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QL TDM Map Limbus - Update/Final Version (158 comments)

( Major News: QL)

Posted by Yellack @ 20:19 UTC, 25 February 2012 - iMsg

Following Purgatory

akm and I,

Yellack, present our new Quake Live TDM Map: Limbus

Put 3 more weeks of work into it, changed some visual things and YA/MH, check out the vid:
(my voice is a little behind the moves, sorry for that)

Update - Final Version

Video Presentation

Level Overview

Items

Edited by Yellack at 20:53 UTC, 25 February 2012 - 53821 Hits

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<< Comment #1 @ 13:12 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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twister

Looks like a nice map, nice colors, good amount of items. It's hard to give feedback just from the video though, is the map available for download? (that is if you are looking for feedback and the map isnt already 'done')

<< Comment #12 @ 15:42 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #1

We aint sure yet if we'll give it out. Its considered done tho, if there aint any major issues.

<< Comment #2 @ 13:19 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Gladius

Looks great!! I like the mix between narrow hallways & open areas.
Hopefully it gets played!

<< Comment #3 @ 13:21 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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ax!on

Awesome map! Can't wait for id to release it. Will there be an introduction on sinister aswell? I already had the pleasure to test it and I liked it a lot. Akm and you should really get more credit for making such nice maps... keep it up!

<< Comment #13 @ 15:43 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #3

<3
Yes, will do a Sinister (Duel) Vid soonish as well.

<< Comment #4 @ 13:23 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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megaman3

is this a brand new map or the one that's on id's hands for months (maybe years) and is still unreleased?

<< Comment #5 @ 13:26 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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scowl - Reply to #4

If it's new: How about sending it to id with statements by lots of active tdm players / league admins / etc that they like it and want it to be released?

This might speed things up a bit. :|

<< Comment #15 @ 15:46 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #5

Wont help, I'm sure that id wants to release it, but there seem to be some 'issues' atm.

<< Comment #22 @ 17:56 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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gooda - Reply to #15

ischju is mostly at the gym so he wont be any problem

<< Comment #24 @ 18:17 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Lave - Reply to #22

Edited by Lave at 18:17 UTC, 6 February 2012

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<< Comment #7 @ 13:27 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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ax!on - Reply to #4

over one year now, and still unreleased...

<< Comment #14 @ 15:44 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #4

Its both, new and in id's hands :>

<< Comment #6 @ 13:26 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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xou

Why are you harassing my BNC on qnet?

<< Comment #8 @ 13:29 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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ax!on - Reply to #6

isn't that what a bnc is for? aaaah I forgot some ppl are using it for keeping their nicknames, what a useful task...

<< Comment #9 @ 13:47 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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xou - Reply to #8

I love messages like "hello", "are you here?", "xou?"

So useful !

<< Comment #17 @ 16:38 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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palatka - Reply to #9

hello, are u there? xou?

:baited:

<< Comment #90 @ 13:51 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #9

yes why cant people just state their business, so we can answer when we are back >:(

<< Comment #10 @ 14:27 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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ins

looks very vertical, not sure if that's good or bad \:D/
gj

<< Comment #97 @ 15:32 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Smofo - Reply to #10

Intervention is also quite vertical and you can see how much people liked that map in QL.

Edited by Smofo at 15:34 UTC, 7 February 2012

<< Comment #104 @ 16:49 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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ins - Reply to #97

doesn't seem as vertical as this

<< Comment #11 @ 14:41 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Disrepute

I don't think it is a style of map to replace Hidden Fortress but it looks closer to Deep Inside.

<< Comment #16 @ 15:48 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #11

Yer, thats why I said Deep Inside, only mentioned HF cause its the most debatable map in the current pools imo :>

<< Comment #23 @ 17:57 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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gooda - Reply to #16

well deep inside isnt in the nationscup, so this should replace tornado.. or HF still

<< Comment #32 @ 19:33 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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limity - Reply to #23

^this

<< Comment #36 @ 20:42 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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T1E - Reply to #32

but noctis likes tornado, what's your opinion now?

