I'm really curious on how this game will be..

most hardcore gamers ARE ugly.... no worries ;]

shit, and i was tryin to sleep with all of them.

LOL U WITRE NEWS AT FIVE IN THE MORNING LOLZ?

I don't live in Sweden... different timezone for me.. Learn how to spell my friend. :)

ok sry meant to write wriet

write lolz

There's a nifty feature above your actual post called edit. ;D

4real??++

Werd.

ait canny!

LOL U WITRE A REPLAY AT HALF PAST SIX IN THE MORNING LOLZ? :D

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No quake 4 preview? I hope id DIES OF CANCER.

make that aids =)

AIDSCANCER in the EYES!!!1

headcancer!

i really don't think it's id's fault (i know your comment was a joke-but i wanna put it somewhere near the top =P)

raven's the company that's been creating the game for 3 years now, but the problem is they've created a bunch of other games during their q4-time. they're probably not even close to 25% complete, and they don't really have anything good to show (at all). maybe they coulda just made a pure-cutscene trailer or something, i dunno

Seriously, is there ANYONE left who thinks Raven aren't just whacking off and/or way out of their depth?

The media creation demands of new FPS's are absurd: HL2 and Doom3 have made that very clear. When even the best are running a year+ late, the mediocre are in REAL trouble.

I disagree, since Doom 3 didn't have any release date at all, so you can't say it's one year or two years late. On the other hand VALVe seems to be getting more like 3D Realms, promising something and slowly dying in their own lies.

VALVe software? Dying? ¿.ó

Considering videos of playable versions of Half-Life 2 have been wowing the gaming public since E3 I don't think it's like 3D Realms & Duke Nukem Forever at all - the game seems very close to completion. I would say the "lies" concerning stated release dates actually help VALVe in terms of hype generated and coverage recieved, rather than contributing to their death.

i saw a video of the first levels of of duke forever a few years ago...

I said

videos of playable versions

As in, people that have played it have talked about it. Wheras all I have seen is the demo. I don't know of any journalists having played DNF, though...

well thats not entirely true. although id never said a definite release date, they let everyone think it'll be released around summer 2003. remember the big commercial at e3 2002?

good point

blaaa :X

We want screenshots :X

"After all, id hasn't let us down before."

Let's all pretend Team Arena never existed :)

Team what ?

hahaha ;)

I liked TA. What's wrong with it?

Everything.

i think its bad announcing games before their finished. it makes the community restless, and anything that happens during production becomes more of a problem than it should be. quake 3 is still a wonderful game, the best imo (fps that is). people are still playing religiously, and even if there were no plans for q4, i think q3 could still stand the test of time. so why annouce the production of a new quake instead of releasing a new quake. if i were id, i would have waited until the game was completed, then at qcon (would plan the completion of q4 around the time of qcon) we introduce it to all the gamers. the only question would be would we have a section for q4 where the gamers could play, or would we completely substitute q3 with q4. i think the second everyone walked into the event theyd be flung into a drunken state of bliss, and everyone would dance and drink and be merry.

im not thinking of it from a marketing perspective so im probably talking rubish. its my fantasy though , so damn you!

I think they should release a brand new game at qcon and throw a tourney for it. No one gets to practice beforehand. No one knows anything about the game.

Would be interesting to see who comes out on top.

I dunno if im correct in thinking this, but if q4 was released at qcon im pretty sure everyone would rather play it then q3, i know i would! just use q4 in the q3 tourney and everythings cheery :)

Cheers to your idea... I think that's the ultimate in adaptability and versitility. THAT would be the success of a true "ultimate" gamer.

wheat

To be honest, I think that's exactly what they had in mind for this year's event.

Announcing games like DooM 3 and Quake 4 before they are finished is nothing but good marketing. :)

"im not thinking of it from a marketing perspective so im probably talking rubish." :)

Smells like Duke Nuken Forever if you wanna know !

