haha

How do you register for the Gears of War 3v3 tournanet?

by not replying to me.

lel

hahahaha

Ok. Then I'm out. I won't be there, so now I won't be on the list either.

Weeee 4 RTS games and no DM game for PC.

Tony Hawk's Project 8 (1v1)

!

yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh GEARS... AND PROJECT 8 YES

I must say gears is quite ownage

:(
well, atlest there is wc3

Rofl, 4 RTS 1on1 games, no 1on1 FPS game n1.

WOOT!!!!!!!!!!! CNC3

Yay, no 1on1 deathmatch game! (Am serious here by the way)

rofl yeah with 4 rts games S korea might take alot of place....

Do they avoid 1on1 FPS with intention?

Yes, DM games don't have a large player base, they don't attract much attention, and the whole community is a total bitch.

FIFA Soccer 2007 (1v1)
Need for Speed Carbon (1v1)
Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars (1v1) (?)
Age of Empires III: The WarChiefs (1v1)

these games surely attracts a lot of attention

They obviously have a larger player base though (Or potential player base) and I doubt the FIFA community for example whines about every last thing?

The DM community can't even decide what is good for itself it's just not a great area for tournament organisers to really go for. Especially WCG who are based in a part of the world where DM gaming is even smaller than the rest of the world.

If they want player base, use ET or COD2, or even BF2345, these games have more players in it then any of mentioned above

ET = 5vs5/6vs6
COD2 = 5vs5/6vs6
BF2142 = 99999999999999999vs9999999999999999999999

Whatever...

It's probably less people playing that AoE3 game than Painkiller...and noone caring about it.

Actually loads of people play AoE3, although they are not nearly as competitive as other games.

I think this list is a joke: nfsc, c&c3, aoe3, gow and thp8 shouldn't be there. There are better options than DoA (VF5 mainly, probably T5, not to talk about 2D games) and FIFA (PES).

Age of Empires III: The WarChiefs (1v1)
this game attracts a lot of Microsoft

CnC3 woooot

this event is now a joke bb

its a joke since 2002 tbh

Pretty expensive joke...

wtf? 4 crappy rts games ( tho starcraft isnt :) ) and no DM games. lol

plz ...... where is the dm games ....... :( . dm is dyiiiiing?

age3 lol
C&C lol
war3 ok
SC of course

WCG : LOL :/

imho WCG always been the "bad" event of the year (speaking about CPL/ESWC/WCG) when speaking about games played :/

totally agree! :)

aoe3? they sould add barbie and ken to attract even more youngsters =)
sc? they should add tetris instead to attract even more asian freaks ;-)
wc3.. cool game
cnc.. will be cool 2 i think.

cnc 3 o_o

sad

SC <3

I didn't play the C&C3 demo so, is it actually any good? Or is it just another run of the mill RTS?

Regardless of how good or bad the actual game is, Kane > all

i tested the demo, found out that you cant play as NOD and uninnstalled the crap right away!

you can play as nod in the demo, with a little trick lol

well.. just dont stand there... Tell me! :P

http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=203202

noob :))

Guess it's time to practice CNC3

R O F L

cod2 and css > 1.6

hm, remind me not to go to dublin for a maths degree ;)

From steampowered:
Counter-Strike 104,282 71,958 6.286 billion
Counter-Strike: Source 26,426 33,302 1.810 billion

From gamespy
Call of Duty 2 7347 servers, 6362 players

From gamesmonitor
Call of Duty 2 9,756 players

Though, serverspy.. not sure if I trust these numbers as there's no way source has more than 1.6 :P

Call of Duty 2 10658
CS:Source 57677
Half-Life 33266

/I know what you meant, I was bored so decided to spend 5 mins getting these

6.286 billion cs'ers? that's nearly earths whole population, rolf!

minutes played...

Boycott!

ahah sucked in quake4ers CPL 1 - WCG - 0

And all other comps 12312312 - CPL 1

Wow...

Talk about strange game selection.

:DDD
idiots...

I am on the WCG 2007 new promo video...but I wasn't even a gamer :O

well, youre registered on a gaming website too, what are the odds!

*rolleyes*

OMG!!!
ASSHOLES
NO QUAKE4!!! noobs! :((((

rofl, there clearly seems to be a game missing.... i mean seriously....


