Mine hasn't changed, was 60 before and it's 60 now.

mine too, +10

*fu censorship*

oh dear

<Mandatory "it's a feature" comment.>

+ 20 here ffs
now i have to play with ping 70 (sux)

+15 and warp

some players argues that warping and/or high pings make you "unhittable", so that should be a benefit.

I hope everyone argues that warping makes you unhittable, otherwise I might be playing a different game.

Anyway - the warp was temporary, ping is still +15.

what about the fact that lagging/warping generates a great aim decrease?
are you saying that lagging/warping is an overall advantage?

Depends on players, but generally good players get mad at warped ones cause you cant hit shit and see many matrix style moves. But the warped one may not notice a big change and can hit the non warped player normally.

I think a little warping does not make you unhittable nor decreases the enemies accuracy hugely. Back when I had a decent connection and played against warping enemies, I hit the same, but raged immensely when I lost, because I felt betrayed, but in fact, the enemies warping had no real affect on my aim. The human brain fills in the gaps in the enemy players model, which are caused by the warp anyways. If you lagg a bit, it is just annoying for the enemy to aim, because it looks awful, but I don't think it affects the outcome of a game. But nowadays I don't see any warpers at all. And maybe my view is biased, because I myself lagg and it does not affect myself in any ways, only the enemy a bit - I can't change it, and always am pissed off, when players only talk about my warp, when they lose. Over all I'm gratefull, that there are players, who play against me at all (warp sure is annoying for the enemy); but again I don't think it affects the outcome of a game by a remarkable factor.

I'm playing with timenudge -20 and models are warping so my brain is used to it, but hitting real warper is harder and more annoying, you can't get used to it because it's random.

If you warp all the time you're used to it and there would be no aim decrease, but on the flipside the more the enemy hits the less you hit. For instance if you're in a shaft battle and you warp the enemy might hit some lg but if it's not enough to exert a proper knockback you're going to be hitting more because you don't need to correct as much. Also aiming is limited in a certain timeframe, whereas dodging is a continous process. So yes I think warping could be considered an advantage in some cases, but not all.

+9
= horrible 22 ping now! ;D

some germans ping better to nl now than to de o.0

Happened to alot of people it seems, lets hope they sort it out.

i hope , if not i stop playing quake , ping 70 (sux)

Tbh with current smoothness it doesn't feel bad at all.

no? plasma is unhittable so is shotgun.

Fucking wierd, Used to ping 80+ from Israel and today its been 68ish, hope they don't change anything =p

Still playing with 45-50 ping :).

I cant even connect.

Went from around 50 to 70+ ping.

sponge was saying the servers are probably overloaded. The new update made a lot of people start playing apparently :D

free premium ofc! :D

+10 here :(

<Drayan> it's a coincidence, nothing to do with the update
<sponge> germany servers haven't changed or were even rebooted, just the quake live stuff was restarted
<Drayan> afaik pings only changed this morning, 12 hours after the update

it's a feature, weird says now we will all be best players

sure, i heard high ping kinda aims for you

cl_autotimenudge 1 does
lg is like i'm playing edawn

you should go to play poker then

Went from 49 to 60. Other two locations I prefer to use (Paris and Amsterdam) left unaffected (around 57 ping to both).

+10 here as well :c

Went from 30 to 60-100.

I'm back to 30 now! \o/

yeah +15 here

+10 from italy

+4-5ms here. Very small but still noticeable change.

From Netherlands with xs4all.

+15-20 horrible ms here :\.

+20ms : /

i sold my pc for weed, glad i'm not playing now=)

pretty long four twentyyyh huh?

Thanks for sharing this vital information about weed on a thread about ping increase.

= D

good deal, enjoy

+15 ms here. feels kinda laggy aswell

+10 and laggy

+12 ms, Slovenia (Turnsek Cable) :/

From Lithuania, ping still same.

Fuck +10, my shit went up from ~65 to a solid +80, going as high as 90 sometimes.
Friend of mine who's been dueling with me for years has had ping 35, now he's pinging 75-80 on DE.

