Ownage!

u mean Orange !

huh?

looks nice, but performance!?

its an Everglide Titan with a print on it

but everglide always sucked?!

:(

well its not like their orginal plastic pads. More like a fatpad ;)

beats a fatpad :)

I'm sure they are both as bad! Steelpad are the only real mousepads around. Since I got my QcK+ my headshotrate has increased by A HUUUGE amount!

i can vouch for that! they're simply grrrreat

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I think fox has recently had a religious experience.

haha nice

so does tewic, even though i would love to try an EG Titan :)

waeh! a cs player, hunt him down!

rofl

u sound just like the CS squad :>

steelpad is teh siht! icemat v2 ain't half bad either.

v2?

2nd. edition. As opposed to the smaller 10x8" icemat, it's a 12x10" version.

An inch increase to all 4 sides isn't that dramatic if you ask me, that's still too small.

It's two inches on each side which is not quite 50% bigger. For me, it's the perfectly sized pad when turned portrait style.

aha. I'll stick to my trustee v1 then. V2 sounds like a waste of space for me :)

Was expecting to see a naked vo0 or someting :/

Never used the pad before, but looks quite nice. Definitely has more style than say a fatpad would :p.

Nice one.

really cute orange logo

To much orange. :D

lol

I'm gonna get one to support my favourte team !!! I am 9 years old...

Wow colorfull ;)

Similarities to a picture I drew when I was 7 years old.

8bitlobster ?

i want a mousepad with your pic on it :)

Is that a third leg, or did you have a disturbing childhood?

That's something I've always wondered about the fnatic logo.

It's not a third leg, he's taking a crap through his penis or something.

Black background with the logo in the centre as orange would of been better imo. But it still looks nice.

yea, I'd like black/orange

I got a mousepad with my head on it , priceless, for fnatic visa card master card?

BTW: Quake IV will screw PK, so then the mousepads are passé :P

Not to sound rude, but I was thinking somewhere along those lines.
I only hear about voo, and voo can't be the whole team. So I'm affraid when the CPL drops PK, we won't hear much about fnatic anyway.

Sorry if I stepped on ones toes with this.

I definetly don't think so : )

If you only hear about me then you have been reading the wrong sites. We have a CS/WC3/UT2K4 team as well. Granted they are not as dominant as the PK team (UT2K4 is, but its dieing, just like PK will die after the WT is over), but they are still topclass. And IF Q4 will be the next big thing we would be stupid to not have players for it, right?

Infact, I really didn't hear much about cs/wc3 nor ut2k4 aside from the announcemnts that you have a new team. I think I'm not the only one to say that.

Getting a team, and getting a winning team is the difference :), but you can do it I guess & hope.

You must have heard of Lauke?!

Yeah now that you mention it :), I forgot he was in fnatic.

Maybe it's just me, but all clans have some team based titles, for example SK is very well known for his past CS/UT/Quake team aside form their 1v1 quakers and ut-ers. Also EYE or GZD, but I didn't hear much team news from fnatic. It's prolly because the whole clan came to exsist in this time where most of the games started dying. Anyway I hope to hear more in the Q4/UT2k7 times :)

And if I may have sounded rude, I didn't mean to, I really wish the best for every team there is.

I'd also add Gopher, you know, the guy who created IC, and who recently won D3 at Quakecon beating twice the almost famous RocketBoy.

fnatic.cs recently won a tournament against such teams X6tence, a-Losers and Ocrana which isnt too shabby, expect to see some nice results from them soon now that they have a nice stable lineup. Repeating what Sujoy said, you must have heard of Lauke? :) You also have toxic in Q3 for ESWC.

Also take into account the potential fnatic now has before the Q4 release... VoO, gopher, toxic. No shame in that and that is just their probable starting material!

Iam just sitting on the sidelines here but I see a bright future for fnatic.