....



...


where is halo2 ?!

=D

It wasn't there last year and WCG doesn't want to give the Americans another gold medal (and the Canadians a free silver).

that was a joke ffs ...

should add [joke][/joke] otherwise our american friends wont understand its a joke

lol no 1v1 DM games GG

rofl @ four fag console games and not even one dm game

And I'm gonna win one of em.

So you failed at Quake and now you try at joke console gaming. Way to fail at life.

yea, console gaming is a real joke, must be why the top mlg players are laughing at you with their decent salaries

O LOLZ THE MONEYZ GET DA MONEyZ NGG

They can't laught at me. I play a superior game, and I have fun playing it. I will not humillate myself for money in front of the ones who care and believe in REAL competitive games.

yea, I can tell you're having so much fun, that's why you're on here putting other games down instead of playing it!

I can't play anything now since this computer doesn't even have minesweeper. Instead I discuss with someone that has only pointless arguments.

why bother even posting this as news...the wcg is dead to me.

To you, and everyone with some dignity left.

ajahahha Quake got owned. AGAIN!

owned, the allstar hype has died :)

YAY! Tony Hawk P8!

It's a wrap.

awe, crap... Time to quit q4

like you would have been to WCG...

Yeah nice job at pointing out the obvious and the basis of my sarcastic reply.

8)
whaddaya know, maybe he's gonna reply to you with the exact same sentence :>

gotta be good at q4 first

i own you at q4 son



;)

probably, i suck

all this reverse psychology is doing my head in

They wont use a game that 40 players and WSVG like but noone else, these games on the list will give WCG alot of more attention.

Just fucking add any quake plz. This is fucking insane, honestly...

Even the so called "q4haters" enjoy watching those streams, i'm sure.

Ok so gears of war is a very neat game and all, but come on, 3on3?!

Indeed - I'm a casual gamer and don't play a lot of Quake but I'd rather watch a Q4 stream than any of the other crap they are serving up .. meh :(

dm scene just needs to be underground

fuck popular culture!

life is not worth living

pff no q4..ahhaha

Guys, just to let you know... if WCG is going to let me play THPS and Gears of War at the finals, I'll be the first ever person to win 2 world championships at one event.

No autographs, please.

You will also be the second person to win 2 world championships of shitty games nobody cares about (after fatalonety with AvP2 and D3 or PK).

http://kotaku.com/gaming/gears-of-war/gears-o...230002.php

Point being? How many of those people have EVER heard of competitive gaming and/or would consider competing?

You're probably looking at pretty much exactly the same spectator numbers as any 1on1 FPS, because FPS's have always had the competition aspect so integral to their existence.

Gears of War is just another game for consolers to believe that they have skills when it's just a dumbed down version of the games that spawned it.

Play the game first, thanks.

You are talking like if any console game could be considered seriously at being competitive.

Wake up please.

Some fighting games are played at quite a high level

Im talking about games with the words "mainstream-next-gen-kewl-etc" on developer's minds, not ports or evoled ports from arcade fighthing games.

FLICKRAIL TO THE FACE!

Oh wait, you can't do that, can you... Consoles are good for fighting games, sports games and driving games - not shooters. Moving from a mouse to an analog stick isn't a small loss, it's genre-defining. Being able to react quicker than someone else is key, and all console games are limited by the first line in the game:
"const int TURN_SPEED 20"

Just accept it and move on, consoles are made for those of us who don't care about competition.

I care about competition, and I play consoles too :)

Part of the reason I'm really playing is to prove that PC players will dominate console players, even if I am the best PC player to exist.

you better not fail then or.. :D

Consoles are very good at what they are made to render: GAMES!
Please, wake up and stop whining about the so called "competitive scene", where no-one cares about visuals and other things, that actually SELL. Nobody gives a damn s**t about the competitive gaming, and I don't think that's is going to be changed anytime soon.

Do you think, that games for WCG2001 or 2002 (for example) have been chosen because of their "competitive potential"?
LOL, guys!!

