you prefer to see at this coming DreamHack?

Related: DreamHack Summer 2011 Poll

Edited by xou at 21:51 UTC, 25 September 2011 - 52333 Hits

<< Comment #1 @ 19:23 UTC, 21 September 2011 >>

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esdf

screw duel, vote ctf & tdm!

<< Comment #2 @ 19:24 UTC, 21 September 2011 >>

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Silencep - Reply to #1

Indeed

<< Comment #3 @ 19:58 UTC, 21 September 2011 >>

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ins - Reply to #1

why not all 3? :D

<< Comment #39 @ 18:24 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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gooda - Reply to #1

fuck ctf, go duel & tdm !

Edited by gooda at 18:24 UTC, 23 September 2011

<< Comment #7 @ 21:58 UTC, 21 September 2011 >>

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GhostX

CTF!!!!!!

<< Comment #4 @ 20:58 UTC, 21 September 2011 >>

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Disrepute

CA!

<< Comment #6 @ 21:43 UTC, 21 September 2011 >>

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d1z - Reply to #4

Clan Arena: 1.1% (1)

Forever alone face, eh?

<< Comment #12 @ 05:49 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #6

Spart1e DreamHack Winter 2011 Gametype(s)? Clan Arena

:D

<< Comment #5 @ 21:20 UTC, 21 September 2011 >>

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[eXodus]

why not drop duel and have ctf and tdm :)

<< Comment #9 @ 01:11 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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foctis - Reply to #5

Is there any reason they couldn't run all three? (Not a rhetorical question, I don't know how tight the scheduling is etc.)

<< Comment #14 @ 08:11 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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raw - Reply to #9

While i'd like to see all three (couldnt care less for CTF but i know others do), it might be too time consuming to get them all done in a long weekend. Especially as half the players from TDM would need to play CTF as well.

Edited by raw at 08:12 UTC, 22 September 2011

<< Comment #8 @ 22:26 UTC, 21 September 2011 >>

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retire

voted ctf & tdm

<< Comment #10 @ 02:03 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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0x5f3759df

rushhh voted: Free For All, Team Deathmatch, Duel

I just love pure deathmatch. :c

<< Comment #11 @ 02:08 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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oneroomdisco

Duel will be probably invite only, so CTF.

<< Comment #13 @ 06:21 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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esdf

eh yday ctf & tdm in the lead, now duel & tdm... another boring lan i guess. lemme tell you the duel standings: rapha cypher cooller strenx.

<< Comment #17 @ 10:59 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #13

and the TDM standings: toxic's team, noctis' team, some other team at third place which nobody cares about.

Doesn't necessarily make it less enjoyable. Even though I must admit that I stopped caring about duel, too.

Any yeah, CTF with EG coming over and 3-4 top European teams would be really cool imo, I don't think there would be a clear favorite.

Edited by scowl at 11:01 UTC, 22 September 2011

<< Comment #59 @ 10:35 UTC, 26 September 2011 >>

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raziel2p - Reply to #17

Does EG still have a CTF team?

http://myeg.net/team/divisions-players/quake-live-division/

<< Comment #60 @ 10:36 UTC, 26 September 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #59

I don't think it would be impossible for them to find a new sponsor, given their results at the last QCons. So when I said "EG", let's say I meant the players that used to play as EG. ;>

Edited by scowl at 10:37 UTC, 26 September 2011

<< Comment #15 @ 08:57 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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amOKchen

dont care for ctf, duel firstly then tdm.

<< Comment #16 @ 10:15 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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Kaide

TDM and duel!

<< Comment #18 @ 13:04 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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sirax

TDM, Duel, CTF..

<< Comment #19 @ 13:57 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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sharpe

I'd like tdm for playing, duel for watching

<< Comment #20 @ 15:23 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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nicerdicer

TDM is the best anyway, but i think CTF will looks more better for viewers, anyway, the last lan-CTF tournament was a long ago...and what about winter for CTF, summer for TDM(mad).

Edited by nicerdicer at 15:23 UTC, 22 September 2011

<< Comment #21 @ 15:25 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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esdf

imo quake at it's best is in the team modes. should just drop duels already. amount of new top duelers that can challenge for best 5 spots is 0 anyway.

<< Comment #24 @ 19:40 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #21

Same goes for the amount of potential TDM winners.

