Nice, hope may is a uk stop ...

After the mess in 2005? I doubt it, sadly.

yeyeye, cant exspect one if they fuck it up. tbh. imo.

If they choose a different organiser maybe.

Yep deff. The game frontier website was was almost non-functioning, it sort of gave off the wrong impression even before you got to the event!

It was pink.

Enough said

/me ponders which colour to change ingame nick to now :*(

Blue

? but china's a stop again...

China wasnt the same mess as the UK stop. China didnt even hold theirs, it was the government that put a stop to it with their rating of the game. However, the UK DID run their stop, but it was singularly the worse event I attended in 2005 and by some distance.

i see, but i was just pointing out that despite that China was also a disaster last year (for being cancelled and fueling even more kiddie anti-cpl crap here), it is again a stop for this year.

the way i see it is that if they ban q4 they will still hold a stop for cs, so cpl really has nothing to lose.

why would they ban q4 and not cs? wasn't it the german stop that was cancelled because of a ban?

cs has been around for ages and hasn't been on the ban-list in china yet afaik. however q4 is a new game, and therefore probably currently under judgement by the culture ministry of china, or whoever deals with that.

germany on the other hand was mis-prepareation on the cpl's part. the game as a whole isn't banned, it is just banned from viewing it to minors. in other words, in order for the event to work, all painkiller games had to have been closed off by a curtain and people would have their ID's checked before entering the enclosed area. this pretty much screwed cpl's plans as they had no idea of this until the days nearing the event.

That's one hell of a blunder for a professional organisation! Can't have been CPL USA organising this?

its cheaper to contract people around the area, as they have more resources and means of getting those resources quicker. its cheaper that way, plus i dont think anyone on the cpl staff really knew the meaning of the gameban in germany regardless, so having them organize it would've probably produced the same results.

I don't know, I've organised a few gaming events and checking the restrictions is the first thing you do.

what can i say... people got lazy? :P

rawrawarawrawrarwrwarawwraawraarwarwarwrawrawawrrwa !!!!!!!

May Germany ogogogogo

all players have to be 45 or over and all blood is green. retards.

16 =)
i dont know anything about the localized german q4 version concering gore details so your "green blood" point might be right,or its just turned off.

if it's turned off, it's a cheat :>

wth...so what,green,red,wheres the difference?

Would be awesome with another scandinavian stop to be honest :)

norway or finland!

whats wrong with denmark you fucking racist






=)

yeah, dk > no anyday

I'll plus that any day!

<3

when did denmark turn into a race!? :D

when did finland become scandinavia?

http://www.goscandinavia.com/

*sighs*

A sad day for all of us ;)

English:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia

Swedish:
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skandinavien

The tourist page you linked to are probably refering to "greater scandinavia" or Nordic. It says that the fact that Finland is Scandinavian is much debated and the general view today is that it is not included. I guess being a scandinavian country has a better ring to it than being a baltic state :P

finland, norway, sweden, denmark, that's scandinavia.

check again, updated my last post

"The neutrality and factual accuracy of this article are disputed.
Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page."

iceland is also considered scandinavia by some definitions... it's kinda vague :/

no, but to "norden" (the north(northern europe??))

yea I would say so too... but many non-scandinavians consider both Finland and Iceland scandinavian countries as well...

http://www.goscandinavia.com/

americans also think europe is a country

only very stupid Americans... I guess there are very stupid Europeans who think Europe is a country too.

Who knows? They haven't appeared in public yet tho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fennoscandia

This seems to support my point.

Generally if you are from Denmark, Norway, Sweden then Finland is not in Scandinavia, if you are not then it is considered Scandinavia by most places.

shoplifting in denmark is so easy,go denmark !

Australia or Singapore would also be great for May or even South Africa (to make it 5 continents)

Singapore defoooooo.

Australia FTW!!!!!!!!!! which would also make it 5 continents

yeah south africa would be very cool

Yeh, African bum disease FTW :/

I'm coming to infect you soon, Jamerio!!@#!#

Yeah! Australia/South Africa or Asia!! =)

Badger the CPL to contact Arena 77 (www.arena77.com). They're just about our only big organisers; handle the ESWC qualifiers and other local tourneys, etc.

I think we can forget Africa hosting it, at least till its third world debt is cleared.

There is more than one country in Africa.