**edit, I know jack about wc3 but they are contenders there anyway, not top3(?) but still, cant win them all ^^

Now that you mention it :)
I had no idea that toxic and gopher a fnatic :), must have missed the news :).

gopher and toxic in Q4 will be nice. I think Vo0 will have more problems adapting to a slower paced game. He was top of the bill in CPMA and currently is in PK, but he never was _that_ good in Q3 OSP. Correct me if I'm wrong ofcourse :)

We'll see how it develops when Q4 comes out. Clans with status automatically, or at least easier, attract top players because of results/guarantees from the past.

He actually played vq3 for just a few months when he discovered cpma (bitchslap me if im wrong Sander =P)
He played a fair game of q2 before that, he was fairly good on an isdn connex with ping 80, i'll never forget the comments "Vo0 your chaingun is shit" and the reply 'yea thanks, IM ON PING 80 NERD!'. priceless =)

He's can really adapt to other styles of gameplay when he focusses on it. he actually beat pro on hub3 (proZaC didn't know the map tho and vo0 owned the map in cpma =P)

So i think that Vo0 will be at the top in Quake4, if he likes the game. Everybody knows that it's easier to get good at games you really like, so i hope vo0 likes quake4 =)

And not to mention how stoned prozac was ;)

Vo0 was just as stoned =)
we went together =P ( i didn't smoke tho)

he was shit in q2.

yea with ping 80 he was
with ping 30 he was beatin rufus on dm1 untill rufus went spectator to start over again.

a majority of our fnatic.wc3 team is the ex-team64.amd squad, which placed 2nd in the previous WC3L. granted they havent been performing as well in this season, we have strong faith in them, as they are still a young squad full of potential for the future.

Like I said, dont know jack about wc3 ^^

However you like to look at it. The fact is that our PK team and UT team has been with Fnatic for such a long time and with the World Tour, Painkiller being the game, its more then normal that you read more about the Painkiller players and in particular Vo0. The World Tour has a tournament every month, unlike most of the other games is another reason. But keep in mind that our WarCraft 3 squad and Counter-Strike squad only got announced recently, which means that its more then normal that you haven’t heard much about them, since they only have been attending a small amount of events. Vo0 performances are exceptional good, they are great but that doesn’t mean that everyone will perform that great in Fnatic, which is not even realistic.

Just saying, that you don’t have to be afraid of us not being in the picture next year. We will always try to aim to be in the top of every game.

Yeah it's prolly me, as I said, I miss the clan times. I'm not into dueling that much.

Isn't it funny, when we announce our teams. Everybody whines there is to much fnatic news on esr and now it's only vo0. Rofl!

Anyways, i haven't tried pad yet.
Using Steelpad 4d now, let's see how this new pad is!
Since it is developed by lauke and vo0, i doubt that it is bad!

bla bla bla fty

"Since it is developed by lauke and vo0, i doubt that it is bad!"

And you believe that? More like Everglide gave them a load of money to use the pad just like Razer gave Fatal1ty a load of money to use a crappy Boomslang which he stopped using as soon as they stopped sponsoring him...

To be honest, at first I was skeptic about changing pads but my aim has improved using this mat. Or that's just because I switched to MX518 I don't know, but I prefer it above a fatpad nowadays. Also, beating fat with a fatpad became old

LOL classic.

Hey! You never guess who is sleeping on a fatpad!? :P

So is the fnatic pad softer then the fat one? and does it come with a hair-roller? :)

Lol.. Nisse is sleeping on it :)

"but my aim has improved using this mat"

Yes I'm sure your hand-eye coordination coupled with your ability to predict opponents' behaviour has improved now you're using a different textured piece of cloth...gimme a break. The only thing we can say for sure is that the fnatic bank account will improve now you've said that comment, sadly at the cost of your soul.

