ESR - Poland -vs- United Kingdom

<< Comment #1 @ 22:54 UTC, 3 April 2008 >>

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Bob

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Edited by Bob at 21:58 UTC, 27 June 2024

<< Comment #2 @ 23:26 UTC, 3 April 2008 >>

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micke

LMAO@PO.... UK??!?

<< Comment #3 @ 01:09 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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butcher_kgp

286 frags on dm7 !!!!

<< Comment #4 @ 01:32 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #3

watch austria vs pol b, 349 frags for at, tho l1nk was playing instead of real vigo :p

<< Comment #5 @ 03:04 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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knallebumm - Reply to #4

dm6 was uploaded two times and someone plz fix it
but nice story

<< Comment #31 @ 13:16 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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fjorgyn - Reply to #5

the demo contains both maps

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<< Comment #19 @ 11:40 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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brz - Reply to #4

linkin played as vig

who the fuck is vigo?

<< Comment #21 @ 11:54 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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JCK - Reply to #19

oldskul .at player :X - http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=174355

<< Comment #24 @ 12:33 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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brz - Reply to #21

yeh i know :p

his name is vig though & not 'vigo'

Edited by Dashboard at 12:33 UTC, 4 April 2008

<< Comment #28 @ 12:41 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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JCK - Reply to #24

even though nice target for fake :)), commercial theatre must live \o/

<< Comment #32 @ 13:34 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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brz - Reply to #28

the only way to combat cheating pole xerps

<< Comment #33 @ 13:41 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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JCK - Reply to #32

in my opinion Henry da hoover(polesucker) is best secret weapon vs them :D

<< Comment #34 @ 13:46 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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brz - Reply to #33

poles use henry to clean my house

<< Comment #35 @ 13:50 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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JCK - Reply to #34

only for clean ? ... strange :X

<< Comment #38 @ 14:22 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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brz - Reply to #35

i order them to clean in my nazi uniform and then i throw mein kampf at the them and make them eat my shit

<< Comment #41 @ 14:29 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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JCK - Reply to #38

muhoho mate ... wplayed, Henry must be in shock, better throw linkin on them next time :DD

<< Comment #53 @ 17:13 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #38

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formul...649197.ece

Your dad?

:D

<< Comment #144 @ 12:52 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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brz - Reply to #53

way2ez

<< Comment #164 @ 15:20 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #144

true.

<< Comment #152 @ 14:11 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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mov9k - Reply to #32

v3rb doesnt use xerp if you're talking about him... check his LAN demos, his aim is even better then this.

<< Comment #160 @ 14:27 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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brz - Reply to #152

x3rpalizah

<< Comment #163 @ 15:13 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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mov9k - Reply to #160

I know that you're just jealous... But I got used to - ppl like you ;-)

<< Comment #170 @ 18:51 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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brz - Reply to #163

poles take q3 way too seriously

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<< Comment #171 @ 19:17 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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mov9k - Reply to #170

Haha, and who's talking this?:D That's you, who's taking q3 too seriously whining everwyhere you can... eot

<< Comment #196 @ 06:40 UTC, 8 April 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #171

go motherland

<< Comment #200 @ 08:40 UTC, 9 April 2008 >>

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mov9k - Reply to #196

fu?

<< Comment #205 @ 21:17 UTC, 9 April 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #200

lmao raged

<< Comment #206 @ 13:07 UTC, 10 April 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #205

you're funny.

<< Comment #6 @ 06:46 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Aaron

watch verb on ospdm5

magic!

<< Comment #7 @ 07:09 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #6

ok now im getting worried about you... you ok? :P bang on the head or something? xx

<< Comment #8 @ 07:13 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #7

plz

only dislike the polish idiots :(

i'll be raging next week while they're redoing the central heating in the house :(

<< Comment #9 @ 07:14 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Nicky - Reply to #8

*phew* i was thinking your account had been taken over there for a min

<< Comment #13 @ 10:12 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Anonymous (p5B171828.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) - Reply to #6

Thanks for the tip, watching verb's pov is definitly amazing!

<< Comment #52 @ 17:00 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #6

I'd rather say watch zik!

<< Comment #66 @ 17:47 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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retire - Reply to #6

maybe watch someone who doesn't need xerp, more impressive for me ;)

<< Comment #70 @ 17:49 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #66

lol, verb had awesome aim in OSP too.

<< Comment #79 @ 18:22 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #66

you actually have no idea if any of them players are using xerp apart from paranoia

get this into your head you stupid fucking dolt THEY AIM THE EXACT FUCKING SAME regardless of xerp

GET IT?!?!

<< Comment #80 @ 18:44 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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retire - Reply to #79

all you do is bark like a dog

fact is that these stats were never seen in q3 until CPMA and there's no way you can argue that point, xerp/laghax/whatever is making ppl aimbots and q3 isnt about config wars

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<< Comment #81 @ 18:48 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #80

How thick can one be?

Config wars, xD, xerp has been in cpma for ages.

*ganja edit*

go play q4, no xerp there!

