Its not quit as good as cigarettes, but its ok. And, since recent study concludes its 95% less harmful than smoking, I think its the way to go for all smokers.

After using one for years I can't stand cigarettes. Also I cut my nicotine usage down to 1/16th with the lowest mg available.

I still enjoy cigars on rare occasions.

I wish i could make the switch but im weak :(

I use e-cig at home tho when in my room using pc

Its a start and that's exactly what I was doing 4 years ago. Small steps.

Have you seen people using it? You look fucking retarded

oh here comes the most retarded argument ever. People should continue smoking ciggs, when there is a lot safer way to scratch that itch, so they dont look retarded to you

That still doesnt change the fact that people smoking this look stupid and i think its too early to say that its so much better than real ciggs. I dont trust this shit.

Yeah there is metals in the element that burns the liquid. Not exactly the dream come true for people who want to quit.

Not sure how it's a fact that it looks stupid. Cigs look even more stupid since there's a better alternative. But go on, enjoy your manufactured reality where the tv and advertisements are the lore of false truths and hopes leading the moron millions off a cliff, all of them falling with a smile on their faces.

basic logic tells you its not as harmful since its not smoke but vapor and it doesnt contain most of shit ciggs do.

I dont know how they calculate how much safer soemthing is in percentages, but Public Health England seems like a reputable surce
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/1...an-smoking

still doesn't mean much

a few years ago everyone was praising diesel cars now apparently they're the new adolf

Hit a nerve?

i think so

Boom.

Have you seen idiots spouting out stupid shit? You look fucking retarded.

Normally I admire people who don't care but for your case, it's simply no good.

to be fair, smoking looks pretty retarded without the context of decades of socioperceptual conditioning.

Many said the same about people using cell phones on the street and they ended up doing it themselves. Who's retarded now?

i guess that's a bit generalizing.

if you have the e-cigs in mind which imitate a real cig, with a LED "smouldering" at the front piece then i might agree.
if you have the long big dongs in mind, then i might agree aswell. :D
if you have the more compact box mods, and more compact models in general in mind, then i disagree.

Im not really an expert on the market all i see is people walking around sucking on a dildo like device deluding thereselves they have accomplished something with it

Kinda like cynics on esr.

why bother if you've never smoked cigs?

nicotine addiction is worthlesss.

he can and probably is using a nicotine free liquid. But its weird to start smoking with e-cig, thats true

Even more pointless.

i like the nicotine too, and without the MAO-inhibitors included in cigarettes, it's not supposed to be that much addictive.

of course a big part is also the geek stuff you can have, with tweaking, tuning, modding, building. :D

then you can mix you own liquids...

Says the man who does psychedelic drugs

burn!

<3 ;D

how are those worthless though?

vape! <3

Psychedelic drugs are not addictive.

That's what they said about cigs

who says that?

(accidental plus)

or just don't smoke

dumb

why dumb?
It's fun and "at least 95% less harmful" than cigarettes.
is fun dumb?

Is dumb fun?

because you said you weren't even a smoker. so I'm not sure how it even came to your mind to decide to start this. btw I did smoke cigarettes for 5 years(long-ass time ago) but I quit, it wasn't that hard honestly and best decision ever made. also my grandma died to cancer due to smoking so I have some perspective on a person going thru that before inevitably succumbing to it, and it is not something you'd wanna witness I can tell you that much.

"at least 95% less harmful"
yea I don't buy that shit, unless someone links strong evidence like controlled scientific studies done on a large enough group. random blogs/articles on the internet = don't care. people like to hear good things about their bad habits.

just run/cycle/gym, won't feel the need to smoke ever.

TLDR: you do whatever but it's just stupid, especially for non-smoker.

i was no smoker and now i'm still not a smoker
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-27187172

FYI, you might want to listen to the BBC's "More Or Less (behind the stats)" show - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qshd - a very recent episode (the one titled about diabetes I think) examined how someone had come up with the 95% number.

It's certainly not a hard number, it is just a number that has been arbitrarily assigned by a panel of people after looking at all of the different risk factors (eg risk of burning down the house etc). There seems to be some scientific rigor to how they came up with it, but it's not a "trustworthy" probability.

i understand the "at least 95%", that his personal opinion is actually 100% anyway, and just wanted to make it look more serious.

