well they are discontinued now. i used one for a while.
great shape, bad sensor though unless you use a high sens.

lame, and http://wikis.jp/interfacedevice/index.php?MaximumSpeed_en was showing the g3 had a good sensor. what kind of pad? maybe the sensor changed?

rofl, the MX518 was sold as "G3 Optical" in Japan at some time ;)

Honestly, I think the sensor was fine. I used to play on a super low sens, and use that mouse. My only issue was that if a hair or spec of dust got under the laser, it would fuck it up bad, so you had to call a timeout and fix it.

Other then that, I loved it.

I used it for a while with a razer goliathus and 14cm/360. Didn't skip once.

You use fast sensitivity; no mouse will skip at that speed.

Are you surprised?

No, im just confirming.

It's Laser...

You know, some people play games that don't have 30cm/360 sensitivity as a prerequisite for being good.

So what, why buy a mouse that you know skips? Personal preference I guess, but I'd rather be safe and spend the least amount of money.

Big Nose. :P

hahaha

Well some people won't ever play with a low enough sensitivity for the mouse to present a problem. For instance I would buy that mouse if I could afford it cause I love it's shape.

every mouse skips. it's just a matter of speed ;)

Bad sensor that skips on most surfaces if you use low/mid sensitivity. It often skips whenever i flick my wrist to do a fast turn.

The side buttons are also awkwardly placed if you use a fingertip grip. Avoid this mouse like the plague.

It worked fine for me. the last mouse to use the old logitech pilot shape :/

i know, ive still got a pilot ball mouse somewhere, best shape ever :(

The diamondback/copperhead is the closest thing ive had to it!

lol @ mice which can't track, how can a product fail at basically the only thing required of it?

You're fail because you know nothing about what goes into engineering mice, quality control, etc. Did I mention other people have posted here saying theirs tracks fine?

Embarrassing

You know cell phone companies are supposed to have signal where they say they do, yet none of them do 100% of the time either. Maybe we should all just switch back to a landline.

Not even close to a solid comparison when you consider the mouse with the best performance of all time is an mx300 which came out in ~2002.

None of the additional features of a newer mouse are close to the upgrade from a landline to a cell phone.

An accurate comparison would be if all the new mobile phones had no signal whatsoever 60%+ of the time yet the generation before had one 95%+. In which case yes using the previous generation is the solution and lol @ the failure of the new generation.

No doubt that's all gone over your head though.

http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx49/extaleR/various51.jpg
:D

dick = rock hard

I'm still currently using one and I love it. I'm using it on an Allsop Raindrop XL @ 24cm/360. No issues with tracking.

interesting... i have pretty similar settings and use the allsop pad (had it for years).

what if you do a really fast 360, can you make it skip? the wmo (400 dpi) will skip at say, sens 3 or 4 and a fast 360.

It's because you're using a med to fast sensitivity, which the mouse is suitable for.

Try using a low sensitivity and flick the mouse as fast as you can - it will skip.

I know it can skip and I've moved the mouse fast enough to skip it on purpose. However due to my play style and how fast I move the mouse in that respect I never run into a situation where it does skip.

and that's all that should matter for you :)

some people should accept that not everyone uses a sens lower than 30cm/360 and so not every mouse which fails at that sensitivitys is total garbage

hell, the so praised IMOs, WMOs and IMEs aren't performance monsters either

Indeed. I've always said that. If it doesn't skip for me under normal circumstances, then what the hell do I care? If I decide to lower my sens and this mouse no longer becomes sufficient, then I suppose I'll go looking for another mouse. Until then, I'll keep on keepin on.

You shouldn't care if the mouse is perfectly fine for you. Just don't say you have no issues with it tracking if you admit you've gotten it to skip, lol.

I've gotten it to skip moving it WAY FASTER THAN I EVER WOULD EVEN DREAM OF IN GAME. Technically all mice are capable of skipping, its just a matter of what the threshold is. If I never reach that threshold on my mousepad and playing style, then what the hell do I care? It works for what I want it to do. Again, not everyone needs to move the mouse that fast.

don't just blindly assume that one has to meet some arbitrary threshold in order to get it to skip, such as saying it only applies to those who use ~30cm/360. I use low sens + accel in QL/Q3, and the mouse would consistently skip for me.

that's how it usually works, as long as a mouse works on a particular surface as it is supposed there is a certain perfect control and malfuction speed, as long as you don't hit that speed, based on your sensitivity and "playing style" you should be fine

but ofc a mouse can have some really weird behavior on a particular mousepad

I wan't that shape with a great sensor. are you logitech guys still reading esr?

even if they do they don't seem to care about such niche markets

I know I know.

dpi and flashy shitty features sell gaming mice. not quality.

Its just a shame that they can't just keep making a decent, low cost solution in the pilot/mx300 shape like they've done for the mx5xx series for years. I can't imagine that it would be THAT big a loss.

dunno why they scrapped the mx300 in the first place. it was an awesome mouse! can't have been expensive to manufacture either.

Agreed. The only thing we have that's small from Logitech now is the G9x. Solid sensor and its nice and small, but I'll be damned if I spend an entire $100 on a mouse with an off centered sensor. Granted I could just suck it up and get used to it, but why grind through an entire month of readjusting when I could just use something from Razer like the Salmosa or the Abyssys? Sure their quality control sucks, but eventually I would find a usable unit that'll last for a while.

I think a real successor of the G3 or MX300 would sell but far not as much as Logitech is used to.
In other words they would earn some money but not as much as with a G5xx.
Pretty sad cause there isn't much wrong with the Logitech gaming mice from an "objective" point of view.

I've got one, I use a mid sensitivity on a super mat, it's lovely, I especially like the material they used where you grip the mouse.

mine lost his feet :( ... anyone knows if i can glue it or can i buy new ones somewhere?

ask logitech about it. they might send you free mouse feet.

Go get some Hyperglides. You can thank me later.