I'm not gonna say it's because of the update, but shit is really messed right now.

+20ms
+ massive rage because i thought the problem is from my side, reinstalling almost everything :(

+20ms and feels unsmooth

I experienced the same issue from Switzerland to Frankfurt: +15-20 ping. Cannot be coincident.... I mean probably something went wrong. (?!?)

+10ms to ping 25 now :(

i used to have 9 in frankfurt, wtf.

Let me show you the way to the door, Sir.


:(

also +10ms to france, now 35ms :C .nl and .uk didn't change for me.

I want to cut tiny little shallow cuts on your torso and arms and rub them with citrus fruits, salt and chilies.

did you try ql servers after the update?
buddy from Israel had his ping halved..

nope not yet
but I'm on a wireless provider at the moment, so I'll not be in with a decent connection for at least 1 month if not 2.

my ping went up 35ms to 70ms on de; on nl from 50ms to 70ms. On all the other locations my ping is still the same oO

Poland can't into space, rest of Europe can't into Frankfurt.

Same ping - haha.

From 30ms to 55ms and they are laggy as hell for me :(

Now we need someone who knows his thing to assume what happened. Looks like it's DE-CIX routing related, don't think it's "server load" as sponge explained but who knows?

Doubt it has anything to do with quakelive update, routing is changed sometimes for god knows that reason.

Ye, I have had 45-50 now I'm on 65-70 and I live fucking 20km away from the Frankfurt server-location. What could have happened?!

try a traceroute, I live in denmark and I remember playing quake on a danish server that routed me trough moscow.

Ping dropped to 55 today.

from 20 to 35-40

Start with:

tracert <ip of server>

See if the difference is related to some hop in particular, maybe some big ISP router has problems and is slowing traffic? Or maybe a route change that added some hops?

That was the first thing i've checked and routes were the same, de-cix link has problems :(

its sweet. I had 65-70, Now I have 45-50, god damn time they fixed that. My ping in other games are 40 to .de..

Tracert from July 20th 2011 (had this one saved from the time i got cable):

6 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms 188.64.105.5
7 18 ms 16 ms 15 ms 188.64.104.57
8 28 ms 30 ms 31 ms decix.link11.de [80.81.192.218]
9 32 ms 27 ms 29 ms quakelive-hosted-by.i3d.net [91.198.152.121]

Now:

5 9 ms 11 ms 9 ms 188.64.105.5
6 28 ms 26 ms 28 ms 188.64.104.57
7 28 ms 27 ms 26 ms 188.64.104.82
8 42 ms 36 ms 44 ms 10ge.de-cix.i3d.net [80.81.194.107]
9 45 ms 43 ms 36 ms quakelive-hosted-by.i3d.net [91.198.152.121]

So i guess routing changed a bit over night (with May 1st) for a lot of providers and will probably stay this way :/
I find it kind of weird tho, mine is basically the same except i have 10ms higher on avg.

yea mine goes thru 10ge.de-cix.i3d.net as well and pretty sure that before there was another DE-CIX link instead of this one. Good thing is that VPN still pinging ok.

Learn to play at high ping, noobs :D

define high.

Over 80ms and it's not fun to play at.

30+

fuck you sir.

I got from 60 to 40, better routing to germany for me!

I know some people that get better ping after update too. We just need to figure out what happened. Why can't id contact server admins, they don't know how important DE location to all european players?

Obviously not... :/

What would they tell them anyway? "Huh, hi. Some of our players recently got a better ping to your servers and some a worse. kthxbye"

anything below 130 is fun.

I too ping higher on De after update :( with lag and warp :(

+5-8ms here

it's fine now. :d

The servers seem to be extremely fucked up. Last night I was able to play 4 games with my usual 45-52 ping while my opponent got some weird ping-spikes. Today I get 92 ping to german servers. Srsly wtf is this shit?!

+15 ping and feels kinda laggy.

Still 6-10 ms to .de, no change. Btw. I live in Frankfurt.

