oh noes! :<

oh yeses! <:

O-boy! I just loooove "Please log in to download files".. :(

Any chance of a Levitation Mirror?

Please :)

with reduced hitboxes!

uh... what?

info please?

crashes

Taken from www.rocketarena.com

looks like a good beta

have sex, make babies and make them rocket arena players

major this please, it's after all a nice way to get q4 players!

I had high expectations, and sadly I was dissapointed.

http://www.gparris.com/quake4/mods/ra405b1.zip

leech this, when you are a server admin you need to adjust some things with this zip cause it doesnt contain arena votes

for clients its no problem after all

85.25.130.108:29001

its fun after all (: for a beta real nice, the maps are also fun, but i am so boooored with that style/textures... one arena looks similar to q3 ra3 thunder, but the textures and the style in thunder is much better than in ra4...

You need the q4 xmas pack for it to run, too. And you wrote that it doesn't work with beta 1.1 twice, I already wrote that.

can someone please post some screenshots? :o

http://ra4.raplanet.com/wiki/index.php/Category:Beta_Screenshots

thanks nigger

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goth

nooooo the only reason i have quake 3 on my pc is for RA3, i hardly play quake 4 but i installed the beta update yesterday, anyone can tell me how to remove the latest update? i want RA4 !!!!!

https://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1020264

Eh, really shines of a lack of playtesting - even for a beta.

I mean c'mon, the maps missing textures for god sakes - no one even tested the release?

0.5 Beta...it's like open beta testing...

1.0 will be the first real release I guess.

maps are only missing textures if the server admins didnt read... servers have to have the quakemas pak on them since the maps use some the textures from it.

The missing textures are from the id q4 xmas pack. As its not the ra4 teams business to distribute id media, it was not included in the beta. Servers should have the id q4 xmas pack on servers whilst running ra4, and this will be a non issue.

Also, since when 1.1 FINAL point release comes out, it will by default include this pack, this will not be an issue in the future.

Makes a lot more sense now. You're not the type of person to mess up a pk4.

ps you've been fucking busy with q4 mapping

yeah, I have a lot of spare time atm :)

Shutup xfoo

Who the fuck are you?

does it matter? shutup already.

Mirror

SlashQuit.net (Australia)

for your gaming pleasure, a brand new mod for quake 4! unfortunately it doesn't work on the newest version! have fun!

who installs beta's :<

The same people that test a beta version of RA4 i guess :)

A newer beta version, modification, of your q4, after which you can't play on 'normal' servers anymore or an addition to q4. The addition I would install, but the patch? Never!

whats the new lighting mode? is it on automatically or is there a command for it?

r_ambientonly

r.i.p tdm.

q4 had tdm?

FFA where you tried not to shoot some people passes for TDM now :(

i try to shoot everyone in tdm

its a great start, this will help the q4-comunity to get back on track

The maps really seem rushed, both in terms of design and texturing. Oh well, it's an early beta...

yes, early beta is the key word here :)

We also kept the texturing and detailing pretty simple on the maps for those of us who dont have super computers :)

Rocket arena has never been a 'pretty' mod.

but i must agree, a couple of different textures would be nice ;>

Hey, I've played ra2 for years, and it's not all that eye-candyish, but trust me, it is definitely a beautiful mod. The map makers of ra2 were really professional. Heheh;p Trust me! To be honest, the ugliest mainstream ra2 map imo is edge, but it's design makes up for that like 800% LOL:p

not that i have any disrespect for g0th or any mapdesigner, but i really think it's a shame that an old RA3 map gets converted into q4, just because it didn't make it into ra3 1.8.

Noone, in general, played this map(TUR3) even when it was available in ra3 1.76 on a swedish RA3 top public server.

So for the purpose of the beta feedback _i_ think that both maps in the beta release are too big and have too much useless nonsense in them. As an example g0th's map features holes all over the map, making it pure hell to move around on, especially in infights.

imho mapdesigns should be as simple as possible but look good at the same time. I don't think that putting in holes all over the place and adding 8 jumppads or more is the solution to making a good map.

