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ESR Community QL League - Seeding Help (85 comments)

( Forum: QL)

Posted by Nukm @ 11:09 CST, 19 November 2009 - iMsg

Update: The discussion has moved here: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1789649

The Signups are still open but with the unexpected high amount of players i think i wont be able to do a proper seeding fast/alone. So this Thread is meant as a discussion about the general classification (hope it doesnt turn out into a flamefest ;)) of players that helps me makeing the actual divisions.

High:

Torzelan

Deliasz

shqdow

yo_O

YOSEN

dubcat (ac: knallpulver)

He4rTL3sS

Valvalis

peaz_

ani

funnyb

slunge (ac: Slu)

Lethe

ddfu

azmo

Mid:

tB0nE

six16 (d3c4y)

Nukm

Memento_Mori

warchild

Murre

lukke

hkrep

mefajpe

ulbe

hnns (ac: Grettir)

skint

tKy

Dronar

Low:

TwenTY

Dird

son1dow

InDepther

netrex

ShadyAK

GreenMeanie

hyddeman

deotrip

madbringer

sk4ut

DarthShader

primax

AXINOS

Attached Misc File: 72588-esr_tourney.ods (23 Nov 2009, 10KB, 21 downloads)

Edited by Nukm at 21:20 CST, 22 November 2009 - 9518 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 11:11 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

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Nukm

there were so many players i didnt know ingame at all, it was really hard. so i just clicked in their profile and tried to find out how good they are. but i look into every single palyer for 5mins, i dont have the time. so i am sure that there are a lot of mistakes in my judgement cause it was gamble more often then not.
i have no hard feelings for anyone, just correct me please.

<< Comment #2 @ 11:15 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

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funnyb

trollpost about.. how.. stupid and retarded and poorly done this is and.. how dird should be high and.. mefajpe is polish

<< Comment #16 @ 13:46 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #2

also, seeing as this is an ESR tourney, seeds should be done by esr %'s, as it does represent how awesome one am.

exception: becks

<< Comment #19 @ 14:25 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #16

yeh, sucks that it doesn't go over 100%

<< Comment #83 @ 15:37 CST, 22 November 2009 >>

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mammon - Reply to #16

im up for sorting it by [+]es, sounds esrey

<< Comment #3 @ 11:41 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

Mitritch

Approved.

<< Comment #4 @ 11:51 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

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tbone

Yeah that seems about right regarding the mid skill, it contains most of the people I've played haha!

<< Comment #5 @ 11:52 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

tbone

Ps. How did you get info about the mystery swedes, and why are they all high?

Edited by tB0nE at 11:52 CST, 19 November 2009

<< Comment #6 @ 11:55 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #5

mostly just looked into their account. so this is no sure call, but they looked strong
also remebered that Torzelan won something against weird

<< Comment #57 @ 11:48 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Torzelan ' - Reply to #6

I've never beaten Weird :x Got close in a practise game like once, but usually don't have a chance (that Dutch Pacman fucker). Looking at the list I don't think I've played a lot of these players, but I do remember losing to skint. :D

As a one-map-only-all-aim-no-brain-no-patience-mediocre-ping duel anti-talent I feel massively overrated for heck knows whatever reason (that silly tournament with few skilled players half of which were removed?), but won't ask to be moved unless someone really wants to go up a tier. Predicting to get destroyed by some people but am happy if I can take a map or even a game or two...

<< Comment #60 @ 11:52 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #57

we will have about 5 divisions anyway, so you will be 4/5 i guess. will do the final divisions at sunday evening or monday, discuss them until they seem fair (maybe till wednesday). so everything will be adjusted according to the feedback i guess, its not that easy to judge 60 palyers without mistakes while you dont have much time to look up every person and evaluate their former results ;)

<< Comment #61 @ 11:56 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Torzelan ' - Reply to #60

Hehe understand x)

Well I know I can/will take most (not all) people currently in medium, and not have a chance to take top 5 in current high. Do as you please with this info, I'll just play!