Age of EMPIRES II: The Conquerors
HALF-LIFE: Counter-Strike
2001 FIFA World Cup
StarCraft: Brood War
Unreal Tournament
Quake III: Arena

What's wrong with that? Beats this year's list hands down. There's only one game that isn't highly competitive. This year, there's 8 games that aren't.

And really, why would you be on this site if you didn't care about competitive gaming?

No, great game-list actually. But you think, that theese games are there because they're competitive? No!

Everybody's whining that WCG was something good, and now it's worse... Well, I think the core idea of the event have never changed from the start, till now. Nobody really cared about the competitive gaming. Ever. Back then it just happend that the selected games were "competitive friendly".

And YES, I do care about competitive gaming, but I also try to be a realist.

So no one cared about gaming then, which means today, when there's over 10 teams paying wages to their players and several hundred professional or semi-professional gamers, the spectator amounts are the same?

WCG are screwing themselves by flipping the competitive community the finger. They would be nowhere without the support, coverage and hype that sites like GotFrag, Amped and ESR generate.

These may be games that people BOUGHT, but they're not games that people would consider playing competitively for X number of years in the future. The competitive community is more than happy to stay put and play StarCraft for over 10 years - we're the ones that give events like WCG its longevity.

And reading through the site, it sure as hell seems like they're trying to promote competition...

Well, actually there IS a scene for NFS: Carbon, in Poland this game is bigger than Quake4 (i'm serious!) :) It also has a lot of fans in Germany, Russia, Brazil and few other countries, so it's definete;ly a good pick. Also, the season-related NFS gameplay that changes every edition is good for competition, allowing new players to match up the skills with old masters and make some rivalry with them :)

It's all relative.

If you're used to pc shooters then YES controlling an FPS on a pad is uninspiring and shite.
Partly why I no longer play console FPS.

BUT

If you don't know any different then playing on a console can be just as much fun as on a pc providing you don't know what you're missing on the PC.

more and more console players will start using keyboard and mouse when they get more serious.

Thats true. I told the same to a mate and he wouldn't believe me for years. He's got a pc now and just the other day he said I was right about mouse and keyboard being better.

Stuff like that happens loads with pc and games, he knows best. But eventually he admits I was right.

So certain of yourself and so wrong.

Consoles ARE the future of pro-gaming and anyone with half an ounce of vision has known this for YEARS
You talk from a very narrow minded POV. You think the world revolves around PC gamers and what they consider to be worthy, but 3 million sales and probably 1million + X-box live account's are going to command way more influence than something PC-Q4 with a handful of players.

Sponsors don't give a toss about the quality of the players or whether the game is really good enough for pro's.
Do you really think they care or appreciate if someone is shooting 60% RG on pc to 25% on the X-box?
Or the size on a hitbox?

All the thing's you think are important are an illusion.

Consles are a million times easier to host a tourney for aswell.
config's, hardware etc.

Consoles will probably end up evolving into PC's as we know it anyway because they are the ultimate platform.
you can work and play and soon everyone will want an all in one device.
But it will still be console market that is to thank for pro-gaming.

Not the joke that it is now where literally a handful of people can earn money.

I don't enjoy console games because they're simplified to the point of the absurd, but your simplification argument carries one major disadvantage, and that's that tournament PC's could be standardised and in fact Severity's already going to standardise the tournament game. If you can't configure it in the GUI, you can't change it, which is what console players currently do. Changing keyboard and mouse really doesn't matter, it's just preference.

The problem about these illusions is that they're not really illusions as far as the players are concerned. These are actually factors, and that's one major indicator that PC gamers take the whole thing more seriously than consolers. But hell, ignorance is bliss, so it's all right to set back the whole pro-gaming scene 10 years to when aiming was keyboard-only and games didn't have a jump button, because they just don't know better?

Sponsors can go fuck themselves as far as I'm concerned. Gaming can never truly be considered a sport until it becomes self-sufficient and thus financially independent from the sponsors. They'll continue to do whatever the hell they want while we still depend on their money. When coverage and spectators bring in enough money to keep the sport running on its own (critical mass if you will), then it will be players and tournaments who decide what to play and how to play it.

We haven't reached that point yet, but I don't think setbacks like this are going to get us there any faster.

http://www.forbes.com/personalfinance/2006/12...x_inl.html

The console games business is going to die and be replaced by something better. It might not be because making game consoles is now so expensive that they will break the platform companies themselves; it will also probably not be because you will be able to pirate console games on the net like any other piece of static media, and it is certainly not because computer games are a fad.