Not what you are asking for, but still interesting read. (08/2015)

http://vapeaboutit.com/official-study-proves-...igarettes/

A friend of mine got the exactly same e-cig and it's quite nice with adjustable voltage and all the different tastes you could only think of. But it's kinda silly to start smoking with the e-cig, I don't trust at all the sources state they're harm free, I've watched some documentary on TV and it was said e-cigarettes are far from being harm free as a matter of fact there's still a lot of side-effects we're yet to see just give it some time.

i smoke rolling tobacco without a filter, i prefer a hand rolled cardboard roach card, ya know, like you use to make a joint... I am stupid enough to smoke so I might as well get the full 'back of the throat hit'

give me three scores years and ten... no more thanks

(my idea of hell it being able to live forever)

p.s. yes yes i have bronchitis too but its mine and its my choice

"
p.s. yes yes i have bronchitis too but its mine and its my choice"

At least you own it, so many people refuse to accept that their negative choices impact their reality.

huge plus intended

If you replace cigs with vaping, my personal tip is to never touch a cig again.

Friends of mine were the ultimate vapemasters for a couple of weeks until they kinda dropped vaping, since "cigs just taste more intense". Good luck.

LOL, just read about it on the english wiki, and it's frightening that conspiricy seems to be real. :S

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette#Addiction

it's absolutly contrary to the german version

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elektrische_Zigarette

Awful word abuse. The same site says "It is thought that a powerful interaction between the MAOIs and nicotine is responsible for most of the addictive properties of tobacco smoking.[65]"

So it's not like nicotine from a vaporizer will be as addictive as cigarettes, which are nowhere as addictive as heroine.

(I'm not a smoker, never was and I hate every single one of you stinkers, but really, putting equality sign between nicotine and heroine is such a huge lie I just can't not react.)

the english version is really written by the devil himself (tobacco industry? pharma industry?).

People still smoke? I pity such stupid people.

same here.

yep, 39 years old and still smoking here

I'm a bit of a short ass though so when i quit for 7 months in 2011 i gained over 6 kg in weight i had nowhere to hide it apart from belly.... zoto woulnd't have this problem...

...my doctor told me that i better start smoking again else i'll get diabetes for sure

also yes, i am intelligent but stupid

that really is stupid

gif or it didn't happen

People still play quake too, takes all kinds.

More garbage in garbage out. Seems being trash is an ancient Chinese secret.

so cool

are you being serious or sarcastic? Being honest I think it looks so dumb

I didn't realize I was being so subtle.

phew, we can be friends now

cigars & cigarettes = QW / Q3 / Q4 / Q3 CPM

e-cigarettes = warsow/nexuiz

I'm also using the i'stick 40. Together with two Nautilus mini's and two kangertech subtanks. I tried many e-cigs and i thing the nautilus is perfect for a cigarette replacement. (with BVC coils) With temperture control you'll inhale even less doubtful stuffs. But yea we don't know for sure how it's gona be on the long run.

i use the kanger aerotank 2, for now with evod/protank single coils which i will rebuild once my japanese cotton arrives. :)
http://www.besser-labern-ohne-grund.de/kanger...inleitung/

(don't feel the need for a real rba vaporizer yet, it's more to safe money by never having to buy replacement coils)

Kangertech evod coils have serious quality issues. Every unit vapes different. People on amazon say there are usually 2 out of 5 which do ok. Some work for 2 days, or are broken out of the box. Doesnt matter which version. I tried the newer ones v2 or v3 and they just don't produce as many vape (the ones that look like this)
wheres kangertech subtank coils and nautilus BVC all perform exactly the same. No dry hits etc. (esspacially not with the ni200 coils in therory, but i always have the same taste and airflow with the usual ones too.They differ from the ohm of the coils of course) Those clearomizers are very expensive. Esspecially since you have to buy more than one unit, if you don't want to vape the same liquid all the time, but they are so much worth it. Can't recommend them enough.
That beeing said, i usually don't recommend the subtank for everyone, since it really takes some getting used to, and you have to halve the nicotine of your liquids for sure. The most people vape them at 3 or 6 mg at best.