I think the RA mod took a very wrong turn when it started featuring maps like ra3map17, big massive maps which were only suited for at least 10vs10 play.

But hey that's just one man's oppinion! Still i believe that maps should be kept simple and somewhat suitable for 5vs5 clanwars.

A few things.

First, q4 is quite different from q3 (no matter how everyone tries to make them the same) so map should be judged on its individual merits in terms of how it plays in its specific game, rather than how it fared in a previous game. Just because a map worked (or didnt) in q3 doesnt necesarilly mean that it will work in q4. g0ths map may not have been extremely popular in q3 (most custom ra maps were NOT) but that is not necesarilly a reflection on how well it will play in ra4.

Secondly, I dont think ra turned in any direction when map17 was released. In fact, ra3map17 is smaller than ra3map1 :) My previous map, ra3map15, was small, and aimed at competetive 4v4 games, so when I designed 17, my goal was more to create a large, open, fun 'big pub server' map in the style of map1. Yes, I agree there are problems with it, but saying that previous ra maps were reasonably sized and match friendly really isnt very accurate. There were a few good match maps, but most were big open pub maps - which has really been the style all through ra3, with a few exceptions.

My current ca is also very small in comparison to most ra3 maps.

But in the end, different types of people like different types of maps, and its tough to please everyone - especially when there are only 2 maps in the release :) All of your feedback is greatly appreciated and I will take it into consideration when I update my level. Im sure more levels will be included in the final, and will be more condusive to other playing styles, so dont worry that you will be stuck with maps you dont like :)

yes sure i get your point, and i also like map15 for what it was (a good fast 4vs4/5vs5 map).

Sure some of the ra3 maps were large, but still some played and felt like being smaller than they actually were. (subjective) Mostly because they were big and open (good for rocket jumping) like map 1 and 12

And surely i get that you need some maps minded for cws and some for "the fun of it" and that's alright with me too as long as these type of maps are kept to a somewhat minimum (ra3map19 played pretty well on the swedish public and could be alot of fun too)

And yes sure, you can't please all people and asking you to do so would be wrong.

well i dont hope i killed your motivation, that was not what i was aiming for =)

Not at all, I appreciate all the feedback I can get (as long as its constructive) :)

thx for ra3map15 !

Well Mart33n I most say that you aren't that informed on the progress Quake talks have gone thure. I released the map as a beta at first (tur3) and the feedback i got weren't all shit as u claim. I got a decent response or a rather good one for being a ra3 map. So I released new versions of the map ever played tur7? or tur17?

Anyway thosse other version were liked by many ppl and they were played quite alot under some feew weeks before they were remove from the server. The main reason was that the map took to much space on the server.

I was asked to reduce the map size if i wanted to keep the map on the server witch i diden't sence i had my hoppings that ra3 1.8 would come out soon. My map would have been in the ra3 1.8 but we all know it haven't been a 1.8 version yet.

I am aware that the map might not work as good as it did i ra3 but its really hard to predict how a map is gonna play in a diffrent game, I'm trying to get as many opinions as i can. I thank u for shearing your veiw off the map. I will take your critique and hopfully learn off it :)

First of all, i did actually like your map for RA3. And i did try the different versions and i found it to be rather good and refreshing.

What i mean about it not being that popular is that it rarely went through when voted unless the server had it forced on, a shame really.

The reason i sound a little "grumpy" is because i had hoped for absolutely no remakes in RA4 and even though it was a shame your map didn't get any further in ra3, i would rather like to see you do something completely new for Q4. Mostly because i felt your map played well for RA3, but imho it does not live up to that feel in RA4 yet(eventhough it's a beta). That's why i am somewhat disappointed.

When i talked about your map being "pure hell" to move around on, it's not your fault really. Quake 4 movement is bad, really chumpy and heavy (pm_speed 350 feels very good though) and a map like Quake Talks doesn't really make the movement feel any better, more like an obstruction with all the holes, stairs, edges and so on.

