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Studying overseas (108 comments)

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Posted by mkeiy @ 20:48 CDT, 31 May 2007 - iMsg

Sup,

I'm currently researching destinations where I would like to study next year. The two countries I am starting with are Sweden and the Netherlands.

At the moment the uni's I'm looking at are:
1) Utrecht University (Netherlands)
2) Tilburg University (Netherlands)
3) Jonkoping University (Sweden)
4) Linkoping University (Sweden)

There are others I am considering but I am still unsure if my Uni (Macquarie, Sydney) has relations with them or not (uni of Stockholm/Amsterdam etc).

The reasons I am looking at these two countries is that they are listed as two of the english speaking uni's in europe. and also because I really want to visit them :)

What I am wondering is anyone here currently enrolled at any of these uni's or lives in/near them? Just want some general info about the lifestyle etc :)

thanks for any info left in this journal!

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<< Comment #1 @ 21:36 CDT, 31 May 2007 >>

By

zkyp

Utrecht is a nice place, that's for sure :P much better than Tilburg imo

Edited by zkyp at 21:36 CDT, 31 May 2007

<< Comment #4 @ 22:48 CDT, 31 May 2007 >>

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mkeiy - Reply to #1

Any particular reasons man?

<< Comment #50 @ 13:55 CDT, 5 June 2007 >>

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danny - Reply to #4

hes from utrecht.. thats my guess :p

<< Comment #53 @ 17:58 CDT, 5 June 2007 >>

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zkyp - Reply to #50

I just moved here :D

<< Comment #2 @ 22:02 CDT, 31 May 2007 >>

By

rolf

English speaking uni's? I think most uni's in europe got lectures in english and generally everyone is capable of speaking english.

<< Comment #3 @ 22:48 CDT, 31 May 2007 >>

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mkeiy - Reply to #2

I am aware of that, I'm not quite sure why they are grouped like that but they are.

<< Comment #107 @ 04:37 CDT, 7 August 2007 >>

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borda - Reply to #2

not in italy :\

<< Comment #5 @ 22:50 CDT, 31 May 2007 >>

By

mkeiy

Also a question for a Swede, I've gone and had a look at a currency converter and how exactly are things priced in Swe?

1.00 AUD

=

5.72993 SEK
Australia Dollars Sweden Kronor
1 AUD = 5.72993 SEK 1 SEK = 0.174522 AUD

How much would a bottle of coke be etc? Just trying to sort it out :p

<< Comment #8 @ 01:18 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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luKrek - Reply to #5

50cl? ~3 aud

<< Comment #9 @ 01:19 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #5

33 cl costs like 10-15 SEK depending on where you buy it. a lunch costs about 50-70 depending on where you eat :)

<< Comment #19 @ 08:48 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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slash - Reply to #9

50SEK is pretty expensive for a lunch (after converting to my currency)
my lunch usually costs 10SEK

<< Comment #24 @ 10:45 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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fojji - Reply to #19

I would recommend Link�ping.

<< Comment #28 @ 16:47 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #19

where do you live? thailand?

<< Comment #35 @ 00:54 CDT, 2 June 2007 >>

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slash - Reply to #28

malaysia

<< Comment #36 @ 06:44 CDT, 2 June 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #35

ok then yours is cheap, mine is normal ;D

<< Comment #34 @ 22:04 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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becks - Reply to #19

if expenses are your main concern you should definately go for the netherlands. However, if you want to finish a lot of clases in 6 month go to Sweden (at least that's the rule of thump in Germany)

But if you want to go partying alll te time both countries have their advantages, ;)

<< Comment #75 @ 11:14 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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tzz - Reply to #9

What the fuck? You mean between 5 and 7 euros for a lunch?

I thought prices in Sweden were high, but I couldn't even find a place to have lunch for less than 10 euros here.

And you still get the high salaries, I'm going to illegally inmigrate there.