Edited by sleipnir at 18:48 UTC, 4 April 2008

<< Comment #86 @ 19:08 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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retire - Reply to #81

You're the thick one, if you read what i said properly u wouldnt have made that comment. "these accuracies haven't been seen [/u]until CPMA[/u]

<< Comment #95 @ 19:39 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #86

You're still thick.

Does cpma aim for these people?

<< Comment #199 @ 16:32 UTC, 8 April 2008 >>

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sarac - Reply to #95

yes it does, in part

<< Comment #105 @ 21:48 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #86

cpma's much better netcode makes that, not xerp (as who aaron's was replying to said)

<< Comment #116 @ 09:17 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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dickobrazz - Reply to #105

have u ever seen 48% MG on LAN before? i thing 35+ was realy good.. same for LG... i remember ic-BELTH had 35%LG in CPL final's longer time ago.. i thing it was cpm4 and that was crazy number... so answer is yes.. cpma somehow does aim for you..

Edited by dickobrazz at 09:18 UTC, 5 April 2008

<< Comment #118 @ 10:06 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #116

have you seen q3 tdm on lan recently anyway?!

no

so shut up

<< Comment #120 @ 10:09 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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dickobrazz - Reply to #118

dont care about tdm or duel or whatever.. show me lan demo with 48% MG.. dont have?? so shut up..

<< Comment #123 @ 10:12 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #120

lan is different, like any of these players truely care if they win or not online compared to lan, the fact is tdm in cpma has not been played on lan, so you have no arguement. plz shut up.

35 lg might of been a good number back then, but now with an improved netcode, 45 lg is a good number, things change, this is not 2000, this is 2008. cpma is used now and not osp so get over it.

*edit*
oh and also its common knowledge everyone usually has better mg and lg stats in tdm because they dont spam it as much (usually anyway)... especially in the case of dm7

Edited by nVc at 10:18 UTC, 5 April 2008

<< Comment #128 @ 11:12 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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dickobrazz - Reply to #123

u dont get it man.. realy.. never ever before u see such accuracy with weapon which has bullet spread (MG)... not even CLOSE to 48%... then your *edit* and dm7 stuff and better MG/LG aim - man u felt from moon yesterday? u probably talk about some else dm7, because what i saw last 8 years on dm7 was RA rush with MG's spamming it across group of enemies at long distance... isn't something u could get 48% MG..

if u dont noticed any HUGE aim improvement across the scene after switching to CPMA then sry but u are blind or u dont want to see it cause u use xerp yourself and u like it.. or perhaps u dont even play... arguing thats cause of better netcode is SILLY because i dont believe that avarage players today with CPMA are much better aiming than toxic @ osp @ 2 years ago..

get yourself together man.. stop arguing for leaving xerp in game.. this is my last comment to this shit...

Edited by dickobrazz at 11:13 UTC, 5 April 2008

<< Comment #131 @ 11:40 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #128

i do notice

"35 lg might of been a good number back then, but now with an improved netcode, 45 lg is a good number, things change, this is not 2000, this is 2008. cpma is used now and not osp so get over it."

its better netcode, simple as.

<< Comment #181 @ 02:07 UTC, 6 April 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #128

so if it's all xerp and cpma aims for you, how come not everybody that uses xerp get's +40% mg, smart ass?

<< Comment #184 @ 03:49 UTC, 7 April 2008 >>

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linoleuM - Reply to #181

he's not saying you don't need good aim to start with... come on now

<< Comment #189 @ 15:33 UTC, 7 April 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #184

I didn't say he said that too

<< Comment #188 @ 10:22 UTC, 7 April 2008 >>

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dickobrazz - Reply to #181

ok.. its all netcode.... finaly got it clear.. all the xerp whine was missunderstanding.. cause xerp does nothing..

Edited by dickobrazz at 16:51 UTC, 7 April 2008

<< Comment #190 @ 15:35 UTC, 7 April 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #188

/care

<< Comment #191 @ 16:53 UTC, 7 April 2008 >>

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dickobrazz - Reply to #190

so there is no shame for me now to turn on xerp y? :) cause the +% on MG/LG is cause of netcode.. good :)

<< Comment #192 @ 17:21 UTC, 7 April 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #191

No, but because it's not "illegal" and people use it.

And there's no shame in using xerp anyway...

<< Comment #194 @ 22:04 UTC, 7 April 2008 >>

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dickobrazz - Reply to #192

ur funny.. ^^

<< Comment #182 @ 08:43 UTC, 6 April 2008 >>

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mkeiy - Reply to #116

I've seen clan mates hit 40% LG on lan using OSP before.

<< Comment #82 @ 18:50 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #80

It's not making them aimbots, it's just responding to what they already did more accurately.

<< Comment #87 @ 19:08 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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retire - Reply to #82

So why do shots register as hits when on the screen your shot clearly missed

<< Comment #88 @ 19:09 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #87

Erm, you really shouldn't trust the rail trail, it was coded for ids netcode not arQons.

If you played without the rail trail I bet you wouldn't notice any hits being hit when they shouldn't.

