lolol

I'm not positive, but I think Q4Max uses most distant 4 spawns from enemy and can't respawn in same spot. But I could be wrong.

Yeah I thought it'd be something similar to q3, but I was at lava in phrantic and they spawned plasma 3 times in a row.

Might just be that map then.

Still can't watch demos because the amazing engine, and actually having to play the game is out of the question.

Any other suggestions?

on phrantic the spawnsystem could easily be abused but even with this taken into account, spawning 3 times a row at HB is quite rare.
But two times is regular...

Did i mention i hate this map because of that? :P

you hate phrantic just because of spawns? the entire map is too fast + all aim + luck + spam + easy spawn rape

don't think that it is to fast, i just think that its to luck based because of the spawns.

For demos, assuming they were recorded in the same point releases as you're running, just use the q4max demos menu, and make sure you set it to "enforce all". If it tells you that you need to download some files, believe it, rather than turning off the enforce fs.

its random

you mean base or q4max?

q4max. regarding anthonyj's post i guess its not random. i was always confused because it seemed like in 1.3 (q4max) no one ever spawned near you. but in 1.4 occasionally people do appear right next to you(like when u are in red armor room and they respawn in the lower spawn literally feet away) <-- in monsoon

Afaik quake4 creates a "box" between both players and the spawn is as far as possible.

But i am not really sure, but its definately not random.

I haven't double-checked the code to confirm, and its about 2 years since I looked at this.... but IIRC the spawns are "random within the 50% of spawns furthest away from killer at the time you respawn". It will never pick a spawnpoint that telefrags unless there is no choice. Q4Max also rejects spawnpoints that are outside of maps, or slightly embedded in walls/floor

Note that it is from where the killer is, not where you died, so the killer moving around can have an impact on it (but equally, you'll never spawn next to them).

Also note that the distance is a straight linear distance in 3d space, not paying attention to whether there are walls separating you from them, or teleporters that give a shortcut between the two positions.

Thanks..
but yesterday i got a weird respawn, it was on monsoon the opponent killed me on the stairs beneath the mega health (he was standing close to me) and then i got the spawn at the 3x shards - (walking up the stairs and looking right)

But it got it just two times.

all the old demos, it is just too much hassle to get them to work.

but cheers for the reply that seems most to conform with what I've witnessed.

i have to agree its kinda messed up but its not that hard to get an old demo running.

I was just stating, in my case, it is not worth the effort.