<< Comment #26 @ 17:52 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

ani - Reply to #5

Well we're swedes!

<< Comment #7 @ 12:01 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

yo_O

Well, Torzelan and funnyb are just sooo much better than the rest of the high seeded players.

<< Comment #8 @ 12:03 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

funnyb - Reply to #7

i lol'd

have you seen me play 'vq3 duel'? :D

<< Comment #9 @ 12:15 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

yo_O - Reply to #8

I have seen you play 'vq3 duel'! :D

<< Comment #11 @ 12:25 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #7

we will probably have some more signups until sunday, so i would expect 5 divisions in the end anyway

Edited by Nukm at 12:27 CST, 19 November 2009

<< Comment #18 @ 13:57 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

trippy - Reply to #7

wtf.. i heard the guy got knocked out of a tourney by someone who just started quake that day...

could be a rumour..

<< Comment #56 @ 11:47 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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brumu - Reply to #7

i beat torzelan. also he told me he isnt good .. so something is wrong here

<< Comment #59 @ 11:51 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Torzelan ' - Reply to #56

I've made you ragequit enough times that I underestimated you that one time :P Fairly confident in a rematch but indeed I don't have a very good duel mindset.

<< Comment #66 @ 12:22 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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brumu - Reply to #59

i think you ment you made yourself ragequit against me many times

<< Comment #10 @ 12:19 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

azmo

Its probably not too wrong to put me in high, but on a hunch Id say Im more of a mid player.

<< Comment #13 @ 12:43 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

yo_O - Reply to #10

oh and I've just noticed that peaz_ owned pulseh on dm6 (22:3). Well, there should definitely be another 'highest' division ;)

<< Comment #20 @ 16:08 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

oneroomdisco - Reply to #13

DM6 never counts :)

<< Comment #84 @ 16:03 CST, 22 November 2009 >>

By

peaz - Reply to #13

:o stalker
this might be fun! please seed TwenTY in High-seeds.

<< Comment #28 @ 18:54 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

ini - Reply to #10

I doubt it :P

<< Comment #48 @ 08:24 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

By

slunge - Reply to #10

I would say im the same - between mid to highish (lets hope theres 5 divs eh) : )

<< Comment #12 @ 12:29 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

Six16

Im happy in mid.. atleast i might win a few games :-)

<< Comment #14 @ 12:46 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

Six16

Also, Yosen mid seed, he sucks :)

<< Comment #15 @ 13:45 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

funnyb - Reply to #14

he beat frozen in last IEM qualifier

<< Comment #17 @ 13:47 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

trippy - Reply to #14

BURN!!!

<< Comment #21 @ 16:20 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

dubcat

twenty and dronar should be moved to low

I should note that I would be mid-high and not high-high if there would be more divisions

edit: dronar took offence :(

Edited by dubcat at 17:24 CST, 19 November 2009

<< Comment #24 @ 17:38 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #21

well you have to consider that mid still isnt really strong. sohe is probably right. put him back in mid for now

<< Comment #36 @ 03:31 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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yo_O - Reply to #21

We sure need another division (shall we call it "top"?). Then players like Torzelan, funnyb, peaz_, shqdow etc. would go there. And, for example, me, Deliasz,, Valvalis and others would stay in high div ;)

<< Comment #37 @ 03:35 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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dubcat - Reply to #36

nah, would be too few players in top div.

I don't mind getting potentially stomped in a game or two either, it's all about the fun.

<< Comment #39 @ 07:06 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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yo_O - Reply to #37

Either getting owned 20:0 or winning 20:0 isn't what I'd describe as being fun :)
And as Nukm mentioned before, we might get more signups until Sunday which would allow another division to be made.

Edited by yo_O at 07:07 CST, 20 November 2009

<< Comment #40 @ 07:11 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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dubcat - Reply to #39

if there are enough players. otherwise I think it'll even out over time.

and there will undoubtedly be blowout matches anyways. no way of preventing that.

<< Comment #22 @ 17:28 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

Dird

deotrip, dronar & sk4ut are low?

