ESR - Diabotical Kickstarter Launching Sunday

I donno, we are very late. but hopefully either us or id with Quake champions do an awesome job. someone needs to come through for fps. we'll keep trying our end though.

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<< Comment #16 @ 17:56 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #15

I'm well aware of all the (publicly visible) shenanigans you and your staff went through and I regularly check on the discord server. A small crew with little to no budget starting from scratch... unless you were releasing a cards game I can't blame you for the wait.

As for the gameplay, well, we will see I guess ;). Got to say I never had an issue with any of the ideas you came forward with in your sneak-peak twitch interventions so I'm mostly positively looking forward to it.

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<< Comment #18 @ 18:14 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #15

Pretty late, indeed. Have you even tried militia, bro?

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<< Comment #19 @ 18:37 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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mdv - Reply to #15

everything is late after ow release date. im gonna be a dick and say that: welcome to your already dead game.

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<< Comment #23 @ 18:58 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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filo - Reply to #19

you dick, leave britney alone.

no worrys 2GD, i got your back.

:)

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<< Comment #27 @ 20:07 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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xero- ' - Reply to #19

Don't you play warsow? lol

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<< Comment #35 @ 20:46 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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pacmanpl ' - Reply to #27

wow

<< Comment #67 @ 15:19 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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thelawenforcer - Reply to #27

surely its about intentions. warsow didnt aim to be some esports discipline and what not. this game on the otherhand, has rather grander intentions...

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<< Comment #41 @ 23:50 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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kava - Reply to #19

You're right, for most people, especially new gamers (and many old, Q pros) it's true.

But I tried OW and don't like it THAT much. I'm really stoked for Quake Champions and Diabotical. OW is just not my type of game.

So maybe: "Welcome to your new extremely niche game." is a bit more fitting.

<< Comment #43 @ 00:09 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #41

What Quake-like games need is players; certainly not another clone with 30 players. That's the revival 2GD wanted: players.

The success of Overwatch means the Quake revival is not going to happen, at least for years to come. Companies -id software included- will make games of the trendy subgenre introduced by Overwatch, without space for Quake-like games to have more than 30 players. Therefore, 2GD taking so much time means his project already lost all purpose.

Edited by megaman3 at 00:35 UTC, 28 July 2016

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<< Comment #47 @ 01:07 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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FlashSoul - Reply to #43

Yes Dota 2 never took off and died for the same reason. LOL was just too big.

<< Comment #48 @ 01:35 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #47

Not a good comparison. Exact same subgenre, sharing developers and copying abilities even.

<< Comment #53 @ 04:04 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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FlashSoul - Reply to #48

Oh yeah sorry I had Quake Champions and Diabotical mixed up as I posted this.

<< Comment #52 @ 03:24 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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kava - Reply to #43

I will be really sad if the games don't take off, both Quake Champions and Diabotical.. we need good FPS on Twitch and big tourneys! \o/

Here's to hoping!

<< Comment #58 @ 09:19 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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MailmanMel - Reply to #41

But Quake Champions is just like OW, with different characters, isn't it?

<< Comment #64 @ 12:42 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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kava - Reply to #58

I don't know, but anything is possible... even if that's true, I prefer the old characters I'm familiar with from Quake. + the Quake atmosphere is always more appealing to me than the cartoony OW.

<< Comment #65 @ 13:20 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #58

At least we know it will have different characters. That's not what Quake is about.

<< Comment #30 @ 20:14 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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Daniel2 - Reply to #15

Better late than never 2GD!

<< Comment #31 @ 20:21 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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Freiya - Reply to #15

Just please, choose a decent title. "Diabotical" is lul.

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<< Comment #38 @ 21:09 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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Daniel2 - Reply to #31

Reborn was already better :>

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<< Comment #57 @ 08:46 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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earth - Reply to #31

I'd even prefer diabolical :D

<< Comment #72 @ 18:28 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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7ep3s - Reply to #31

may appeal for ppl with diabetes tho

<< Comment #74 @ 20:14 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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Gobotz - Reply to #15

Make some shit for the retards.
My favorite part about doom is customizing my character.

Half demon/half robot or....
half robot/half demon.

you can even do 3/4 demon/ 1/4 robot.

a secret room with boobs.

<< Comment #50 @ 01:56 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #13

SOOO FUCKING STOKED FOR THIS!

<< Comment #2 @ 16:48 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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Kaboosh

awesome! it's only been like 3 years!

<< Comment #3 @ 16:48 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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MailmanMel

About fucking time.
Would be great if it actually took place.

<< Comment #4 @ 16:51 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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matuka

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<< Comment #5 @ 16:53 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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xou '

What is there to stream actually?

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<< Comment #11 @ 17:31 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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sleepii - Reply to #5

some frag video

<< Comment #6 @ 16:54 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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mefajpE^

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<< Comment #28 @ 20:12 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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hemostick - Reply to #6

Blast from the past

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<< Comment #33 @ 20:46 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #28

LMAO

do you remember the time...

