not that it tells the whole story or anything but i thought it could be interesting, here are the stats of the candidates:
(average of all playoff matches)

dmg rcvd highlight is wrong :p

silly me
*fix

Heh, seems like vote percentage is based on frags :)

screentime too :)

were all impressive, but noctis/linkje most of all :)

This poll makes no sense, where are other players?

was thinking about making the poll very open with almost all players as an option but i decided to stick with a selection. if this gets massive criticism i will reconsider it

those players listed (apart from deus) get special treatment from their team mates, so its not entirely fair to ignore the efforts of the support players, who have to work with more difficult conditions (less items).

sure, not every player gets the same amount of resources and not every player has a role where he can dish out the most damage or whatever, but in the end who would you vote for when it comes to the mvp of a tournament: the guy who does the amazing quad run or the guy who left the armor for him?

MVP means Most Valuable Player - if somebody was incredibly good at giving others armor and not dying it should be him, even though not many people are knowledgeable enough to consider that. Technically :)

agreed, but its very easy to say like this and very hard to judge. in the end this is why deus is in the list aswell.
give me a name to your argument

I myself am not qualified to give a name. Practically, the way you did it or just listing all of the players are the only ways to do it.

What does it matter when the clear winner is noctis?

None of the above

noctis! \o\ \o/ /o/

online zyv

he did it again

(broke the frontpage)

I enjoyed Silencep's play, he did a lot for srs and had some just incredible moments.

Linkin seems to magnetize bitches when he has quad they all just spawn infront of him or something, really sick play.

Toxjq had good moments but he wasn't exactly beasting, he was more the set up guy (like fox) and linkin took over the beasting role (toxjq used to do)

Noctis carried his team on his back. Fazz disappointed me.. deus/zyv were alright..

My vote: Linkin, his pov was the most enjoyable and had the most bullshit.

toxjq totally beasted dreadful place against reason.

linkje was the best. no doubt - i did not expect anything else.

noctis, ez

Yeah, I agree. He had the best combined result across both tourneys (4th in duel, 2nd in tdm), and without him it's unlikely reason would have placed as highly, whereas if either toxic or linkin (but not both) were replaced their team probably would have been top 4 anyway.

Voted on l1njke but it was really hard choice, he was so solid and he's quad runs looked like it was QuakeWorld not QuakeLive.

In the other hand noctis played in so creative way, I mostly remember his attitude on RA at Real of steel rats. He's done so many impressive and smart things there that I'm really impressed.

toxjq was also so impressive. Hitting so many rails in a row, positioning himself so well. He's definitely TDM genius as well.

deus, holy rail, nothing to add. Not only great aim, but instinct to know were to set his crosshair waiting on opponent. A few times he was doing good job killing quad carrier from another side of the map.

Both finalist teams had all talented and skilled players, great teamplay and they made superb show. I just wished they played Grim Dungeons as last map not dm20, but the final result is fair enough,

Can't wait to the next event!

linkje for beast quad runs.

noctis very close second though!

link1n may have had good quad runs but noctis has the best quad run of all time in cpm4.

Kanye'ed.

Can it be viewed somewhere?

http://www.justin.tv/dreamhacktv/b/288415498

skip time to 1:13:00 (1 hour 13 min mark) and just keep watching, the lead up to the quad and associated team work involved to keep it open for noctis was just brilliant.

Has to be noctis. Going into duel at the last minute, and with no practice... plus his performance in TDM. That is pure Australian power.

Ehh... hes austrian *trollface*

strenx
also: silencep earned srs top 3

strenx didnt really play strong in the playoffs, aka when it mattered.
he seemed really strong in the group stage but keep in mind that he got heavily pushed by his team to be able to do so

was thinking about adding silencep but his performance, although strong, seemed a bit inconsistent (and v3rb played stronger than him in the third place match btw). in the end i only chose players of the final teams, otherwise he would have been an option i guess

dignitas match didnt decide top 3; the match vs metsu did where iirc silencep did some big run at the end to clinch the win

ah okay, you meant it like this. yeah he played really strong that game and i felt like metsu would have beaten srs if they would have had silencep back and srs went with w3st

yea same...still wouldnt have beat colwn though ;o

I think u can choose for us, since u r the authority here

why even bother asking? Very creative way to tell and validate ur opinion.