So i still think you should stick with more plain surfaces for RA4 maps and not so many edges, ledges, jumppads and holes =)


And thanks for being a good sport about my "grumpy" post ;)

fuck, why i installed quake 1.1.
qmax doesnt work this doesnt, seems i ahve to reinstall:/

I posted this link already somewhere in this thread but here it is again, 2 ways to downgrade back to 1.0 without reinstalling:
https://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1020264

best switcher to date:

be sure to upgrade to the latest v1.1 beta patch
Grab:
http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0BGB429V5HWQ11WECQ9A842O0G

unzip 11-10-AND_BACK-WITH-FILES.zip to your quake 4 dir, keeping subdirs intact.
run 10.bat to switch back to v1.0.5.0 beta2 that allows sabot, ra4 etc....
run 11.bat to switch back to v1.1.0.2371 thatbreaks mod support for now.

Looks nice, but i don't see a rocket flying when i shoot one, just a small black dot.

play around with ra4_projectiletrails

yeah this "performance tweak" apparently ruins the gameplay as rockets and grenades are somewhat hard to see when the projectiletrails are removed.

other than that: good job so far.

The projectivetrail command also removes the flame from the back of the rocket, making it very difficult to see. Appearantly this is being fixed :)

vcz read readme ra4_trail shit should fix the job :>

It's err.. ok. gl i hope you have better plans for it. q4max CA for me i think atm

Too bad for the timing. I dont'think it'll see much testing with 1.1 beta out now.

Jepp, really bad timing. I hope they'll make a 1.1 compatible version as soon as the final patch is out.

at the moment.
I did find one bug with the enemy coller changing all the time.
when I set it's on red it will sometimes change back to blue.
and I'd don't like the texture of the map .
that's all bye.
and I don't like to use that stupid bug reporting homepage .
see you later

with projectiletrail 0 i cant see the rockets i just see a small dot ;p

Comment #46

definetly potentially highly addictive

oh god, here come the germans..

Pretty hot stuff. Lots of potential. Hopefully it gets some people off the ffa servers :>

where
is
THUNDERSTRUCK.

without the only enjoyable map that terrible mod ever had this new incarnation is going to become just another cs players introduction into rail camping.

Oh yea, cuz thunderstruck NEVER had any double rails happening.

:rolleyes:

In a mod whereby the whole game relied on railing thunderstruck at least had people using other weapons

:rolleyes:

Ah yea, it was always fun 2v2'n on TS so that my partner and I could doubleshaft someone.

I don't believe a map forces you to double team someone, I think thats caused by being a cunt.

Haha, you're one of those awesome people we always destroyed.

btw, learn to use the reply button.

It's not a matter of learning I just chose not to reply that way.

And if talking about how amazing you were in ra3 is your only means of release, seek help buddy.

I'd smoke you anyway :)

And if talking about how amazing you were in ra3 is your only means of release, seek help buddy.

I'd smoke you anyway :)

Why do people always do this?
first you say he needs help because he brags about his skill and then you brag about your skill. It's only one line further, you can't miss the contradiction man!

yer thats life ;)

ra4 isn't even in a beta stage, and we already have whine! w00t!

I'm not sure where you got ra3 = release; why would you put words into my mouth?

I wouldn't be surprised if you were better then me. But I do have a pretty big advantage over you because i'm willing to act like "a cunt" in order to win. Guess that's just the ultra-competitive person inside of me.

btw you were doing so well using the reply button, don't stop using it now :(

this is a moderate thread

I didn't exactly mean for it to come across that way I just wanted to have a dig.

this is a good thread

this is a bad thread

weaponswitch times are very very very very slow. much too slow

they should have renamed it to rail arena

ye same with ra3
didnt understand why it was called ROCKET arena back then
shaft/rg only *yawn*

Because the original rocket arena was for q1 - a game which had no rail

We've made a place for you to play.

213.208.119.120:28007 - jolt.co.uk - (v.1.05) - RA4 (0.5 beta)

HF

RA4 performance config: http://www.forsakensaints.com/download.php?view.14