Look, believe me or not, but some mats suit me better than other. I always like to make a comparison with tennis. Every racket is different, and some rackets suit players better than others. So if a player switches rackets and is like "this racket helped me improve" then I believe him, after evaluating a match (just giving an example). Now, with the msie3.0+fatpad combo I always felt that the pad had too much grip and that I didn't got the most out of myself. But I feared change because I kept winning all those tournaments. Then Everglide comes along, and obviously make an interesting offer for me and fnatic, else, why would I change mousepads if I was winning every tournament. So, I tried the Everglide and felt a better combination for my mouse, is being smoother, but has less grip, but it is a better combination for me, but not for everyone. This pad might suit me better than it does for other people. And it's not the fact that my hand-eye coordination improved, cause that's obviously bullshit, like you know, but like I said, the pad suits me better.
I don't even see why I am bothering writing such a long reply, but I just can't stand the fact when people don't believe my words.

It would make more sense to say something like 'This mousepad feels a lot more comfortable to me' since from what you've just said the improvement physically is marginal and is really just a comfort/mental change. My problem is that your "this improved my aim comment" makes it sound like if some idiot who play pk once a week picks up the pad his aim is going to improve overnight, which we all know is bs.

seriously, drop the nitpicking. if the pad has less friction, which he says, then yes you can improve overnight. preference

If you think a minimal change in the texture of some cloth can improve you overnight then you're not worth wasting time talking to.

neither are ignorant people like you who don't realize friction is an important variable of someones aim... vo0 talked about "grip" as in friction.

I've used almost every pad on the market and at least 10 mice in 2 years in every kind of fps imaginable and I can tell you 100% aim is entirely mental. You may find certain parts of aiming easier on different surfaces but all in all it is to do with your subconscious mind more than a physical surface. Don't let that stop you climbing up Vo0's ass because he won a few games in a computer game though, let your gay banter live long!

Why so aggressive? Sad to see your obsessive testing of mousepads and mice haven't given you any results, and led you to think it's all mental.
It plays a major role of course. But you can't deny the fact that friction between surfaces won't affect how you play, that's simply ignorant.

You're poor attempts to insult someone for selling their soul and being gay is more worrying than fnatic trying to sell some mousepads. Most sponsored clans do already, it's a part of their deal, you gonna go rant on each one of them? Good luck, captein mental. Just pathetic.

What I'm basically saying is while what you're saying may well be true, when you consider the way it will be taken by people reading this thread and considering buying the pad it is disingenuous

I said that I didn't know what the exact reason was, the MX518 over the MSIE3.0, or the Everglide pad over the Fatpad.

Do you think it's worth Ł23?

I prefer to put Ł23 petrol in my suped up drop top LOOOOOL

These mouse mat makers are taking advantage of naive people…

It seems like pro gamers are going down the “lie my ass off to make money and sell products” route…

But hey, there are lots of naive people out there willing to buy products at rip off prices, so good luck. As a really good car sales man once said to me, “Thank god there are so many idiots in this world so I can make money.”

I'd lay 2:1 odds you could place top 3 at every world tour stop playing with an old logitech ball mouse and a standard cloth pad, with at worst a 5% difference in the accuracy of your shots.

developed by me and vo0 haha :)
approved ahum. and no, not just approved because it's just like other standard clothpads and just as good as them but actually quite different (smoother, less friction). only thing you need to be able to live with it the nice smell :-).

You only approved of their mat because they paid you money... go on, tell us it's the best thing ever and you are not getting any money for it...

HEY KIDZ, A MOUSE MAT WONT TURN YOU INTO A PRO... ONLY PRACTICE WILL ;-)

Lauke and Co would own you on any mouse mat, because they play so much !!!

This is just advertisement rubbish...

No no, I don't get payed for it.
https://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=871398#pid870149 says a lot of already.
And I don' t actually play with this pad atm like I said (but I will give it a good try when i've got a lot of time again to get used to it when there are no tournaments).