South Africa is third world now? Stupid british cunt. The whole thing about "first, second, third world" is ridiculous.

no nightlife in africa, knifed if u leave the site

Didn't Angel already say the first stop would be Austrialia?

I thought that too, but thinking back over the last few months I think he just said he'd love to go there, but he has mentioned it several times. Its far more likely than a lot of the other places mentioned I guess.

He actually did say in an interview that it was likely the first stop was going to be there. But since then i've heard many rumours about Australia not wanting to host it, and it "definately not" being in Australia. In any case, i doubt it is - the fact that it was one of the first stops they were organising makes it seem like plans fell through so they had to start over.

edit: still, i hope by some miracle they do manage to sort it out. always wanted to go to australia.

Uh, the "May - Pending" stop has been removed from the CPL site's news post. Not sure what that means :\

I've heard that the australian gov passed a law concerning /killergames/ ..
BUT, ive have no sources..

OH NO!! Not at Dreamhack again :((

I am selling nose pins if anyone needs them...

agreed! Please not DH in crappy Jönköping

UK(London) in may.

(Sujoy start building that extension)

now theres less stops they should have at least 3 in usa. maybe just have the world tour, tour america, OR maybe play in a differnt vegas casino every stop, that would be like differnt countries/themes.

Vegas is cursed.

Australia is probably going to be may. Angel talked about it in a bunch of interviews. If thats so its going to be expensive!

I heard otherwise

The UK has to have a stop after the success of last years

eh? that has to be irony.

You mean sarcasm ? :X

Irony has to be ironic, but does not need to be funny/mocking/insulting.

Sarcasm can – but does not have to – be ironic, and has to be funny/insulting/mocking.

what are you trying to say ? :E

That it is irony?

cynicism

well lets face it, it couldnt get much worse :)

May - Austria

if its in aus bring the bug spray..funnel web :XXXX
-koj

Yeah its not like that =\

May - South Africa

May - netherlands.

May - be im a dreamer, but im not the only one.

May - Iraq

that would be like a 3rd american stop.

With real life counterstrike. It's about time we bring realism to gaming. What better place then to start. Let's see team 3d vs Col on the streets of bagdad

de_Bagdad

lol

de_baghdad.

or Bush his favorite map: as_oilrig

:>

looks more likely to be de_tehran at the moment :p

bet you googled that for the right spelling ;)

I didnt actually, but I was certainly tempted :p

you used winword didn't you :(

Steve Winword? Valeriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie, call on me, valeriiiiiiiiiiiiiie.

Ill get my coat.

So much for world tour stops going to new locations. I don't see why cpl wouldnt try to vary the countries as much as possible every year to garner as much exposure as possible.

But yea, hopefully may will be South Africa or Australia

No.

dont worry captian dipshit, i wasnt implying they should drop the US stops.

Look idiot, it's pseudo-'cookies for everyone' bullshit like that in this scene that gets in the way of the progress of an ACTUAL COMPETITIVE game/SPORT-- where the heirarchy of best to less needs to be very distinguished, otherwise 'competition' loses alot of it's meaning.

Who the fuck is gonna care about quake 4 in some remote place as opposed to where it's happening right now (or 'where it's at') like Sweden or USA? How are these places gonna garner more 'exposure', idiot?

You saw the stops last year. There were ten fucking stops last year and they were in VERY varying places. Many were cancelled, and many were of little interest.

When someone thinks of international poker tournaments, they think of the Caribbean, they think of decadent places in Europe, they think of big cities in America. These are the places CPL should want its stops to eventually be at.

I'm sorry if this insults your manhood in some way, and holding stops as BIG stops in big cities or in big, 'SUPERPOWAR!' countries makes you feel a little insecure somehow for some reason, but that is how it should be done. To garner 'exposure' like you say these stops need to be held in big cities at big venues to places people WANT to go, NEAR where the biggest communities for this are AT. For someone who asks about 'exposure', this should be simple logics, moron.

Quake 4 isnt the only tournament in the CPL, cs is played internationally at a large scale.

Most of the stops were not cancelled because of a lack of interest but for logistical issues.

Places where the game is already established like sweden already will attract most or all of the comepetitve gamers the country has to offer so there will be little to no new expsoure for the scene. Places where the scene has yet to develope fully like Austrailia, South Africa, Egypt, etc gets new people involved and interested that has never been able to see a CPL before. I know this is a difficult concept for your ethnocentric mind to grasp but raising awareness and support in countries that have had few to no CPL events is more beneficial than holding the events in the same place every year.