If you want to try building your own coils, the subtank comes with a RBA unit. (and a 0,5 and 1,6 ohm coil) Cotton and tools are included as well. And the subtank mini fits beautiful to the i'stick 40w TC.


edit:
http://imgur.com/gvdZZOB,R0J8Bs8

ye, i was close to order the subtank with RBA unit, but then i read that it would have a too high liquid consumption for my taste.
I'm already happy with a (working)evod coil @ 2ohm @ 7.5w, and got the istick 40 more because of the dimensions/look and otherwise solid functionality.
i measured the resistance of all 5 evod coil units(stated at 1.8ohm) in one pack, and all but one were at ~2 ohm.
the other was at ~3 ohm, but whatever i will rebuild them anyways with own coil and cotton wool(instead ofthe usual silica wick).

btw: is that gold thing yours? :D

a too high liquid consumption for my taste.

Yes it's much higher, but didn't say your are mixing yourself? When mixing myself i'm at ~ 0,70 cent / 10ml. That's far from beeing to expensive even if i would vape 2 of those a day. If i'd try hard i wouldn't even vape 10ml. But that's just me. I don't know how much you need. Guess it's not that much as you didn't smoke before ;P (i quit smoking 4 years ago and started vaping mid last year)


gold thing? It's my picture yes. But its actually silver. Well my living room is very orange'ish. That must be it xd

lol at gold then. :P

ye, i don't "need"(lol) that much, but i also like to have the airflow control at minimum, which should also suggest that i don't need a RBA vaporizer.

Then the nautilus mini is for you ;P It's a huge upgrade from evod style clearomizers. If you consider the standard nautilus, be aware they just ship with the standard coils. The nautilus is slightly underrated in general, as the reviews are done without the BVC's in mind,. The ones they review only vape ok for a couble of days, while the BVC coils can be used for 1 or 2 months without much change in taste. They also can be vaped up to 18 watts without problems.


https://youtu.be/XUzNF9WeoX8

considered the nautilus too, where i like the look of it actually more(with the hollowing steel tank :D ), but read that the aerotank should be a bit better to prevent leaking.
i got the japanese cotton wool today, and should be able to get alot more out of kanger coil units.

I decided on the hallowed tank because the other special tanks symbol looks like a penis xD But yea i also thought its leaking but the problem was that after refilling, the Liquid was between the metal and the glass. After cleaning it with toilet paper or alike it stopped leaking. So after all you just have to refill the tank very carefully. Btw, a friend of mine got the grey istick as well and i have to admit it looks really awesome combined with the hallowed tank. Still doesn't beat the silver istick with the subtank @ cyan or black o-rings ;P

:D

yea, i guess some day i will get the nautilus aswell.
i actually use a silicone case now with the istick, so that i can lay it down everywhere without much thought.

Nice. where did you buy them? btw i just tested the TC heads for the nautilus by vapeonly. I can't recomment them for the istick 40 TC. 40 watts just is way to much. Drip tip starts getting really hot after 4-5 hits. With other TC mods its possible to cut the watts. i stick 40 only let's you cut the temp. Always fires with 40 watts at button press. No problem with the ni200 coils for the subtank though. Those work like a charm. 255-285° is the sweet spot for me.

http://www.riccardo-zigarette.de/Riccardo-iSt...amp;ci=269

lol, i use it not even at 15W, don't even have to think about TC yet.

:D

shiden white?

yea, and i'm quite happy that the 50+€ weren't spend for nothing, after it lay around for a year or so. :)

Exactly like mine.

My second subtank wears the blue o rings ;))


btw, the istick TC 60W is released. But i guess i'm getting the evic VTC mini instead.

ye i know i know, but i have to keep myself together, or it could get out of control pretty bad with all the neat stuff you could buy. :D

(i would get the VTC mini too, because there is nothing the istick 60 could do better, but maybe it's cheaper)

my subtank had already black o-rings for replacement in the box, but they were pretty bad quality. :S
Luckily, i thought they would only come with red rings, so i ordered replacement rings anyways too, which have the proper quality. :)

btw., open draw is awesome with this tank. :)
No comparison to the aerotank air flow.

I read they changed the spare rings from red to black with the mini edition of the subtank. White orings are nice in combo with the white silicon case of the i stick.

I was unlucky with one of the glass tanks.It wasn't grinded perefectly, so it kept losing liquid.

Apart from that no complains. Did you try the ni200 coils already?

nope, no ni200 coils yet.
i will get titan for the RBA, and... oh god, i ordered a vtc mini aswell. :/

don't wanna charge the istick every day, so better to have two rechargeables and a seperate charger.