<< Comment #29 @ 20:13 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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Daniel2 - Reply to #6

Where is Blackroom development at? ^^

<< Comment #7 @ 17:03 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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hellsy

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Edited by hellsy at 17:04 UTC, 27 July 2016

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<< Comment #32 @ 20:22 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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Freiya - Reply to #7

: D

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<< Comment #34 @ 20:46 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #7

LOL

<< Comment #51 @ 02:27 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #7

lol

<< Comment #8 @ 17:07 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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megaman3

2late

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<< Comment #20 @ 18:47 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.194.100)

so he never fucking did anything? wem-420

<< Comment #22 @ 18:52 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #20

No, rather, they wanted to have something to present the public audience with before going for the kickstarter.

<< Comment #46 @ 00:48 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #22

ur right. Esr logged me out and i thought that this was over a year old when i posted that.. Been waiting eagerly for something about reborn/diabotical to show up!

I even subscribed to their channel for like 6 months to help somewhat.

Glad hes posting here and about to show us something !!!

tldr; i went back to preschool today and re-learnt how to read. I know know hes talkign today. Reallllly LOOKING FUCKING FORWARD TO IT!!!!

<< Comment #68 @ 15:23 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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mattered_ - Reply to #46

"I even subscribed to their channel for like 6 months to help somewhat."

The shit americans say...

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<< Comment #70 @ 15:49 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #68

Think first before you type! That's over 30$, wish you mattered :)

<< Comment #71 @ 15:55 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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mattered_ - Reply to #70

Ahhh for some reason I was thinking of Youtube channels.

<< Comment #73 @ 18:34 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #68

I like the name. Just don't like it as much as reborn.

<< Comment #21 @ 18:47 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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rammy

2016 ?

<< Comment #9 @ 17:21 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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epicus147

Kappa

<< Comment #10 @ 17:30 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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Devianthe

3 years too late.

<< Comment #77 @ 07:48 UTC, 29 July 2016 >>

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Lacceh - Reply to #10

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<< Comment #12 @ 17:34 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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doom2

Very cool to see him still following the dream of a good arena fps. It would also be awesome to see the gdstudio back in some form. Hopefully not with only dota stuff but one can dream ))

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<< Comment #17 @ 17:59 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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Daniel2

the joke name and the eggbot joke made it through!

<< Comment #24 @ 19:09 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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ProT '

so glad to see diabetical. such a good game

<< Comment #25 @ 19:26 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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sulit

With QC being team based, I think this is a good opportunity for 2GDs game to focus heavily on duel. Make it the fighting game version of arena shooters!

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<< Comment #45 @ 00:43 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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sleepii - Reply to #25

2gds game has 1/1000th the funding and 1/1000000th the advertising behind it. I'm sure if qc puts in even a halfassd 1v1 mode, more people will play that than this just because of the name quake

Edited by sleepii at 00:48 UTC, 28 July 2016

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MailmanMel - Reply to #45

However it won't, which is a really stupid move by them. I'm amazed they are still developing this game which cannot really succeed, no clone game ever does.

If they'd just make a decent 1v1 mode everything would be fine. If you have good 1v1 you can turn out a new team based mode or moba mode every week.

<< Comment #26 @ 19:55 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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sTPHN

something something, take my money James.

<< Comment #36 @ 20:47 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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pacmanpl '

The memes never die.

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lolograde ' - Reply to #36

What is Reborn can never die.

<< Comment #37 @ 20:47 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

If he can make a game as awesome as his casting, it should be a great game. Better late than never. Also

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Still colaborating with this project? Hoping so, fazzinating individual ; )

Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 20:49 UTC, 27 July 2016

<< Comment #39 @ 22:02 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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p4r4

So is this the kind of game where you search for augmented reality items with your phone?

<< Comment #40 @ 23:00 UTC, 27 July 2016 >>

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sleepii

something makes me feel like my toaster might not be able to run this game

<< Comment #49 @ 01:56 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #40

ditto, mines from the 1880's

<< Comment #42 @ 00:00 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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qtip

the guy probably ran out of money for blow

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<< Comment #44 @ 00:28 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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yoyoman

GW 2gd and the team! I know a lot of ppl were discouraged after not hearing about it for years but good to know you guys are still at it.

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<< Comment #54 @ 05:50 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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Noismo

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<< Comment #55 @ 06:24 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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Ian215

LOL

<< Comment #56 @ 06:56 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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White_Insane

So on the way we have:

Reflex - well into development and a really good game being better with every new update
QC - just announced havent seen actual gameplay, but by the interviews and everything they promise sounds good.
Blackroom - Sounds promising but we haven't seen anything yet
Diabotical - Eggbots so far, lets see what the twitch campaign brings to us :)

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<< Comment #60 @ 10:15 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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cloned - Reply to #56

Not sure why you would include Blackroom to this list. As far as I understood the focus is on single player.

