Get the zowie am

avoid razer abyssus by all costs

I've heard some bad things about the click resistance and scroll wheel on the AM. Is the resistance annoying on either? I like a scrollwheel with little resistance I can spam commands on like the deathadder.

I've eliminated Xornet and EC1/EC2.

That leaves:
Storm Spawn
Abyssus
Roccat Savu
Zowie AM

Why do you not like Abyssus?

bad sensor perfomance on 99% of the mousepads

if the you get lucky ti get a good sensor, the built quality is so shit that the mouse1 will break anyway.

Get the zowie am and you will only thank us afterwards

Zowie AM bro -__-

What do you think of Roccat Savu vs Zowie AM?

this is the first time i read of the savu in particular, but i have never heard good of roccat mice from anybody who knows what he's talking about

iirc tourist liked the roccat kova after he sawwed the back off.

The Savu is good (actually very good, even weight-wise). The shape is preference though.

don't think just get am it's the best mouse on market atm

STAY AWAY FROM ROCCAT. I have bought stuff from them, everything was shit.

I agree, am is the only mouse i found that can replace the 3.0.

comfort varies with gripstyle.

he said claw.

all these mice are pretty close sensor perfomance wise, just pick one with a more suitable shape which is personal preference

How should WE know what's comfortable for YOU?

why not kana (wmo shape)

This. Though, buttons are a bit too stiff.

Is the gap next to the side button annoying?

abyssus

put your abyssus deeply inside your hairy ugly ass, as deep as possible please

"Razer Abyssus - Perfect Tracking"

What about the Steelseries Sensei Raw? The shape is good and sensor is good except maybe the 5% acceleration at high speeds.

Well... it's big, heavy, expensive and it has accel. Other than that it's a good mouse.

I don't find it heavy at all. Also, accel? Really? I haven't experienced any of this :l

What about roccat lua?

For clawgrip I find logitech g100 the most comfortable, although I have never tried the WMO.

But I have actually looking for something slightly larger as it's getting uncomforatble to hold with my 20cm hands.

Mice I have tried:
deathadder(one issue for me with this mouse is that the skin of my thumb(flexor pollicis brevis) gets under the mouse when i shuffle.
abby(stilll have, i don't like the fact that its flat in the front and doesn't come down in the front like other i.e. less ergonomic. Also the edges are
ss kinzu(returned rightaway)
ss kana(returned rightaway)
g9x too heavy(even with all the weights out)
g400/mx510 too heavy and crap for claw grip
cm storm spawn(crap shape)
hmm....probably forgetting some.

I do find that logitech mice have the best built quality of all the brands i have tried tho, at one point i used mx300 for over 4 years.

Anyway do consider the g100, but you will have to buy it on ebay from korea($30) and I wouldn't even try it without mouse feet replacements(also ebay).

wmo

wmo is nice, but you can only get it from the US or China and the mouse wheel has problems.
You could also try a salmosa if you have girly hands. I lack information on it though other than Av3k used it.

I use it too for about a year now and it's awesome. : )

wmo is nice, but you can only get it from the US or China

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http://allegro.pl/myszka-microsoft-intellimou...131082.htm

Ive read quite a few negative opinions on Abyssus around here, but I have to say Im really happy with the mouse. The shape is great, no issues - and Im saying that despite Im a horrible sensitivity freak.

Dont install the razer drivers tho. Really no need for them.

just tried the Roccat Kone Pure few weeks ago, it think it's a very good mouse to use the claw way. not to heavy, not to big, and the sensor felt pretty good too, very similar to the g9x laser maybe even better.

Stay away from the xornet. The sensor is pure shit. I managed to play a little with it, by messing around with the settings : first you need a plain black or white pad, 1000 or 500 dpi, and use the v51 or v70 firmwares only. This way the negative acceleration kicks in at ~1.5 m/s. Any other setting is worse.

In the end I prefered to go back to my trusty g400. But the shape is so great though. Never tried the spawn, so you might give it a try.

zowie am is awsome , if you can handle the slanted sides.