Wanted to say they're maybe not worth it for the subtank (although i have 7 or 8 flying around- testing flavours etc) as the isticks can't change starting watts in TC. The reason i even think about buying an other mod, is to be able to use lower watts in TC. And damn. you change your mind quick ;P

edit:
talking about the istick TC40w. The TC60w can to that of course.

:O




had already another one here since some days, but had to send it back due to loose/rattling button.
This one is good tho.

Sweet. I'm getting the white one i think. Would go nice with the white subtank. Not that i have a white one yet :d

today my titan wire came(AWG28, grade1), so i could try TC for the first time, and oh my god - it works so well.
Until now i used the RBA with the preinstalled coil, and the 0.5 / 1.2 OCC coils.
The RBA setting delivered alot of vape, and good taste, BUT it was also cracking loudly at the first puff, after that it got pretty hot at the following puffs.
The OCC coils are calm, but does not taste as intensive, and the vape is pretty thin aswell.

now with titan and TC (0.48Ohm, 7 wraps around 3mm, 220°, 20W http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp?mat=ti1&...3&ll=2) it's as silent as the OCC coils, but the vape is so dense, and the taste is more intensive but at the same time milder, as if you would drink milk with your lungs. :D

Didn't you try the RBA of the subtank?

Yes i did. But my subtanks came with the first gen RBA coils. Without the additional liquid holes. Wouldn't it make more sense to rebuild the OCC heads with titan?
More place for the liquid as those are smaller. I'll give the RBA coil another shot some time. Its nice for testing purposes. Never tried titan wire.

They say TC mode has very little tolerance when it comes to resistance differences.
And with the OCC-coils, the wire is only pressed against the poles, which makes them more prone for resistance change(could be quite annoying to rebuild them anyway).
About more place for liquid, the tank itself limits it when you refill. :P

BTW, tested the TC of the istick 40 a bit, with adjusted temperature for titan, and it seemed to work good aswell.

My ni200 coils make a very annoying pop sound when they're cold on the first hit. I thought that's because of the 40 watts. Do you have the same issue with the titan wire? (@ istrick 40wTC)

i guess, you can't eliminate the pop sound completly at the first hit, but it works much better here with titan and TC on the RBA, than it was before(because that was quite anoying, and i tried to fix it with different amounts of cotton - but couldn't get it satisfying)

But anyway, the TC works well and silent on the istick40 too with my RBA build, and it seems, that it doesn't shoot so high with temperature.
The VTC mini seems to shoot higher temperature with only 25w, than the istick with 40w, at about the same max temperature setting (130°-150° for titan on the istick, which is about 220°-240° in reality).

The annoying and loud popping at the first hit, i'm only getting in TC mode with the blue OCC coils. With the 0,5 and 1,2 ohm coils it's fine. Guess i'll order the new RBA v2. /or just order another complete set of subtank mini white :d Problem is i don't really need a third one. But i want this white sub tank so badly.


edit:
btw, where did you order the titan wire?

After i build another coil with only 2.5mm diameter, it was popping again lol(maybe too little cotton between the coils).
Now back at 3mm diameter, and lots of cotton, it's silent again(after i spilled the STM completly by forgetting to apply the top again of the RBA v2 :D).
But if you take titan wire, you first have to clean it(wet microfibre seems to do) then fix it into the RBA before doing the coils, and heat it up with lower watt, to make it easier to wrap afterwards, or it will be very springy and the coils doesn't stay in place and get too big.
To get more even coils, i ordered this: https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10012175/...ex-key-kit

ordered here: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00OZXDBUE?ps...ge_o00_s00

if you don't already have good cotton: http://www.amazon.de/Cotton-Labo-ORGANIC-200p...puff+watte
(ordered for higher price there, out of germany, didn't want to wait 2 weeks)

PS: the battery holds way longer with TC on the vtc mini, than it does in VW mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL3AuyOfBtI#t=28

"suck a robots dick" n1

All you need is the Arizer Solo and some good sativa

Inhale air only, because that's already harmful enough unless you live in the woods or in the countryside. Inhaling smoke or e-cig vapors only makes it worse, and you gonna die sooner.

Be honest, how often have you accidentally tried to unlock your car with this while having the car key in your mouth?

12 days clean of any smoking, and here is someone proud of vaping some synthetic shit in his lungs by deeming it's 95% healthier than smoking normal cigarettes, but the truth is, not smoking is 100% more healthier than any of this shit.

but where is the fun? :(

If you can't think of fun that doesn't make you die faster, it's just natural selection. I ain't even mad.

ok, make me die faster, as harmful as coffee stuff.