Of course Everglide just as every single other company on earth tries to promote it's products and overreacts a little, tries to sound as if they have the perfect product. If this bothers you so much in gaming, why don't you do it in football, blame nike and adidas, or other electronics, microsoft or sony.
Come on...

Lunarstorm Pad :O

i would totally buy that.

I am sure you would, mangefox :) At my old apartement we had a WC with the exact lunarstorm coloring, blue floor and orange walls... Somehow the comparison is hilarious :D

lol does anyone know how to clean such a pad? i have a steelpad qck+ and i drowned it in ice-tea yesterday :/
i thought about simply putting it into a washing machine or dish washer ;p
anyone got a good hint? :p

It's made of cloth right? I would probably run a sink of soapy water, submerge the pad completely, maybe rub it off a bit and then take it out, towel it off, and let it air-dry, out in a sunny spot if it's warm there.

Just with some water and wash powder u can put it in the dryer after it. Washed mine today ;)

btw you can also put it in the dishwasher. Always did that with my snowpad :).

water and soap is the best. cleaned my dkt everglide several times like that.

i would just use warm water, you don't want any crappy soap residue all over it!

i like the look of it :]

My old MTW pad (bought on a lan, cause I forgot my clothpad, not 'cause of the MTW clan) serves me quite well, and I think my next pad is gonna be the same. Maybe the XXL version of it at GamersWear.

MTW FANBOI!

Great surface and the power to light up your room. What more could you ask for?

fnatic site down ? or is it me :|

sayin all fnatic players will use it is asking for trouble. bets on first player to lan with a diff pad.

if its not cloth il check it out tho. fnatic r n1 in my book.

Every fnatic player can play with whatever he wants too, nevertheless if there is an Everglide available for the player than that would be the best choice for both the player (cheaper) and the team. We're also using richochets but about 70% of the people are using the titan now.

Ok Lauke, but then you shouldn't say that;

"The official team pad, which will be used by all Fnatic players"

Also using the words;

"codeveloped by the team and Everglide"

is rather misleading, as most people here have said, nice looking mouse pad, but thats all it is. It's an everglide pad with you're logo on it so in the same post to say it's co-developed and then to say...

"The pad is a standard Everglide Titan branded with the Fnatic logo"

However i don't think the wording of a press release is the crucial matter here, obviously everyone "spins" stuff to sell their product.

What i think most people here are commenting on is about the subject matter and if it's appropriate to esr. To call the release of a clan mousemat "major hardware news" is imo rather a "big claim". But then you might say what is major hardware news, to which i don't have an answer, perhaps something like a new graphics card that will run games a 10x the fps of before or something like that. I would hope that the people reading this realise that it's not an aggresive post, one to "flame" fnatic and indeed eye, however i think things like esr need to remain subjective rather than an extension of "all clan news". The chances are that because it's just an everglide pad with the fnatic logo on it, the target organisation is fnatic fans, which can be found on fnatic's website rather than esr. I've had a look at the other major hardware news and this covers new releases from the likes of logitech, which i personally find ok. People should be informed about new products from companies, but i think when clans start getting involved it gets a little dicey. Obviously fnatic and eye want the coverage and for people to see their product but is esr the place to showcase this?

Regards

215

i don't see why esr isn't the place to showcase it.

it's clearly gaming related and i'm sure some people will find it a useful post knowing that this product is now available, as for those who don't find it useful... so what? it's just a post, move along.

ahh comeon fanboi, why should i care if fnatic launches a retailpad with their logo on huh? seirously...

i myself don't like the look of the pad, but it doesn't mean i think the post shouldn't exist. the more content on esr the better in my opinion.

you're not gonna agree/like everything that's ever posted. wake up.

Go start your own site then, called it "everything that anonymous internet germans care about", bye!

I've outlined my opinion above...

