Session Time: Fri Jul 07 00:00:00 2006
[00:01] <kdawg> [TRIAD]wAKKA have you seen socrates yet?
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[00:05] <kdawg> ah lost-cause is on #9
[00:05] <kdawg> had no idea who it was at first
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[00:33] <kdawg> rusky`
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[00:41] <rusky`> ?
[00:41] <kdawg> oh
[00:41] <kdawg> that shit is 10:15 btw
[00:41] <kdawg> not 10:30
[00:42] <rusky`> ah ok
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[00:42] <kdawg> cst
[00:42] <rusky`> i hope someone makes bet fixtures
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[03:09] <kdawg> oh snaps!
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[03:16] <tom``> hello
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[04:13] <FarmerStraw> are there scorebot channels?
[04:13] <FarmerStraw> or a main isc q4 channel?
[04:13] <Levi240> all on the esr post
[04:13] <UFF|Frag> there is this pretty small us irc network
[04:13] <Levi240> 20 scorebot channels
[04:13] <Levi240> on gamesurge
[04:14] <UFF|Frag> Levi240 is right!
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[04:14] <kdawg> uhh, I'm pretty sure that should be 16:15 BST
[04:14] <kdawg> from what I've read
[04:15] <FarmerStraw> 16?
[04:15] <FarmerStraw> nah
[04:15] <FarmerStraw> i think its 17
[04:15] <kdawg> nevermind
[04:16] <kdawg> that shit is in CST
[04:16] <FarmerStraw> ;p

[04:16] <kdawg> in spite of the "all times listed in EDT" or EST or whatever
[04:17] <rusky`> http://demos.wsvgcast.com/IntelSummer-2006/quake/
[04:17] <rusky`> nice.
[04:22] <kdawg> i don't wanna install quake 4
[04:22] <kdawg> it's like 2.5GB
[04:23] <kdawg> hey, who is lust, anyway?
[04:24] <Levi240> no idea never heard of him
[04:25] <kdawg> i wasn't asking you
[04:25] <tom``> that dogs got STYLE
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[04:25] <Levi240> god you are such a miserable git
[04:25] <kdawg> ok
[04:25] <kdawg> so who is lust?
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[04:35] <rusky`> lust
[04:35] <rusky`> ?
[04:35] <rusky`> who
[04:35] <kdawg> he took python to three maps
[04:35] <kdawg> I dunno
[04:35] <iTG`ReDeYe> Lust is Davey Baciocco and competed at CPL winter (top 64)
[04:36] <rusky`> ah
[04:36] <rusky`> did they cast that?
[04:36] <kdawg> no
[04:36] <rusky`> oh a couple other ppl said they were impressed too
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[04:36] <rusky`> i thought maybe they streamed it and he was tearing some shit up
[04:36] <kdawg> i just saw the name and 2-1
[04:37] <kdawg> also he's from the US
[04:37] <iTG`ReDeYe> python is hardly in great shape hiimself tho
[04:37] <kdawg> ya not that great
[04:37] <iTG`ReDeYe> not really a good measurement of the player he beat :/
[04:37] <kdawg> 2-1 against warlock
[04:37] <kdawg> but still, warlock is pretty good
[04:37] <kdawg> that guy's not bad
[04:37] <iTG`ReDeYe> agreed
[04:37] <rusky`> yeah warlock plays a lot
[04:37] <rusky`> etcz might be able to take out dkt tomorrow too
[04:38] <rusky`> dkt has been on his honeymoon and i doubt hes gonna come in with a lot of practice on all the maps
[04:38] <iTG`ReDeYe> dkt spend too much time shagging
[04:38] <iTG`ReDeYe> ^^
[04:38] <rusky`> last i heard etcz was bootcamping with warlock, and LC was even supposed to go there too
[04:38] <rusky`> he should be in good shape
[04:38] <kdawg> good excuse, I guess, considering how he claimed that this was gonna be his tournament back at the uhh winter thing
[04:39] <iTG`ReDeYe> he talks as much rubbish as clock ^^
[04:39] <rusky`> who dkt?