<< Comment #37 @ 20:53 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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limity - Reply to #36

when noctis in tournament tornado can be played, when hes not in it can be switched.

Edited by limity at 20:53 UTC, 6 February 2012

<< Comment #46 @ 21:48 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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gooda - Reply to #36

who is noctis

<< Comment #83 @ 10:33 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Smofo - Reply to #46

That australian you know?

<< Comment #18 @ 16:43 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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cityy

I commented on youtube. Good work, I wanna try it!

<< Comment #19 @ 16:53 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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kK_Storm

Liked it. It doesn't look like any of the current TDM maps, has some originality in it. Hope it gets played.

<< Comment #20 @ 17:04 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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frs - Reply to #19

yep, watched the video several times and liked it aswell. got a feeling its going to have some balance issues at start though, northern (wups said southern before :D) side of the map has such good items/positioning on items. hope we get it soon though ;[

easily much more interesting than tornado or dm20.

Edited by frs at 17:13 UTC, 6 February 2012

<< Comment #21 @ 17:16 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #20

if the lg turns out to be a problem (or in RA favour), it can easily be switched with sg or pg btw

<< Comment #26 @ 18:37 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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_flx - Reply to #20

btw, what happened to your map? didn't it get "presented" by lvl^ & send to id like a year ago? feels like it thou..

@yellack looks cool!

<< Comment #51 @ 21:55 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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frs - Reply to #26

its done, id is informed, sync wants to add it. now we're just waiting

i could maybe do a similar presentation video of the final version with my rally finglish :D

Edited by frs at 22:23 UTC, 6 February 2012

<< Comment #67 @ 22:52 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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deotrip - Reply to #51

do it would love to see it

<< Comment #142 @ 01:35 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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pecka_ - Reply to #51

"sync wants to add it" !

<< Comment #25 @ 18:23 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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wrong person

freakishly huge, but i like it :) need to be tested...

<< Comment #82 @ 10:12 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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aeoL - Reply to #25

it looks small to me. Like big rooms but small map. You can have an encounter so easily in other words.

<< Comment #123 @ 23:08 UTC, 9 February 2012 >>

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w0nk0 - Reply to #82

this would be bad because?
a) you are a pussy +backer who likes to hide with rail all day long
b) you are an idiot
c) all of the above

<< Comment #124 @ 02:30 UTC, 10 February 2012 >>

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aeoL - Reply to #123

How did you know? :O?

Na I'm all +forward with rockets these days.

<< Comment #27 @ 18:46 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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SyncError

Looks good, thanks for taking the time to make the video presentation. I can't wait to see how it plays.

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<< Comment #40 @ 21:09 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #27

cant wait to finally see it released -.-

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<< Comment #55 @ 22:20 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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cityy - Reply to #40

mmm... ;/

<< Comment #65 @ 22:45 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #40

thx for the edit btw :*

<< Comment #28 @ 18:55 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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looks like a fun map to play, gj.

<< Comment #29 @ 19:06 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Memento_Mori

Looks very nice. It's hard to have a feeling about the size (looks wide open from the vid?) without playing it, but it's clear you put some thinking into it. I like the overall connectivity, item placement etc.

The video presentation is a nice move! Looking forward to play it.

<< Comment #35 @ 20:26 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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cerb0z - Reply to #29

No it isn't huge, first thing i've realised about this map is how great it scaled, nicely balanced proportions. But i hope lg won't be a such problem because atm it looks like it'll be totally dominate red area.

<< Comment #47 @ 21:49 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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gooda - Reply to #35

u can rail to red, frmo rail

<< Comment #57 @ 22:24 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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cityy - Reply to #47

I doubt you will really get the opportunity to stand there for ages and rail to the red.

<< Comment #66 @ 22:46 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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gooda - Reply to #57

not ages, only 2 sec if u know timing

<< Comment #30 @ 19:12 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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d0ku

looks like a really nice map, good job on this

<< Comment #31 @ 19:15 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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cRee_

Another good looking map that sould be implemented into the game, a simple no brainer.

