There are alot of good Mices, mousepad and so on. I think it is just all about getting used to something, as long as its not really bad things which it shouldnt be.
Play without a mousepad sounsd bad, you need a mousepad to get the smooth and exact mouse movements.

My friend reccomended WHEEL MOUSE OPTICAL 1.1A but the problem is its my brothers pc, and
He likes his fancy laser mouse, logitech rx1500, is that bad? and should I look for diffrent mouse
pads for diffrent fov? My fov is 110. And should I get more slippery mouse pad or not? or it doesen't
even matter? Thanks for Your help.

and about headphones just use any decent one (not $2...). Qlive has terrible positional sound anyways

a good headphones for quake is necessary, good mouse in my opinion ... Microsoft IE3.0 and a nice mousepad for this mouse ... no doubts ... Steelpad qck+ :)

pc350, IME 3.0, qck+

:>

But pc 350 is wery expansive, maybe there's something cheaper?

just get any Sennheiser or beyerdynamic and you'll be fine

Ok thanks for your help. =]

Steel? why steel, I was thinking abaut flat cloth qck.

Steelseries bought, or changed their name from Steelpad.

Either way all the Qck's are cloth.

there are so many setups that work for a top tier players in different fps games, it should tell you that you can do fine with whatever, not total crap, mouse/headphone/pad you get used to.

Any Sennheiser should do the job. I have the PC 350 and they're I'm pretty much happy with them.

I have the Sennheiser PC151s that I use for when I actually need a mic and have had good luck with them.

Your brother's RX1500 is indeed a crappy mouse as it will not take much AT ALL to make it skip. You can have two different mice plugged into a PC and if he really doesn't want it there, you can always just unplug it when you're done. For gaming on a budget, I'd recommend the WMO 1.1, the IE 3.0, the Salmosa, the Deathadder, or the MX518. All are good solid choices of varying shapes and sizes. I'd just find one that fits you comfortably.

As far as mousepad goes I would probably stick with something cloth especially for on a budget. I personally like the Allsop Raindrop XL. QcK+ or similar have been tried and true as well. Cloth generally offers a more consistent aim for the user regardless of how slick the material is because of that little bit of inherent friction. Either way I'd go with a decent size so you don't run out of room or if you decide to start lowering your sensitivity.

Thanks for your advise, I'm thinking of buying WMO 1.1 didn't made my dissision with headphones,
and a qck mouse pad. Oh and I oltmost forgot, how abaut exel? as I said I played since open beta
came, so maybe I should start using it now? Or it doesen't realy matter? Thanks.

Oh and, if I have a widescreen pc? should that effect my dissision what to choose?

no, you can either play widescreen (will stretch your crosshair) or play in 4:3 mode and have black borders. your decision but it won't make much difference anyway.

if by "exel" you meant cl_mouseaccel... if you haven't been using accel until now there's little reason to start unless you're super uncomfortable with your current setup.

[edit] another option for phones: akg dj 518. same price as the sennheiser with better sound quality but no mic. any sennheiser/akg/beyerdynamic around 50-60€ upwards will be fine.

there's the qck+ (flat) and the qck heavy (normal height) for the same price. again your decision.

No I'm pretty good, just that I need mouse pad headphones and new mouse, but that's fixable.
Thanks for your help.

lots of late edits to my last post. sorry :S

gaming on a budget

mouse: 15-35€
ms wmo 1.1a
ms ime 3.0
logitech mx518
logitech g1
razer salmosa

pad: 10-25€
allsop raindrop xl
steelseries qck heavy

phones: 50-60€
sennheiser pc 151
akg 518

...worst case scenario ends up being around 120 euro without a keyboard. proper keyboards are in the 60-150€ range but if you're short on cash i'd go with a cheap cherry. they're around 15-20€.

I dunno, I think my keyboard is fine, maybe its not perfect but I'm not so much of a pro so I think
I'm good with this Logitech Deluxe 250. Am I?

depends on what you define as 'good'. most keyboards out there suffer from the limitations of the usb protocol and insanely stupid design issues.
good keyboards support unlimited keypresses at one time, have no fixed key sequences when several keys are pressed at one time, use mechanical key switches and are rather expensive :)

the cheapest i found that supports all this is the ps/2 version of the cherry g80-3000 which costs around 60€ (Cherry G80-3000LSCDE-2 for german layout).

Just as long as you're not running into ghosting issues with whatever keyset you're using you're fine.

mouse/pad is much more important than keyboard, as long as your keyboard works.