<< Comment #40 @ 18:27 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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gooda - Reply to #21

duel is the best thing to watch and most skilled

<< Comment #85 @ 15:53 UTC, 29 September 2011 >>

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boleslav69 - Reply to #21

What kind of drugs are you using. Share with us pls.

<< Comment #22 @ 17:14 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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smreism

CTF please. TDM has been boring...even the close games...

<< Comment #23 @ 18:24 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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Dronar

FreezeTag!!!!

<< Comment #35 @ 17:33 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #23

FreezTag is awesome, id make it free ffs!

<< Comment #62 @ 16:29 UTC, 26 September 2011 >>

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blaze - Reply to #23

Indeed, much more fun to watch than TDM!

<< Comment #25 @ 19:46 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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ctf and tdm please

<< Comment #26 @ 20:29 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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Thrilla

I would like to see some euro CTF action with EG going over. In the past many of the better euro CTF team's could not attend qcon for financial reasons and there CTF seen has always been a lot more active then the NA seen has. It would be interesting to see EG's performance over there.

<< Comment #66 @ 19:32 UTC, 26 September 2011 >>

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Something - Reply to #26

this.

<< Comment #27 @ 22:02 UTC, 22 September 2011 >>

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dru1d

Instagib FFA.

<< Comment #28 @ 00:28 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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cha0z_

Tdm and duel. Tho I will not rage if ctf slips over duel. :)

<< Comment #29 @ 05:06 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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higgs

TDM + FFA =)

<< Comment #30 @ 10:33 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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Anonymous (92.224.75.91)

duel is boring since there are always the same 4-5 people on top.
in my opinion teambased modes are more spectator friendly and not predictable like duel atm.
so TDM & CTF.
FFA & CA is horrible to watch and boring.

<< Comment #31 @ 10:57 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #30

4-5

you mean rapha, cypher, cooller, strenx, av3k, k1llsen, stermy, spart1e, dahang, noctis, czm, z4muz ... ?

<< Comment #32 @ 14:35 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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annihiluzz - Reply to #31

LMAO@k1llsen, stermy, spart1e, dahang, noctis, czm, z4muz

<< Comment #33 @ 15:41 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #32

- k1llsen won over rapha in final of IEM gamescom
- spart1e lost to rapha 3-2 in quakecon's 2009 final
- dahang placed 2nd after cypher on DHW '10 Kaspersky QL tourney
- noctis placed 3rd at Dubai
- stermy had some top 4 placings (maybe better? can't remember)
- z4muz placed 2nd after av3k at DHW09 (after playing ql for only a couple of months)
- czm suprised us all with his form at last quakecon (placed 4th)

the names where selected and not randomly picked. All of them have achieved top placings and are capable of doing so again, depending on participation, practise, current form and luck, of themselves and their opponents.

<< Comment #34 @ 15:57 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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annihiluzz - Reply to #33

all of this was 2 years ago so pls

<< Comment #41 @ 18:28 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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gooda - Reply to #34

lol u are so stupid.. how can u be so dumb to post this lolz

<< Comment #43 @ 18:39 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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annihiluzz - Reply to #41

lol u are so stupid.. how can u be so dumb to post this lolz

<< Comment #45 @ 21:19 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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gooda - Reply to #43

i dont take ppl like u serious.. if u see what noctis brought at DHS, czm at Qcon .. its all couple months ago xD

<< Comment #46 @ 21:52 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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annihiluzz - Reply to #45

didnt watch dhs and qcon ;<

<< Comment #49 @ 17:48 UTC, 24 September 2011 >>

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gooda - Reply to #46

so stfu

<< Comment #50 @ 23:15 UTC, 24 September 2011 >>

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annihiluzz - Reply to #49

ok noctis and czm, so two more people LOL stfu

<< Comment #51 @ 11:29 UTC, 25 September 2011 >>

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gooda - Reply to #50

dahang at DHW xD omagad my point is.. ur arguement is stupid

<< Comment #57 @ 20:27 UTC, 25 September 2011 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #51

kids

<< Comment #36 @ 17:34 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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mefajpE^

What the fuck. What CA is doing here? It's not Quake, CA is for pussies.

<< Comment #37 @ 17:48 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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kg - Reply to #36

Of course it is Quake.