<< Comment #33 @ 19:44 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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gooda

AND ALL THAT ON A TINY MOUSEPAD

<< Comment #52 @ 22:09 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #33

movement failed tho :D

<< Comment #34 @ 20:25 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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sharpe

looks awesome. I like the open areas similar to dreadful with some narrow spaces with items and the open quad.

<< Comment #38 @ 20:58 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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donka

I don't know about the theme. It needs to be it little more browner... and a little more darker. Because it's not dark and brown enough. I play a lot of quake, and I don't have enough of dark and brown maps.I like dark and i like brown.

<< Comment #39 @ 20:58 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Leth4L

Wow, this is so exciting to see :D Very nice to look at this map :)

<< Comment #41 @ 21:13 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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w0nk0

map looks really really nice. love the layout. atleast from the looks of it has the right tightness to the areas. not usually a big fan of pillars + tele from low to high but seems like it might work in this case.

whyd u decide to put the rail where it is tho? having a direct angle from rail to ra seems a bit meh.

anyways looking forward to playing it. on a final note can we please please not use that texture set? horrible grey textures...........

<< Comment #43 @ 21:32 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #41

Textures are cool, grey is bestest.

<< Comment #53 @ 22:17 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #41

you dont like t7 textures? o.0

<< Comment #54 @ 22:20 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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w0nk0 - Reply to #53

god no. fucking ugly. hate grey. i prefer the brown from purgatory/ztn. anything but grey really. well almost.

Edited by w0nk0 at 22:20 UTC, 6 February 2012

<< Comment #58 @ 22:24 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #54

for me its more brownish/greenish, I love em :s

<< Comment #73 @ 04:38 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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w0nk0 - Reply to #58

i just overall dont like that texture set from t7 and t9. out of the new maps the ones i like the most are from swelts maps (hektik and tornado).

<< Comment #76 @ 08:58 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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yuri_akira - Reply to #58

do it pink

<< Comment #91 @ 13:54 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #58

I like T4 and T2 textures, your next project.

<< Comment #42 @ 21:30 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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melechesh '

Looks and feels excellent, and the pillars and other layout details make it supreme.

<< Comment #44 @ 21:38 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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ischju

new maaaaaaaap, yes! I wanna test it now - 4v4 goooo!

Edited by ischju at 21:41 UTC, 6 February 2012

<< Comment #48 @ 21:49 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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gooda - Reply to #44

with what team

<< Comment #49 @ 21:52 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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ischju - Reply to #48

do I need a team to play 4v4? :D

<< Comment #64 @ 22:40 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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wrong person - Reply to #49

well yeah. unless /addbot and forever alone mode.

<< Comment #45 @ 21:47 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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»bst

Looks cool :D nice work

<< Comment #50 @ 21:53 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Izi

no void or lava ? :(

<< Comment #56 @ 22:22 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #50

no bs, raw quad powaaaaaah

<< Comment #59 @ 22:25 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Kaide

looks like awesome map, i hope it replace deep inside =)

<< Comment #60 @ 22:27 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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sofiene

looking good,make a vid with a 4v4 match to see if it is balanced and not a one sided map ;)

<< Comment #62 @ 22:35 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #60

Can only play stupid bots :>
The map structure is fine, if its not balanced you only need to swap 1 or 2 guns, while I actually want a strong RA, you should benefit from having RA :)

<< Comment #87 @ 12:11 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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kg - Reply to #62

Is it hard to make it into a q3 map?

<< Comment #61 @ 22:35 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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cityy

Watching this again I'm not sure about the item placement. If you control the red you control the RG. Say you put 2 people on rail and 2 on LG or something like that, then you pretty much "enclose" the strong side of the map with your team. You got RG, LG, Red and a RL. Besides that you also have the vertical advantage to attack the quad. Taking all that into consideration the strong side feels a bit overpowered to me.
Really curious to see how it will play in a real match. For now I wouldnt change it.