The finals in a big city like new york attracted people new to the scene because of the MTV association, not because always putting events in big cities is the right thing to do. All of the other earlier stops in big cities had lackluster spectatorship from people outside of the community because its just another gaming event to them, and they already have many.

I think after your post you are ready to be promoted to colonel, dipshit.

"Most of the stops were not cancelled because of a lack of interest but for logistical issues."

Which obviously also transfers down to lack of interest. Only Turkey was 'cancelled' because of weather. Either way, who the fuck cares about this in Turkey? Who WANTS to goto Turkey (over many other destinations)?

"Places where the game is already established like sweden already will attract most or all of the comepetitve gamers the country has to offer so there will be little to no new expsoure for the scene. Places where the scene has yet to develope fully like Austrailia, South Africa, Egypt, etc gets new people involved and interested that has never been able to see a CPL before."

People like you piss me off. This is not even worth getting into with you, I can tell, because you are so deluded.

"I know this is a difficult concept for your ethnocentric mind to grasp but raising awareness and support in countries that have had few to no CPL events is more beneficial than holding the events in the same place every year."

Wow it's a good thing you don't run any of this shit. Look at most other sports/games leagues (especially those that had to use their budget efficiently) and see if you make sense.

"The finals in a big city like new york attracted people new to the scene because of the MTV association"

Exactly. Another clear cut example. The amount of media, TV, magazine, and internet exposure that got far outweights all other obscure stops the CPL did throughout that whole year and would have outweighted any other less 'significant' stops it would have done by a longshot. It's called Think Big.

", not because always putting events in big cities is the right thing to do."

LOL. Little man.

"All of the other earlier stops in big cities had lackluster spectatorship from people outside of the community because"

...because not many gave a shit about painkiller!. Not that you can verify any of that factually though.

"I think after your post you are ready to be promoted to colonel, dipshit."

You are pathetic. When you think about attacking someone for their nationality, try not to set yourself up for an idiot's trap. Like having to talk about shit you do not know of.

"Only Turkey was 'cancelled' because of weather."

Germany?

"People like you piss me off. This is not even worth getting into with you, I can tell, because you are so deluded.[...]Like having to talk about shit you do not know of."

Speak for yourself, instead of trying to make an actual rational argument you call me deluded, you have no clue what you are talking about.

"Wow it's a good thing you don't run any of this shit. Look at most other sports/games leagues (especially those that had to use their budget efficiently) and see if you make sense."

Again a completely illogical argument. Trying to compare professional sports to gaming at this point is ludicrous. But if you were trying to compare the two, what about the olympics? Different venues every event and many of the cities have a comparatively small population. Using your retarded gorilla logic the olympics should be in New York or Los Angeles every year, right?

"Exactly. Another clear cut example. The amount of media, TV, magazine, and internet exposure that got far outweights all other obscure stops the CPL did throughout that whole year and would have outweighted any other less 'significant' stops it would have done by a longshot. It's called Think Big."

The point of my statement about the New York finals was that the only reason for the added exposure was the presence of MTV filming it and the larger prize purse. The event would have garnered the same international exposure if it was held in Buffalo.

"...because not many gave a shit about painkiller!. Not that you can verify any of that factually though."

And why will Joe Schmoe give a shit about Quake 4? The player numbers for the game are pretty abysmal at the moment. Dont get me wrong, the game is far more enjoyable to watch and play and the tournaments will be better to watch, but the point is to get people in the doors and interested. The event's visibility and spectator numbers will be generated by Counterstrike a game which has 100x more players and played on a global scale.


"You are pathetic. When you think about attacking someone for their nationality, try not to set yourself up for an idiot's trap. Like having to talk about shit you do not know of."

I'm from America, General. I never attacked your nationality, just your attitude that exemplifies why Americans are hated on this site and as a whole.

your response is not worth responding too. and No i'm not just trolling. I'm being real.

p.s. besides i have better things to do right now than convince a non-factor, like sleep.

oh youre being real, that explains it. Good try, better luck next time.

cpl holland :]

oh boy
+1 for sure.
was one of the 1st events i followed. the good old days :(

Japan ;(((

Just hold the whole thing in Sweden. kthxbye.