[04:39] <rusky`> lol

[04:39] <iTG`ReDeYe> almost
[04:39] <rusky`> hahaha they're hilarious
[04:39] <rusky`> get them to play eachother
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[04:39] <rusky`> ego overload.
[04:39] <iTG`ReDeYe> i like mark a lot, but he sure does talk a lot of crap
[04:39] <rusky`> but seriously mark is cool
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[04:40] <rusky`> redeye what be your preds
[04:40] <rusky`> for opening round of double
[04:40] <dng`exsorz`mr> 9
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[04:40] <iTG`ReDeYe> ive not looked tbh
[04:41] <iTG`ReDeYe> i kinda gave up on th event after seeing the ridiculous seeds
[04:41] <rusky`> ah
[04:41] <rusky`> http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1130890
[04:41] <rusky`> those are slashers
[04:41] <iTG`ReDeYe> and getting answers like "they wont be changed on hearsay"
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[04:41] <rusky`> they did change some stuff around though
[04:41] <rusky`> atleast we didnt see 2gd and forever in a single elim showdown
[04:42] <iTG`ReDeYe> id agree bar 2 or 3
[04:42] <iTG`ReDeYe> winz > LC
[04:42] <iTG`ReDeYe> clock > purri
[04:42] <Levi240> apparently it was some of the players that done the origional seedings
[04:42] <iTG`ReDeYe> 2gd > ooze
[04:42] <iTG`ReDeYe> i dont believe that
[04:42] <rusky`> yup
[04:42] <iTG`ReDeYe> at all
[04:42] <iTG`ReDeYe> no player would put deus at 79th
[04:42] <Levi240> pretty silly if it is true
[04:43] <iTG`ReDeYe> no player would put rufus in the 50s
[04:43] <rusky`> (i said yup to your preds)
[04:43] <rusky`> heh
[04:43] <iTG`ReDeYe> think about it
[04:43] <iTG`ReDeYe> why would a top player risk playing one of those two
[04:43] * rzer thinks about it
[04:43] <Levi240> maybe they asked some random nub ;)
[04:43] <iTG`ReDeYe> in round 1 singel elim
[04:43] <iTG`ReDeYe> so i dont believe that for a second
[04:43] <iTG`ReDeYe> wsvg hyperbole once more
[04:43] <rusky`> i think forever should beat nomadic though too
[04:43] <iTG`ReDeYe> oh
[04:43] <iTG`ReDeYe> didnt see that one
[04:43] <iTG`ReDeYe> and yes
[04:43] <iTG`ReDeYe> he will
[04:44] <Levi240> forever seems to have sorted himself now
[04:44] <iTG`ReDeYe> :)
[04:44] <iTG`ReDeYe> it was all in the coaching :)
[04:44] <rusky`> redeye whispered something into his ear
[04:44] <rusky`> !