<< Comment #63 @ 22:37 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #61

I dont think you can control RG/RA & LG (+take mh), if thats the case, we move LG mostlikely

<< Comment #75 @ 07:50 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Splashhh - Reply to #63

imho
team1 control ra and rail, and railing lg & yal & yau
team2 control ya & rl, mh, sometimes lg
when the teams met on quad, quad is dead or taken by team1!!!

Can you upload the map? Its wery hard to uderstand the map by video.

<< Comment #96 @ 15:31 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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gooda - Reply to #75

you are russian so u must be right

<< Comment #68 @ 22:53 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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Swelt

Looks like a very nicely designed map. Good job.

<< Comment #69 @ 23:36 UTC, 6 February 2012 >>

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raw

I think the map looks really good at least from the youtube video, i just hope id can pull their fingers out and get some new maps involved sooner rather than later.

<< Comment #70 @ 01:10 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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focuz

whats wrong with dm6? ;>

<< Comment #71 @ 01:30 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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occultum

damn from how many angles can you shoot to quad area with rail? :<
and lg right next to the teleport the team who has ra can just drop down on time and steal it go teleport and safe lg go home.

=((((

<< Comment #72 @ 02:13 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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EmeraldTiger

Seems pretty damn nice. The Furious Heights / House of Decay theme is replicated nicely, probably better than either of the aforementioned maps actually with the nice yellow+blue contrast, giving it a very atmospheric touch.

I also like the vertical aspect of it, which is sorely missing from other TDM maps which tend to have a flat feeling. (Flat = usually not fun) Seems kind of small / tight though for a 4v4 TDM map though, (if that is what you were aiming for) dunno why. But then again, so is Tornado. You even have a nice jump pad trap door gimmick like in Reflux. Gimmicks = good thing. (In moderation) Connectivity is spot-on.

Great job!

Edited by EmeraldTiger at 02:13 UTC, 7 February 2012

<< Comment #74 @ 07:24 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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wision

The map indeed looks nice, but from what I saw, I think there are not many possibilities to do trick jumps :-/

<< Comment #99 @ 16:01 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #74

frs map is trick-jump-heaven, so theres hope for you :>

<< Comment #111 @ 18:42 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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wision - Reply to #99

indeed it is.. that's why I miss it here :)

<< Comment #77 @ 09:00 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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yuri_akira

move lg and it will be perfect imo.

anyway amazing work.

<< Comment #78 @ 09:09 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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d1z

LG is too close to QD, imo. Should be replace with MH or RG.

<< Comment #79 @ 09:34 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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ischju

having seen the video I can't help but feel I have seen this map before?!

Anyway, looks like a fast paced map and with the positioning of the rail and shaft you will have to move out a lot out of the ra room in order to get the weapons. So, yes, I think ra is strong but not as strong as people might think imho.

Also, the quad area is massive. I like it somewhat but the pillars could be a bit smaller maybe... Dunno if that works, or not as the pillars allow you to rush to certain areas and you are up there.

LG is fine there imho. Where do you want to put it? You cannot swap it with rockets, or with rail. So you either have to swap it with something like mh or sg or w/e but I don't see it working that well.

What I like about this map is that timing of the weapons becomes as important as timing of the red and yellows. Although I'd be happy with a shaft or rail and only few shards as some of the rooms are quite open and allow for proper dodging.

My few thoughts. Hope they add it to quakelive. Community work ftw (: keep it up!

<< Comment #89 @ 13:13 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Akuma - Reply to #79

Community work ftw (: keep it up!

I second that ;)

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<< Comment #80 @ 09:57 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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occultum

Like i said lg is 2cms from a teleport so you can still it from above and go to the teleport into a safe location and yeah its really near quad. It looks like a fast paced map indeed something we have alot lately i guess .. In my personal opinion i don't even enjoy that much to play maps like dm14 coz the line between being good or bad there is so small but i kinda miss maps with that tactical side and where people actually put a brain in there on making them.

Quakelive tdm as it is, is all about wipe teams out with fast pace item control and solid aim.. i kinda feel we need more tactical maps to balance this.