Edited by Dird at 17:30 CST, 19 November 2009

<< Comment #23 @ 17:37 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #22

as far i can remember i havent played any of them.so its hard to judge. they are much better than for exmaple you? or on the same level as other mid guys?

Edited by Nukm at 17:37 CST, 19 November 2009

<< Comment #27 @ 18:20 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

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Dird - Reply to #23

well i don't know how good they are. all i know is:

dronar attended dreamhack...dunno how he did. he lost to tb0ne in the cb 1v1 cup though so maybe the low league is good for him
i recognise sk4ut's nick but that could just be from on here
i know deotrip from this site but cant remember if ive played him in q3 or if im thinking of spyteman etc

i guess i just think of the long time quakers of all being mid+

<< Comment #29 @ 18:55 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

ini - Reply to #27

My experience of playing people from ESR is that they are usually pretty bad (Although this is mostly restricted to TDM/CTF).

<< Comment #30 @ 19:03 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #29

yeah this noctis guy for example, cant stand to even play tdm pickups with him. dont wanna know how much he sucks in duel o0

<< Comment #31 @ 19:05 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

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ini - Reply to #30

:D apart from the few good players :D

It is why everyone is calling themselves low, they know they suck :D.

<< Comment #32 @ 02:35 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #31

and yet I am certain they would all rape me senseless, never having played a duel in ql and all :P

<< Comment #35 @ 03:21 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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noctis - Reply to #30

idd, you should put him in the lowest div

<< Comment #50 @ 09:18 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Mitritch - Reply to #35

NEVAH!!!!!

<< Comment #70 @ 14:28 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

By

son1dow - Reply to #35

enough rape in qw 'newbie' tourneys already

<< Comment #33 @ 02:36 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

By

Dird - Reply to #29

i pwn in ctf yo

<< Comment #25 @ 17:42 CST, 19 November 2009 >>

By

Mitritch - Reply to #22

Believe me, i'm low. :)

<< Comment #34 @ 03:19 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

By

I'm honored to be considered mid, and don't mind getting raped so I think I can stay there and see how it goes. Thanks Nukm for taking the time for this.

Regarding the league. Are we going to upload the demos somewhere? I really would like to see my matches from the opponent's pov.

<< Comment #38 @ 07:04 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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yo_O - Reply to #34

good idea, I'd also like to see my matches from my opponent's POV.

<< Comment #41 @ 07:15 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

By

tbone - Reply to #38

lol we should have fixtures too!

<< Comment #43 @ 07:38 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

By

hkrep - Reply to #41

and meat.

<< Comment #44 @ 07:40 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #34

good idea.

If only there was a site where everybody can upload his demos and people could comment on them :/

<< Comment #45 @ 07:47 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #44

Doesnt seem like anyone's thought of the idea...

<< Comment #49 @ 08:26 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #45

I know.
Let's start a site together!!!

<< Comment #62 @ 11:57 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #44

I was thinking of forcing the updload by the rules, to make sure everybody does so.

<< Comment #63 @ 12:00 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Torzelan ' - Reply to #62

[+]'d and agreed

<< Comment #47 @ 08:07 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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trippy - Reply to #34

i'd like to see my matches from funnyb's POV!! so can funnyb please upload my demos somewhere..

<< Comment #42 @ 07:33 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

By

wyrag

Deliasz ftw! :D

<< Comment #46 @ 07:48 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

By

Six16

I think its time for this to be on the front page of esr as news..

<< Comment #51 @ 09:27 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #46

noo, i dont want any more players ;)
its already way more work than i thought it would be, though i am happy that quite a few ppl like the idea

<< Comment #52 @ 09:40 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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tbone - Reply to #51

Just make it sustainable, so make a bracket that you can use over and over again, and templates for news posts and stuff. Once you got the templates you can reuse it over and over. And let me know if you need help, I'm home this weekend.