I would advise like that:

Low-End:

Mice: MS Intelli Optical 1.1a for about 20-30€

Mousepad: CM Storm CS-S Battlepad H2 for ~ 6.00€

Headphones: AKG K512 (No Microphone) ~ 30€ or Speedlink Medusa Stereo Gaming Headset ~ 40€

Mid-End

Mice: Razer DeathAdder (Old) ~ 50€

Mousepad: Razer Goliathus Medium 14€

Headset: Mionix Keid 20 (Black or White) ~45€

High-End:

Mice: Razer Copperhead ~70€

Mousepad: CM Storm Battlepad DP ~20€

Headset: SteelSeries 5H V2 ~80€

ProoF?!

Why in the world would you recommend a Copperhead to anyone? Only people who use high sensitivities will be able to use that and for the money you can get a different mouse with better performance that has all those bells and whistles.

Is there a bif diffrence if I choose flat or normal height mouse pad, or it doesen't matter? Thanks.

I'd say choose the flat kind. You don't want to be restricted by your wrist.

for me there was because i couldn't get used to the 'hardness' of the qck+. i guess it depends on your playingstyle and some people apparently love the flatness.

Saitek gaming mouse

http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/rev...g-Mouse/p1

I've tried other "gaming mice" but this one is by far the best imo.

I second Sennheiser for headphones and I have no idea what type of mouse pad mine is (it's the hard plastic kind with a little resistance). I got it in Spain so idk.

Well, as it was said there are countless working combinations, mainly cause people are able to get accustomed to almost everything. An Icemat, IE, and Siberia, are good examples of that. Changing your habits in order to use theoreticaly best combination may not get you any improvements, so what you need to take into consideration when buying equipment is the way you move your mouse, sensitivity, and some ingame preferences. Some mouses will simply force you to play one way or another.

According to my theory a wrist and fingers operating, joined with medium to high sensitivity and hard coarse pad should have an edge. This doesnt mean a player using such will be superior, but in ideal situation with 2 identical perfect players it should play a role.

The only thing I can prescribe right now are cheap Sennheiser HD 457 headphones. As long as you dont require a closed ones, you cant go wrong with them.

mx518 is really cheap nowadays and still works "best" if you're right-handed. IME 3.0 is decent and cheap as well.

Look for a Sennheiser headset and I'm doing just fine on my Roccat Taito mousepad, which I got for ~12€

All in all 25-30 mouse, keyboard max 20, 50 phones and 15 for mousepad ends up like zealot mentioned, roughly 120€ or less.

:\ that's kinda expansive, How much would qck cloth flat, and WMO 1.1 would cost? And are WMO 1.1 are easy to get these days? they're kinda old. Thanks

i believe we really do not have to use google for you. good luck.

You don't I just thought You might know this.

http://www.amazon.de/Steel-Series-95245-Mouse...amp;sr=8-1

15€

http://www.amazon.de/Microsoft-IntelliMouse-O...amp;sr=8-1

18€

ebay will be cheaper though.

that'S the IMO

steelseries kinzu + steelseries qck+

You gave up on the Krait?

soon :P

can u confirm correction/prediction and positive acceleration on the kinzu? also low malfunction speed?

not yet :)

new 1.09 Software fixes +acc

correction/prediction is on and cant be turned off

Kinzu and QcK = Bad
the feet on the kinzu dont glide on the Qck at all, alot of fictions.

[correction/prediction is on and cant be turned off]

exactaim = 0 does not fix this?

Kinzu dosn't come with that feature its only the
Xai and Ikari Laser that supports that feature.

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9813/kinzu.jpg
These are to only 2 screen you get with the kinzu Software.

Ive change my <3 mx510 (1000hz) to deathadder recently and i must say this mouse is incredible. At first i didnt like the shape that much. im a claw-gripper so it feelt to me very slippery but after some time i started to get used to it and now i think there is no better mouse than this. I dont know why but it gaves me that weird feeling when im using it especially when im circle jumping- i think the best word to describe it is dynamic. This mouse is hella dynamic. Every little move of your hand is registered without delay. Im using it at full speed 3500dpi/1000hz combined with largest goliathus speed mat. My system is old ass athlon 64 3000+ but i didnt notice any performance issues. It handles 1000hz polling with no problems while on 510 i used to got some random freezes in game.

My mx300 broke down, it makes the disconnect-connect cycle often when I move it . Probably the cord I guess. Im pretty bummed.

I'm thinking of getting g1 from ebay, didn't find any mx300s.Is there some major differences with mx300 and g1, which one is better etc?

What's the next best thing for claw gripper, is there any good or better alternatives? I'm very much used to the "mx300" shape

mx300 bestest everest

my mx300 is slowly but surely dieing aswell, after 8 years of duty. i might try a wmo1.1a because it looks similar size wise.

Well tried the G1; big buckets of positive acceleration, feels like ice skating :( CPL fix didn't help much

I just bought sennhriser hd 201. I never thought that diffrence bettwen headphones and speakers could be such big. I really like them.

sennheiser pc 161's, deathadder respawn, qck + heavy. Still cant play for shit.