<< Comment #38 @ 18:10 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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PopeJo - Reply to #36

yay pussies \o/

<< Comment #42 @ 18:30 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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gooda - Reply to #36

true.. CA is for the brainless fags

<< Comment #69 @ 09:07 UTC, 27 September 2011 >>

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fugie - Reply to #42

Based on your posts here, it would suit you

<< Comment #44 @ 18:47 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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ggnore

Duel, ctf, ffa ftw

<< Comment #47 @ 22:38 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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oneroomdisco

Don't bother with duel, all the most recent duel events have been invite only, and I imagine this wouldn't be any different. It's the same people over and over at the top, not that there is anything wrong with that, but there's other things more deserving. For two years the euros had to come all the way to North America to play CTF, why not give them a chance there? This DH could be a big team mode event, CTF and TDM. Even if the duel event was open, you still can't overlook the fact that CTF has been missing in Europe for a while. I'm sure there's lots of euro CTF teams who would want to go :)

29%

<< Comment #82 @ 11:14 UTC, 29 September 2011 >>

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Martel - Reply to #47

CTF teams would be mix of the players that attend for the TDM :>

But still, it would make the event more popular

Edited by Martel at 11:15 UTC, 29 September 2011

<< Comment #90 @ 15:10 UTC, 30 September 2011 >>

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[eXodus] - Reply to #47

true, if theres ctf we will travel to sweden compete in ctf and tdm on the side. i'm sure some other teams would do the same.

<< Comment #48 @ 23:48 UTC, 23 September 2011 >>

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ffx

but there's other things more deserving

Yeah like those active pro tdm and ctfers :D

<< Comment #52 @ 13:15 UTC, 25 September 2011 >>

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Yavich

Go all

<< Comment #53 @ 17:29 UTC, 25 September 2011 >>

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juM8o

These polls are totally useless since tdmrs spam links to these in their communities / channels in order to get biased poll result to favour TDM, the fact is duel is the most entertaining mod and it should be main focus in each quake event.

IMO put 55% of total price pool on duel, 40% on TDM and 5% on FFA.

<< Comment #54 @ 17:55 UTC, 25 September 2011 >>

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xou - Reply to #53

That's just a random poll, nobody from dreamhack ever asked me to do it. I was bored and made it, end of story.

<< Comment #55 @ 18:46 UTC, 25 September 2011 >>

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duumed - Reply to #53

entertainment value doesn't really matter when there's only a handful of people watching imo

Edited by duumed at 18:46 UTC, 25 September 2011

<< Comment #56 @ 18:56 UTC, 25 September 2011 >>

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T1E - Reply to #53

or maybe tdmrs/ctfrs are more likely to support their game modes compared to the one dimensional duellers

<< Comment #67 @ 07:17 UTC, 27 September 2011 >>

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raw - Reply to #53

You sound a little wounded... lost a poll or something recently? It makes sense make people aware of the poll?, this way we can get as much support for the game/mode as possible. People still have to make their own decision which they vote for.

Edited by raw at 07:21 UTC, 27 September 2011

<< Comment #99 @ 10:39 UTC, 17 October 2011 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #67

http://www.qlranks.com/tdm/

<< Comment #100 @ 10:41 UTC, 17 October 2011 >>

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raw - Reply to #99

Thanks for sharing this link.

<< Comment #58 @ 20:28 UTC, 25 September 2011 >>

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SigningOff

ctf!

also: "Would gametype(s) would you prefer to see at this coming DreamHack?"

What!

Edited by plissken at 20:29 UTC, 25 September 2011

14%

<< Comment #61 @ 11:48 UTC, 26 September 2011 >>

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GUArd

everyone one knows, quake = duel from early begining..
But I don't see any problem to have TDM tourneys too.
tdm gametype is a lot different, from my pov it lose a lot of QUAKE stuff, that makes quake so superb. But ofcors tdm adds some new "stuff".
Why tdm CAN be more popular when duel, coz it's required less skill then duel, so who don't like to be owned in duel , picks tdm. Ofcors there is much players who just love tdm and don't like duel.
Anyway, stop war between duelists and tdmers.

<< Comment #63 @ 17:24 UTC, 26 September 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #61

so who don't like to be owned in duel , picks tdm.

Anyway, stop war between duelists and tdmers.

Haha.