PQL CTF
CS:GO
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/2015-Fa...73145.html

Why aren't you vaping wax?

Nice one for this thread.
I was thinking about posting a thread on vaping but as usual I didn't want to deal with the cross eyed crew.
I stopped smoking tobacco using an e cig about a month ago.
I got into torch/flashlight modding a while back and started to notice a lot of battery box mods and info on electronics was on vapist forums.
Anyway long story short, I've learned loads on this nerdy journey.
There are so many people using vape where I'm @
that tobacco smokers are starting to be the odd ones out.
My doctor said vape is not carcinogenic but nicotine can still cause heart disease.

edit : what mouse is that thunda ?

a white steelseries rival(modded with paracord cable). ;)

I love vaporizing cannabis

been vaping for 2 years, 100% analog free. its really nice to not smell, plus i can vape in the office :)

anyone who starts smoking with an e-cig is a fucking retard.
I mean yes, anyone who ever starts smoking normal cigarettes is retarded too, but e-cigs are for smokers who want a "healhier" alternative, arent they?

You most likely started smoking e-cigs cause you think it looks cool and your friends do it, so i have to ask: are you perhaps 12 yo?

why is it retarded to start something fun, which is very unlikely to be harmful?
i can agree that starting to smoke is retarded(but that usually happens in an age of retardeness anyways) with the plenty of bad effects, but all those don't apply to vaping.

in my opinion: anyone who DON'T starts VAPING with an e-cig is a fucking retard. :D

You most likely read some propaganda article against it, sponsored by the tobacco industry, and now have made up your opinion, so i have to ask you: are you perhaps 60 yo?

wtf

leave me alone mr. tobacco industry lobbyist. :D

huh. I made it clear I'm against both e-cig and regular tobacco.

in my opinion: anyone who DON'T starts VAPING with an e-cig is a fucking retard. :D

going off of this line, I could say that you're paid to advertise EC, but I wouldn't do that, because it'd still be a baseless, stupid statement to say.

btw I did check one study done comparing EC vs regular(thx acid_reptile for the link), only briefly skimmed thru due to lack of time - it's a massive document. and I do believe in that it's less unhealthy, but I also believe 95% is an arbitrary and exaggerated number. EVEN IF it were 100%, nicotine in itself is harmful and a stimulant. so is caffeine(inb4 angry coffee-drinkers :) which is basically every other person, according to 2015 stats).

also found this study done on EC and lung health:
http://ajplung.physiology.org/content/ajplung...4.full.pdf
excerpt:

i was not all that serious about this. :]

neither here:

in my opinion: anyone who DON'T starts VAPING with an e-cig is a fucking retard. :D

i don't think that the "95%" is arbitrary, but that it's an even modest estimation by adding results of studies, and experiences with the actual ingredients(propylenglycol, glycerine, nicotine, flavour).

nicotine is nice tho, relaxing, unlike coffee(which i actually reduced to a minimum longer ago). :)

wtf

i've tried e-cigs, what is it exactly that u find fun about it ? are you somehow amazed by the amount of smoke you can blow ? sounds like a 12 yo to me, it wouldn't surprise me if you also upload videos on youtube of you doing smoke rings n shit :D

i haven't read anything other than that it is a great way for smokers to smoke something a bit healthier whilst trying to quit, i still see no fucking point for someone that isn't a cigarette smoker to start using this shit cause "it's fun". i mean wtf

I find they are an enrichment, comparable with having a can pot of coffee or tea around you.

You have the taste, the nicotine kicking right in with every inhale... :]
it feels comfy and supports a calm state of mind.

On another level there is the geek stuff, and enjoying buildquality, look and functionality of the devices.

Enrichment.

It might be just your opinion Thunda, but your opinion is fucking RETARDED.

It might be just your opinion NicholAs , but your opinion is fucking RETARDED.

It's not my problem you have the intelligence of a grape.

http://www.esreality.com/post/2773554/#pid2766005

why so many germans

I'm counting 3

maybe that's normal where you come from, but not here

also, the 3 account for like 60% of muh thread

I started vaping around a year ago and it helped me to stop smoking from one moment to the next, after having smoked for almost 20 years :o

It's a fun little hobby as well and if you mix your liquid yourself, it's even cheaper than smoking. A lot cheaper if you bought a normal package of cigarettes per day and a little cheaper if you rolled yourself. However, if you buy shit from a shop, depending on how much you vape, it can be more expensive than smoking even.