<< Comment #80 @ 14:30 UTC, 29 July 2016 >>

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neeple - Reply to #60

In the KS the said they plan for sp, coop, and multiplayer including 1v1 deathmatch

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nightwor...n=07458251

<< Comment #61 @ 11:50 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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TronicGgG

When and why was Reborn renamed?

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lolograde ' - Reply to #61

When: During drunken stupor
Why: During drunken stupor

<< Comment #63 @ 12:11 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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matuka - Reply to #61

Inhouse they kept referring it to Diabotical at one point as a joke or something, they decided to stick with the name because they had gotten used to it.

To be honest, this game has already accomplished something that other games have tried but failed to do, and that is to have a name worse than Xonotic.

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<< Comment #143 @ 00:34 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #63

I think Xonotic is worse...

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<< Comment #66 @ 14:16 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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palatka

ass

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<< Comment #69 @ 15:29 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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Anonymous (62.210.105.116) - Reply to #66

There's always an ass in class.

<< Comment #75 @ 22:09 UTC, 28 July 2016 >>

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dashimself

Call it Diabotical:forever!

<< Comment #76 @ 07:34 UTC, 29 July 2016 >>

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MarzenGold

The name sucks balls. Change that shit, its not marketable.

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cumrag

Gaymer 1: Hey, play this new game with me. It's called Diabotical.
Gaymer 2: ...

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<< Comment #79 @ 07:52 UTC, 29 July 2016 >>

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Lacceh

too late soz

<< Comment #81 @ 15:55 UTC, 29 July 2016 >>

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Melted

Should name it Arena Crackers; the whole egg bot theme, looks like Castle Crashers - I loved that game :)

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<< Comment #82 @ 17:34 UTC, 29 July 2016 >>

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Lethe

I don't know what is 2gd trying to prove but that ship has sailed. People are gonna play overwatch until quake is out and then they will play quake. There was a period of a couple of years when this game could have filled a void but now it's just too late. It's probably just a matter of pride to finish something he started after all. But to expect a huge success now when qc is already announced and people are playing overwatch, it's just too late. How is it even supposed to become an esport title? A small indie game vs valve bethesda and blizzard? Especially after gaben developed that special bond with jay after shanghai.

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<< Comment #83 @ 22:47 UTC, 29 July 2016 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #82

Not every quake pro/semi-pro player plays overwatch. I can tell you many have already tried (myself included) and already stopped.

The gameplay and meta is dull as fuck, also there's little influence one player's performance can have on a game, it can't be fully satisfactory to people who have been achieving stuff in Quake. And the skill transfer is there but the skill cap is so low that I can't see many quake players stand out other than having good contacts to be able to get themselves into top teams/organizations.

I mean the biggest proof I could bring to emphasize this is when we see winz playing in a team as MERCY. Being an aim prodigy is irrelevant in Overwatch. You just need a bare minimum of it. As for the rest of the game's aspects, it is far more tailored for people who have been playing games such as TF2 or even MOBAs at a high level.

Overwatch is big alright and I'm (almost) sure a couple of them will succeed at the highest level but come on, let's not count our chickens before they hatch (I googled that xD), give Diabotical a chance, atleast wait for the Kickstarter :).

Edited by dem0n at 22:48 UTC, 29 July 2016

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<< Comment #85 @ 10:44 UTC, 30 July 2016 >>

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Gandhi - Reply to #83

Give a chance to Diaboloticker cause demon doesnt like OW and his friends neither do.

Diaboloticker wont force winz to play as Mercy.

No means no in Diaboloticker.

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<< Comment #86 @ 13:54 UTC, 30 July 2016 >>

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esdf - Reply to #83

Your shaolin ass kissing technique is strong.

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GEKKO- - Reply to #86

You say this as if none of what he just mentioned has any merit. Or was it just a total non sequitur on your behalf?

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<< Comment #155 @ 08:42 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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esdf - Reply to #87

I wrote it cause he's bandwagoning almost every new fps that comes out.

So yeah, what he wrote has no merit.

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GEKKO- - Reply to #155

That's a fallacy.

He could have been the loudest advertiser of every single game that comes out, and still it would be totally unrelated to the matter of whether or not his arguments against Overwatch are true. They stand or fall on their own merit.

So yeah...

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<< Comment #191 @ 21:55 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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esdf - Reply to #177

He's just coming up with excuses on why he failed at yet another exports title. Kinda like Belgian football team at this euro.

You need to look at the bigger picture, otherwise his shaolin ass kissing technique will get you good.

<< Comment #194 @ 22:25 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #191

You must be trolling by this point :P.

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<< Comment #195 @ 22:43 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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GEKKO- - Reply to #191

Again the same issue.

It could indeed all be excuses, but that does not have any bearing on whether or not his arguments are valid.

<< Comment #88 @ 15:40 UTC, 30 July 2016 >>

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Brancaleone - Reply to #86

It's incredible what a dick you can be

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<< Comment #90 @ 09:55 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #88

Nvm, it's just a piece of bitter prick.