ESR is a community site, not a place to showcase CLAN merchendise. The pad isn't revolutionary, it's just a normal everglide pad (as stated by fnatic) with fnatic branding. That kind of "advert" which is all it is should be on the clan websites, not on a massive community information site. If it were revolutionay with a truly frictionless surface which completely rewrote the laws of physics, and had the fnatic logo on it... well bring it on. But it's not, it's just a cheap advertising slot. It's not the post itself which i am commenting on, but the nature of the post.
On the note of "knowing the product is available" if people want a new mouse pad they would go to a website and browse it. e.g. everglide find one they liked and buy it. If they were a fan of fnatic they would be looking on the fnatic site where i'm sure it's major news.

Regards

215

So what goes on in the community?
A big clan A released it's new mousepad, a small and for some interesting fact/update, a lot of people like to know .

By United Kingdom Sujoy - Reply to #47
It's a new mouse surface which is quite relevant to gamers on ESR I figure. It's not like they release new mousepads every day.

Clearly the people that started and the admins that post very regularly on this website are on the same line on what this page should offer and what not. And clearly you are not on the same line. So my advice is that you start looking for a new home-community-site since this is clearly not right for you. Always good to try to make the world and internet a better place though.

Tbh lauke it doesn't keep me up at night, as you said, if you don't like what people post, don't read it.

With regard to your other post, marketing is right, but this isn't a site for marketing imo, obviously my opinion doesn't count for anything as i'm not an admin or whatever. It's major fnatic news, but it's not major esr news....

In your opinion that is. But clearly your opinion is not in the same as what people meant to do with ESR.
Nevertheless, I can understand that you take this view, maybe consider the words "I think" instead of stating things as facts next time as if you know it all.

Indeed why don't you read the posts, i have put in all my posts countless times "i think" "imo"

Infact i started the post you replied to with
"I've outlined my opinion above..."

Which contained
"I would hope that the people reading this realise that it's not an aggresive post, one to "flame" fnatic and indeed eye, however i think things like esr need to remain subjective rather than an extension of "all clan news"."

So take some of your own advice before going on some flaming spree.

I first read the post and decided not to reply to it.
Then I read it again, atleast the first part and you are telling me that I should not say the things you mentioned. Sorry, I (lol) will not say it again!!! My bad! Sorry for that.

Reading further into you're post I have to see the post I reply to know is correct so that's something I actually do have to appologize for.

One word: Marketing.

Did you think I came up with all those lines?

like EVERY single company in the world Everglide does marketing to promote their product and let as many people as possible know it's there and of course you make it sound more perfect as the product actually is.
Go to sony forums, go to the philips ones, and after that microsoft and macdonalds, and after that nike and adidas, and after that every other company in the world, and show them what you are made of, those overreacting basterds!

Why are we not allowed to do this? You can read like a normal person and not take it all to serious and get all emotional.

Yes, the world is not perfect, and you know what? There are even people on this world that lie, better prepare for the real life 215 since it's craaaaaaaaaazty, craaaazy.

By the way, we actually gave a really good review on the pad and decided they could just release it since it was good already (the everglide titan one, indeed the fnatic version is just some different paint, we are not saying it's different apart from the astehtic aspects).
And you know what? We are actually helping a lot with the unfinished products that are going to be released in a while, when they're done. Atm they are definitaly not perfect and we did give quite some feedback at the GC in Germany and if all goes well, some of them indeed are going to be baddass good, and clearly I'm not afraid to say that.


For the post thingy. I think it is ridiculous that some people actually take the effort to read and whine about a post they rather not see at this website.
If you don't like a certain post, why bother reading it? You only have to change the direction of your eyeballs and not see it. Clearly there is also a big crowd that is interested and for some it is nice to know that a certain team has a certain product. Just to be updated about that, of course you can make your judgements about it if it's good that a team should have it or not. So basically, don't worry about it or start your own site.

who made that one major btw??

pfff I stick my clothpad in the washing machine!

dang that mofo comes out so clean the reflection of light is blinding! :D

Oh Joy, a clan puts out a specially coloured pad, that for all uses is identical to one already out... and it's news? :O

seriously?? do we need all the ads here from fnatic and eye as well? issat really necessary?? damn admin fanboys, hope you get op in their channels at least if you havent already >:/

It's a new mouse surface which is quite relevant to gamers on ESR I figure. It's not like they release new mousepads every day.