<< Comment #78 @ 18:37 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #75

well, uh, no, not really. euro is currently at 6-8kr/eur somewhere and you have to pay 50-70 SEK for lunch depending on where you go. so its a bit more than 5 euro :)

<< Comment #6 @ 23:30 CDT, 31 May 2007 >>

By

Anonymous (vpn.lse.ac.uk)

london school of economics and political science

<< Comment #7 @ 01:17 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

By

luKrek

we have quakers in sweden. and bbb
nuff said?

<< Comment #61 @ 11:45 CDT, 3 August 2007 >>

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Shrike - Reply to #7

bbb ?

<< Comment #84 @ 07:51 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #61

bredbandsbolaget, swedish ping 0 broadband provider :>

<< Comment #85 @ 11:08 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Shrike - Reply to #84

aha .. thanks

<< Comment #10 @ 05:30 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

By

Lukas

I've studied at Utrecht University. It's quite a nice city and a good university. When you decide to go there, make sure you allready know where to stay. It's quite hard to find a roof over your head :p Wouldn't be surprised if it's easier for you tho, because they're really open to foreign students.
Tilburg is ok too (the city, dunno about the uni), but Utrecht is a better location. Bigger and right in the middle of NL.
What do you plan to study btw? :) And for how long, one year?

And make sure you buy a bike (you point, they steal :p) for a few euros.
Well, just msg or mail me your questions ;)

<< Comment #15 @ 06:52 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #10

you point, they steal :p

WTF? this doesn't happen in my third world country.. ur imigrants are ruining the country :/

<< Comment #20 @ 09:26 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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Lukas - Reply to #15

I won't go into detail about the kind people that do that shit....
It does happen at certain places at certain times, but fortunately a lot of people are decent enough not to use their 'service'. A lot of bikes are being stolen though and second hand bikes are not that expensive, so there's quite a 'trade' going on :p

<< Comment #31 @ 17:24 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #20

hahahahahaha :)

<< Comment #39 @ 06:39 CDT, 4 June 2007 >>

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Lukas - Reply to #31

Zeg niet dat het niet waar is :p

<< Comment #40 @ 16:43 CDT, 4 June 2007 >>

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rzr - Reply to #39

your right :)

<< Comment #43 @ 17:22 CDT, 4 June 2007 >>

By

MarzenGold - Reply to #39

als leuns :)

<< Comment #44 @ 01:16 CDT, 5 June 2007 >>

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Lukas - Reply to #43

Ik kom de hele maand augustus naar SA, dus pas maar op met die grote mond ;P

Edited by Lukas at 01:19 CDT, 5 June 2007

<< Comment #45 @ 04:33 CDT, 5 June 2007 >>

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deotrip - Reply to #44

wicked i can read & understand dutch :P

<< Comment #46 @ 06:28 CDT, 5 June 2007 >>

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Lukas - Reply to #45

Prove it! :p

<< Comment #47 @ 08:51 CDT, 5 June 2007 >>

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deotrip - Reply to #46

Ik kom de hele maand augustus naar SA, dus pas maar op met die grote mond

im coming in august to south africa, better watch your big mouth

something like that

<< Comment #48 @ 09:07 CDT, 5 June 2007 >>

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Lukas - Reply to #47

Very nice :D

<< Comment #49 @ 12:35 CDT, 5 June 2007 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #48

So where are going in South Africa?

<< Comment #51 @ 15:19 CDT, 5 June 2007 >>

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Lukas - Reply to #49

Landing in Joburg, first week we're going to Blyde River Canyon and Kruger. The second week we'll be visiting my uncle in Queenstown and the last two weeks we're traveling down the eastcoast to Cape Town and fly back from there.
Suggestions are welcome! :p We plan on renting a car for four weeks btw and probably will be sleeping in B&B or affordable hotels. Last holiday before I start working for good, so I have to make it count! :D

<< Comment #54 @ 18:29 CDT, 5 June 2007 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #51

Sounds like a awesome trip, I have never been to the canyon but from pictures that ive seen it looks amazing. The Kruger is an experience no one can afford to miss.
Just a tip, when hiring a car with intentions to go to the kruger i recommend one where you can sit as high as possible, because small bushes next to the road can sometimes block your view.