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esdf - Reply to #90

You wish.

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pacmanpl ' - Reply to #86

daym

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iavoal - Reply to #83

Why ain't you attending Qcon if you're not into OW?
You would have rollfstomped every murican except Shane, be at least on par with Austrians and give a good fight to Hangoverty and Parkinson's.

<< Comment #140 @ 23:24 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #91

No money for 12th - 16th innit.

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dem0n - Reply to #140

Who knows I was top8 at DH when it had cypher, rapha, evil, toxic, avek, dahang, spart1e, fazz, k1llsen, fraze, kronic, twister, matrox, etc. :).

To me this is good enough. Do you think I expected to be at the point I got myself when I was playing baseq3 freezetag for the lulz ages ago ? :P

Anyway to answer to the iavoal - I don't have that kind of money for that kind of travel at the moment. But I'd have loved to ofcourse...

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<< Comment #160 @ 09:06 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #142

goodness start one of those threads i'd of given about 15$, not much but get enough people to do it and ur there!

Although i understand why some people consider it begging, but some of us actually Want to see you play haha.

<< Comment #92 @ 10:33 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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nex1 - Reply to #83

"I mean the biggest proof I could bring to emphasize this is when we see winz playing in a team as MERCY. "

Winz and Dahang aren't playing mercy because aim is irrelevant.

They are because they don't have the hour volume put in the game to be very good in other classes. That's what they said themselves.

So they play mercy, that requires the least amount of experience and aim in the game.

I mean, we can't whine that Overwatch is a brainless aim-only fest and then at the same time that aim is irrelevant. Pick one.

Having a good aim is crucial for classes like Mcclick, the sniper, soldier.

The proof is that even "aim prodigies" like Cypher aren't the best aimers in the ladder, at all. CS players and TF2 players are. And it does make a difference to be a good player, otherwise everyone could win, but that's not the case at all.

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dem0n - Reply to #92

They are because they don't have the hour volume put in the game to be very good in other classes. That's what they said themselves.

Everything you've said doesn't clash with my way of thinking to be honest. Firstly, ofcourse they would say that. And maybe they got into teams because of the contacts they had. Why else would ambitious teams get players that don't have enough time to play the game as competitively (and seriously) as possible ?

I mean, we can't whine that Overwatch is a brainless aim-only fest and then at the same time that aim is irrelevant. Pick one.

I haven't said that either. Aim in Overwatch as well as in most FPSes is crucial but the aim 'skill' required isn't as high as say CS:GO or QL.

Bottom of the line, you haven't really disagreed with my core message, so I guess that means we essentialy both agree that Overwatch is nothing like Quake.

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nex1 - Reply to #93

Of course we agree overwatch is nothing like quake. I've yet to hear anyone claiming otherwise. At most they both share the same genre, but it ends there.

Regarding the other points, why would they lie? What they said is perfectly reasonable. No reason to lie about that, it is what it is. Both Dahang and Winz started later than most quakers, and didn't play heavily. So the only way to help their teams was to play the lowest skills required kind of support- mercy.

you can't play sniper if you don't know the angles, the maps, the chokepoints etc.

Also if you lack the aim- because winz, cypher, toxic, strenx, evil, are "aim prodigies" in quake only, in other aim heavy games they aren't championship material. They just don't have the hand-eye coordination and the reflexes required to excel in aim-based games.

The biggest fish in a pond is small compared to the biggest fishes in the ocean.

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<< Comment #97 @ 16:05 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #94

I think games like csgo are static military type shiooting skill. Stationary waiting once you have positon. Way diff from versatile aiming in quake.

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thelawenforcer - Reply to #94

if their aim is substandard, and their gamesense and knowledge is so weak that they are relegated to the 'easy' characters - what exactly do they bring to their teams?

does that not also make dem0ns point about the skill cap and difficulty to actually measure skill/contribution.

<< Comment #171 @ 13:41 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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nex1 - Reply to #158

They bring support/healing to their teams. Mercy is a crucial component of any OW team. Zenyatta or Lucio can be omitted, but not mercy.

<< Comment #182 @ 16:45 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #171

He meant what they bring as PLAYERS, not as roles in the team. Meaning it wouldn't make much difference being them or "anybody" else, because there's not so much skill needed...

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nex1 - Reply to #182

Oh, well, but they are mates. They know each other from forever and have been in similar situations before. Also it's better to have a player with a big potential than someone barely scrapping by, because both Winz and Dahang could start investing serious time and eventually become useful in other classes too.

But yeah, if you just need a mercy, you can fit almost anyone in that spot, it changes little to none.

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<< Comment #175 @ 14:22 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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zar4 - Reply to #94

Watch a cypher stream, when he's playing OW, and tell me he doesn't have a reflex/snap aim....

Clueless post

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nex1 - Reply to #175

I actually followed a lot of Cypher's and Rapha's overwatch streams, and it's for that reason that i can tell they don't have not aims nor abilities timing/management on par with the top teams.