Saying that i also want to congratulate fellow quakers for putting their time and effort into the game that is much aprecciated by all quakers i believe.

Edited by occultum at 09:58 UTC, 7 February 2012

<< Comment #146 @ 10:26 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #80

i think similar to you, we need more tactical maps.

<< Comment #81 @ 10:11 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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nightops

Looks really nice, GJ. Just can't help to think it will be very rail heavy with alot of exits everywhere and alot of open space? I would remove the railslugs from the RED stairway and only keep the railslugs at GL/RL or maybe remove theese aswell so its like on HiddenFortress with only the railslugs the rail gives itself :-)

Maybe replace the LG with Quad YA or Quad SG?

My 2 cents.

<< Comment #100 @ 16:12 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #81

ye, thought about removing rg slugs from RA as well, I think we'll do it

<< Comment #121 @ 14:04 UTC, 9 February 2012 >>

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focuz - Reply to #100

do it mate do it!

<< Comment #84 @ 11:21 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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AdoreSP

well done akm and yellack,

now im sure it will be implemented into quakelive in year 2013,

just like with the tdm map of frs, id has the map for ages now without releasing it :(

<< Comment #94 @ 15:19 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Anonymous (82.120.162.200)

maps looks awesome. But there is one thing i dont understand about TDM maps, very often you see the best weapons (hitscan) near the main items, it's a total non-sens to me.

<< Comment #93 @ 15:19 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Anonymous (82.120.162.200)

another thing, why does QL still doesnt have the dropable MG/MG ammo when you frag an opponent that was carrying it?

<< Comment #85 @ 11:26 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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[eXodus]

this seems like a map made in heaven for a rail heavy player like juven1le, winz or silencep. Theres so many wide open spaces and huge level differences. Have to wait how it works out i guess.

Kinda looks like a mix between tourney7 and ospdm6 in my eyes.

<< Comment #86 @ 11:34 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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34338

Deletion requested by user.

<< Comment #88 @ 12:37 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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madbringer

Single pu ftl. :<

<< Comment #92 @ 14:08 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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dashimself

Seems rail heavy. I don't really like these dark textures. It's hard to say anything about the map, without playing atleast 10 games on it, but huge spaces and "hard to guard" major items will prefer aim over teamplay, which I don't like... : ). We need more maps, like dm14 or osp5.

<< Comment #95 @ 15:30 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Akuma - Reply to #92

You are always welcome to create your own maps ;)

NetRadiant

Edited by Akuma at 15:31 UTC, 7 February 2012

<< Comment #105 @ 17:03 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Attyla7 - Reply to #95

cant download

netradiant-dependencies-mingw32-20120113-7z.exe

:<

<< Comment #107 @ 17:43 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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cityy - Reply to #105

I guess you need this: http://www.icculus.org/netradiant/files/netra...n32-7z.exe

<< Comment #109 @ 18:09 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Attyla7 - Reply to #107

thx.... any tutorial? :D

<< Comment #110 @ 18:10 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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cityy - Reply to #109

http://gotdelirium.com/bubba/bubba.planetquak...pping.html

For more: http://cityy.explicits.de/?page=q3links

<< Comment #112 @ 18:57 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Attyla7 - Reply to #110

thx look foward for new awesome duel map

<< Comment #114 @ 19:06 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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cityy - Reply to #112

Good luck!
Visit #q3LEM on quakenet if you have questions.

<< Comment #115 @ 22:20 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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dashimself - Reply to #95

Well yea, good job and great effort anyway. May be it would turn out great to be played. Hope we'll see.

<< Comment #98 @ 15:50 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Drexciyian

Looks abit small and too many weapons near RA apart from that it looks promising

<< Comment #101 @ 16:14 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Yellack

Should we swap Quad-SG with LG?

YES/NO?

(personally think yes)

<< Comment #102 @ 16:22 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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cityy - Reply to #101

No.

