Only if they released it with up to dated graphics, ragdoll physics, gore, all content unlockeable free with experience points (LOL type), matchmaking, the original announcer... aka not ruining Q3 but improving on it, then maybe people would stay for more than a couple weekends.

Why do some people keep mentioning "ragdoll physics", how would Quake benefit from that? (I personally think it would look retarded, but whatever.)

Because anyone born after 1995 will laugh at your dead model flying on the ledge of an structure.

Quake has very rudimentary animation, but improving the animations does not necessarily mean you have to use ragdoll physics.

Because anyone born after 1995 will laugh at your dead model flying on the ledge of an structure.

I will laugh anyone away who were borned after 1995 and thinks it has anything to do with arena FPS.

As 1991 born I laugh at all those retarded ragdoll physics in many other games.

#edgy
They aren't retarded, they are logical. It's logical that dead corpses don't fly on ledges. THAT's retarded.

Quake has nothing to do with realism. Now that's logical.


Nor any other military FPS.

In GTA 5 when you stand on pavement with only one foot, one is straight and the other one bends. Mind blowing.

And when you crash your car with 200 km/h into a concrete wall after wrecking a truck and 3 airplanes with your hood, you just get out of the driver's seat and run away. Volvo pales in comparison.

Because it's fun. Same with ragdolls. Hiting people's heads with shovel in Postal was fun :)

Peeing in their face then let them vomit onto your chest, just so you legally have a reason to behead them with a shovel was heartwarming.

On the other hand, ragdoll in Quake would look stupid.

Ragdoll could look stupid, tr00.
But in Reflex... : ))))
I can't wait for 2017...

Dumbass logic. Compromising gameplay in favour of realism, that's a big mistake, and that's what makes a game shitty.
Now adding high definition graphics, high end effects, and ragdoll physics so it doesn't feel like it's 1998, to render unrealistic, awesome gameplay of Quake, that's an objective improvement, it would only improve the game, and it is necessary in 2014. Whenever I show a frag video to my friends they are dissapointed when they play the game because it doesn't look as cool with all the effects and high resolution texture packs and what not.
Just imagine blasting a guy in the ztn teleport in the stairs and seeing the corpse roll down the stairs. That would be cool to see, makes the game behave as expected in 2014 and doesn't even fucking break the gameplay.

Hats and helicopter strikes.

That shitty comment further proves my point. Being against ragdolls is objectively stupid.

Shitty "new" ideas what makes Quake rot. Period.


Seems you need some lens flares, so go play your ragdoll HD games. Objectively.

Yeah, wanting to please newbies without breaking gameplay is a bad idea. Consider suicide.

/care about your precious newbies. So far the game was crippled because of the "need" of pleasing them.

If they are playing for bump maps and hats, they don't belong here. Consider buying a gamepad.

As a newbie when I was a kid I got hooked to Q3 because of the gore, brutal action and amazing graphics and nice effects and playing around in DM17 blowing people in the air with a railgun. Years later im a high tier duel player that plays with picmip 5.

Now, had the game had visuals of effects from a decade ago, would it have pleased my newbie mind as much? would i have stick with it? nope.

You have no notions, stay clueless.

What you wrote is pretty sad on it's own right.

I always preferred gameplay and atmosphere over GFX, even when I was 14 years old (aka when Q3 came out). That's why I play games from the 8 / 16 bit era even nowadays (besides QL / QW and one or two - NOT MAINSTREAM - PS3 titles here and there).

Stay wearing a hat. Buy one for teh noobs too.

Not everyone is a flamboyant aspie. Stay wearing a fedora.

Yeah, there are people who actually have no idea what's important. Glad I'm not one of them.

Nice hat you have there. Bought at the fairground?

What I remember from games is legs flipped by 180 degrees, jerking arms etc.

Not just that, but because they are cool as shit. Imagine someone coming through the tele and going fast towards the red armour on ztn and then popping them with a rail in the chest or head and seeing them flop onto the red ledge and fall down

Current death animations are more funny. : D

why is everyone under the impression that their opinions are so important they deserve a brand new thread

internet

thank you

Thank you for saying that :)

diabz are you honestly happy? =D

I don't think it'll keep up... but if it does I'll eat my hat

Post vid

lmao @ clinging on to hope!

Server Status: QUAKE LIVE is offline.

awaiting challenge....

That's 323.5 times the cpm playerbase.

1 cpma player who plays till the end of the world > 5000 noobs who stick around for 15 minutes.

not sure if you're this retarded or you just come to esr to bait cpmers

http://ql.leeto.fi/#/activity

lol nice stats, so much ffa games...

loadouts helps to enjoy ffa games for casual quake player. tottalb was correct it seems.

Want me to prove you wrong? : D

well numbers show 800+ffa games + the most played mod ... there must be something going on.

... i was playing some ca yesterday and i was surprised, very balanced elo games (maybe just luck situation, maybe because of influx of players).

I was referreing to the "enjoy ffa games for casual quake player" part.

I'm curious. Prove him wrong

This proving assumes we should play on the same server at the same time.

ohhh I thought you were going to somehow prove that casual players arent enjoying loadouts or something

casual players probably arent enjoying his shaft

saucy

Le-le-levitation.