<< Comment #55 @ 01:05 CDT, 6 June 2007 >>

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Lukas - Reply to #54

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. Thanks for the advice, I'll see what cars I can hire for a reasonable price ;)

<< Comment #68 @ 05:41 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #20

sounds like dutchies to me

<< Comment #16 @ 07:17 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

By

mkeiy - Reply to #10

I am currently doing a bachelors degree (Bachelor of Arts) heavily into the social sciences (sociology/anthropology/philosophy)

Edited by mikey`` at 07:18 CDT, 1 June 2007

<< Comment #11 @ 05:56 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

By

Dird

www.aston.ac.uk o;
its like a little village

why would you want to go to sweden :/ warmth t-b-h

Edited by Dird at 06:00 CDT, 1 June 2007

<< Comment #12 @ 05:58 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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Ignignokt - Reply to #11

But it's in fucking Birmingham?

<< Comment #21 @ 09:50 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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Anonymous (vpn.lse.ac.uk) - Reply to #11

aston is the biggest pile of shit ever.

<< Comment #22 @ 10:25 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #21

shut it quasi

<< Comment #26 @ 11:52 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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Anonymous (cpc2-port3-0-0-cust991.cos2.cable.ntl.com) - Reply to #21

I fully agree

<< Comment #13 @ 06:08 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

By

what do you plan on studying .... i can offer you some advice on india if you even think about it ....:)

<< Comment #14 @ 06:30 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

By

I know its not what you want but here is my campus in western cape za, more here

<< Comment #41 @ 17:10 CDT, 4 June 2007 >>

By

deotrip - Reply to #14

im jealous! :P

<< Comment #56 @ 06:25 CDT, 3 August 2007 >>

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tourist - Reply to #14

bunch of nice white people in a nice white place.

<< Comment #57 @ 07:12 CDT, 3 August 2007 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #56

You trying to make a point or something?

<< Comment #59 @ 09:01 CDT, 3 August 2007 >>

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primax - Reply to #57

maybe he expected black people since it's africa

<< Comment #76 @ 12:58 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #59

Its probably a fair expectation, however we are a very diverse country and at our university lectures are 50/50 English and Afrikaans, the later mostly spoken by whites and coloureds, while other universities cater for people who speak other languages(we have 11 languages) such as Xhosa, Zulu etc that is mostly spoken by black South Africans.

<< Comment #100 @ 12:30 CDT, 6 August 2007 >>

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tourist - Reply to #76

isn't english the official language in SA?

<< Comment #101 @ 15:15 CDT, 6 August 2007 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #100

nope, we have 11 official languages and 8 unofficial. iirc, Zulu, Xhosa and Afrikaans is most widely spoken while Afrikaans understood the most. However English is also widely spoken and understood, but under black South African's it can be their 3rd or 4th language.

<< Comment #17 @ 07:44 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

By

Demiurge '

Are you a Roman and want to study in Greece?

<< Comment #18 @ 07:54 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

By

tewic

Some danish university maybe? iirc they've changed everything so all "classes" are in english now.

<< Comment #23 @ 10:26 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

By

xoji

Holland. Think about the drugs and sex not edumacation.

<< Comment #25 @ 11:06 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

By

TUMULT

Jonkoping 4tw.

<< Comment #27 @ 11:56 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

By

Liefje

To be honest, I would much rather live in the Netherlands and attend a University there than in Sweden. I've been looking at UVA too and it looks really nice. The lifestyle in NL is different to that in Sweden and there is a shitload more to do in NL. Dutch people have a totally different mentailty than Swedish people. Alcohol is far cheaper in NL and so is food but the living expenses are a little higher.

For the University of Stockholm I think that unless your current university has some kind of exchange program with them you will have to take a Swedish test to get in, which means you'll have to be able to speeak Swedish, unless you're doing a masters degree.

Edited by Liefje at 11:57 CDT, 1 June 2007

<< Comment #62 @ 11:47 CDT, 3 August 2007 >>

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Shrike - Reply to #27

Koekjes ftw !