Cypher is the best quaker in overwatch, and even he looks "mediocre" compared to the top dogs. And i'm not talking only in flick/track aim, many others are smoother than him in movement, combos, timing the abilities cooldowns to the split second in between absolute chaos, range finding, corners peeking, situational awareness, and whatnot.

And i would be the clueless one...

<< Comment #84 @ 07:50 UTC, 30 July 2016 >>

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MailmanMel - Reply to #82

QC = Overwatch, maybe a few tweaks here or there, but if it's class based it is a TF2/Overwatch clone and clones usually do not amount to anything. Just look how many MMOs tried to be WoW killers and how many MOBAs are still being made although LoL and Dota 2 have been in place for half a decade and will never ever fall from that position unless new iterations of themselves come out.

There is still a need and place for a game like this.

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wormed - Reply to #84

It's Quake + a unique ability. Now I'm not sure what autism power you used to denote that as 'class based', or even call it another Overwatch, but maybe you should first see the game? I donno.

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<< Comment #89 @ 16:47 UTC, 30 July 2016 >>

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the_cool_gamer - Reply to #82

Why do you think that the deathmatch fps and moba audiences overlap? Overwatch is Monday Night Combat without creeps lol

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<< Comment #96 @ 16:04 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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@follow2GD:

Live in a second @ http://twitch.tv/thegdstudio for our FPS Game Diabotical Kickstarter launch.

<< Comment #98 @ 16:28 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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MailmanMel

Looks good. Will definitely be playing this, though I knew it 2-3 years ago already.

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<< Comment #99 @ 16:44 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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megaman3

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/84288219...-gd-studio

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<< Comment #100 @ 16:44 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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AHXNXA

looks great

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<< Comment #101 @ 16:47 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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megaman3

It'd be nice to have a clear "Kickstarter edition" reward. All digital, exclusive content for backers, at say $30

Also a "Diabotical+Battlerite (1 copy)" combo. Now the only choice is to have two copies of each.

Edited by megaman3 at 16:48 UTC, 31 July 2016

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<< Comment #102 @ 17:03 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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Daniel2

That already looks like better than what QC will be.

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<< Comment #103 @ 17:06 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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cloned

Pledged!

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<< Comment #104 @ 17:08 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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slm

FUCK OFF HATERS, ITS GOOD

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<< Comment #105 @ 17:49 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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pacmanpl '

Better than Overwatch confirmed.

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<< Comment #106 @ 18:02 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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Gobotz

looks really good!

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<< Comment #107 @ 18:09 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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sulit

woah! this looks great. it has everything a game needs. wow!! great job 2GD

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<< Comment #108 @ 18:16 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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eh

Yay, a World of Padman remake.

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<< Comment #109 @ 18:17 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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dem0n

<3

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<< Comment #111 @ 18:31 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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wormed

It does look fun. Hope it succeeds.

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<< Comment #112 @ 18:32 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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abso

Ok gonna sign up for Kickstarter

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<< Comment #113 @ 18:35 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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mouse*

this has potential, better concept than QC

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<< Comment #114 @ 18:38 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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mefajpE^

Looks fun and good apart from the models.

Edited by mefajpE^ at 18:38 UTC, 31 July 2016

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fau - Reply to #114

Had they stuck to old models, it would have looked indistinguishable from reflex.

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<< Comment #115 @ 18:48 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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fuzz

I like the concept of robots, could be rewarding in terms of cosmetic stuff and other crap.

Artstyle is vomit inducing, but that's just me and year is 2016.

Name is silly.

Other than that, looks nice.

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the_cool_gamer

IT LOOKS SO GOOD THANK U 2GD THANK U EGGBOTS SEEMSGOOD SEEMSGOOD SEEMSGOOD

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<< Comment #122 @ 20:06 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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wem420

so Fucking stoked.

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Anonymous (85.220.87.125)

lg where?

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Linkyyy

rofl

Edited by Linkyyy at 19:48 UTC, 31 July 2016

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<< Comment #120 @ 20:04 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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sonic ' - Reply to #118

Edited by sonic at 20:07 UTC, 31 July 2016

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<< Comment #131 @ 20:59 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #118

The amount of jokes/references thoughout the kickstarter is quite remarkable.

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<< Comment #119 @ 20:01 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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stripy

congratulations jay, to you and your team

<< Comment #123 @ 20:15 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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rehepapp

he put it in pounds so the numbers look smaller

nevertheless, looks good

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<< Comment #124 @ 20:17 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #123

No, They're London based or something which is why it shows in Pounds, they actually could not change the currency shown on the page afaik.

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<< Comment #125 @ 20:33 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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Venser

Edited by Venser at 20:34 UTC, 31 July 2016

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<< Comment #126 @ 20:47 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #125

That's a good one :)

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<< Comment #128 @ 20:55 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #126

Is there any joke I missed with this one ? I can't read what's on the paper. Or that's the flags... ? :S

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #128

It's cooller explaining to avek the strategy to beat tox on the pizza box.