I was under the impression that it was just a bog standard everglide pad with their logo on it? not a new surface developed by the fnatic team?

Yea but you could say the same of most mousepads :). I guess I don't understand the whole mousepad thing myself either.

Only pros have the fnatic mouse pad right now, so statistically you are more likely to be pro if you have one.

You can't deny the facts!

no, apparently they launch two of them at the same day (fnatic, eye)

its far away from a new surface, it will be a random clothpad with a fnatic logo on it, and they start with the same shit like fat while they say "yes we developed it and we didnt just put our name on it"

i dont mind too much tho, but i feel like those news could be spared really and that its far away from majornews, specially because its just another random ad

was a slow news day, more content the better, don't complain, contribute!

so is cloth the new hotness now?

I've never seen it in action but it sounds pretty shitty.

cloth has always been 'hotness'

COOL NOW I CAN PLAY LIKE ANDREW RYDER

leto pad pls

ye gimmie, no bs tho i want a func leto pad ;<

"The pad is a standard Everglide Titan branded with the Fnatic logo in orange and white"

Been codeveloped?

Everglide: do you like the design?
Fnatic: yes

ill stick with my dkt pad. the rest of these are pathetic rips

fnatic's teh king and i must say im a fanboy! \\o \o/ o// ;)

I'm still using a supermat I got from the US 2 years ago or so....I just wash it every now and it feels brand new :O

how do you wash it?

give me one.

Not a fan of the colors, but if it works well I would use it.

Looks nice enough. Don't see much reason to buy it over any other though.

???????????TF

Like the design tbh! will be investing in a new pad around q4 time, gonna be a tough desicion :x

Somethings like fps may affect your gaming performance in my opinion buying a new mousemat wont make you better, ur better of practicing on the mousemant you own.

Nah ,it's not that easy. If you ever get used to a pad and then go try another one that can not keep up with it you'll notice.

steelpad qck for the win ;D

tbh, mousemats don't make a player good, but they can help. I know i play better with a good mousemat than with a bad one.

No, a player makes a good mousepad! (mouz|kiLLu made his own from a cutting pad)

i mistakenly took someone else's cloth pad at a LAN 2 years ago... and i still have it

fucking bastard that's mine

I would like to buy this fnatic shirt if it is not to expensive but it is for sure to expensive.

https://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=864891

afaik our shirts aren't for sale, only given out to those who are part of the team (player/staff)

*suggests to sizah a fan shirt*

fnatic//fanatic

gheghe

God so many grumps moaning. The good is that clans are getting involved with companies and being taken seriously, that a good sign of growth and recognition.
Problaby over some people's heads, but very good news for esports.

The improvement of clans marketingwise is obviously not welcomed by the community. It's a huge step forward that teams like fnatic, SK, mTW, ... can close deals with manufacturers to create their specific products. Of course it won't be a _new_ product since the time is too early to invest lots of money in designing and conceiving products and material by professionals themselves (the only one able doing that has been fatal1ty so far). As any clan, it's just a marketed product with logo's and an appealing design. SK steelpads, fnatic everglidepads, they're all the same as their original - unmarketed teamwise - mousepad. One thing that might pop out is that the Everglide TITAN (which is a brand new everglide pad) has not been for sale in most parts of Europe lately. Fnatic helped some way, due to their representatives in Europe, promoting and releasing the product.

I'm currently using the Everglide Titan Monstermat, and I like it allot! So I think this mat is great aswell. As for the Fnatic logo on top? It came out pretty nice.

zomg WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE !?

Posting? ;)

lol zomgetf old topic ^^

i thought we were done with this

some noob bumped it