<< Comment #69 @ 05:45 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #27

ok first of all i agree that the netherlands has a different attitude and way of life. but i won't say it's in a good way, it's more the way around. i know about .. uhh.. alot of dutch people and i can honestly say i like maybe one or two of them. the rest is pile of shits. i travelled through the country like 5-6 years ago and it was the most messy place ive ever been to and people were yelling everywhere. it's a very hostile enviroment compared to here :). so if he actually wanna learn something i wouldn't recommend nl. you seem to talk about booze and stuff but why would you study if you just wanna drink and party?

<< Comment #71 @ 06:55 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #69

you hate most people & things though so youre not the best to come to for advice

<< Comment #73 @ 08:55 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #71

i've discussed this with others and they tend ot feel the same way.

<< Comment #74 @ 10:45 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #73

people tend to hang out with people with similar interests/lifestyle
haters dont do well with none haters. we had some cynic in our lesson @ col & just ignored him most the time. eventhough he hung around in our group

<< Comment #77 @ 18:36 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #74

want me to list examples with good/bad acts? ... this is my opinion and i can't see where you're going with this.

<< Comment #83 @ 06:17 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #77

what the fuck are you on about drama boy
just cut yourself

<< Comment #88 @ 11:23 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #83

how nice, when you realise your point wasnt valid you go on with insults. 5th grade all over again!

<< Comment #89 @ 12:17 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #88

no its because you say gay things like good/bad acts
and how many dutch people do you really know? you dont know people from how they are online
you seem to hate most things and therefore my point stands. acts can be listed

<< Comment #91 @ 12:49 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #89

i judge people from what i know, like any sane person would. if you wanna "joke" and act like an idiot that's how i'll think of you. everyone with something except air between their ears understands that. and saying "good/bad acts" is just how i say it, how would you describe how someone acts??????????+++

either you're stupid or you dont wanna understand what im saying here.

Edited by link at 12:50 CDT, 5 August 2007

<< Comment #92 @ 13:45 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #91

points

<< Comment #95 @ 14:08 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #92

ok

<< Comment #79 @ 21:38 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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mkeiy - Reply to #69

Well, it seems very likely at this point that I will be coming to Linkopings :)

<< Comment #80 @ 21:42 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #79

ah nice, some of the ice climbers once studied there i hear ^^.

feel free to im me if you wanna ask anything :)

<< Comment #81 @ 22:49 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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mkeiy - Reply to #80

Will do, I find out for sure on Wednesday so fingers X

<< Comment #82 @ 05:08 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #81

good luck mate :)

<< Comment #106 @ 03:58 CDT, 7 August 2007 >>

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Liefje - Reply to #69

uh where did I mention booze and party?

<< Comment #108 @ 04:39 CDT, 7 August 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #106

Alcohol is far cheaper in NL and so is food but the living expenses are a little higher.

how does that even count in the calculation?

<< Comment #29 @ 16:55 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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fws

Holland sounds better overall, but Sweeden got better girls :P
Maybe Poland? Cheap alcohol, great food, best girls, only connections could be better :P

<< Comment #30 @ 17:23 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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rzr

I live in utrecht my whole life and I must say.. GREAT place!! For students damn one of the best cities..

my opninion might be not too objective but seriously utrecht is much better than tilburgfor students.. everybody would tell ya that!! :)

Netherlands overall very very nice ;)

<< Comment #32 @ 18:45 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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egd

come to sweden for babes! easy choice imo =)

<< Comment #33 @ 19:15 CDT, 1 June 2007 >>

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zealot

amsterdam! i know two people who went there to study and they both loved it. although they didn't get get much studying going on in the end...

<< Comment #37 @ 08:52 CDT, 2 June 2007 >>

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mammon

Utrecht rox.

<< Comment #38 @ 00:37 CDT, 3 June 2007 >>

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wch

Netherlands..

weed. copious amounts of weed.

Sherlock closes yet another case.

<< Comment #58 @ 07:26 CDT, 3 August 2007 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #38

i lol'ed

<< Comment #63 @ 11:47 CDT, 3 August 2007 >>

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Shrike - Reply to #58

hahah me too ;)

<< Comment #42 @ 17:13 CDT, 4 June 2007 >>

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deotrip

holland ofc!