[04:44] <Levi240> idd ;)
[04:44] <iTG`ReDeYe> i coached him through eswc
[04:44] <iTG`ReDeYe> we sat in a bar on thursday
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[04:44] <iTG`ReDeYe> and he starts on me about a column i wrote about his nerves
[04:44] <rusky`> redeye, who was the player who said forever wouldnt make top5 or so
[04:44] <iTG`ReDeYe> so i turn round and says
[04:44] <iTG`ReDeYe> ok
[04:45] <rusky`> and he was like right there
[04:45] <rusky`> and said sure i will
[04:45] <rusky`> lol
[04:45] <iTG`ReDeYe> let me coach u through eswc and i will get u top 4
[04:45] <iTG`ReDeYe> i dunno
[04:45] <iTG`ReDeYe> i cant remember
[04:45] <rusky`> ohk
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[04:46] <rusky`> i hope socrates figured himself out too
[04:46] <rusky`> he hasnt had a quality training partnet
[04:46] <iTG`ReDeYe> he was ok at eswc
[04:46] <iTG`ReDeYe> just didnt light it up
[04:46] <iTG`ReDeYe> but he played solid
[04:46] <rusky`> yeah
[04:46] <kdawg> fazz, immortal, winz, forever, toogoood will probably win
[04:46] <rusky`> when hes on though
[04:46] <rusky`> it's crazy
[04:46] <iTG`ReDeYe> aye
[04:46] <iTG`ReDeYe> i think blue can beat fazz
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[04:46] <iTG`ReDeYe> hes playing some awesome shit at bootcamp
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[04:47] <rusky`> i went with fazz, i saw him play some practice games and he was handily beating mark
[04:47] <iTG`ReDeYe> if immy beats rb that would be a shock tbh, rb has trained hard
[04:47] <rusky`> but then again i have nothing to base blue off of
[04:47] <rusky`> ;
[04:47] <iTG`ReDeYe> blue has been raging garpy :p
[04:47] <kdawg> apparently rocketboy always 'trains' hard but he never does anything
[04:47] <iTG`ReDeYe> true
[04:47] <iTG`ReDeYe> although top 6 last time
[04:47] <rusky`> isnt garpy like 1 map tho
[04:47] <iTG`ReDeYe> was ok
[04:47] <rusky`> hes all galang+rail
[04:47] <iTG`ReDeYe> monsoon hes good too
[04:47] <rusky`> oh
[04:48] <iTG`ReDeYe> and his phrantic game improved a lot
[04:48] <rusky`> rocketboy should beat immortal
[04:48] <rusky`> i saw a practice game they played, before they knew they'd face off in double...he beat immortal 25-20 on monsoon
[04:48] <rusky`> should be close tomorr
[04:49] <rusky`> er, today
[04:49] <rusky`> http://ems.esportsea.com/wsvg/intel/?a=standings&stageid=114
[04:50] <rusky`> lookin at the frags/deaths stats is kinda interesting
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[05:07] <Vo0> hi
[05:07] <rzer> hi
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[05:07] <Vo0> how do i link to my comment
[05:08] <rzer> 2 2 toxic_266 (t. ) 2 0 0 91 -2
[05:08] <rzer> lol?
[05:08] <FarmerStraw> what is that rzer?
[05:08] <FarmerStraw> he win?
[05:08] <rzer> no the points for
[05:08] <rzer> and aggaint
[05:08] <FarmerStraw> oh lol
[05:08] <rzer> aggainst
[05:08] <FarmerStraw> :p
[05:08] <rzer> :)
[05:09] <Vo0> how do i link to my comment on esr
[05:09] <rzer> i dont know sander
[05:11] <SiLenoZ|afk> you mean like this ? http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1131018#pid1131018
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[05:12] <Vo0> yes, like that
[05:12] <ekse> use the recent posts list in your profile
[05:12] <Vo0> hey :p
[05:12] <SiLenoZ|afk> :)
[05:12] <SiLenoZ|afk> what ekse said
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[05:13] <Vo0> thanks
[05:13] <Vo0> http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1131014#pid1131014 !!!!!!
[05:13] <bsk> haha
[05:14] <rzer> yea i read
[05:14] <rzer> who did forever beaet 81-0
[05:14] <SiLenoZ|afk> isc seeds ftw tbh
[05:14] <SiLenoZ|afk> :x
[05:14] <rzer> yea but qho"
[05:14] <rzer> who?
[05:14] <rzer> :P
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[05:16] <Vo0> its just a classic example of fat-changing-seeds
[05:16] <Vo0> i'd be fine with it if fat werent supposed to play winz in round 1
[05:16] <Vo0> but he was
[05:16] <bsk> would love to hear from deus or rufus about this
[05:16] <rzer> yea the magic of the FPO player :/
[05:16] <iTG`ReDeYe> true voo
[05:17] <Vo0> its just very unfair
[05:17] <Vo0> why do top players get treated better
[05:17] <rzer> let's spam the wsvg forum start a thread about it Vo0
[05:17] <Vo0> than semi-top players
[05:17] <iTG`ReDeYe> well not all of them do
[05:17] * iTG`ReDeYe winks at Vo0
[05:18] <Vo0> cause i refused better treatment alot of times
[05:18] <rzer> DUEL_aAawinz(POV)-vs-forever_L4DM2_1_2006-07-06_20-07-43.netdemo
[05:18] <rzer> they played?
