I'm looking for something to switch _from_ Diamondback 3G (as both my Diamondbacks have the same issue - completely unusable scroll wheel).

Have considered the Steelseries Kana, but it has 1 thumb + 1 pinky, while I use the 2 thumb buttons. I already know pinky buttons are impossible to use in combat, so that leaves me only one thumb button - not enough.

I've bought a Roccat Kova which sounded like the perfect mouse... until it arrived. That thing has a really HARD buttons, absolute mindfuck if you come from a Razer, it will make your brain and your whole arm hurt ;) Half of ESR will tell you "at least you don't press right click by mistake", but they have no clue about playing on high sensitivity and still hitting 40% LG. I gave the Kova to my mom. Very good other than the switches, sensor is great (unless you're anal about having even the slightest prediction), setting without drivers even better. Too bad I can't shoot with it.

I guess we'll have to wait for this http://www.esreality.com/post/2173191/new-gam...velopment/

Zowie AM.

Lovely mouse. Good sensor, really low lift off distance, adjustable DPI without installing drivers, decent mousefeet out of the box.

Highly recommend from my experience; I've come from a WMO -> Xai -> WMO -> Abyssus -> WMO -> Zowie AM. The WMO's keep on breaking for me :'(

Really nice build quality, never had a problem with it skipping etc, absolutely no problems.

Give it a shot, I don't think you will regret it :)

Nice price... I can get 2 Diamondbacks for that, and OP says those are expensive... Plus there are 10 different versions of each Zowie mouse, each bad for one reason or another. Zowie experiments with idiotic rubber sides etc. I wouldn't know how to get a good one, if it even exists.

I bought mine for £30 :)

Just look around.

ZOWIE AM is 450/1150/2300 dpi. I need 1600-1800 as I said. If it wasn't for that I'd probably buy it.

Use a dpi calculator to get the equivalent sensitivity and accel?

http://www.ncts.at/files/sens_accel_calculation.txt

Should I even use accel?

You can't change the sense on the xai so how will I know the old sense? You just change the cpi on that one and nothing else.

Maybe you're talking about Quake. I'm mainly a SC2 player so I don't think that would work for me.

Cmon man, dont let a few numbers get in the way of.using a good mouse :)

Im sure it wont be hard to accurately calculate an equivalent sensitivity for another dpi for Sc2.

If worst comes to worse, just measure it with a ruler....

Its a good mouse worht paying that kind of money for, unlike the xai, which had a dodgy sensor, and mouse buttons that were prone to failure.

Yeah I guess. I just prefer a solid dpi setting because I prefer same sense in both windows and the game so I always runs the game at 50% or the default setting so I have the same sense everywhere, including windows.

If you don't like hard buttons, don't get the AM. Quick way of getting carpal at SC2 APMs.

Oh... I thought the buttons were similar to othe Xai. Thanks for the heads up. I guess I'll have wait for the mouse I previously linked anyway.

The only option I guess right now is a Diamondback from eBay or a EC2 eVo. The only ones that fit my description and only ones that seem good.

EDIT: Nevermind EC2 is the same as AM dpi-wise. I guess it's the Diamondback. Anyone know any major differences between the old and the 3g version except the dpi?

It's importan to note that the Zowie AM is not really 450 dpi etc. In reality it's somewhere between 475 and 485 dpi which is really irritating when you first get it because you have to configure your sens by feel rather than mathematically.

Kana has been alright for me so far.

Anyone knwo the difference between a Diamondback Pro v16 and a regular Diamondback? It's this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826153001

I found one in a local shop but... yeah, is it exactly the same? Why the different name?