Or rail. Or sg. Or BFG. : D

it's leviosaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

This is the black sunday

does this mean you will try to stay more positive against quake live?

i see your points, but some are based on old info ie. i am not longer a mod, since my time was very limited untill a few months ago. I only try to contribute now, like i did at the base start of QL and in beta and that is gathering links n stuff, so people don't need to search the whole www to get some.

FYI He was banned for cheating and i had no intension in trolling, that was an honest question, since i saw his tutorials on positioning, which tbh are important tutorials, if more people knew about it, there wouldn't be so much wh accusations.

In quake live history i met alot of clever lads, who wanted to help the game, you included, but i noticed that even if they had good bright ideas, if they didn't put those ideas in a perspective or in the atmosphere developers or bussnismen work in, then those ideas simply went out of the window.

I know rootsra for example he had some fun ideas, i even played in a clan with him for a little while and talked to him and he is a normal and a good guy, but when he thinks his ideas are not seen like he imagines it, he goes up the wall like spiderpig.

And insted of normal reasonable conversation where you have an opened minded conversation with a person and their ideas, people start trolling/bashing/reverting to zhu.


TL:DR
What i am trying to say is people should have some level of patience when trying to convey their arguments and try to communicate in a way that is shown in their arguments, that they understand some portion of devs perspective.

My english isn't the best i know, but i tryed to anwser your question why people think some of the critiziem was so called "sweeped" - lack of knowledge on how to communicate inside the boundaries they are in. Yes even if on the internet, you still need to follow some "moral rules" if you want to enjoy the benefits of a particular community.

TL; DR 2
People, goddmanit ... start communicating better and with-in certain logical boundaries. :)

Speaking of the QL forums.. they've been down since friday. What the fuck is this?

One of the biggest weeks this game has had or will ever have and you can't even access support forum if you need to. Good image to show new players, id. Too much negative feedback? Too much traffic(lol)?

When typing this, I thought 'wait, maybe I got banned from forums(for no apparent reason)...' Checked on my phone's LTE. Nope. Not banned. Just down. For going on what is the 5th straight day, now. Yeah.

I posted something to this effect the other day but the ESR admin didn't approve it... take from that what you will.

I'm 95% convinced that I was put on probation at the behest of id anyway.

I don't know anything about that. You do seem to have rustled some jimmies though, lately. Unless I'm thinking of someone else, I guess.

Anyway, it seems pretty odd to not fix the primary form of communication with the player base. For five days..

Oh no, you're right, it's definitely me rustling the jimmies ;>

The other thing is, the Steam Quake Live forum is up and running and it's getting a flogging, so I doubt they'd be concerned with their own forums at the moment...

This? http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdi...&f=281

That's the only one that's listed regarding quake on steam forums. It's had 1 post since 8/13 so that can't be it. What one are you talking about?

edit: or maybe this http://steamcommunity.com/app/282440/discussions/

holy shit reading the posts and comments in that 2nd link is making me sad on the inside

http://steamcommunity.com/app/282440/discussions/

This is directly in the Steam app when you click Discussions in the Quake Live community hub

I feel like you didn't read my post because I literally linked what you did 27 minutes before you did.

I feel like you don't care enough to listen to my words.

I feel like we're drifting apart.

I want a divorce.

Oh... I must have loaded before your edit because it wasn't on there lol, I double checked the link and it was only the first one...

fun thing is, there is so much team combat bullshit that the non-beginner servers are empty because nobody can find them :D

data stats, results, the ballot boxes never lies! :P did you know you can buy added stat booster pack on steam? :P

lets make a thread every time we get 100+ players.

5,800

btw. are there are any plans to buy subscription through steam?

it'll probably fluctuate up / down with a reasonable uptrend for a couple of days. After which it'll do the same process in reverse, only slower. Untill some stable number around the 2.5k will be reached.

It already goes through Steam: http://i.imgur.com/RCv1r9L.png. I'm pretty sure Valve requires it so they can take their cut.

9 dollars for 2 months lol

Worse, that's euros...

I had some Steam wallet left from selling trading cards so I don't care much about it, but it's a fucking ripoff.

cant u use that to, u know, buy 3 201X games on winter sale?

Bah, I already have way too many games and I haven't played 90% of them.

At least I know I'm going to play QL for a couple of weeks until my friends stop playing again.

you can already buy it from Steam
15.5$/1y from Russia :)

the question is, why would any of these new players buy it? id got the people they wanted, still they arent offering anything for them to pay for lol. the business model is so fucking pants on head retarded.

I asked for it because I will vuy it, maybe :P

are you a first time player because of steam and what is the reason you would buy it?

I bought subscription last year, ended this year.

I thought maybe prices will drop when it will hit steam.

i was directed to post this here

Denied?

mhm

new peak it's over 6000

When it's over 9000, that's when we start sacrificing goats.

If it gets over 9000 and they get Sabat to say "It's over 9000" when the game launches, I will:

[list]* rescind all my comments
*eat my hat
*apologise to syncerror
[/list]

Promise.

FFS can an admin clean that up for me, I just assuemd [list] tags would work..

After 9k the game won't be able to start.

they won't let it go that high..
its rigged to burn id headquarters down at 7000

It'll be pretty cool if we get another 6k in the next 24-48 hours...

Christ...

need 3 more beers... right fucking now...

I'd swear I've read this thread already.