<< Comment #103 @ 16:32 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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gooda - Reply to #101

yes, its pretty ez to dominate this map once u have control

<< Comment #106 @ 17:07 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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n0Ns - Reply to #101

Yes, its more risky to go there and take it for the team that has red control :)

<< Comment #108 @ 17:52 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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nightops - Reply to #101

I was more thinking it should swap place with the YA in the corner. Then you cant see if LG is spawned from above and have to take a chance by dropping down. Further more the water will make noise when you take it (unless you can jump across with normal jump). But swapping with Quad SG is allso an option.

<< Comment #113 @ 19:00 UTC, 7 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #108

I kind of like that but then you can 'easily' steal the ya :s
We'll fix something!

<< Comment #120 @ 16:43 UTC, 8 February 2012 >>

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nightops - Reply to #113

Maybe consider replacing the YA with a Green Armour then? :-)

<< Comment #118 @ 12:20 UTC, 8 February 2012 >>

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Anonymous (217.21.33.133)

LG+RA = GG
an overpowered ra room . it is easy to control and it gives u a comfortable pass to lg (dont forget the yellow armor) and rail.
a dude with lg and 150 armor ......
perhaps u should put rail a bit more away from ra

<< Comment #128 @ 03:36 UTC, 17 February 2012 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #118

i actually like the idea of a strong ra room that you can control comnfortly, tdm maps lately lack structure

Edited by Nukm at 03:37 UTC, 17 February 2012

<< Comment #117 @ 12:20 UTC, 8 February 2012 >>

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Anonymous (217.21.33.133)

Should we swap Quad-SG with LG?
yes)

<< Comment #116 @ 09:33 UTC, 8 February 2012 >>

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Eviili

not sure if these ut99 open maps fit quake though..

<< Comment #119 @ 15:51 UTC, 8 February 2012 >>

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Anonymous (79.214.94.218)

How about placing lg on column next to yellow armor? crogII

<< Comment #122 @ 18:20 UTC, 9 February 2012 >>

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Anonymous (178.126.215.252)

shitty map

<< Comment #126 @ 23:08 UTC, 10 February 2012 >>

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Anonymous (86.217.66.88) - Reply to #122

http://www.google.fr/imgres?q=shit+gold&u...&ty=73

<< Comment #134 @ 23:35 UTC, 25 February 2012 >>

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woxX - Reply to #122

AR4[i]BaLD* :)

<< Comment #125 @ 21:11 UTC, 10 February 2012 >>

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Zelig_

<< Comment #127 @ 11:49 UTC, 11 February 2012 >>

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Yellack

UPDATED:
1) removed the rg ammo from RA
2) Switched Quad-SG with LG
3) Made the high Quad entry (above tele) smaller, more like a doorway, so theres less view into the Quad Area. Also easier to recieve splash dmg etc.

Map is ready to rock :>

<< Comment #136 @ 23:36 UTC, 25 February 2012 >>

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Anonymous (90.44.47.239) - Reply to #127

rday to rock for premium use?

haha

<< Comment #137 @ 23:38 UTC, 25 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #136

wuts funny mr anonymous?

<< Comment #144 @ 05:30 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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Anonymous (90.44.47.239) - Reply to #137

if it s ever gonna be added, it s gonna be a premium feature.

Premium servers are all empty so what s the point ? Why not give it for free so we can use it in Q3 ?

<< Comment #149 @ 12:20 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #144

all leagues and pickup etc use premium maps, purgatory and dreadful get played tons.
Get prem, join a clan, enjoy :>

<< Comment #129 @ 12:49 UTC, 17 February 2012 >>

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Wintastic

Should definitely replace Deep Inside :D

<< Comment #135 @ 23:36 UTC, 25 February 2012 >>

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d00by

w00pw00p! Good job akm and yellack! Looking forward playing it !