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<< Comment #136 @ 21:06 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #130

Oh lol ok thanks :). Nice touch indeed.

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stripy - Reply to #128

cooller/avek pizza box tactics vs toxjq

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<< Comment #135 @ 21:05 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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Tebeg - Reply to #125

Was this explanation thing caught on camera? Would love to see it.

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p4r4

First mod should be gibs

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<< Comment #129 @ 20:57 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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Tebeg - Reply to #127

They should crush like eggs, yellow white stuff.

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<< Comment #134 @ 21:01 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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fazz - Reply to #129

i pitched this already :D

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<< Comment #133 @ 21:00 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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zlr

I like the attitude behind the game, it's fun to play a game that doesn't take itself seriously and makes you laugh.

Will be trying to spread this kickstarter as much as I can.

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<< Comment #137 @ 21:45 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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Meph1stoo '

Looks fun, will buy. Get shaft tho

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d4rkyfirefly - Reply to #137

There is already shaft its yellow tho

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<< Comment #139 @ 22:28 UTC, 31 July 2016 >>

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gbmaster

Overwatch is gay as fuck

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<< Comment #141 @ 00:27 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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lolograde '

I like how 60% of the Kickstarter video is about 2GD talking about himself. lol...

Otherwise, looks good.

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zlr - Reply to #141

Is 2GD talking about himself not entertaining?

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<< Comment #145 @ 00:51 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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BalkanFM '

1/3 of the goal reached the first day so i guess this is gonna complete... have to say im real happy for 2gd, he could have done many other things but he decided to work on something he loved even if it was a slight gamble... folow your heart people!

he had new ideas for the game everyday and people thought he was just fantasizing and that it would be impossible to realize them all.. but look now, so many little cool things actualy implemented in the game, like tournament sponsors logo on the map and and health items etc...

reflex have to find a james of their own because you need this kind of creativity thats thinking about things besides just the naked gameplay and he proved theres lots of things you can do...
real shame the reflex team doesnt have this aspect covered and the fact that they set their ks goal a little to high to complete... sadenes me really because reflex is straight hardcore, technical and robust, with no sugar coating, its like if carmack and arqon had a baby together... a real quake 3 succesor.

15, 20 years ago, players were tru nerds, with broader interests regarding computers than just video games, nowadays people strugle to setup quake 3 even if it seems really simple, dl the game, get a good client, the mod you want, move some files and folders, edit the cfg... too complicated for many, and its the majority these days. diabotical went with the times and i just hope the reflex team do too

congrats james

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<< Comment #146 @ 01:11 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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the_cool_gamer - Reply to #145

I can't see Reflex having any kind of significant success at any point after seeing how polished Diabotical already is.

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lolograde ' - Reply to #146

Why can't they both be successful? There aren't enough players in the world?

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InDepther - Reply to #147

reflex had only one vision: CPM

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cha0z_ - Reply to #146

Also let's not forget that James have some connections in esport.

Reflex also looks good.. but too much cpm alike for my taste.

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dansen - Reply to #146

i have to say i really prefer the robot style over reflex' generic looking robots because they have "character".

other than that tho, i don't see how you can compare the two just off this trailer. there is no way to even estimate how polished diabotical is.
reflex on the other hand is really playable, has a ton of good looking maps, workshop integration, replays.. basically everything you'd expect off a polished game except matchmaking and ladders or whatnot.

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cha0z_

Awesome, looks promising. :)

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wem420

He WAS serious :DDDD so hard to tell sometimes.

AFter only ever seeing him do dota etc on his stream and stopping the quake tourneys....this is fucking awesome :)

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xgo

Looks nice. It kinda reminds me of the czm game, cuz of the eggbots.
I will support it!

When is the closed beta planed?

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iavoal - Reply to #150

It kinda reminds me of the czm game

Whats that?

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Devianthe - Reply to #163

Ultrono Arena

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<< Comment #151 @ 08:13 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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PsY^

Looks like a cheap version of Overwatch, and a bad cartoon version of Quake.

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MailmanMel - Reply to #151

... and Overwatch is a newbie friendly lame ass copy of Team Fortress, so what

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ogdiabz

"Bonus Stretch Goal: $1,000,000 - I, James '2GD' Harding will get a tattoo of Gabe Newell dressed as a shitty wizard riding the donkey courier with an icey frog perched upon the donkey's head. Below the tagline 'bUrself'. Tattoo location, up for a vote. left or right buttock."

Hmm :)

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<< Comment #154 @ 08:41 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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Devianthe

I take back everything I said about it, looks awesome.

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Fattyboom

is there a youtube version of the kickstarter trailer yet?

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Devianthe - Reply to #156

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Fattyboom - Reply to #157

i was thinking of an official version in HD... this looks like it's ripped from the kickstarter page or from twitch

thx anyway...

