Cool idea, but its probably just eye candy to mask the fact that its more of the same.

Semi automatic generated level designs, filled with the same flickey palm trees and grass alpha textures capped off with wooden huts, rocks, boxes and maybe a jetty surrounded by water!

Complete with auto generated npcs with generic faces using the same bodies generated in some other one button app that p0rt uses.

No thanks.

Right well I think they went for more of a realistic approach :p

http://www.makehuman.org/ is not 1 button, it has many to quickly shape a humanoid body to 100,000 shapes and sizes, you will have to remove polys and clean the models up before you can use them in game

The software is called make >>human<< for a reason, a 100,000 variations of a human is still a human.

What makes a character cool is things that software wont do.

100,000 for 10 mins each variations is better then 1 prefab and 2 weeks of endless work to make another human with a slightly different appearence, and then do all the specific detail thats in the concept art that you get given,

you can make aliens as well in make human, make human, its just make a humanoid, 2 arms, 2 legs, a torso and a head, make human can give the models a horse cock or decent sized titties

I am pretty sure most character artists would laugh at you if you told them the best they could do in a weeks worth of work is a slightly different appearance.

Name one famous well known game character created in that software...

i laugh at them for spending days and days pissing around moving dots

if you get given a concept charector and a modeller for a game, you can probaly make the base shape in 10 mins using make human, make human has controls for everything, eyes, forhead, muslcles, neck etc etc etc

you dont have to spend weeks doing it all manually before you even begin on the main detail of the model, like proper elf ears, veins, body armour,

you will still have the basic shape of the final model made in 10 mins using make human

"i laugh at them for spending days and days pissing around moving dots"

Its called work and I would not laugh as unlike you, they get paid for what they do , and its that level of investment that is what makes a known character.

you also totally avoided the bit where you were supposed to tell me what well known characters were developed in that software.

I can list dozens inside max, maya, zbrush.

can I just get ONE from makehuman, or has your complex limited itself to dismissing anything beyond mediocrity as it would put things into a perspective you cannot be a part of...

nvidia and amd make charectors, and all the third parties that make new ways todo skin and hair, a bit of body armor takes a few days to make once you have the base of the body,.

a normal body for farcry takes 10 mins using make human and no simple charector FPS needs to use the same generic body for 100 charectors because they take a month to make

Still waiting for that well known character....

any game charector could have been made using it...

you use all of the control in make human to shape the basic shape of your charector that will make you life easier

you export it to object

you open it in lightwave, maya or whichever program you use

you start on the main detail of the charector if you do not need to remove a few polys first

initially you were talking about Make human, now you are talking about it in conjunction with other software.

Any decent character artist will already have reliable base meshes to work from which unlike make human will not require loads of cleanup.

Most of the really nice characters these days are done in Zbrush and moving millions of "points" around in the way I think you mean, is really a thing of the past in modern 3D apps like zbrush.

The only people who use make human are really those who want genric character with little or no id like quake 4 or those without the talent or time to model anything decent.

they might use zbrush for concept art, they model game charectors from scratch, you cannot export a 4 million poly model, load it up in lightwave, maya etc and remove 3,998,000 polys and still end up with a model that is usable and recognisable

and artist could draw a new charector everyday and whole cities in a week, and no game would ever need to re=use models

Wrong in evey sense.....

http://www.rsart.co.uk/2007/08/27/yes-but-how-many-polygons/

There is a guide about the number of polys in modern day game, even quake 4 is quoted at MORE than your 2000 from over 6 years ago.

you are clearly not informed about the use of 3D graphics because you have been taking the easy way out with things like makehuman, had you been, you know about things like "retopology" and not made the comment you did about a 4 million polygon assets being no use.

And that is ignoring the fact that you think 2000 polygons is some kind of standard benchmark these days for a character.

But do carry on, this amuses me....

your a tard, you cannot export a zbrush mesh and load it up in lightwave and use the remove polygons button http://www.keyxl.com/aaaa253/163/Newtek-Light...rtcuts.htm and remove most of the polygons and end up with a mesh you can use in the game, you would need a super computer which hollywood movies are made on, not a desktop pc and a gtx card


i said you might need to remove a few polys first, if you a n00b and over do the face in makehuman, you have many polys you dont actually need..

http://s7.postimage.org/6mizuaoob/mhuman.png

id games use less polys then all other games, id games have full bumpmapping to give models the 3d look, then small detail is not actually part of the model in polys...

most other engines need to scuplt betls, bolts, buckles and all the other small model detail in polys, most engines do not have full bump mapping

"you cannot export a zbrush mesh and load it up in lightwave and use the remove polygons button"

Lightwave does have a plugin that does just that...
http://amber.rc.arizona.edu/lw/qemloss3.html

Until you understand how topology works there is little point in discussing anything more...

i know it does, i have said it 5 times, if making a usable game model was that easy, of just pressing remove polygons in lightwave a few times on a zbrush model, artists would be making whole cities in a week and could just make a new charector in a day

in 5 or 10 years, you will probaly can just press a button and use a model without any cleaning up, lightwave is good but not that good, and tends to loose the models shape on the third or forth time of pressing remove polygons

If you knew how Zbrush and topology worked, you would realise that you would not even need to remove polygons inside lightwave to begin.

