sif goal cameras would make a difference to England's defense

well, it might've changed the way the game went. But Germany deserve to go through at the moment.
Deutschland über alles!

More like England didn't deserve anything. Second in that group? Are you kidding me?

Not really. No width to attack due to 442 and wingers playing center positions for clubs. The diamond they consider using could have been better, but defense was meh, midfield was meh and strikers were meh. Even goalkeepers were iffy. They may have got a bit of momentum but barely...

we played 4-4-2?

Yeah but my point is we had players not playing in their club positions (Gerrard out on wing, Terry moved etc etc etc) so they kept coming out of position and leaving gaps

oh, you were talking about your side. Carry on then :)

He thinks Germany played 442 anyway.

ok

What, I do?

By becks - Reply to #4
we played 4-4-2?

By Zer1toN - Reply to #12
Yeah but

Well, didn't mean that since Germany didn't. He said it in a sarcastic tone (as I understood it) so I meant "well yeah but..."

was supposed to be comfused tone :)

Yeah we can't sugar coat it. They haven't been convincing the whole tournament.

:(

:@

woW! space-time bending by Albert Einstein

i think you meant

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7672/1277651530587.jpg

i think it was just an optical illusion:
http://kankky.apina.biz/full/31714.png

your path ends here.

Finally it's over, can get on with watching football without listening to the bullshit hype about England's completely average (at best) team.

haha england. worst loss since 1954.

oh and karma is a bitch isn't it.?

Worst defeat in the world cup ever in fact.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/wor...-exit.html

Its just like Butlins all over again :)

ah, so that's how honorable behaviour looks like. Thanks for the heads up.

Worst loss?

England 5
Germany 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BNkO9l318o&feature=related

Who cares what the event is, losing is losing. Didn't you lose2-1 at home last year to?

Your country cheated, if the keeper had an sort of honour (we know you don't) he would have thrown the ball in the net as he knew it was a goal.

Imagine how demoralised England would have felt at half time?
And when Germany scored the next goal, it was game over.

had the goal been awared, it would have have been 3-2 when they scored again, which would have still given them some faith to come back, as they did with two goals in a few minutes.

The disallowed goal was hugely demoralising, when germany scored again, it was just too much to ask, so on top of the disallowed goal, its not surprising ENG went to pieces.
Just like in a game of quake, when a game reaches a certain point, you just know deep down its not going to happen, especially when they robbed the last time they came back in the first half.

Its easy to say a team is palying shit when they got robbed, but if they were so bad how were you EVEN at half time?

The game sucked because the team had the life sucked out of them. You played better, but as the first half proved, it was still 2-2 at half time vs a seemingly sloppy England.

Once Germany scored the 3rd it was game over, the goal would have had a MASSIVE effect on the morals of the players and who knows what might have happened had germany been under additional pressure.

Whichever way you cut it, this wasn't exactly a clean win.
You had a moral and goal advantage for over 50% of the game!

Enjoy the tainted victory, playing better means nothing, you played better in the first half, but you were still 2-2 at half time.

suuure because your defense didn't suck all the time and rooney hasn't scored in eight games right? all that would've changed if the goal would've counted.

"enjoy the tainted victory" lol you guys have done that for 44 years now and will continue to do so. your ONLY victory i might add.

I pointed out in anticipation of the (you would have lost anyway argument), England were seemingly crap in the first half too, but you were still rattled with a 2-2 tie at half time.

Sorry, the goal was not allowed.
And you scored near the start of the second half.

Imagine how the team felt after coming back from 2 down to 2-2 and then knowing the goal was allowed, so when it was 3-1 (actually 3-2) it was over..

No one is saying England would have won otherwise, but I am saying had that goal been awarded it would and could have put Germany under more pressure, it could and would have changed the way people think on pitch which would have probably changed the goals.

Its not just for england thing either, this goes for any team, today there was another offside goal, despite it being shown on video straight after. (mex vs arg)

The tournament has become a lottery in many respects which damages the integrity of it.

now that sounds a lot better than the cheat accusations...

you know you're Welsh right? who cares

ahahah ... you're right. completely disregard the fact that Germany not only played better for 70mins, but pretty much humiliated the English team.

everyone cares what eventr it is

"Who cares what the event is, losing is losing. Didn't you lose2-1 at home last year to?"


xDDDDD

Your country cheated, if the keeper had an sort of honour (we know you don't) he would have thrown the ball in the net as he knew it was a goal.

ROFL

Don't ever talk about football again. Idiot.

>LMAO@UK (21 comments)
>( Journal: OT) Posted by azmo @ 16:27 BST, 27 June 2010 - iMsg, Mark

It was England's team silly, not the UK's !

Scotland, Ireland and Wales didn't qualify, so the thread topic is sufficient.

my first response to that goal was "omg goalkeeper crossed!"

he is actually known for initiating attacks in the Bundesliga. Which is imo the little plus that made him starter.

and the fact that ur main goalie killed himself and the reserve goalie was injured right before the WC started?