Will there be a PS4? Perhaps, but not a PS5.

CONSOLES ARE THE FUTURE DO NOT DISAGREE WITH JAMERIO OR YOU WILL BECOME PART OF THE way2ez CREW

No one really knows, but it's not really the machine that's an issue here. It's the audience.

try watching ItWasLuck IV[1], it's not *as* bad as you would think for a (mostly/all pub) halo movie

but yes, halo is still a noobed version of dm, but to be that good using retard controls is a skill

[1] http://www.ampedesports.com/files/1802

how many people bought Q4?

The PC Games will be:

WarCraft III : The Frozen Throne (1v1), ok, nice
StarCraft : Brood War (1v1), ok, nice
Half-Life : Counter-Strike (5v5), hmmm
FIFA Soccer 2007 (1v1), PES ?
Need for Speed Carbon (1v1), lol
Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars (1v1), dunno
Age of Empires III: The WarChiefs (1v1), lol

And the console games will be:

Gears of War (3v3), omg
Dead or Alive 4 (1v1), why not
Project Gotham Racing 3 (1v1), lol
Tony Hawk's Project 8 (1v1), ahah

...what everyone else said about rts and DM...

LOUD NOISES

wcg = noob championship

Where THE F*** is Quake 4???
Where the hell is the public magnet in the form of a FPS for that matter?


These being ESR is belive there are alot, alot of people who will basiclly ignore WCG for yet another year.
Am I right or am I right?

No Quake.. ahah
They're turning themselves from once the greatest gaming event into a one of th ususal competitions, which are held in a great quantity during the year. I mean all the W3 & CS championships ...
It makes wcg not a big event tbh.

4 RTS's does seem to be pushing it somewhat....

pity there isnt another field to represent PC shoot em ups, CS is all very nice, but doesnt demonstrate the PC's ability to provide hugely different experiences, even with in the FPS genre, CPM or wSw compared to the realism shooters for example.

im guessing the Q4 event wasnt too popular on site, or on the net etc, that they decided to drop it...

omfg

Its really disapointing that a 1v1 DM game ins't show this year again. If they want the player base, then why not UT2k4? If they want the prestiege, then why not Q4?

Then again, I guess the DM community needs to quit bitching and enjoy their game more before people will stand up and take notice.

Like that fucking matters? Signups/sales dictate games.

The biggest joke on that list is still C&C3. IT'S NOT EVEN RELEASED YET. Odds are high it'll suck for the first 6 months.

lol warhammer out and quake4 not in.

so happy :|

warhammer mass migration for c&c, probably completly umbalanced, and will still be at seatle, once EA dont give a shit for theirs games after released.

WCG by choosing these noob games lowered its reputation below the scale of respect and can proudly change its abreviature to World Noob Games . GG

WCG administration ,"kill yourself by running into the wall".

/cv restart vote

f1

SC & CC3 nice one , q4 :ASD:D:SAD:DAS:

WCG is good for one thing:
starcraft tournament
rest is shit :|
If ESWC would get rid of err say Trackmania and get Starcraft in, then it would be the best tourney ever!!!

except for the part where all the french cheat and win in it

cfg cheat lolol

good job wcg. they realized q4 sucks and wont have a very large player base/audience. good marketing decision tbh

where is quake? cant have NO quakes in there? fuck this wcg thing, its boycotted from now on.

next fo eswc even way2ez & igni > eswc. adn they r really shit.

Tasteless for SC:BW shoutcasting please! <3<3

Oh man, agree so hard. <3

oh definately :D. best rts caster ever? quite possibly

Maybe if a few more organizations do this it will finally bring a realization to the DM community that we need to support a game before getting money thrown at it...

And, as we can see here, the RTS scene would never even need to make that realization themselves if they were in the same situation. RTS bias ftl.

5 EA games. nice.

gutted :( i quite fancied adminning thr Q4 comp again :(

wow no dm 1v1 game... thats disapointing

Did they even take out votes seriously?

wow c&c 3, totally awesome =D

Super super super weak...

