the project is obviously on halt until rage gets out. they put effort in before qcon and now it's hiatus.

makes sense to me.

yeah.. :( really a shame though

They really have something in their hands but currently It doesn't look QL will ever get to it's real potential....

I never played rage but I already hate it

raged

I never played rage but I already hate it

I never played rage but I already love it

potatoes

koOma never ate potatoes but he already loves them.

koOma is not amused, peasant.

koOma never ate peasants, but loves them long time.

DANCE PEASANTS! DANCE!! COME HERE YOU SLUT, PLEASE YOUR KING.

koOma never ate male peasants, but loves them long time.

koOma is not amused.

:)

Becks is amused.

Fail

H-A-R-M doesn't seem to be amused.

Qlive was doomed from the moment it started. Think about it, even if it was a huge success, which brought in massive numbers, do you think id would really want that to go on for any length of time? You have Rage, what a year out now? And Doom 4 maybe 2 or 3 years out at this point? There's no way they want hype or attention taken away from either of those games. So I never saw qlive having any kind of substantial lifespan.

At this point it feels like they've turned it over to someone (or people) that have never coded or developed anything in their life. Which is why for the past month or two we get nothing but these piddly updates. Yes, we absolutely need 20 different options for cvars like cg_screendamage[_self/_team], cg_crosshairhitstyle, cg_hitbeep, cg_speedometer, etc. While things like the netcode (well as from what Sync says, it's not a netcode problem, but something with their xerp code), crappy sound system, a LG that's been nerfed in a way that makes no sense, old maps and no current way of introducing new ones, and a list of other things are still issues.

It's been 2 months now since Syncerror said they were getting started on the hitbox/netcode issue (right after qcon) and not a single word about that. I'm not a programmer so I have to ask, is programming for a game really that hard or what?

I could go on, but I'll leave it at that.

do u think the netcode is that bad after seeing this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbf1FUgTZns

I'm not judging. It's hard for me to because my connection is shit and warpy :)

I apologize as I shouldn't have used the word netcode, when I meant xerp. But from reading the forums for a little while now, it seems some get almost offended at the term xerp. :P

For the situation that video is trying to show, it does a decent job. But if I recall correctly, the problem isn't that the hitboxes are permanently trailing the model at a fixed distance, instead the distance between the hitbox and player model increase as that player's speed increases.

I bet you are from the ql forum... every noob in the ql forums takes this video as an excuse for the netcode/xerp issue.

Watch this video which was taken by a video camera (so the demo issue can be ignored):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhcs_iEpk6E

from the ql forum? wtf is that even meant to mean?
sure that video makes it look shit, but i was never denying there was a problem in the first place.

who the fuck are u to be calling someone a noob anyway :)

noob

noob

don't they have arquon who did the cpm netcode?

they do, and still there weren't any changes at all...

or they made changes and just didn't tell, to see if anyone actually notices :P

sometime I got the same thought but then I watch the ping of my opponent which explains a lot...

never had that thought, ingame.

I just wrote what I would do if I had new netcode, that is noticeably different and wanted to try it.

If you make it known from the start you are almost certain you will get whine, at least with this community. It will just be even worse if it actually is buggy. But I doubt you will get any sizeable positive feedback!

But if you don't make it known, people will "test" it more openmindedly. If whine goes up that the old solution was better, and you can see which players actually know enough to notice the change. If whine becomes less you are on the right path.
If whine stays about the same and even uses the exact same arguments, possibly even videos from month earlier, you know that those whiners are ignorant fucktards who can safely be ignored.



Well, that's what I would do. But of course it might turn out to become a PR disaster and I don't care much about avoiding those :P

I'd do that with all aspects of the game.

"Let's see if those nubs find out the lg does 5/5/9 now :P"

probably because most of the last dev blog is still open

Has somebody said something about new maps?

that hud tilts me

that's probably the most ugliestestest HUD I've seen :O

/e: on a second thought: I think it's not that ugly, but together with that gfx cfg it really is :P

No community whine in over one week hour.

dunno what you are talking about but I proudly disagree

I do agree that the biggest problem right now is lack of a line of communication. If this continues for a longer period people will start leaving the community and Quake Live along with SyncError and the rest of his staff will have no jobs.

It feels like the Quake Live project doesn't have any means of generating revenue for their company and as such has been financially bottlenecked.

Are all their plans done as of now?

No you say? whats the fucking problem then

There will always be place for improvement. Yet as its now, im really enjoying it, so i will focus on that part and be grateful each time id fixes/add something for this free game. Quakelive is here to stay, servers are popping everywhere, tournaments and big $$$ events, with or without whining.

Updated this post to account for it being 10 months now instead of 5.

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