Canada is a realistic and affordable stop in my biased opinion :)

We have very lax immigration laws so those of you who forgot they need a passport might even make it.

West Canada, or Northwest USA plz. :]

as awesome as it would be... dont get your hopes up.
cpl intends to have all north american stops in the states.

thanks to that you're probably the only canadian in attendence.

MOTHER RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i reckon it would have to be south africa, austrailia, japan or mother russia.
If I have got any money may goto the swedish stop, always wanted to go.

in that case i hope for South Africa

October - Italy

Where in Italy?

do you see the exact locations for any other stops up there?

they havent announced them yet.

that is why I'm asking if they have..

i guess it will be milan again

i think 99% it will take place at milan during smau.

May - pending

oh plz let it be germany <3

CPL Amsterdam please :)

Bratislava ftw

That is enough Eurotrip for ya!
btw Prague ftw =)

Why not CPL France....
oups I forgot ESWC

am I the only one rooting for CPL Belgium ?

i think so ;)

but apart from that, anything near to my home would be nice, so i'd say "ok" to a stop in belgium

Good luck, CPL.

Bring us CPL-Japan please! The rising sun needs this more then anyone. :D

-Main Stops +Qualifiers.

no, they only do that after fatality loses them.

Well october = Smaulip so i expect.. Milan

great, another expensive time in shitaly

did it suck?

the tournament ran well... but we were in a bad part milan, and everything was expensive as well :S

yeh milan sucks

yer andy, was expensive as fook where we were.. if play it are organising it i guess it'll be at same hotel, my plea to play it, choose a different hotel !! :P

Been cheap as hell everytime I've been. Depends on where you go I guess.

harsh joke on hell's behalf! poor buggar ;[

Time to saddle up my kangaroo

haha, typos > all

Sadly, I'm not sure about the tournament infrastructure in South Africa, I do know that we have held successful tournaments in the past, but there have also been alot of failures. One good thing is that there should be a lot of local talent that could enter and do well.

Then again I'm sure the same could be said of Austrailia, but after the horrible thrashing we got in the cricket, they don't deserve it.

hey tbone, you got your italian citizenship? :D

applying tomorrow, but I should get it.

The may stop should be in Europe (preferably in Scandinavia or UK). It's all nice and fine that it's named a "World Tour", but really, just have the events where the most players have a fair chance of getting to.

Thats far better for the players, the spectators and the "sport" (if you want to call it that).

so it should be in santiago de chile again.

sigh all these years of cpl worldtours and still no close cpl for belgium

all these one years?

nice i think maybe a south korea stop :D

my thought as well, would be interesting

err and why ? koreans are far more interested in rts games,dumb kartrallye games and cs.

they need to be educated then :P

you cant =( they already have 3 tv stations that broadcast Broodwar only

sigh losing battle then :P

even though they're far more interested in RTS than FPS, a tour stop in korea would still get more coverage than a stop anywhere else in the world, so what's the problem ?

no problem i was taking the piss about trying to convert them

thier whole lifestyle is gaming my friend



BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME

that's why they didnt accept quake 3,ut and warcraft 3 as competitive games.

thanks for that information
mr sensai of computer gaming

Sensei. Sensei is japanese and not korean for "teacher" :-)

well done for spelling it right as on the internet doing such a thing implies that you are better than me.

number two i didnt say weather or not i meant it ina japanese or korean sense....

thirdly zzzzzzzzz

number one of course.
number two we're talking about korea,not japan. TAKESHI'S CASTLE VS BROODWAAR
number 3 wake me up before you gogo!

number four: i can do a kickflip on you !

Did you just say weather? I heard it is getting cold over there in the USSR.

taiwan ftw!

i think reducing the number of stops is a nice idea. last tour was some kind of overkill.
hopefully less stops offer better focusing -> better coverage and preperation.
another madder would be that every stop shouldnt feel the same way imho, that kinda disturbed me th last year.

talk to weg get it on feckin telly there use their player village i am sure they would let you exposure n stuff CANT HARM IN ASKING still dont think cpl are the asking type but i dunno i just dont know ps. sorry for my shit grammer tired and CBA to change

didn't CPL mention awhile ago that they were going to have qualifiers for all or alot of their stops?

i think asia would be nice and fair, japan or south korea please :)
(i don't want germany, cpl lost to german law last year and they are doomed to fail again xD)

Birmingham, UK because it has spearmint rhino
i still wouldnt attend tho

u got a plus for not going.