They paid WCG to put their games there.

Yay .. Welcome to the New Competitive Game Play.

So.. What's Gonna be Next Year .. People Playing "Rayman Raving Rabbids" (which is quite fun imho) individually and then comparing scored together to determine the winner.

HOP HOP HOP ..

a Note : I'm not a hardcore quake gamer anymore (GW :( ) but from what I read in this thread .. if they chose Q3 or Q4 as a game in WCG would even people on this website agree to play a certain version/MOD ?
and this website is a small part of the Quake Community . Of course I Don't think that's the reason they did it !

What I noticed more than the lack of skill-based game is the incredible lack of... teamplay !

9 games played 1v1 ! 9 for only 2 team v team ! o0


This becomes a worrying phenomenon to see the international competitions gradually killing the team play, which in my opinion must remain the basic rule, and to see impoverishment like the PK story.
When the CPL, and ESWC after Lanarena7, gave up TeamDeathMatch I thought that would touch unfortunately and wrongfully only the fast-paced and skill-paced FPS, but I see that I'm obviously wrong. This is a confrmed regression.
I feel this outcome hasn't got a clue, because of the problem of impoverishment, because of the misconception of the current FPS gametype kind with bf/dod/et/rtcw etc etc which are often played even more than the 5v5 (6v6, 8v8…).

Why? I do not understand, exept for the short-term money problem to sponsor and travel teams etc. Any other explanation seems to me wobbly.

WCG, an Electronic Arts division.

lol

way2manygames

god, aoe is just not suited for competition + c&c,sc,wc3 are enough rts games
:( no fps games, well maybe we will get some last minute tourney again, hope so
and racing games like Need for Speed Carbon should be for console competitions

Another event you dont have to give a damn about.

dont mind not having Q4...
but what the hell is age of empires doing there?

It's nearly always been in WCG. AoE2 was in the first WCG ever.

but... but.... argh >_<

AoE2 was in WCG for 2002, AoM was in for 2003 and then they disappeared until now. Wonder why they brought it in randomly.


*realizes Microsoft is a sponsor of WCG*

They forgot one game to that reflects thier market.


Hello Kitty: Island Adventure

"Sorry, the page you requested was not found.
The page you were trying to access may have expired.

Please visit WCG home page and try searching the information that you want to find."

they removed the news post? lol

This is a joke lol. GG WCG, you just lost the lead to ESWC.

You really put WCG over ESWC? ESWC has been the best international event since 2005. Even CPL at its peak could not top ESWC right now.

But WCG at least does improve somewhat each year, but I think it will never catch up to ESWC now.

ESWC 2003 (Y)
ESWC 2004 (Y)
ESWC 2005 (Y)
ESWC 2006 (N)
ESWC 2007 (Looks like a N)

cooller/unkind fanboy! :D

It's funny because these games have been decided by a poll, so it looks like that AoE3 did beat Q4 in terms of player base. But hey, keep on writing angry replies on ESR, that'll surely help! :)

I believe they use the poll results to help in the decisions, but the top voted games do not necessarily make it into the final selection.

Doubt it. It's either the game companies paid to get their games in there or Korea just wants to win them gold medals.

dont worry people. at the last minute, they'll definitely announce a quake tournament on a whim so players can miss flights or go unprepared.

heh ill kiss samsung´s ass if they return down of war to the gamepool. anyway its the best rts right now, after blizzard´s ones.

OMG possibly not true?

They better have Tony Hawk, and if not that then Gears of War :DDDDD

Damn, they still have the list on WCG.com minus one game, Tony Hawk :(

Dead or Alive 4 sucks ass... How about Tekken 5: Dark Resseruction or Virtua Fighter 5 instead.

CnC3 isn't even out yet, could've picked Company of Heroes or Dawn of War: Dark Crusade.

THP8 = LOLZ!

they pulled a quake4 with cnc3

No Supcom, snif. :'(

blobby volley 1v1 plz

BLOBBY OH MR BLOBBY NAHANAHANHANAHANAHNAHANHANAHANAH

"To clear up some earlier confusion, the original list posted was a mistake by WCG. The only difference with this one is that "Tony Hawk's Project 8 (1v1)" for the xbox 360 is not included."

they also forgot to include Q4

/me pffs at WCG

This just shows how poor FPS development teams really are these days. Not one true death match game on there. I bet you Quake4 wasn't even considered past preliminary discussion, and for good reason too. It's an awful game on an awful engine. Not hard to see why so many of us have withered away into virtual gaming retirement now is it?

go home fuck your baby sister!