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Noctis for obvious reasons.

Has to be a winner, imo.

ye
mvp are usually top players (captains) of a team that either won or did much much better than expected (that is what 'most valuable player' implies!)

but
the heavy team aspect in this tournament still makes me vote for noctis who did extraordinarily well in both game modes and had some amazing moments in his tdm playoff matches

stremy, strenx, silencep, cooller, winz + many many others missing.

Very unfair post as usual.

as usual?

anyway lets get one thing clear before anythign else. i am doing this poll so everyone can enjoy the dreamhack tournament a little bit more and so that everyone gets more excited for the players and everything. I have no personal agenda here i am investing me free time in this and frankly, nobody else would do it otherwise as it stands atm. i am no "authority" as you put it, i am merely the guy who does something and i am always willing to listen, when have i ever forced my way?
i am trying to do it the best way i can, but its obviously not always perfect, thats why i ask for feedback. now if you wanna argue about how this poll could be improved, then be my guest and lets make it better, but if you wanna whine, like in your comment above then fuck off.

i posted something about the way the poll is designed here:
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2098512#pid2098512
if i add players like cooller and strenx i would really just need to add every player and i thought this would not be wise (asked for some feedback on this before i did the poll aswell). but as i mentioned "if this gets massive criticism i will reconsider it", so far it hasnt but i am willing to listen if you have arguments why your selection would be better.

put all pleyers mentioned in below thread, or if they are too many (don't think so), include only the ones mentioned twice.

Favourity players of dreamhack

That would be much less biased, since is the sum of many ppl thoughts.

As for ur work, kudos and I much appreciate it (and periodically plus it, since is the only way to show appreciation), but if I have diff opinion on something will usually say it.

well you can (but your two comments, especially http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2098982#pid2098982) were not really constructive. i mean dird drops a one liner, thanks for the feedback anyway, and i explain my thoughts behind not including silencep. dont get your anger towards me here). linking that thread is a good thing cause it is a form of community selection that i wasnt really aware of.

so anyone else think i should restart it with a majority of players?
btw i always thought that the MVP (for anything) comes from a team that made it far into the tournament, is that wrong? (hnns and t1es comment seem to validate that). cause thats the main reason i didnt include silencep or simply made the poll open for all players

some players that havent joined all star teams are missing indeed.

But I guess thats how you interpret the definition of 'MVP' of the tournament. I would rather put MVP of the final in this case, cause some people may argue that some people that werent in the final and would easily do better than some of those who actually were in the final aren't in this poll.

Oh well in the end who cares :P. But I'm not gonna vote because in my eyes the best player of this tournament isn't in that list of players :/ (Spart1e <3)

But I guess thats how you interpret the definition of 'MVP' of the tournament..

indeed, see the comment above. i simply dont consider someone who lost in the quarter finals for the tournament mvp. but this might be wrong interpretation of the whole thing afterall. maybe we should start a second poll where we vote for "the player who was most important for his team in the few matches they played" ;)

well it's a team mode =P

Well in the end people are not beeing objective anyway when they vote so I guess a poll like that is just a mean to get some hype in a community and it's a good thing.

I didn't mean to criticize what you're doing etc

Hey guys, there is something wrong with my headphones all I hear is impressive.

You should stop watching our POV of the dm20 game then! ;)

Call me a bus driver coz i'm taking you to school !!!