LOL

[-] :(

your sister would place higher than you anyway

paedo

lmao@dirds sister

Australia would be awsome. We havent had anything CPL related since 2001 (CPL Pacific).

:o

Also, the conversion rate (money) for euro's is great ! Why wouldnt you wanna come here and live it up for a week or so?

LIES! alcohol and cigarettes are about two times as expensive in australia than in central europe :(

What are you talking about mate?

I was in the UK for Christmas and New years (2005) and also visited Paris for 3 days... and the conversion was shocking.

1.00 AUD = 0.618070 EUR
1.00 AUD = 0.425244 GBP

And then its all relative..

For example - we will use a Maccas (McDonalds) meal. In Australia, you pay $5 for a large maccas meal. In Paris, It was a similar price, but in Euro's!

Cigarettes more expensive? $10 for a pack of 30's. When i bought a pack in the UK - they were packs of 20's and tasted horrible (for a cigarette :)

Obviously I want a tour stop in Australia, however.. the flight from Sydney to London... fair bloody shockin.

:D

SPAIN FTW

May: CPL ICELAND!

hehe, made me chuckle :D

belgium! :x

Poland ?

IN RUSSIA QUAKE 4 PLAYS YOU

we want a netherlands stop

They should at least remove China. Crappy country... Even North-Korea would be better.
They will ban Q4 anyway.

Wow didn't expect coffee shops to have internet acces.

coffee shops = inspiration, new tactics, and aim divided by 2 (if not more). very efficient with railers

Chile!! Futbol!! Lan-z!! xD

hahahah seria weno pero no creo

cpl moon plz

russian, australia, or japan are my picks for may, but im hoping most for japan.

it would be really interesting seeing lots of russians attending a cpl tournament!

A nice side tourney w/ Q4 TDM would be really nice come July :)

why china? didn't they have problems when they wanted to host their tour-stop in china last year?

They had to change to Singapore at the last minute because the Chinese government banned PK.

ah yeah. so why would they rather have a q4 tourney instead a pk tourney?!

don't say 'because they have a good taste in games!' or something like that! :F

CS isn't banned.

what's that got to do with my point? :>

You must remind yourself that Q4 is NOT the world tour game but CS is.

CS is the PRIMARY world tour game. Q4 is the SECONDARY world tour game. They are actually both world tour games :)

CPL May -- Cancelled ( Germany did it again!)--

may UK just get the right ppl to host it

on that lost island hosted by dharma ;((

im sad

n1 Italy

any idea on the exact dates in may?:)

"May - pending" seems to have been removed from thecpl.com.

Because people are assuming that "pending" means there will be a stop in May and that we are only deciding on location. When it reality it means that we have yet to confirm if we are doing a stop in May.

If we do decide to have one in May here are the countries that would like to host it:

Australia, United Kingdom, Korea, Canada and India. More after our World Tour Summit in late February.
-Angel Munoz

I WANT RUSSIA!!!!

OMFG, India! Yeah! I've a good friend there so I would definetely attend!

UKthx

all of those sound good tbh

a UK stop wouldn't be so bad, as mentioned earlier in this post it's just a case of getting the right people to host it, gamers who know gamers needs.

I think Multiplay would do a decent job if whoever stumped us the cash to get a venue worthy of holding such an event at.

Hmm again nothing close to Belgium (Sweden is too far) and Italy is when College started alrdy.

Everything is way to far away for me to be able to participate :(

(gooo northwest)

#150-Jabb0r
tell me where it says CS is PRIMARY and Q4 is SECONDARY, I seem to remember quite clearly it being said CS is the TEAM game, and Q4 is the 1V1 game.

btw cs sucks:)

May - Cardiff, Woohoo

wt... Barcelona Stop was great!!!

Finland is absolutely NOT in Scandinavia. There are some pan-Scandinavian fanatics, mainly in Sweden, who dream of integrating Iceland, Denmark, Finland, Norway, and Sweden into one giant region where everyone speaks "skandinavisk" language. They are the ones who propogate nonsense and are even using their agents in Finnish government to force Finns to learn and speak Swedish. Finns and their beautiful language are distinctly different , and are related to Hungarians, Russians, and Estonians.