Q4 sucks anyway, It's not about the community whining about this and that, it's just all these games as far as I can see, are great out of the box, maybe you'll need a patch provided by the developer but that's it. Q4 simply sucks at that, what you need in Q4 are patches, mods, maps, cfg's bla bla bla bla bla.

This is where UT shines, and I bet that UT3 will be played at the 2k8 WCG, since UT series always had some fun maps, and aren't as full of bugs as Q4, and Q3 for that matter.

For a MP game to be succesful, you'll have to be able to install it, click on the button "Multiplayer", click on a Random server and voila, you're playing.

At Q4 it goes like this: Install game trough CD, you start the game and it'll say that there is a patch, you'll download it, then when you join a server, you need Q4max, but there's no refference of that in Q4 itself, maybe in the servername or something, and you'll have to google for it. After that you'll need to download the maps, which I currently don't know how easy that is.

Noobs rather just insert the Fifa CD, click the MP button and play.

I'm usually a Quake fan, but this time all I can say is that id software should look to Epic for once to see how to create a finished game that people will enjoy over a longer time period.

No need to look at other studios. We not just agree but have already progressed well down this road, and future games will not suffer the "old problems" that often plague FPS games.

I hope we'll be able to see that in ET:QW

!

ur so right itsw not funny,
ppl here get blinded to ease of use, but in fairness, no q4 isnt easy to use, at all... say it is all u want but ur just codding urselves.
ppl will say its easy cos they like the game, simple as, there will be no fair and simple judgement on q4 and if there was to be by magazines etc, then it would be lucky to reach 7/10


of course the hardcore will tell me how much of an idiot i am, but i need not worry.... they all want to be Swedish neway ;)

and I'll be bored playing those newbs games.

quake does it for me, nothing else does.

Ofcourse, Quake's gameplay has always been superb, but the shit you had actually go trough to play Q3/Q4 is already enough for many noobs to not play quake. And noobs are the base of a community.

Yup...but so long as I can hop onto a q4max server and play CTF I am happy and newbies don't belong in pu servers anyways. I do admit that quake will die without new players though :)

eliminlament :(

what about quake?
why 4 RTS?

quit rubbing it in already

more than 1 rts.... only 1 team fps... cmon

Not a single game on that list is worth spectating....ZZZ fest....maybe some people like watching SC/WC3 and CS...other than that...omfg put me to sleep

sc is very exciting to watch with a good commentator like Tasteless. hell, i watch the Korean language vods and can usually figure out what's going on.

What a bunch of loosers! WCG go home.

All those RTS and no Quake? =(

Boycott!

Pathetic!

this thread wreaks of nerdrage

WCG is now officially a joke...Oh wait, it has been for awhile now, LOL!

i am happy cnc3 is in :)

em, yawn.
if i was a big RTS fan then yeah, id be excited. but no alas, there is nothing here i havent seen before really (except gears of war 3v3.... see ya in seattle girls ;) )
tbh, FOUR RTS games make this just a filler festival, no matter how much its hyped

Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars (1v1) :DDDDDDDD

The lack of a DM 1v1 PC game is stoopid. Why would you have 4 RTS games and no Quake?, also why would anyone choose FIFA over PES?.

Yeah, Quake out, but it's true, there is no clear 1v1 game at the moment. Q3-players decided to be stubborn about Q4, and we're currently locked in a situation where:
1) Q3 is clearly dying slowly
2) Q4 is dead before it even got started.

For 1v1/DM to become strong again, people need to gather around one clear alternative, and to draw sponsors it needs to be a NEW game. UT2k7 is coming up, but Quake players are definitely too conservative to embrace that.

1v1/DM is facing hard times...

A bunch of pretty stupid games, but hey money talks and WCG walks the walk :D

No fps 1v1 ? they are fucked up. I guess console games are slowly taking over the e-sport world. ;(

Great job WCG =/