+15-20 here

75 ping is terrible, poor cypher boy

who care about cypher ?

His parents...maybe

Cables fixed for me so i ping 30 in DE again :-)

I stopped playing ql because I only ping under 60 to two locations in the us. in cpma i ping under 60 to all locations..

chi 24 cpm 85 ql
tor 35 cpm 45 ql
nyc 50 cpm 75 ql
tx 45 cpm 80 ql
la 60 cpm 110 ql

theres no cpm va server that i know of, and i ping 50 there in ql.

:\

welcome to my world mofos :D

didnt change at all, still fucked up since i changed my inet speed :D

bleh.

Yeah, not going ok.

One guy pasted on official forum:

email from support:

Hello,

Thank you for your message.

We are aware of some routing issues which affect a number of our players and are in talks with our server ISP to get this worked out as quickly as possible.



we can just hoping ...

30 before update, 60-65 now... thing is it feels even worse then 60, and it spikes aswell so it's pretty much unplayable.

telemach? I have to use vpn via telekom fiber to play no more than 50 ping. Stone age ...

T-2... I've been thinking about proxys aswell if they don't fix this...

Try http://incloak.com/ VPN, they have 24h trial and most of their servers don't lag at prime time unlike most other VPNs. And it's the cheapest one, cost me around 35$ for a year!

It went back to normal for me. The laggy feeling is gone aswell

+4 today
I hate ID

Are servers fucked up again or what? Had 40 ping yesterday, now it's 70+ at German servers. Fuck! :|

had 60 before now its finally back to 40 like it should be.

So what's up, I wanted start playing again after 2 months of not touching the game, and I got +30 ping to .de (from 34ms) and +35 ping to .nl (from 40ms)

Anything happened with servers? :s

i3d, thats whats up. My ping anywhere to germany except to those cheap ass servers is 20-30ms, i3ds routing adds +20. And as for french servers, 40ms avarage, i3d servers around 75 (checked MTR, I am being rerouted to Madrid before reaching France, good job).
You can give it a try and email them, I was lucky some time ago (this problem seems to be reocurring) and they fixed it for like 6 months. Tried the same again several weeks ago, took them a month to reply and after some rage emails, a fag from sales dpt. (?!) told me they cant do jack shit about it.
Well, I hope one of the upcoming features is having another server provider for ql.

+20 for me, so i can duel only in fr :/

Dunno guys, for me it either 160ms or 50 with shit lags :S

just went up today to 150 ping on de and nl servers... :Xx
and it was btw: 40-45-50 days ago, and 60 with terrible constant lags now and then from yesterday evening to today's morning... :<<

used to be 20, then 50-60, since 2 weeks 30-40

same, though i had better pings to start with :p

From 40-50 to +70 and rockets feeling is >100ms, like playing Q2

I ping 103!!!
(From North America)

One day I have 35 ping on de / 40 nl and the other day 60 / 65. It's totally fucked up :S

my ping is banans on .de and .nl atm, spiking like shit

i had ping 14 2 months ago now 40.

2 years ago:
PL - 30, DE NL FR SE - 55 (stable)

untill now:
PL - 50, DE NL FR SE - 80 (at least stable)

after last update: :(
PL - 70-90, DE NL FR SE - 100-120 (variating + one big warp)

I am going to quit my fav game because of that, it's no more playable :((

id rather be interested in why is that i get spiked on DE (where i have arguably the lowest ping, that is 35 usually and 55 peak time, although i dont ping over 65 to anywhere in europe except ukraine) with an eventual microstuttering every 1-1,5mins.

this is exclusive for DE server, dont experience the same on NL, ITA, UK, whatever... and lol @ some guy in this thread pinging 68 from israel, that is an another continent ffs! is this server even in germany??

...and back to horrible again. ping to .de went from 9 to 15 to 25 over the years to 48 (again) since the last update. i also experience lots of stuttering and lag on .de and .nl.

this is not exactly what i want as a paying customer :C