<< Comment #58 @ 11:49 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #52

well entering results and adding up scores for the divisions table will be a pain in the ass cause it all has to be done by hand on esr. but we will see.
im at friends over this weeken, so im basicly not available until sunday when the signups close

<< Comment #67 @ 12:55 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Mitritch - Reply to #58

I think it is not a problem to find a helping hand among participants. :)

<< Comment #72 @ 19:13 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #67

its easy to find people willing to help but its hard to find people able to help ;)
but i will try to make this open to the players as much as i can

<< Comment #53 @ 10:10 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #51

Just say signups are closed, still i think its worth making a major news post once all brackets etc are created and it offically begins.

Also might be worth making a sticky thread for when it starts so results etc can be updated.

<< Comment #54 @ 10:34 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #51

Another 7 more today to add from the signups page :)

Id close signups if u dont want anymore!

Edited by six16 at 10:35 CST, 20 November 2009

<< Comment #68 @ 12:55 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Mitritch - Reply to #54

Or just create reserve group. Maybe.

<< Comment #55 @ 10:41 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

By

Six16

I promise il stop posting on this thread soon but one more thing... (im at work, bored)

Any chance for getting any prizes from somewhere? Im sure if we contacted some manufacturers we could get something :)

Edited by six16 at 10:42 CST, 20 November 2009

<< Comment #75 @ 03:53 CST, 21 November 2009 >>

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yo_O - Reply to #55

Someone could contact companies such as Steelseries, razer, zowie etc etc. Maybe they could provide some simple prizes (mousepads, for example).

<< Comment #76 @ 07:19 CST, 21 November 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #75

i think we should wait how season 1 turns out. if everything goes well, then we can plan further

<< Comment #64 @ 12:16 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

By

I approve.

<< Comment #65 @ 12:17 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #64

IE Torzelan very far away from me = happy face.

:D

<< Comment #69 @ 13:36 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Fearghas

the real esr community pools.

top:
jamerio
venim
sucky sucky 5 dolla
jonesy

mid:
becks
gillz
ScarletJohansonsFather
fraggerr

low:
walter
vorpal
brumu
stunt.us

unseeded:
liam
ix
tourist
fearghasisadumbass

Edited by Fearghas at 00:18 CST, 21 November 2009

<< Comment #74 @ 23:47 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #69

you got venim twice

<< Comment #78 @ 06:03 CST, 22 November 2009 >>

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becks - Reply to #69

you just me me cry :(

are you happy?

<< Comment #81 @ 14:21 CST, 22 November 2009 >>

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Fearghas - Reply to #78

yes, yes I am.

<< Comment #71 @ 17:30 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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netrex

Hm. I agree where I'm placed, but not primax. He is a lot better than I am (I suck though :P). And he just got lower ping due to fiber. At least mid.

Edited by netrex at 21:14 CST, 20 November 2009

<< Comment #73 @ 21:12 CST, 20 November 2009 >>

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Deliasz

hmm i think that i'm too high ;) I could be in some mid lvl. I'm not strong player. I have some good matches from time to time. In the end i don't really mind being raped by a very good player !

<< Comment #85 @ 17:54 CST, 22 November 2009 >>

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Xyloe - Reply to #73

Modesty the best policy eh! :D

<< Comment #77 @ 03:41 CST, 22 November 2009 >>

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yo_O

K, now we have plenty of signups (check the signup thread). Nukm, you should start making 4 divisions ;)

<< Comment #80 @ 08:01 CST, 22 November 2009 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #77

i havent been at home for 2 days so i couldnt do much, but i still followed the thread
will be back home in 5-6h and do the divisions later today
and the divisions were always planned to be with 8-12 players. read the main post, the 3 seeding pools were never meant to be divisions, just a general categorization

<< Comment #79 @ 07:47 CST, 22 November 2009 >>

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hydde

im satisfied with my seed in low. :)

<< Comment #82 @ 14:35 CST, 22 November 2009 >>

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Torzelan '

Starting to doubt the "high" seed, played a bunch of duels friday and I can really lose to anyone (and this on the only map I even know). Dumb as a rock lol

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