[05:18] <bsk> Vo0, you should've found some tourney exec to sleep with and changed things from the inside!
[05:18] <iTG`ReDeYe> pfft
[05:18] <iTG`ReDeYe> he didnt need to, theyd come to him
[05:18] <iTG`ReDeYe> he just isnt corrupt
[05:18] <bsk> corruption for good!
[05:18] <bsk> :)
[05:19] <Vo0> ah well
[05:19] <Vo0> i hope frexus is good :p
[05:19] <bsk> if frexuz wins
[05:19] <Vo0> i wonder how good fpo are on the new maps
[05:19] <bsk> wow, the celebrations
[05:20] <bsk> Vo0: probably better than most, since they didn't attend ESWC
[05:20] <iTG`ReDeYe> frexuz is pretty useful
[05:20] <iTG`ReDeYe> i dunno if he can beat fat tho
[05:20] <iTG`ReDeYe> but its 70/30 in fats favour, so its still possible
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[05:20] <iTG`ReDeYe> the new maps arent as critical now
[05:20] <iTG`ReDeYe> as u can only pick one
[05:20] <bsk> yes
[05:20] <iTG`ReDeYe> and if the guy loses on 1 of them
[05:20] <bsk> but a guaranteed win does help
[05:20] <iTG`ReDeYe> he will eliminate the other one anyway
[05:20] <iTG`ReDeYe> not really
[05:21] <iTG`ReDeYe> look at winz
[05:21] <iTG`ReDeYe> he didnt praccy lost at all
[05:21] <bsk> yes
[05:21] <iTG`ReDeYe> lost all bar one of them
[05:21] <bsk> but that's only one guaranteed loss
[05:21] <bsk> different to having a guaranteed win
[05:21] <iTG`ReDeYe> same as this
[05:21] <iTG`ReDeYe> its the same thing here
[05:21] <bsk> I'm saying the players who practiced the new maps will have an advantage
[05:21] <bsk> it's like only having to win once
[05:21] <iTG`ReDeYe> no more than eswc
[05:21] <iTG`ReDeYe> same as eswc for winz
[05:21] <iTG`ReDeYe> its no different
[05:22] <bsk> there is a subtle difference
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[05:22] <iTG`ReDeYe> no difference
[05:22] <iTG`ReDeYe> lost fleet wasnt praccied by winz
[05:22] <bsk> you're missing my point
[05:22] <iTG`ReDeYe> whoever he played had a guarenteed win
[05:22] <bsk> yes, and if he'd made a mistake on phrantic?
[05:22] <bsk> unlikely, but what if?
[05:22] <iTG`ReDeYe> right
[05:22] <iTG`ReDeYe> same thing here
[05:22] <bsk> my point is
[05:22] <iTG`ReDeYe> he hasnt praccied the new maps
[05:23] <iTG`ReDeYe> so hes gonna lose them
[05:23] <bsk> if you've practised the new maps
[05:23] <Vo0> which animal travels slowly in the air?
[05:23] <bsk> there's less pressure on you to win every other map
[05:23] <bsk> you have more room for error
[05:23] <iTG`ReDeYe> its the same thing
[05:23] <Vo0> no redeye...bsk is right
[05:23] <bsk> it won't make a massive difference, but it does make a difference
[05:23] <iTG`ReDeYe> flying squirrel Vo0?
