and now?

"read to the end"

*scrolls down*

fuck off..

He is black! eh belt. Watch out.



-,-

You are delusional draven. Get out of your basement.

says the guy who kicked me from a clan cause i took 'his' railgun in a TDMPICKUP game =)

haha)

or because you behaved like a dickhead on pickups(eg darthvader, claiming all items) and creating 15 different ql accounts? :) that one action you did on me says much more :)

me? a dickhead? dunno what you're talking about =)

can fully agree to ptolemys bad manners in pickup games. too much steroids got that guy way too easy raged i guess :>

15 diff ql accounts? oh come on. you can only have 2. how could he get away with that many? i can see the developers missing one or two, but 15?

lol

zzz . .

lol, kids today!

"( debtorr ) im not unreliable.... its just your bad, i dont care if iam talking with any1 on private message, or not.. there is no rules. omg"

Draven, you should have perma-ignored him as of this line. "There is no rules". Those fuckwits can't be reasoned with.

tldr version?

epic mindfuck

hahaha

(LLL`draven) are you drunked is insulted

what is this i dont even

draven 2 : 0 you guys

u drunked?

COME TO #DOCTOR AND ILL BAN THE SHIT OUT OF YOU

PREBANNED BITCH

[22:17] * You were kicked from #doctor by Q (Banned.)
-
[22:17] #doctor unable to join channel (address is banned)

U DRUNKED?!

unbanned :(

you have to remove the actual ban as well söteplutten

Wait so is debtor butthurt or is draven butthurt?

Someone please write down what is my opnion on this subject so i can get raged about the people who oppose my opinion

yeah, just keep supporting dicks like him. Good for the community :)

3:0

(LLL`draven) this is a 1on1 , private conversation

let's do this thing

[+] by draven

:DDDDD

lmfao

saga of draven continues

what epic butthurt whine will dreamhack bring us? :D

draven same dickhead as always, nothing new :o

blood

bloodface? blood from his anus!

[22:03] <debtorr> (22:03:27) —› can't join #tdmpickup (you're banned (+b))
[22:03] <debtorr> (22:03:27) —› press (Control+F2) to retry!
[22:03] <debtorr> again


[21:58] * You were kicked by Q (Banned.)
[21:58] * Attempting to rejoin channel #tdmpickup
[21:58] * Unable to join channel (address is banned)


gratz draven =)

now you convinced me ..

so you got banned aswell? what is this bullshit? (from both sides that is)
but leave tdmpickup out of this personal thing

will have a look at the banlist

draven same dickhead as always, nothing new :o

blood

also signed by:
nor

if i was ever in this channel, you can preban me... if i just knew what my auth was.

Cough. :D

cough, nice bump

when i wrote that, it was true!

man i just love these walloftext chatlog threads

Can you return back 5 minutes of my life?

Draven vs. some random Retard

Draven 1:0 Retard

end of discussion...

being a fanboi is pathetic. but being a fanboi of an idiot is just hilarious.

Has nothing to do with being a fanboy, simply finding it hillarous how retarded this random is, I mean searching for a 4th player to go to dreamhack in #tdmpickup?! How dumb is he??? If he really would like to go to dreamhack he (or is you a better word here?) would contact the possible candidates dirrectly.

Yeah and all possible candidates usually idle in #tdmpickup.
Guess who is the retard now ...

( debtorr ) 45 = 66 same

cant take this guy serious

dude, draven just wasn't willing to se the situation from debtorrs' point of view. now that's such a common dick move... unless he did realize what a dick he'd just been, and just decided not to apologize, which is even more of a dick move.

conclusion: he's a dick.

[22:23] <k1ck-eden> i am playing lately
[22:23] <k1ck-eden> League of Legends
[22:24] <k1ck-eden> LOOOOOOL
[22:24] <k1ck-eden> xD
[22:24] <k1ck-eden> dont tell any1 FFS
[22:24] <k1ck-eden> LOL

Breaking the rules.

u are drunked!

Is your mother a whore?

You dont understand Englush do you?

It's just a question!

Have you tried militia?

LOL he is yea, with me. he's a fucking nerd at it. only lvl8 tho LOL

Biggest Q is

Why did Draven talk so long about it .......

Well how should the OP know that it was a secret that Draven is gonna play with Dignitas. It was not like draven asked him to be quiet about it.

