edited for better readability, because I like doing that and I'm bored:

watching these old demos is an amusing past time, because the skill level seems so amateur in reflection; this is particularly true for games in the range of ~2004 or older, but I think this game somewhat qualifies as well, because hub3aeroq3, as a map, hadn't fully been mastered at the time.

you may disagree, under the premise of the map's existence in multiple prior forms (CPM, QuakeWorld, wherever), and the obvious rebuttal is: 'sure, but vanilla Quake 3 is a different kettle of fish.'

what I say, though, is that it isn't all that different, but, instead, that czm simply pioneered the map, much in the same fashion that fatal1ty taught us how to play q3dm6 or q3tourney2, or how ZeRo4 revealed the secrets of pro-q3tourney4.

it is interesting how it comes to be that one guy (or his team), so many times, is the source of all future knowledge in a particular skill.

the ice climbers paved the way for team deathmatch play on pro-q3dm6, and clan Kapitol illustrated what could be done on q3dm7.
is it just that these particular souls were the lucky few, happening to be in the direct path of the wand of enlightenment? for what reason, exactly, does someone, out of nowhere, achieve unprecedented ability, greater than any rival of the time, like the sudden existence of the universe.

where does this come from? is it innate to us? is it a property of genetic code?

what was so special about Bobby Fischer, and what is so different about Gary Kasparov?

I don't know.

you really should edit at least 2 of your posts ... :P

what i wanna to say - it looks to me that USA players does concentrate on small maps where is not so important to control or otherwise getting your head busy with trying to locate the enemy in the map etc or you allways know where your opponent (action style)... i meant they play better on open maps like aero or t4...

Russians are more tactics.. perfectly know a larger maps, timing all the items, planing the way to enemy etc. coollers aim is still very high, but he's not the aim specialist like many USA's are.. ... and its not so important how to shoot aim only aim... i dont meant that americans players are play good only hub and t4, (of course zero4 and czm they are were very strong on all maps but they played for many years and what about other players)...

why so - natioanal mentalites? usa players see in quake more gaming factors and in first time they are wanna enjoy and more for fun... rus looks like they see on quake more seious(that not only game)...

look on football - defensive Italy offensive german

Bleh tbh the only reason why italian football is 'defensive' is because they fall like pussies every 5 seconds so the play is always stopped

But you have a good point tho. I guess most people when they start playing games over here maybe don't think about pro-gaming at all, or at least not until they reach a very high level of play.

what? who has a nationalist mentality? are you talking about the state of the 'community' as a whole, someone in this thread, or did you just mean to say something else entirely?

I'm certainly not that, if you were referring to me. I'm just being 'random' and pretending to take myself seriously (trolling? who knows?).