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Devianthe - Reply to #161

Sorry, that's the only version there is on youtube at the moment.

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TUMULT - Reply to #161

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4T_gY1er5I

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<< Comment #164 @ 09:18 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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filo

nice1 james! nice1 idd..

I like what i see, but an option to desaturate just map colors will be awesome.

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Tebeg - Reply to #164

From what he said you can assume the game will be as modifiable (wow, I thought I just invented that word) as possible. So I guess you can take it as granted.

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filo - Reply to #166

kewl thats nice.

and i like the egg bots model, less problems with hitboxes

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Tebeg - Reply to #168

I liked that whatever idea popped up in the chat during stream James was mostly like "yeah, we thought about it". And I went here, popped a stupid egg crush idea and fazz goes "I pitched that already". So it seems they took quite a time to get it done and think it all through. I was hyped for few games, but now I really want and hope this will get attention it imo deserves.

So far it does, almost half of the first goal covered in less than 24 hours. Nice!

<< Comment #174 @ 14:18 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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DisruptioN

bloodrun when

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rehepapp - Reply to #174

IIRC it was made within 10 hours after the release of the first pre-alpha of the map editor.

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dizzle

im thinking donate but i got to think o the family first mane =]<o~~~

and the blunt always the blunt

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filo - Reply to #173

choose family, donation 11 pounds, family, blunt.

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dizzle - Reply to #176

yo mane my wife got high as shizzle and sucked my dizzle =]<o~~

<< Comment #167 @ 10:53 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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GUArd

a little to fast, for my taste... but will go with kickstarter.

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neeple - Reply to #167

I didnt see any heavy use of air control or anything. Whenever he turned in the air it seemed to be a double jump or a dash in a different direction.

Too early to tell of course but it looks like it wont be as fast as stuff like Reflex. If it is that fast I hope there are some big duel maps

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #169

I would not be surprised if a lot of these things will be customizable. Some devs have the attidude 'we know better', but my impression is that it's not the case here. This game should be more community driven, as in, there would be variations, and people playing would determine their popularity. I'm sure 2gd has some non negotiable points when it comes to the design, but i doubt they area anything low level such as a particular form of air control, or a mode.

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<< Comment #180 @ 16:17 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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neeple - Reply to #179

They definitely will be customisable. From the start 2gd has talked about making the game like a platform and in the trailer and stream he talked about moddability, being able to create your own movement systems and assets and all sorts.

Seems like he wants to create a base and let the community run with it

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<< Comment #199 @ 09:24 UTC, 2 August 2016 >>

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Belial - Reply to #179

yes , it is a good thing for Beta and such . But when the game becomes final i do surely hope there will be 1 set of meta and physics.

I would rather play a game with physics and meta that arent just what i personally want, then to relearn new set of physics and meta each server i join.

I am excited. =p

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #199

I think you can make it work for after release as well. It's a matter of encapsulating settings properly into modules, and give them the appropriate visibility.

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<< Comment #181 @ 16:29 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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dem0n

As far as I know they intend to let the community find the competitive mode themselves by "probing" and "testing" of sorts. They don't have a specific set of physics and gamemode in their head, the idea is to let as much freedom to the community as possible. If you like QW movement, then you should get some. If you prefer Q4, you will aswell.

This is mostly speculation from all the information I could gather but I wouldn't worry about physics in this game. Nor the competitive aspect : they do plan to have integrated social features aswell as automated tournament systems, ladders, stats and leaderboards.

If you haven't donated yet because you fear about movement or a lack of social features or community involvment, I suggest you put those fears aside and give it a go ;).

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<< Comment #183 @ 16:48 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #181

aswell as automated tournament systems, ladders, stats and leaderboards.

AND matchmaking...

Edited by GzUz at 16:48 UTC, 1 August 2016

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<< Comment #188 @ 20:03 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #181

Really looks promising. Gives me a warm feeling inside. Not fuzzy, but warm and wholesomes

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wormed

Fuck it. I hate backing games nowadays because they're usually either vaporware or dog shit. But, I gotta hand it to 2GD, he's got a lot of the major work already done through his own funding AND $145,000 isn't outlandish like some idiotic Kickstarters go for.

Anyway, I pledged a few bucks. Good luck to it.

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<< Comment #197 @ 03:16 UTC, 2 August 2016 >>

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GEKKO- - Reply to #187

But Diabotical is vaporware. Haven't you heard? :>

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T1E

Can't decide, 2 hours with Soe or Mr. Florin...

Edited by T1E at 20:39 UTC, 1 August 2016

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MailmanMel - Reply to #189

Why not both?

and 2gd will be floating around somewhere at all times as well.

Edited by MailmanMel at 10:00 UTC, 2 August 2016

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T1E - Reply to #204

It says offline. Unfollowed. Unfavourited. Unsubscribed. Unliked.

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crea*

I'm so damn curious about the movement. I will probably love or hate the game just because of movement...