I started with mech mods and rdas right from the beginning btw and I totally dislike tanks. I'd like to try out a regulated device sometime though. Mainly because constant power output until the battery is empty and also temperature control. Otherwise I still prefer nimble mech mods for their size and simplicity.

Here's the gear I've accumulated over 1 year :S

[+] for iiyama 454.

Thanks, but it's a 514 :)

LOL hipsters. Just a few years ago hookah/shisha was all the rage. Now they've gone digital.

Wtf are you talking about, fakkit?
Hookas been around for so long it ain't suddenly popular a few years ago.

Everything, and I mean everything is regurgitated in pop culture. Peace, homosexuality, race, drugs, tyranny, democracy, lying authorities, casualties of war, rape, you name it. All the same old human activity. Don't be naive enough to believe anything is ever new under the sun, slave.

Good day.

Sounds like someone's got their skinny jeans in a knot.

Hookah wasn't in the back of every community college car in the parking lot like it was 5-6 years ago...

ggs i closed the cap of my clearomizer too tightly and i can't change liquid the second day now lul

:(
wrap a towel around it, and then use pliers to open it up: https://www.google.de/search?q=kombizange&...swGCsIK4BA

Yep, that's exactly what I did. And it worked :D

I've had a connection problem, the cap of my mod was not closed tightly enough and I assumed that the stronger I will screw clearomizer the more tight it will sit haha

Suck on that penis.

I was smoking since 20 years, tried some cheapo e-cigs a year ago didn't do shit for me, because the vapor production was sub optimal, I had to suck on that thing so much that I turned blue, still smoked cigarettes after that.

2 weeks ago I bought a mechanical mod, with a Kanger subtank, just for the shits and giggles, with some 18mg fluid, haven't smoked a cigarette since those two weeks.

It's kind of perfect, now, I do think I was pushing it with 18mg, since I was smoking lights at the end, so next batch of liquid will be 12mg.

The only problem I'm facing now is getting to find the best e-liquid for me, especially since the supposedly "better" stuff is hardly available in Europe. Frankly, 2 weeks now I spend 10 EUR for e-liquid and that is my whole expense, I'd be looking at 50EUR if I'd still be smoking cigarettes - pretty nice.

For 25€, you already get 1L of nicotine-base here (10mg, which would kill me in the subtank tho :P).
Then you can get flavours for 1€@1ml, where the required dosage is only about 1-1.5%, so it could be enough for 100ml liquid, which would cost you 3,50€ in the end.
For that price you couldn't even get 10ml of retail liquid.
With only 1€ for the flavours, you can also try many different without much loss if you don't like some of them. (my favourites until now are lemon and apple cox orange from herrlan flavours)

not really confident enough yet to mix my own liquids, and since I just started I have find a nice flavor first, just testing now, ordering 5ml samplers.

So far I like quite a few from Mount Baker Vapor, ordering 5x 5ml samplers from CloudHouse Vapor.

What is the best and cheapest price/performance ones?

Is this one ok? http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Vaporizador-FUZION-350...1550225612

:]

=]

Small update i tested this model tonight : its just a scam, the heat is more like 100 degrees Celsius and not 180-220 so its just a useless crap, i asked for refund...

What a German retard

What exactly is "fun" about sucking on a bit of plastic alone & then exhaling?

Luckily the fad died really quickly here & I've not seen one in maybe 1 year. My sis had 1 then went back to fags before quitting completely

People don't use it as a healthier replacement for fags as a stepping stone to quitting...partly because it's less addictive, partly because they look so stupid using it...and there's you volunteering to look stupid, gg

Lollipop > e-cig

don't h8 m8.

He loves fags.

I really don't think direct-inhale with a sub-ohm clearomizer looks gay at all. It's actually the opposite ;P I made quite a few people change their mind about e-cigs (at work etc.) People keep beeing interested, until they can't resist buying the same equipment.

Bought one today so I can stop smoking cigs.

You're a retard for doing it because you think it's cool.

oh fuck off..:http://www.esreality.com/post/2773733/re-e-ci...pid2766299

With temperature control you feel even cooler.

Quit smoking 3 month ago, much better now..