<< Comment #130 @ 22:53 UTC, 25 February 2012 >>

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frs

those weapon spawn markers are sweet, should be default on every map

i like this version more than the old one

Edited by frs at 22:53 UTC, 25 February 2012

<< Comment #131 @ 22:59 UTC, 25 February 2012 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #130

they look good and they will help players out who are new to the map, good stuff

<< Comment #132 @ 23:09 UTC, 25 February 2012 >>

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frs - Reply to #131

ye im gonna ask if we can use them on terminus aswell ;f

<< Comment #133 @ 23:31 UTC, 25 February 2012 >>

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kK_Storm - Reply to #130

Yes, its quite handy indeed. I wonder though if when picmip is used those icons will be affected by it?

<< Comment #138 @ 23:39 UTC, 25 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #133

they aint, still crystal clear :>

<< Comment #140 @ 00:41 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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Disrepute - Reply to #138

Brilliant idea. Can you colour code them maybe too? Also would be nice to add some markers where spawn points are to help people learn them quicker.

<< Comment #141 @ 01:01 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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frs - Reply to #140

regular player spawn points shouldnt be visible in any way during gameplay. cpma had that cool wireframe in warmup, ql should have the same

<< Comment #148 @ 12:15 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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Anonymous (90.44.47.239) - Reply to #141

let s dream together ..

<< Comment #145 @ 09:18 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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Disrepute - Reply to #141

Why shouldn't they be visible? Everybody learns where they are anyway, might as well just speed up the process with some kind of marker.

<< Comment #147 @ 10:40 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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frs - Reply to #145

first of all, everyone doesnt learn them for sure, since we got some guys in our clan who dont even know half the spawns yet...

wireframes in warmup are enough for those who want to learn them, same as item spawns should have timers on them during warmup. the game should offer the tools for easy learning, NOT do the learning for you

Edited by frs at 10:41 UTC, 26 February 2012

<< Comment #154 @ 13:21 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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Disrepute - Reply to #147

Yep I agree, but that is out of our hands so whats the problem with just showing where spawns are, like tele exits.

<< Comment #153 @ 12:43 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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sothis - Reply to #145

I agree with frs on this, as warmup is after all just that: warmup. When the game is on, several factors start seperating those that know the game well, and those not so well. This includes knowing spawnpoints, item times, player placement for maximum efficiency and so on.

On most of all the tdm maps that are popularly played, I know somewhere around 50% of the spawnpoints for example. Most of the time if I start learning new spawnpoints, the ones that I learned earlier on 'disappear' from memory. Thus, the memory gets replaced in this matter. I see this as my way of selectively choosing what is most important to know and prioritize with during the actual game. Spawnpoints, even though they might be crucial in dual, for example, is not at the same level important in TDM, as you, at a rate, spawn closer to your teammates than to your enemies.

<< Comment #155 @ 14:39 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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scowl - Reply to #153

spawn closer to your teammates than to your enemies.

I thought we agreed it was the other way around?

<< Comment #151 @ 12:32 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #140

I want to point that we did NOT create them, they are already used in stonekeep, so we have to thank the syncmeister I believe :>
akm recoloured them.

<< Comment #139 @ 23:42 UTC, 25 February 2012 >>

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BalkanFM '

would be cool to have a brand new texture set, so its a brand new feeling...

<< Comment #143 @ 01:45 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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jamalz

You should be paid to put those item markers in every single map we already have. It's such a simple idea but changes a ton for newbs and scrubs.

Fantastic work brah.

<< Comment #152 @ 12:37 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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Yellack - Reply to #143

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2228959#pid2228959
but thanks :>

<< Comment #150 @ 12:28 UTC, 26 February 2012 >>

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GUArd

with more 2-3 such quality tdm maps, tdm can grow 50% in 1-2 months, but ID should do their work fast.

<< Comment #156 @ 17:48 UTC, 27 February 2012 >>

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n0Ns

Thanks for the nice update and for listening to the community's opinion about the map!

Edited by n0Ns at 17:48 UTC, 27 February 2012

<< Comment #157 @ 09:07 UTC, 29 February 2012 >>

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Kayzah

It's awesome to see new maps built by the community ^___^
I should build a map, too. Like back in the days.

<< Comment #158 @ 10:00 UTC, 29 February 2012 >>

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H-A-R-M

Cool map, have you considered swapping the quad and the YA in the water?

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