Maybe... JUST MAYBE.

no? it was always between Adler and Neuer. Adler got injured, so it's Neuer's turn.
also we could've used our 5th choice and still have a better goalie than 97% of the other nations.

I prefer Adler myself.

me, too. but it's not like I'd have a problem with Neuer in the goal. Or Wiese, or Butt.

The difference is marginal and it all comes down to their form on the day.

I was talking about him, Wiese and Butt.

Yeah Enke was better than all of them. :(

Somewhat on topic: lmao@args 1-0

in that case the slow motion replay was shown on the big screen.

talk about disaster.

Yeah, I dont like Rosetti but that mustve really sucked for him, and Mexico.

england was robbed blind.

i hope this is the last time they let human factor decide the outcome.

-blind :<

i rooting for germany cuz i liek schnitzels and hamburgers

if u have the opportunity try Maultaschen <3
:)

what a wonderful day it was.

Indeed!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/wor...-exit.html

die beckenbauer die

hahaha, he was so right.

He got Loew to show the English how real kick and run is played at first and fourth goal :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

:D

It's nice to see how, the World Cup really brings everyone together. Hope through football... since no one has ever been murdered over football. Soccer though, really, I should call it, just 'cause it bothers people so much. Honestly, England blames the U.S. for calling it soccer, when they should blame their own language for being so corruptible.

Notice how, in the World Cup, the places with nukes don't do as well? For those who don't know, the nuclear-club consists of: Russia, China, U.S., U.K., India, N. Korea, Israel, France and Pakistan.

Fuck Germans. What a disgrace. My rage during this match intense. I hope someone like Rijkaard steps up and spits every German in the team.

<3

this is total football, my friend.

i so hope to meet you in the finals.

*meat

If only we had exterminated your ancestors, the whole war might have been worthwhile.
That is all.

QQ

Gareth Barry. What a fucking disgrace he turned out to be. It's his fault both the goal counters launched by Germany happened. Couldn't Capello see at training how bad his shape is?

1. Throw Barry out.
2. Put Gerrard in his place.
3. Put Joe Cole in Gerrard's place at the flank.
4. ????
5. Not lose like a bunch of cunts.

Lets not blame all the defenders (bar Cole) for needlessly all going into the German penalty area with plenty of time left.

Bet that was Capello's call? :P

Who knows :P

Oh come on. Terry, Cole and Johnson are world class defenders. I can't imagine them going forward, when they KNOW Germans are faster than them, without someone telling them to do just that coz OMG WE HAVE TO SCORE LOL. It's not like England didn't generate opportunities, risk of this kind was completely unnecessary. And with Mr. Slowpokebarry "safeguarding" the midfield, a deadly counter was basically waiting to happen. Capello overestimated the capabilities/current form of his team. And sent out all the wrong people (thank fuck we didn't have to see Heskey tripping over his own legs from the beginning, at least).

Cole was back, Johnson isn't world class.

Centre backs go forward for free kicks and corners all the time. It's usually the responsibility of the fullbacks and defensive midfielder (Barry) to stay back.

Germany had no men forward so it wouldn't surprise me at all that Johnson and Barry figured it was safe to venture forward.

I'm not saying Capello isn't a moron but I wouldn't be so quick to attribute everything to him.

I think the team and foremost Cappello completely underestimated the qualities of the German team.
Think that was utterly obvious and pretty damn stupid.

Capello is just Sven V2, a 442 obsessed manager who is incapable of switching things up or making tactical substitutions.

4-1 down, you need a goal, what do you do? Swap Defoe for Heskey...

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Not just 442 either, flat 442 so you know, all you gotta do is play a no 10 or no 6 (or both).

Cole was back, Johnson isn't world class.

Centre backs go forward for free kicks and corners all the time. It's usually the responsibility of the fullbacks and defensive midfielder (Barry) to stay back.

Germany had no men forward so it wouldn't surprise me at all that Johnson and Barry figured it was safe to venture forward.

I'm not saying Capello isn't a moron but I wouldn't be so quick to attribute everything to him.

your comment remembers me this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qij-GltNyw0

Hating on Germany, way too easy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11WSStPW69k#t=2m

http://i49.tinypic.com/ajwivq.jpg

So the Germans have said that England's "goal" being disallowed is fine and acceptable as it was simply Karma for the Russian Linesman Incident in '66...Well said Germany,

On a similar note I have opened a wonderfully legitimate new recreational shower chamber that 6 million of you should pop along to, free of charge, and discuss the ins and outs of your Karma theory

bitter + redfaced

lmao@england

what spyte said.

also: hi Jamie.

David Blaine is gutted because his record for doing fuck all in a box &#8232;for 42 days has been broken...... by Wayne Rooney.

awesome.