Plus, we don't give a shit really.

Truth.

(LLL`draven) do you when you go to work and you talk to someone leak it to everyone else aswell ?
( debtorr ) no
(LLL`draven) point made.
( debtorr ) iam still in school

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Draven acts like a pussy. No need to ban the guy from tdmpickup but I guess some people can't handle "power".
OHHH I acted like a dick for calling you a pussy, I'll prolly get banned Q.Q

wow

must b drunk

fucking insulting!

hey , thats not eden ;) eden is not playing anything at the moment ahahha

LOOL FDP

but i am not the only one who thinks that both acted stupid, right?

No, They both acted like children.

draven is always right


i hope he still plusses me

That other guy might be weird but draven's definitely the one with massive insecurity issues.

Indeed, draven a little more.. not hard to say don't tell anyone, and the whine on ping was retarded.

stupidly? tha'ts not a word

ah yeah stupid is the adverb. thanks grammar nazi

dont bother anything you wants a word no official english dictionary

Who the fuck are you to be correcting grammar, rofl?

you call them both stupid but can't take criticism yourself?

i took your "criticism" and edited my post, you were right.
simply find it funny that you point it out

/tissue

actually: "stupidly" is the adverb, "stupid" the adjective... :p

yes it is

LIES! urban dictionary?

no

obama agrees?

"Obama: Police who arrested professor 'acted stupidly'"
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-07-22/us/harvard...y?_s=PM:US

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/stupid

lol

I read some parts, it feels like draven mostly acted like a little bitch.
The other guy is a good troll, that's all ^_^

I didn't read the whole thing, but how exactly did debtorr act stupid? If a friend tells you something do you automatically assume it's a secret? Especially if it's something mundane. He didn't gossip or anything, he just answered a question.

And anyone who can't keep their secret to themselves but will trust another person with it is an idiot(even if they said it was a secret, which draven did not).

well even without that... spreading it further in the doctors channel after draven told him that he does not want it to be spread is kind of a dick move to start with. also he argues for hours without saying anything new or solving something and i assume that he agreed on releasing these logs (as he shared them with his teammate) and creating public drama like this is only escalating, but well it doesnt sound like you can argue with draven so some of this might be understandable

after draven told him that he does not want it to be spread

where did he say that? :)

( debtorr ) ( 17 : 36 : 31 ) ( debtorr ) 2( 17 : 33 : 30 ) (LLL`draven) ill play with dignitas

pasting finished after ( 6 ) seconds

( debtorr ) on
( debtorr ) #doctor
(LLL`draven) you even spread it into a channel

or did i misunderstand that?

and btw i also doubt that this collection of excerpts from the argument is neutral when one of the involved parties preselects and posts it. this should have been cleared up with a simple "i am sorry, i was not aware that the information was confident".

i didnt cut anything, i pasted the whole data without any manipulation.

yes u r not

its the same old draven as usual ;)

come

#tdmpickup-draven

or U DRUNKED?

tewls • LLL`draven: Im security at DH and will discuss some things with you before you can go iniside, i do not say this in PM since it isnt a secret!

this is he? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94u_qgNnFFA

Lol. Hillarous.

So - some nice young kid who seems to be pretty good as he and his team thrashed Draven and his team, asks Draven nicely if he wants to play with them at DH gets abused and arbitrarily banned from #tdmpickup by Draven the twat because he mentioned to someone that Draven had said he was playing with Dignitas..?

Draven is an obnoxious little idiot and QL could do without him. Can\'t wait to see him lose at DH. In the mean time I\'ll fish out that demo of him getting raped 30 nil or something like that by Cypher on Blood Run - that always brings a smile to my face ;-)

tell us if you find the demo/vod :)

If I were a native english speaker reading this I'd prolly endup in coma after a few lines.

in a coma*

you're excused.

Wow I thought my english was bad, thanks for the ego boost internet! Btw I stopped reading after Draven got butt-hurt, both of them probably are stupid but Draven is clearly the biggest idiot.

I bet he has the taste of his salty tears in his mouth right now.

I love people giving English lessons and being cocky about it when their own English is far from perfect.

