The Jews are behind this....

oy vey...

The jews invented spark plugs so they can control global traffic.

Four Lions? Loved that movie.

Rubber dinghy rapids, brother.

How have you made the most Asian thing sound white by adding brother instead of bro?

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I was going to say "wtf I am reading", but this pretty much explains it all, prolly too much mold in his weed.

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rofl

HAHAHA dat fun

Angles timings?

my dad is a freemason, what is the deal???

those jews pay so well!

I know cheap knock off jokes when I see them...

:D well but he is a freemason, this is not a joke :) and his birthday is next week and i will buy to him a tile art of freemasonry so beautiful that i seen in the market, and I'm sure he is gonna like it :)

my family has been in the freemasonry from a long time man

same, like anything else it's just an excuse to go drink somewhere away from your wife

pardon?

;)

LOL

Please enlighten me, oh you almighty.

Crazy faggot you made me watch like 2 seconds of a Zoot VOD under false pretenses (closed straight away, thank YHWH), admin ban plz + I SHOULD NUKE YOU'RE WHOLE FAMILY.

This is 100% true. id has been bought by umbrella corporation that is working hard to dumb-down the game and distract the youth while they fuck everyone up the arse and build an elaborate, maze-like, invisible mind-prison around everyone.

Umrella corp.? id software been turned to zombies?

No, they turned US into zombies.

u mean USA?

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He is exactly right. The netcode has been fixing games since 2011 or 2012, when they implemented "anti-lag," aka "backward reconciliation."

It actually seems to have gotten worse since then. This is what people generally refer to as "warp," but it accounts for a whole host of weird effects that are basically tantamount to welfare/socialism for Quake--bad players are brought up and good players are brought down, to make skill levels more equal and therefore make the game more "casual." They thought this would make the game more successful and be the next CS or something if they got lucky. It just failed and got worse and worse.

weird

it's known that arqon didn't complete his netcode work for id, and spooge and stinkhairs were left to clean up the mess.

if what you say is true, i would guess it's a genera lottery system with a white and blacklist, where priority is randomly given to some players' states as authoritative, unless a player in the white or black list is present, in which case the white listed player gains priority and the black listed player's opponents gain priority.

the white and black lists would also likely be weighted, so that a player higher or lower on either list gains or loses priority relative to those in his game who have different position values.

Arqon did finish his Laghax work and no one touched it after him. If players want to test the game without it, there are cvars to adjust or disable his server-side backwards reconciliation.

p.s. I posted in this thread because we've left clear signs of our actual conneciton to the illuminati and everytime I see this thread updated I get my hopes up that someone has found those easter eggs and shared them.

le sigh.

Not yet it seems. :(

you're new game is shit!
idiot.

The irony of calling someone an idiot while typing "you're" instead of "your".

your a fgt

i apologize for my false statement. please forgive me. it won't happen again.

or...is that exactly what you'd say in your position?!

oo, they weren't in the big dump of cvar changes I did when it first hit steam as an exclusive, I didn't get round to checking the later releases not really expecting anything new.

( g_lagHaxMs, g_lagHaxHistory )

So Yakumo found two cvars.
g_lagHaxMs (default 80)
g_lagHaxHistory (default 4)

We know that it only works for hitscan. That simplifies things. The general idea is that it considers what we could call the attack vector and looks back in the "history" to see if it actually hit something.

I have a few question, if you're willing to answer. Sorry if some are unclear, I'm doing my best with the understanding I have of hit detection.
- Is g_lagHaxMs the maximum latency the server is willing to backtrack for?
- Is g_lagHaxHistory the number of snapshots the server hols on to for backtracking purposes?
- Does setting both to 0 revert things back exactly to how they were in (vanilla) Q3A?
- Is the "attack vector" going from where the client thought the (shooting) player was when he shot towards where he was aiming? Is it adjusted to where the (shooting) player actually was in case of a prediction error? If so, how? Is the shot angle kept the same?
- Let's say a packet with "Player shot with this attack vector and a ping of 80" is received just before the server starts processing a new frame. 80/25 = 3.2 Will the server interpolate player positions between snapshot 3 (75 ms in the past) and snapshot 4 (100 ms) and then see if anyone's caught in the attack vector? Will it just try with snapshots 3 and/or 4 with no interpolation instead? If there is interpolation, does it also affect moving geometry on the map (doors, etc.)?
- Does the server take account of the client's frame buffer/timenudge when it calculates how far it has to look back?

Sorry :p.

I can answer some of those (as sync doesn't).
Do note that I have no actual way of validating this.

- the "attack vector" should be going from where the player is on the server when the fire command is received. As in all cases, where your movement is not influenced by incoming damage, this will be the same position as where you shot from.
This is simply because it takes as long for your movement command to reach the server as it does for your fire command. So because your own client is leading in movement to the server the shot will align perfectly on the server.

- packets don't contain ping but contain a 'time' which should run synchronous with the servers 'time' which are both based on milliseconds.
On the server you can pretty much do 'local time' - 'received time' = 1/2 ping. (there are quite a lot of ways to sync which would result in slightly different equations (for example working with delta's) but the main idea remains the same).
Also the server doesn't "start processing a new frame" all the actions are instantly handled as they come in. The "snapshot" is just the server state at some point in time when the clients should be informed/updated.
As for the last part, yes I would assume that it is most simple to use the ping as to see which snapshots you should take. (aka you back up what you sent to the clients and then use the same server interpolation that is used traditionally to interpolate between the 2 states. This is 'simple' because Q3 doesn't have any form of lookback but can interpolate between 2 snapshots. I won't be able to guess if the doors are also included, I would presume so as it should be contained inside of the snapshot, so at least partially they are...).

- frame buffer I would assume you mean the videocard settings? Then no it does not it would take the most recently calculated state for the 'time'.
- timenudge, yes it affects the 'time' which is in your packet, and thus reduces the amount of unlagged.

Do note that I have no actual way of validating this.

Yea that doesn't help.

- the "attack vector" should be going from where the player is on the server when the fire command is received. As in all cases, where your movement is not influenced by incoming damage, this will be the same position as where you shot from.
This is simply because it takes as long for your movement command to reach the server as it does for your fire command. So because your own client is leading in movement to the server the shot will align perfectly on the server.

I know what happens in the normal case. I'm interested in the special case of a prediction error. What if your client thinks its moving forward and thinks it is at position X1 at time T but unexpectedly something happened before that on the server (another player spawned there and blocked the way, a rail was shot and pushed you around...) making it so the player was actually at position X2 at time T? That's what I meant. But yeah it likely uses X2 with the shot's viewangle.

- packets don't contain ping but contain a 'time' which should run synchronous with the servers 'time' which are both based on milliseconds.
On the server you can pretty much do 'local time' - 'received time' = 1/2 ping. (there are quite a lot of ways to sync which would result in slightly different equations (for example working with delta's) but the main idea remains the same).
Also the server doesn't "start processing a new frame" all the actions are instantly handled as they come in. The "snapshot" is just the server state at some point in time when the clients should be informed/updated.

The packets not containing the ping is just obvious... I wasn't wondering how the latency is calculated.
Good point about the frame thing. NET_Sleep's magic.

- frame buffer I would assume you mean the videocard settings? Then no it does not it would take the most recently calculated state for the 'time'.

I only meant the buffered snapshots the client uses to smooth things visually instead of always showing the latest available information.

Edge/Boundary conditions are difficult to tell. I would say that we both agree on X2, but have no way of validating.

the interpolation between snapshots on the client is taken into account ye. (at least it was in Q3 so it would also be in QL)

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