<< Comment #52 @ 16:04 CDT, 5 June 2007 >>

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Just come here mate. Just bring loads of money!

<< Comment #64 @ 11:47 CDT, 3 August 2007 >>

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Shrike - Reply to #52

and whale blubber

<< Comment #66 @ 12:42 CDT, 3 August 2007 >>

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Ignignokt - Reply to #64

Why bring what we have plenty of?

<< Comment #60 @ 11:07 CDT, 3 August 2007 >>

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Fortress

Why not some American or British university? They have much more prestige as far as I know.

<< Comment #65 @ 12:04 CDT, 3 August 2007 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #60

Because they cost an arm and a leg, plus you'd have to live in mordor.

<< Comment #67 @ 15:53 CDT, 3 August 2007 >>

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Fortress - Reply to #65

American schools are super-expensive. I start to feel it.
British ones aren't that expensive..

<< Comment #72 @ 07:01 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #67

aston says �9k a year for class based lessons :f

<< Comment #86 @ 11:09 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Shrike - Reply to #72

Blimey ! It costs less to put your kids through private school ...

<< Comment #87 @ 11:22 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #86

...
thats not a foreign private school and unis dont have a free alternative to have to compete with & are for lower level schooling so its pretty obv

<< Comment #90 @ 12:45 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #87

them fees will shot up me thinks, now they can charge what they like almost with standard fees

<< Comment #93 @ 13:47 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #90

??
standard (uk resident) fees are capped
unis cant charge more than �3070 per year for an undergrad degree but can charge less if they want

dunno the case for foreigners

Edited by Dird at 13:47 CDT, 5 August 2007

<< Comment #94 @ 13:54 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #93

er was under the impression the fee caps didn't exsist anymore?

<< Comment #97 @ 14:30 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Anonymous (ip-89-168-28-118.cust.homechoice.net) - Reply to #94

still exist for undergrads, but some unis are rightly lobbying to have the cap lifted. aston probably isn't one of them, mind.

<< Comment #98 @ 15:08 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #97

ah well didn't know for sure, from just discussing from a freind at work, she pays for her daughter and when I was talking about my fees she mentioned a lot of it had changed and was sure they could charge what they liked along with goverment grants being different now or something?

<< Comment #99 @ 19:19 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Anonymous (ip-89-168-28-118.cust.homechoice.net) - Reply to #98

it's changed a lot over the last few years, so most people bar incoming home students are pretty clueless thus it's best to avoid third party advice on such issues.

<< Comment #102 @ 16:09 CDT, 6 August 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #98

how is she paying for it?
is it not an undergrad? coz theres the student loan for that

<< Comment #103 @ 16:37 CDT, 6 August 2007 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #102

it was based on your parents income, and they had to pay the full price, wasn't eligiable for grants.

student loans are a different thing.

<< Comment #104 @ 17:14 CDT, 6 August 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #103

grants are just given to help with living expenses (and is based on income)

a student loan is given to all and covers the exact amount the course costs. its then paid back weekly when youre on 15k+ a year with 0% interest. student loan isnt based on income

so whats she paying for? just too lazy to apply for it probs

<< Comment #105 @ 17:18 CDT, 6 August 2007 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #104

idiot it's changed, she is like 4/5 years older than you

if i went to uni upon leave college I wouldn't have to had paid for anything, it would have all been free due to my parents income (lower than x amount)

however her parents earned more than x amount thus they/she whatever have to pay the full course amount, which was a far bit since she did a fancy dancy law/crimonolgy thing

as far as I can tell this is now different and depending on the course (courses like: teaching/egineering/language studies can be free/recieve free money for doing them) you are only eligable for so much off regardless of income (I am entitled to a maxium of �700 reduction) etc..

<< Comment #96 @ 14:21 CDT, 5 August 2007 >>

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Dird - Reply to #94

link or lies

<< Comment #70 @ 05:46 CDT, 4 August 2007 >>

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link - Reply to #65

i lol'd, hard.

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