Reminds me of some angry Swede that I was calling a bellend or something similar and his reaction was 'don't use words you don't even know what they even means"

I don't get it, if the information is supposed to be a secret, why say it to a person you hardly know?
Also since when is being drunk an insult?

imo draven comes off worse

a quick synopsis
debtorr or wahtever his name is ask draven if draven wants to play with enemy at dreamhack.

draven says no and that he is going to play with dignitas

debtor tells his clans chat channel (naturally so he can tell his team) spartie happens to be idling the channel and reads it pm'ing draven? ( dunno how people found out is never clear)

draven loses his shit like a child that somebody told his (apparently) secret plan to play with dignias out loud and begins to insult debtor

debtor is confused because draven never told him it was a secret he just said im playing with dignitas. they begin to argue and things go derp from there.


its kinda hard to make unified sense of the converstaion after this point. Generally the derp spiral continues with debtor being clueless / bad at english and draven looking like some sort of manchild getting angry over a small mixup and looking like someone you wouldnt ever trust anything important with

imo if anything this usless conversation shows that draven may not be set out to OP anything. you can pm me whatever the hell you want but i wont ban you until you've broken a channel rule. Unless the channel rules are no being "unreliable" ( a claim that is hard to substantiate, and is not substantiated at all by this conversation) then draven was in the wrong regardless of their argument over whether the pm was private or not.

tldr: a retarded conversation and an inapropriate and arbitrary use of mod powers proving draven cannot dissasociate the public or private sphere either

and the most lulzy part which brings us full circle is draven whining at the end that he has been insulted when he began the argument by insulting debtorr proving their similar natures

what you've got here folks is one idiot arguing in the mirror

Edit: i guess the intetion of this post which has conventially kept my boring reading from getting done is to show that a larger distinction needs to be made between the public sphere and the private sphere within the quake community. you can pm me all the retardese you want but i will not ban you from a channel i have ops until you have verifiably broken the channels rules (on purpose of course lol). however ultimately i think this blurred distinction between private and public is one of the larger problems facing quake.

edit2: thanks for the corrections

^ this.

debtorr or wahtever his name is ask draven if draven wants to play with doctors at dreamhack.

no, if draven wants to play with en3my

yeah, cause no one would really want to play with doctors. go in as a straight guy, come out as a gaylord.

hows that a bad thing

that makes me want to play with doctors. where do I sign up?

i was being sarcastic, cant you tell?

i was being sarcastic, cant you tell?

not really.

so you are straight yet want to be gay.

thanks for taking the time to read and write a summary for this nonsense :) plussed !!

is heavily biased though

"what you've got here folks is one idiot arguing in the mirror"

pretty much the best 1-sentence summary.

Thanks for the analysis. My laziness doesn't permit me to break into the semantics in the late night, it seems.

At first i wanna thank draven for unbanning us.
Secondly " nude-fox " you added a very good content here.

Please blame me for being a "drunked dick" to post this shit and to steal alot of people their time. This log was a perfect example of everydays respect between some players.
It was my idea to post it so everyone should blame me about the troubles it may have caused for some people. At least dont blame debtor, he didnt do anything except giving me his log after i asked for it.

best regards jilted

i feel sorry for draven, that was a dick move on your part. You better hope he isn't very smart otherwise you could get in a lot of trouble for that.

don't worry.

u dont need to feel bad. nothing wrong u posted this. i bet he feels like idiot now that ppl have seen the shit he writes cuz he knows he was wrong. its he that should apologize for being a dick to u guys but i guess his ego wouldnt survive it.

lol ... he doesn't feel bad

this thread is hilarious

way to pussy out

yea u are right

but the other guy was out of line too. He asked him, if he was drunk and later on, he even called draven's mother a whore:

( debtorr ) maybe your mom is whore
( debtorr ) my istn
( debtorr ) isnt

lol what

(LLL`draven) Is your mother a whore?
( debtorr ) are you girl ? are you boy ? are you stupid ? do u like green color ? are you from germany ? are you drunked ?
(LLL`draven) Are you still a virgin?
( debtorr ) its not normal ?
( debtorr ) its some kind of space language ?
(LLL`draven) are you drunked is insulted
(LLL`draven) are you girl ? is also
( debtorr ) why are u talking about my mom ?

lol what

(LLL`draven) its like saying
(LLL`draven) Is your mother a whore?

you forgot one line :P

You pretend to not understand or u don't want to?

(LLL`draven) its like saying
(LLL`draven) Is your mother a whore?