Edited by scowl at 17:24 UTC, 26 September 2011

<< Comment #83 @ 11:23 UTC, 29 September 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #63

Ye, I saw what he did there too :D

<< Comment #64 @ 17:43 UTC, 26 September 2011 >>

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kK_Storm - Reply to #61

Luvely flow of thoughts... <3

<< Comment #65 @ 17:50 UTC, 26 September 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #61

everyone one knows, quake = duel from early begining..

i wasnt around back then, but wasnt it the opposite? tdm being really prestigious and duel only becoming the most important mode over the years

<< Comment #68 @ 07:22 UTC, 27 September 2011 >>

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raw - Reply to #65

TDM really was on top of all game modes in the earlier years of Quake3!

Edited by raw at 07:22 UTC, 27 September 2011

<< Comment #73 @ 13:30 UTC, 27 September 2011 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #65

no quake was always duel

but I guess there was a period that tdm was very popular, but I don't think it was at the very start of q3 (at start it was noobs->ffa, good players->duel).

but I don't agree with the:

so who don't like to be owned in duel , picks tdm.

if u replace tdm with CA or FFA, then it could hold some truth. tdm, like duel, isn't very popular among the noobs, not in ql at least.

Edited by InDepther at 13:42 UTC, 27 September 2011

<< Comment #87 @ 09:43 UTC, 30 September 2011 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #65

it was always duel, tdm peaked at ec3.

<< Comment #71 @ 10:53 UTC, 27 September 2011 >>

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Gandhi - Reply to #61

You should write moar Sir! Its lovely to read thou.

<< Comment #75 @ 21:49 UTC, 27 September 2011 >>

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abso - Reply to #61

well i think your logic kinda fails cause there are lots of decent duel players that suck in tdm and ctf.

<< Comment #78 @ 17:17 UTC, 28 September 2011 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #61

just to clarify, easily less than 5% of QL's population play duel constantly. It has always been like that and it always will be, including not only pub play but also local and international online tournaments; they just gather more players.

Where I want to go with this is that duel should be included in every event, and that is the gametype that should be advertised as far as e-sports go.
There are plenty of team-based games, but QL is the only currently developed game (lol) that features duel as a main gametype. It's the edge that this game has over the others, and the only reason why it's still featured in LAN events even when it's unpopular.

I have never been a duel player myself, since I've always liked team games the most, but watching duel (and COOLLER) is better than nothing.

<< Comment #92 @ 02:12 UTC, 12 October 2011 >>

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vedic - Reply to #78

SCBW/SC2 are duel games.

<< Comment #70 @ 09:41 UTC, 27 September 2011 >>

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chumbo

http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/2011/09/22/quak...eathmatch/

<< Comment #72 @ 11:46 UTC, 27 September 2011 >>

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duumed - Reply to #70

YES

<< Comment #74 @ 14:57 UTC, 27 September 2011 >>

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ins

cu ctf

<< Comment #76 @ 15:33 UTC, 28 September 2011 >>

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z4t01

quake has always been primarily about 1v1, in my opinion. but, that doesn't make TDM or CTF any less awesome.

personally, i'd like to see

1) duel
2) TDM (noctis pwning noobs)
3) CTF if possible (nothing like a good jap castles match with multiple players 60%+ rail... makes the flag caps all the sweeter)

<< Comment #77 @ 16:49 UTC, 28 September 2011 >>

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megaman3

duel is a must since it's the main reason why top players attend to these events.

Rapha, cooller, etc. stand no chances against noctis or tox's teams; financially it's just not a good idea to attend only for tdm, and sponsors wouldn't be attracted to finance that trip (or even their career if the next event doesn't include duel as well, considering there will be only 3 every year from now on).
On the other hand, the noctis and tox aren't contenders to take the duel tournament, but would attend to play tdm even without prize money or if duel isn't there.

Edited by -=AvengeR=- at 16:59 UTC, 28 September 2011

<< Comment #79 @ 17:54 UTC, 28 September 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #77

Rapha, cooller, etc. stand no chances against noctis or tox's team

that's just not true, the teams of both of them were able to win a map against noctis' team.

Edited by scowl at 17:55 UTC, 28 September 2011

<< Comment #84 @ 11:42 UTC, 29 September 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #79

but not vs tox team :D

<< Comment #80 @ 20:23 UTC, 28 September 2011 >>

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Ryan2015

FreezeCTF !