No, we don't!

i'm not gonna be impressed unless it has some really groundbreaking features, not stuff every other game has

Hard to do in a arcade FPS game, you cant have much more what you have now. Ok you can take a piss at a wall, but you can do this now in Postal2 already.

lol ya schmuck take a look at quake1, quake2..quake3 ? was any of the three 'stuff every other game has' or more the likes of 'really groundbreaking features' granted your allowed sceptisicm but as long as carmack has a say in it we shouldnt be dissapointed. What you can and imo SHOULD rant at is gay raven taking over.

carmack is programmer, not designer
(and what makes a good game is good design, built on good engine, which means good engine doesnt automatically grant good game)

last good Raven game i played was Heretic 2 (coop multiplayer!)

Ahem...

- Soldier of Fortune 1 & 2
- Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
- Jedi Knight : Jedi Academy
- Star Trek: Voyager - Elite Force

I think these are very good games. I mean, both SP and MP, but you're talking about games you've played so never mind :)

i played all of those game and in my honest opinion they sucked ass :) (well not entirely but definitely mediocre games, but you get the point)
but then again i'm not star wars or star trek fanboi either

What? you dont like starwars? You have problems....

please note the word "fanboi" - which means dumb, blind and unhealthy obsession

/me throws away lightsaber

Fanboi? Not me ma'am! ;)

If they aren't far enough to impress ppl with the gameplay they will have to just show gfx, and then the problem is that it probably wont look as impressive as the unreal3 movie. The content ive seen from q4 so far rules, but the engine is "just" doom3.

i hope q4 supasses all expectations. There havent been any games recently that have done that, most have been a let down, painkiller for example.

I'm sure that q4 will have something spectacular to show.. (maybe like hl2 after 5 years of no news)

but I fear that Q4 wont be a good multiplayer game :( they are focusing on singleplayer... I even heard stuff about vehicles =\

Ah well never mind... With raven making it I not too keen on it till I see it tbh.

Back to PainKiller!!!

Bleh, please no more Q4 news until actually something is released, like the Q4 art we had some time ago. I wish Id software would STFU and release the game when its finished, instead of hyping it up 3-4 years before its actually coming out.

anyhow i'll be getting my game at hyper, hyper value !!

alt.binaries.games

Gee the guy just answered some questions. How is that hype?

After all, id hasn't let us down before.

Given quakeworld, quake 2 was a let down.

and every q2 player will disagree with you :PPP

But not everyone is a q2 player, that's the point... the statement is incorrect... and as someone said before... look at Team Arena... what a great game that was

I see, but I don't think you explained your point very well. But I get what you are saying.

q2 is STILL fun!

Come on guys, why bother untill it gets out in the stores?

wow, they're not showing next month a game from which we haven't seen any screenshot in 3 years of so called "work" ?

*how surprising*

PEople here seem to forget that Q4 is focusing on the single player mode! I remember a few articles stressing this!
Any way with doom3 coming out, whats the sudden rush for q4?

how long has it been since those articles have been done? Just because it's focusing on SP doesn't mean the MP won't kick ass...Quake 2 for example.

Although i dislike Q2 i see your point perfectly. In consideration to the singleplayer part of Q2 the MP part is excellent.

I really dont see how they wouldnt have an awesome multiplayer. If i had to guess, theyre going to be focusing on sp "more so" than they did in previous games, not that q4 will be geared completely toward the sp. I could (probably am) be wrong though, just speculation.

http://www.homelanfed.com/index.php?id=1385

...The other big announcement was that Raven Software is indeed creating Quake IV. Raven's head man Brian Raffel also revealed little about the game, except that it would be based on the Doom 3 engine and that it would be a single player oriented game that takes place in the Stroggos universe of id's Quake II. Activision will be publishing both Quake IV and the new Nerve-id project, but no word on who will be publishing id's Doom 3...."

old interview.. to further make a point look at the titles Raven software have made...
http://www.ravensoft.com/frameset.html

all titles are more known for there SP qualities than MP. Anyway since Quake 4 will have the same engine as Doom 3, the multiplayer aspects will be similiar.We will see, I am just not too optimistic about Q-4 regarding MP.

Given how many people thought quake 2 sucked, that's a bad example ;)

They haven't even annouced the games for the actual event yet but there talking about other games. what a noob the ID guy is... annouce the damn lan games

If it's not made by iD then who honestly gives a fuck?