( debtorr ) why are u talking about my mom ?
(LLL`draven) the rest aint.
(LLL`draven) [19:07:22] [LLL`draven] its like saying
(LLL`draven) clueless?
( debtorr ) maybe your mom is whore
( debtorr ) my istn
( debtorr ) isnt


why are u talking about my mom ?

debtorr is not that stupid to not understand the "its like saying". He then tries to use it for trolling and insulting draven. It is fucking obvious for someone with average IQ (doesn't even need a genious or something). It takes me less than a millisecond to understand such stupid, childish, cheap attemtps. You either pretend to be dumb or hate makes you?

Hate on draven, but debtorr doesn't look like an innocent angel either.

so draven acts stupid for no reason, as summarized here. the guy, with a really bad understanding of english, asks him if he's drunk, cause he fails to understand what the problem is. he may or may not have been serious here, but it makes no difference. later on, draven says that it's like saying is your mother a whore.

debtorr is not that stupid to not understand the "its like saying".

you obviously are extremely stupid for thinking it's the same.

so indepther, i'm maybe drunk, but is your mother a whore?

no is not, but is urs?

I have no problem if you say it like draven did:
Indepther, its like saying: "Is your mother a whore?"

If you change it, of course you can make it insulting.

what? you fail at reading too.

THERE'S A FUCKING HIDE TAG YOU KNOW

YES BUT HE COULDN'T FIND IT

best part about this whole thing ->

(LLL`draven) Dont have had English lessons on school ?
(LLL`draven) You dont understand word i just word do you?

He was Drunkeh

lol

While very good...I think your wrong, clock!.....

Personally, i'm gonna go with...

(LLL`draven) Dont have had English lessons on school ?

Crazy thread btw.

but that's what cl0ck quoted, wtf is wrong with you?

It was late :(((((((((((((((((((((((((

FAIL.

you're

damn you :p

lol. :D

This thread is beautiful.

ahahahah this shit's hilarious.

Some of the quotes from that chat are just awesome.


oh lawd..

Seriously...

I once made the same mistake of banning someone from #q3pickup over some slightly worse but equally annoying shit, it also had nothing to do with the #q3pickup channel and i only ended up regretting it afterwards.

Debtor hasn't done anything wrong and before you split the #tdmpickup channel right down the middle remove it for the sake of everyone, if you keep on the route your going (ptolemy included even though granted he is a pleb) they will end up spawning another and before you know it nobody will get a game.

Remove the ban(s) and get a grip on your emotions.

draven is a bit of a fkn tool, but then again i called nukm a cunt 2 months ago and i'm still banned from pickup xD

you were banned for 3 days lol (i think even less as someone asked me to move it earlier and i did)
and banning you had nothing to do with what you called me, although it certainly is telling
also why this post if you cant get into tdmpickup although you should be again? you should contact the admin that benned you and if that doesnt help, ask some other admin. dont get it

edit: there was a ban for *!*@zachem.users.quakenet.org that i cannot relate to someone. was that you?

i'm lukej :)

NERDS.

.

draven stick ur ego up ur ass.

u drunked?

i'm lil bit drunk with all of this chat tbh

funny:D

let her go;)

Serious businezzzzzzzzzz

Draven is high on testosteron, he should get a girlfriend. Btw how retarded is to chitchat about such a bullshit for hours. Both guys are weirdos, really nothing better to do. :(

what are you 12? why do you care if he has a girlfriend or not?

You dont understand word he just word do you?

:DD

Guess you have the same issue.

DreamHack IRL Duel Cup

why has he told about dignitas if that's such a secret? assuming he doesnt know debtor at all. And why would someone hide their team anyway

and ping whine is absolutely hilarious for me being russian

gays

SOMEONE SENT ME TEXT MESSAGE BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU ABOUT IT BECAUSE IS ---------PRIVATE-----------

JOIN #tdmpickup AND TELL US ALL ABOUT IT. ITS OK!

ER DU DRUNKED?

IS drunken even a word?

And why does Draven look like this lama?

[img1]http://www.esreality.com/files/inlineimages/2011/80859-draven.gif[img1]

/

This is hilariously quotable.

(LLL`draven) Dont have had English lessons on school ?
(LLL`draven) You dont understand word i just word do you?

tl;dr : if Draven wasn't drunked he's a dick

Pretty much.
Making fun of hilarious spelling and grammar is nice and all (though this log was fucking Shakespeare for us on the Excessive Plus boards back in the day :D) but (deliberately) misunderstanding and using it against people with poor english (as long as they're trying, at least) to win arguments is weak as hell.