:>>

It's not that I'm biased in any way, i was just wondering;
WHERE THE FUCK IS JUVENILE?????

everyone in colwn played well, cant really pick one MVP from there team if there like one guy who made a impact and made them win matches when they shouldnt it would be prolly Silencep which was a huge improvement instead of West.

toxic impressed because he still plays at a god tier level
linkin impressed because he seemed to up his game alot compared to older tournaments
noctis always impressive in tdm
silenceps rail delivered

not sure who to vote for really. but leaning towards noctis making the most difference getting his team in the finals (even if he got most of the armors/quads relative to his teammates)

Noctis without a doubt. Not only did he kick ass at TDM, he beat DaHanG despite having left duel for good.

noctis by far, placing unexpectedly well in duel and as expected reaching finals in tdm.

why do people bring his duel results all the time? doesnt matter for this poll at all

why isn't tony in this list?

Nukm - Please put a selection of players down that clearly aren't the ones that you care about most. I enjoyed watching so many players here. I think Winz did an amazing job for Colwn - much like stermy. All the players in Reason did a fantastic job too. Silencep was a huge surprise in the tournement and also Garpy did a great job for dignitas.


Think a little bit before making these posts, there was almost 60 players at the tdm tournament... you might as well not have bothered making this post unless you were going to include many more players :-/

okay lets have a look at what you are saying and then compare it to what the vote is about and why id did what i did.
or well lets make another thing clear before that

Please put a selection of players down that clearly aren't the ones that you care about most.

not what i did at all, just because you might have done it differently does not mean that i just put in ma favorites. that list would be different.

Think a little bit before making these posts

thanks, i did. and i asked for feedback about the vote options too before i posted this.

I enjoyed watching so many players here

me too, but you know what, thats not what the poll is about its about that 1 player who was the most valuable in the whole tournament

All the players in Reason did a fantastic job too. Silencep was a huge surprise in the tournement and also Garpy did a great job for dignitas.

okay this would already be where the arguing starts. i disagree, fazz for example, although obviously playing on a high level, didnt really shine, he didnt perform exceptionally, he was not the player that mattered the most. silencep did really well in most matches yes (although i wouldnt call that a surprise). or take garpy, sure he played good for dignitas and made them the surprise they were, but others would argue that the same could be said for draven. so i dont think taking 8-9 players would have been possible, no the alternative to my 4 choice vote would have been to basically make everyone an option.
now why do i think that is bad. first of all as i understand it, the mvp, the most valueable player comes froma team that did great in the tournament. then having players like cooller and so on would almost inevitably that people are going to vote simply for their favorite player, a player from their country or maybe a teammate in case of the dh players. imho that is not what should happen in a vote like this. it isnt perfect either and i am not saying my is aswell, i kinda think i should have maybe added silencep to the list but there is no perfect way to do it in the end.

all that being said your post still got me thinking again and i will do another (non major vote) called Exceptional DH TDM Players with multiple answers possible where everyone can select palyers who in their opinion deserve to be mentioned for their performance. will edit in the link
the problem with taking

edit: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2100616

I think the poll is fine, ignore the whiners.

You should have added Silencep then surely? Oo

Also Winz did a great job considering people weren't expecting much from him and that he also did the same if not better than the rest of his team on certain maps. As well as the numerous online players who had yet to prove themselves on LAN.

I'm saying your list is poor considering there were so many 'valuable' players.

Yes - will take your new thread in to account although I still think you rushed yourself making this poll.

way to ignore everything my comment was about ;) w/e

I listened to all of it - though I decided you didn't justify yourself sufficiently :)

can you link me to the reason for silenceps hype cause i think i missed it :x

Can't remember what games silencep shined on in particular (though I think he played brilliantly all Sunday), can try out links such as - http://www.justin.tv/dreamhackql/b/288395836 :)

didnt get yours either :X <3

good poll.

find it weird that all these guys whining about their stars missing and no one mentions winz.

The so-called experts called him noob before dreamhack, I don't think their opinion matters much to him now.

Would be nice to see how much armor each player had and how much power up time they had etc.

People play all kinda different roles in a team.

indeed, hope these things will be implemented at some point

All 4 (and some others) deserve the title, impossible to pick one :x

actually its pretty easy, you just click the thing next to one of their names and hit vote



;d

not that much impressives overall :s

nice stats tho:D

MVP in loser team...hahaha