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dem0n - Reply to #190

http://www.esreality.com/post/2832226/#pid2832153

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megaman3

While I wrote (I think) that I wasn't going to pledge, the $150k goal sounds fun.

<< Comment #196 @ 23:19 UTC, 1 August 2016 >>

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r34Lh4t3 '

1million bonus goal ^^

<< Comment #198 @ 08:00 UTC, 2 August 2016 >>

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Noismo

Player models looks stupid, more stupid than in Reflex.

Another dedgameololol.

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Anonymous (167.114.118.4) - Reply to #198

i'm guessing they were being pressured to make em look "iconic", easily visible, and large enough for newbies to hit. that's the trend nowadays. that's the current generation, a bunch of autists who put more effort into accusing everybody of cheating rather than getting good.

the freedom to modify the game to ur liking to such an extent is really refreshing and i can't wait to see how that will affect the numbers, given how restrictive today's titles are. hopefully more "e-celebrities" keep promoting it, otherwise it's just another indie game, everybody will forget about 2 months after launch

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T1E - Reply to #200

First time I watched Diabogical gameplay. But I think it's about the hitbox too. Modern games have actual hit models with x partitions following the visuals as much as possible. Therefore the headshot hitbox in CS:GO for example can move a meter just by using your mouse. This will be different for what's pretty much a sphere.

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obi - Reply to #210

the eggbot came from twitch i think. he was showing concept art, basically generic reflex style robots. the artist had sent him the eggbot mostly as a joke and twitch chat demanded they use it.

thats how i remember it anyway

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<< Comment #201 @ 09:48 UTC, 2 August 2016 >>

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gbmaster

wp on £70k
I like the eggs

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M1zzu

well memed.

Kickstarter with 29 days left already has more money than the Reflex one had after its entire campaign. That's name recognition for ya.

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SIHdW3W - Reply to #202

reflex ks was awfully done

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<< Comment #205 @ 11:22 UTC, 2 August 2016 >>

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Anonymous (94.141.177.102)

The name of the game is pretty unattractive. Even repelling. Should be something else.

Also the weapon design is too childish, but if they implement cosmetological customizations - that wouldn't pose a problem.

Everything else looks promising.

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dem0n

Only on ESR do I read that the game name is" repelling"; "unattractive", "sucks".... I don't think it is that bad. I think it's because people liked the name Reborn better and yeah it sounds cool and all.

But to be honest Diabotical makes sense for the identity the game is trying to get itself, which is : not so serious, and robot eggs exploding + the whole cosmetic aspect of the game.

Reborn is a kewl name and all but it was only firstly named like that because they had no real idea what they were going for, except that they wanted to revitalize the fast arena FPS genre ala Quake.

Edited by dem0n at 12:04 UTC, 2 August 2016

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wormed - Reply to #207

I agree. I think they were smart going for something like these 'eggbots.' Is it my preferred choice of model? Of course not but I understand to reach as many markets as possible, you shouldn't have Doom-style cyborg demons and gibs.

And let's be honest... we're all gonna strip off all the textures anyway so we can have a constant 5000 FPS.

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<< Comment #212 @ 17:13 UTC, 2 August 2016 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #207

Yeah i like the name. Seems to be esreality confirmed!

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r34Lh4t3 '

35 pounds + cheddar GL

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<< Comment #214 @ 17:35 UTC, 2 August 2016 >>

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aeoL

I really like the games philosophy of maximising ways for the player to express themselves in game either through cosmetics like stickers or models to mechanics like movement and weapons etc. The whole WWE openings for each player in 1v1s is such a good idea too.

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<< Comment #216 @ 12:20 UTC, 3 August 2016 >>

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Arra

when is this game coming out?

<< Comment #217 @ 13:32 UTC, 3 August 2016 >>

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sonic '

diabotical

<< Comment #218 @ 13:36 UTC, 3 August 2016 >>

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sonic '

<< Comment #221 @ 18:23 UTC, 3 August 2016 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #218

Imma check that out :D

<< Comment #219 @ 15:10 UTC, 3 August 2016 >>

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SisemeN

Can't wait for release, just after Half Life 3.

<< Comment #220 @ 16:40 UTC, 3 August 2016 >>

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filo

20k from goal... go go powerrangers

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Ennea

why isnt the kickstarter in latest news?

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<< Comment #223 @ 00:21 UTC, 4 August 2016 >>

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13m3

>100.000 now

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<< Comment #225 @ 18:53 UTC, 4 August 2016 >>

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harosh

Woo-hoo!

You are now an official backer of Diabotical by The GD Studio.

FeelsGoodChad

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<< Comment #226 @ 21:22 UTC, 4 August 2016 >>

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iavoal

Less than 1 000 to go!

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Infuscomus

I did support the project, but how would they know what is my steam account and which name I want to have in the game "thanks" ?

Sorry, first time I do this kind of things on Kickstarter.

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dem0n - Reply to #227

They will contact everyone that has pledged in order to give out the promised features. That will be done after the Kickstarter is over tough.

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