<< Comment #81 @ 20:33 UTC, 28 September 2011 >>

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z4t01

if they increased the TDM prize compared to duel, i almost guarantee that the current top duelers would move to TDM and given enough time we'd see a slew of new duelers that are better than the current top.

and then we introduce the 1v1 CA leagues... bwahahahah

<< Comment #86 @ 08:36 UTC, 30 September 2011 >>

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gooda

Only tdm ?

http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/esport/

<< Comment #88 @ 10:14 UTC, 30 September 2011 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #86

naaa ... will be like shooting themselves in the foot

I am confident they will have duel as well, if not more (that would be a nice suprise), but tdm will be the main event

<< Comment #91 @ 15:12 UTC, 30 September 2011 >>

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ffx - Reply to #86

Hope not, I'll be their prolly and if there is only tdm I will be really pissed :(. Gonna watch sc2 then -_________-

<< Comment #89 @ 13:11 UTC, 30 September 2011 >>

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zar4

suprising results really, can't see how TDM could ever be more enjoyable to watch than duel personally

<< Comment #93 @ 23:18 UTC, 12 October 2011 >>

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slux

Having TDM replace duel must be just a bad joke. TDM has got none of the things that duel has going for it as an eSport.

It lowers the significance of the great personalities in QL. Having a full team makes it harder to actually support professional play. It's hard to appreciate as someone who doesn't play and know how the game works. Watching the TDM this year was a pretty boring experience for the most part for me.

Well, I guess FPS duel is pretty weak right now anyway, I really hope it will come back as it is the gametype I love but watching the other duel, SC2, the difference in how many players could support themselves by playing is unbelieveable. I guess QL just happened to lose in this great lottery. If only those koreans had not had motion sickness from FPS (asian stereotype) and built their pro gaming on Q3 instead...

<< Comment #94 @ 02:23 UTC, 13 October 2011 >>

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vedic - Reply to #93

Actually, for casual play, Koreans play Special Force more than Starcraft, and it's basically just a total ripoff of CS. They have major tournaments for it, as well, but it's simply not as big of a professional game.

<< Comment #95 @ 09:24 UTC, 13 October 2011 >>

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ischju

i used to play tdm for a decade and I made a slow transition to play duel. however, because I play duel now, I find that duel tournaments are much more interesting than tdm is. I usually "know" how it ends when the good teams play tdm against another. In duel its often harder to predict because the skill cap is closer. This is why it is so exciting imho.

plus, duel is a lot easier to follow. but tdm has also its perks: it is very easy to digest, its fun if you see an awesome quad run and it makes you want to play (: and for someone who does not play quake at all, I guess tdm is more beginner friendly than duel. also you will probably understand more - duel can be quite complex when the big boys play :D

<< Comment #96 @ 11:00 UTC, 13 October 2011 >>

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limity

duel tdm
and wanna see noctis so tdm should be in

Edited by limity at 11:01 UTC, 13 October 2011

<< Comment #97 @ 17:23 UTC, 16 October 2011 >>

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Anonymous (62.163.45.41)

only tdm would be crap..

i wanna see whos the best player :(

<< Comment #98 @ 17:44 UTC, 16 October 2011 >>

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per1klez

Hopefully DH comes to their senses and throws out quake all together. Sick of this POS game and its community getting attention.

<< Comment #101 @ 12:51 UTC, 17 October 2011 >>

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meh_

I miss CTF tbh

<< Comment #102 @ 13:38 UTC, 19 October 2011 >>

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Emp^y

Is dreamhack ever going to announce tdm ? only like what? a month away and still no announcement!

<< Comment #103 @ 14:03 UTC, 19 October 2011 >>

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BlaD3 - Reply to #102

They announced it will be TDM already, just not the prize money yet. Teams are already forming and practicing though.

Edit: Here's the link -> http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/esport/

Edited by BlaD3 at 14:07 UTC, 19 October 2011

<< Comment #104 @ 14:15 UTC, 19 October 2011 >>

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xou - Reply to #102

"Now talking in #DreamHack.Quake

Topic is 'DREAMHACK WINTER 2011 TEASER: http://youtu.be/PN7UCDhrJbs?hd=1 :: Announcement in ~2 days :: IF you have a team READY for DHW, msg blazeh or slayzah '

Set by blazeh on Mon Oct 17 17:03:44"

I guess today is the day they announce something

<< Comment #105 @ 10:26 UTC, 26 October 2011 >>

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_gory

Please add an EYE to EYE King of the Hill tournament @ DH!

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