[05:23] <Vo0> there is alot more stress when u dont know all maps
[05:23] <Vo0> you need to have the feeling of every map
[05:23] <iTG`ReDeYe> yer and they have that
[05:23] <Vo0> in order to get that special feeling you need to PLAY PLAY PLAy
[05:23] <Vo0> if winz didnt praccy the maps
[05:23] <Vo0> there is no chance he will have that feeling
[05:24] <iTG`ReDeYe> he didnt praccy lost either for eswc
[05:24] <iTG`ReDeYe> its the same scenario for him
[05:24] <Vo0> but atleast he still remembered it
[05:24] <bsk> yes, and he nearly lost to cypher because of it
[05:24] <bsk> if he had practised fleet
[05:24] <bsk> he would've won 2-0
[05:24] <Vo0> haha
[05:24] <iTG`ReDeYe> but the point i made was that now we only have 2 new maps
[05:24] <bsk> a lot less pressure
[05:24] <Vo0> are you joking?
[05:24] <iTG`ReDeYe> its not as critical as before
[05:24] <Vo0> cypher is better than winz
[05:24] <bsk> I know, vo0
[05:24] <bsk> I'm peaking hypothetically
[05:24] <Vo0> i am harsh
[05:24] <bsk> *speaking
[05:24] <Vo0> but it's the truth ;)
[05:24] <bsk> the point is
[05:24] <bsk> if winz had won lost fleet
[05:25] <bsk> and went into the second game with a 1-0 lead
[05:25] <bsk> there would've been less pressure
[05:25] <iTG`ReDeYe> and i didnt disagree, i simply said its not as critical now with only 2 new maps
[05:26] <Vo0> er
[05:26] <Vo0> eswc had 2 'new' old maps
[05:26] <Vo0> now you have 2 NEW maps
[05:26] <Vo0> winz HAD the feeling on blip and fleet from before
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[05:26] <iTG`ReDeYe> if it had been 3 maps, the likelihood is, ud have to play 2 of them in a bo3
[05:26] <Vo0> so he could rememember it
[05:26] <bsk> I never said it's absolutely critical, I just said it does have an impact, however small
[05:26] <iTG`ReDeYe> which would hurt
[05:26] <Vo0> there is a difference in playing an old map which you still know but havnet practiced in a while
[05:26] <Vo0> than playing a new map you dont really know
[05:26] <iTG`ReDeYe> im aware :)
[05:26] <Vo0> well then
[05:26] <Vo0> how can you say its the same for winz as it was at eswc
[05:27] <Vo0> its not
[05:27] <Vo0> damn
[05:27] <iTG`ReDeYe> similiar then
[05:27] <Vo0> i am alot more talkative than i was at the poker game :p
[05:27] <bsk> haha
[05:27] <iTG`ReDeYe> u sucked at the poker game
[05:27] <bsk> similar, yes, but that's all I was saying
[05:27] <iTG`ReDeYe> and i sucked more :(
[05:27] <Vo0> man my voice was so messed up
[05:27] <iTG`ReDeYe> i know bsk, we were making mainly the same point from a different angle thats all
[05:27] <Vo0> someone tracert 24.11.187.246
[05:27] <kdawg> <Vo0> which animal travels slowly in the air?
[05:27] <kdawg> the mosquito
[05:29] <Vo0> no no i chose the flying squirrel
[05:29] <bsk> timeout Vo0
[05:29] <bsk> wait
[05:29] <Vo0> yea same here :p
[05:30] <bsk> yeah, timeout
[05:30] <bsk> took me a while to get out of south africa :D
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[15:12] <kdawg> lmao?
[15:12] <FRA|sansai> here
[15:12] <dignitaspLAZMa> lol
[15:12] <dignitaspLAZMa> :))
[15:12] <Jaffy> (20:16:04) (@WSVG|Q4Bot) 0:53: stermy (16) : (10) seriousRufus
[15:12] <Jtm> any bot on forever vs lc map 3?
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[15:12] <kOma^> guess not
[15:12] <Jtm> :(
[15:13] <dignitaspLAZMa> haha Jtm
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[15:13] <dignitaspLAZMa> startin now
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