You cite problems that "exist" based on your limited knowledge of the topic, not on the actual issues that exist.

Flies do the same thing when they cant figure out how to fly through a gap in the window.

and you try playing a game on your smart phone/laptop/desktop PC where 80% of the models in the map all have 3-4 million polygons each

They are only high poly when you are are editing them, they are then exported as significantly lower for the game.

retard

Yes you are...



Have fun with your one button software...

you are full of shit like everyone else says you are

make human 1.0.0 alpha 7 model view

http://s9.postimage.org/s1bsik1un/mhuman_1.png

make human 1.0.0 alpha 7 wireframe view

http://s17.postimage.org/43adkg4bj/mhuman_2.png

md5mesh exported straight out of makehuman 1 alpha 6

http://www.filehost.ws/gb61gegxd46b

you use md5mesh in idtech4 engines

Your replies have nothing to do with what is being said, secondly, that video is not mine, its just a fact about the software that shows that the high polycount in zbrush has nothing to do with the polycount of the final model, something which you were not aware of hence you saying...

"They might use zbrush for concept art, they model game charectors from scratch, you cannot export a 4 million poly model, load it up in lightwave, maya etc and remove 3,998,000 polys and still end up with a model that is usable and recognisable"

http://www.digitaltutors.com/11/training.php?pid=559

Its a fact, the next time you wonder why things are the way you are for you, you just need to look at this thread. Your beyond bizzare, you are just not well.

The "models" you posted are shite, in fact, everything you ever post is shit, from your ridiculous nullnuke that had more security holes in it than a tramps matress, and lets not forget those skyboxes you made, to your shitty mods that no one ever played because your mental health issues were laced all over the readme.

You might aswell just fulfill your destiny now and kill yourself.
It can be your christmas present to the internet and I am sure someone out there will be grateful for your housing benefit.

took 5 mins

model view

http://s14.postimage.org/vbc81g0b5/mhuman_3.png

wireframe view

http://s8.postimage.org/qv0y4lvnp/mhuman_4.png

if you could model, you would export it to obj, open in lightwave etc, select a few polys on the torso and scale it up a few pixels to add some armor

and make a model to use in game every 2 days, and bring game dev time down to a year and a half probaly

with some fixing in all the python .py, you can have custom extra libraries that auto fit clothes and so on

http://s11.postimage.org/fq94zya6b/mhuman_5.png

http://s13.postimage.org/rsp5er0ef/mhuman_6.png

so on and so on, the export the model from makehuman, import the obj into zbrush and just make the difuse

after 10 modellers have made 5000 attachments or custom libraries

thank you for proving my point, you showed the sheer power of that software, fat black women in badly clipped dresses.

You have a bright future making npc for second life.

Here is the zbrush version...

http://www.thegnomonworkshop.com/store/img/pr...ery/08.jpg

Ouch gg

http://www.esreality.com/post/2570591/re-a-ne...pid2570591


"they might use zbrush for concept art, they model game charectors from scratch, you cannot export a 4 million poly model, load it up in lightwave, maya etc and remove 3,998,000 polys and still end up with a model that is usable and recognisable"

-P0rt

I'm really looking forward to playing this game but you kinda killed some of the joy...what game DO you think looks beautiful from an art point-of-view? (jeez)

I was just being cynical, dont listen to me, its just my genreal impression of this franchise and from what I saw on TV. I dont know what every level looks like, but I find it funny the bits I have seen were what I was mocking.

:) np

FarCrySis and similar engine benchmarking games aren't really my cup of tea and while this patching up and removing glass shards is gimmicky as hell, I kinda like the idea.

I saw no mega-health.

good one. lol

You dont need to saw it, because you get one every time when you got a shot in your ass.

ka bump

attempting to make it realistic makes it so much more fun

yeah i liked that :P

"hold Q to heal"

Yeah. The next time I fall down and dislocate my arm or wrist I'm just gonna "hold q to heal." lol

lol was thinking that too sorta...those dislocation animations look gruesome. Realistic? not quite -- who can just twist his bones back into shape and be good as new? novel idea though.

I know they're just annoying to me. Serve no purpose but to make pre-adolescents feel cool - much like the excessive Aliens v Predator gore.

Complete with bone crunching sound effects!

its a good thing the game is so much fun (of course apart from some niggles)

... or eat a big mac to restore HP

More retarded than Postal 2, where you smoked crack to get mega health.

buhmp

Why?

Views on youtube :p

I need a [-] button.

It's cool, original and funny;
quakers being cocky for a game not being realistic 0.o

yeah, I wanna pick up all the pieces of mine killed keel and cook him for dinner!!!