(LLL`draven) its not called pm for a reason :)
It's not called PM at all in my IRC, at least. When I click someone's name it says "query"; the written command is just /msg ...

Implying that they are to be treated as confidential at all times is laughable.

Should never have resulted in a ban from an unrelated channel like that either, that was complete abuse by someone who "dont even play pickups".

What the fuck ever at the massive "you have insulted my honor by implying I might be drunk just because I'm acting like a tool (and already talking down to you calling you 'a little unreliable person'" bullshit. lolz rhethoricz

-edit-
(LLL`draven) you know im going to dh heh?
( debtorr ) so ?
(LLL`draven) stop getting smart.

No comment on this yet? Thinly veiled. :P

online threats are serious business

he has a black belt, yo.

A black belt in what tho? Emo-Do (the way of the drama queen)?

black belt in this:

TKD, afaik.

Make that acronym into what you will :P

Not like draven isn't known for physically threatening people online, his "I have a black belt" antics are legendary.

leave draven alone, leave him alone!

#tdmpickup-draven

U're welcome !!


Glied_Doris

this is so good, now i can start my day.

this was good. 8/10

( debtorr ) maybe your mom is whore
( debtorr ) my istn
( debtorr ) isnt

best part ^^


draven lost, confused guy wins.

Just because it's a PM doesn't mean it is meant to be kept secret.

If Draven wanted to keep it a secret he should have specified it.

Debtor should not have been banned.

Debtor should not have bothered Draven so much about it.

"Are you drunked?" is not a serious insult by any means. Draven being offended by this indicates that he is a narcissistic megalomaniac.

Both appear to have choppy english.

(LLL`draven) You dont know the respect and the common sense of a private conversation.

Whats wrong with this?

Anyway, banning debtorr from #tdmpickup is wrong. Even though draven is admin there, that chan isn't about draven but about the tdm community.

(LLL`draven) dude
(LLL`draven) you know im going to dh heh?
( debtorr ) so ?
(LLL`draven) stop getting smart.
( debtorr ) :D
( debtorr ) iam just aking u
(LLL`draven) no
(LLL`draven) your acting like fucking dick

once that was said i would be chuckin a few flying headbutts out

LOL I HEAR DEB IS PISSED AND IS GONNA STAB DRAVEN IN AT DH??

WATCH UR BACK SON

i hear he's been planning it for 7 months..

You're moyther oat whore!!!

draven is a nice guy dunno what your problem is. talked to him at the airport a few times.

it's the skin colour

racist.

Read the post u idiot - does that sound like a nice guy? If it writes like a twat and acts like a twat - its probably a twat... Just try telling anyone what you talked about at the airport (such conversations are afterall known to have implicit privacy rules binding them) and he'll probably go all emo on you too... So long as you're just a young kid so he feels he can get away with it...

the funniest part of this is that draven actually got asked to play tdm for a team.

dont get why draven is being a dick...ive intereviewed people in pm...does that mean i shouldnt share the answers since theyre from something with 'private' in the name?

a pm is similar to a normal 1-to-1 conversation...if that person says they 'got a first in their coursework' for example does that mean you cant tell others about it? no because its just some gossip/news and the person hasnt specifically said 'keep this to yourself but...' etc

unban him & stop being a twat

they are unbanned since late last night, topic starter should probably remove his post :p

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is one of the best threads everrrrrrrrrrr ;-)

(LLL`draven) i thought we had a private conversation
(LLL`draven) its not called pm for a reason :)

lost me there

it's not called public message for a reason, makes perfect sense

At first I was just like "gay hadn't seen this" then I read the comments and it looks like the best shit has been pasted there anyway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OUdq8L0lYU

its called private chat because its where two people talk without alot of others being there to, not because its where you talk about secrets, how retarded would that be?

http://www.youtube.com/embed/yR0lWICH3rY

\:D/

where'd the log go?

It is drunked

i have it if you want it

draven obviously meant drunken boxing, you are all wrong.


damn I missed out on some serious/hillarious drama :/

srsly get a doctor!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7RgN9ijwE4

At Liam's 1st Birthday party.

:D

and then on lan -> group hugs and love