Edited by ini at 19:16 UTC, 4 April 2008

<< Comment #93 @ 19:21 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #87

see you're asking these kind of questions when they have been answered time and time and time and time and time and time again

<< Comment #111 @ 23:13 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #87

real naab, go back 2 threewave k, fail @ arguing

<< Comment #84 @ 18:56 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #80

i have explained myself a countless amount of times and so have lots of other people

just because you're too fucking stupid to get it doesn't mean I'm barking like a dog you moron.

Edited by Aaron at 19:00 UTC, 4 April 2008

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<< Comment #89 @ 19:10 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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retire - Reply to #84

Constant insults and aggression just show that you aren't sure about your "explanations".

Anyway, I'm not posting anymore on this subject with such idiots ;)

<< Comment #91 @ 19:16 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #89

go find my other threads, I have explained myself plenty of times with no insults at all.

I am insulting because now you seem to be taking notice, sadly you're still too fucking stupid (harhar) to get it.

Why are we idiots? for not agreeing with you and presenting arguments? Nice Jamerio mentality!

I actually made 4 comments in the other thread, and you only replied to one. I made a reply to that without any insults (oh sorry I called you stupid because you are) and valid arguments and you couldn't answer.

<< Comment #94 @ 19:37 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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sonic - Reply to #91

why so serious?

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<< Comment #98 @ 20:13 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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wrl - Reply to #94

probably all he's got.

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<< Comment #174 @ 21:24 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #98

you're a fucking muppet as well

<< Comment #175 @ 21:27 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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wrl - Reply to #174

rage > words, "innit".

<< Comment #129 @ 11:19 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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deotrip - Reply to #94

omg cant wait!!!!!!!!!

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<< Comment #140 @ 12:24 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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sonic - Reply to #129

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<< Comment #119 @ 10:07 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #91

he played q4 and thought its netcode was good, end of story aaron

<< Comment #172 @ 20:24 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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retire - Reply to #119

i never said this, why do you need to make up lies?

edit: in fact i'm sure ppl can quote me of saying: 'q4 is unplayable over 25ms'

Edited by diabz at 20:52 UTC, 5 April 2008

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Anonymous (user-54465c0c.lns3-c12.dsl.pol.co.uk) - Reply to #172

Yea, people can also quote you, "stop fucking camping dor".

<< Comment #177 @ 23:27 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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retire - Reply to #176

i've never said that either afaik

last time i played you was in Q4 1 or 2 years ago, so digging pretty deep to find that if i did say it :s

<< Comment #180 @ 00:35 UTC, 6 April 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #172

i was just guessing since you played alot of q4ctf :p

Edited by nVc at 00:35 UTC, 6 April 2008

<< Comment #154 @ 14:14 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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mov9k - Reply to #66

as I said earlier - v3rb doesnt use xerp.

<< Comment #10 @ 09:16 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity

v3rb 46 % mg on 1st map, 48% on 2nd map.
Xerped.
Seriously, where are we going to ?

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<< Comment #11 @ 10:01 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #10

Haha yeah, good thing q3 wasn't aim-oriented before xerp... oh wait. :(

<< Comment #14 @ 10:22 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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impulseBE - Reply to #11

xerp made hitscan even worse than it already was

Edited by impulseGUNK at 10:23 UTC, 4 April 2008

<< Comment #15 @ 10:27 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #14

yeah, sucks to hit where you aim innit. vq3 has major flaws. get over it.

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<< Comment #23 @ 12:30 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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impulseBE - Reply to #15

ahye, kcuss ot thi hweer uyo mia tnnii. q3v sha oramj slafw. tge reov ti.

would have made more sense

<< Comment #25 @ 12:34 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #23

i hope you know a website which automatically does that for you. :)

<< Comment #27 @ 12:38 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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impulseBE - Reply to #25

the same where you get your standard replies from

<< Comment #29 @ 12:41 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #27

dun geddit. :(

<< Comment #45 @ 15:27 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Superman - Reply to #15

If a weapon is very powerful, it should be hard to aim (or hit) with. Removing xerp might not be a good solution (or even a solution at all it seems if you listen to the CPM crowd?). But it seems to me that the weapon should be either be nerfed damage wise, or just harder to hit with if its too dominant in the communitys eyes.
Maybe this is the case in CQ3 though? I havent played CQ3 yet so I cant say.

<< Comment #103 @ 21:16 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #14

Kind of exactly my point

<< Comment #12 @ 10:06 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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amt - Reply to #10

dans ton cul.

<< Comment #18 @ 11:38 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Anonymous (213.101.208.201) - Reply to #10

wtf is xerp?

<< Comment #16 @ 10:58 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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zik - Reply to #10

verb also on osp had that aim percentage in most of his matches

<< Comment #36 @ 13:56 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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puritan ' - Reply to #10

So what? His aim is great, should he hit less than the rest just because his ping is worse? Sounds like osp.
Damn hypocrites.

<< Comment #37 @ 14:14 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #36

Oh, don't worry, if everyone xerped, no matter the ping, everyone would also hit 45 % lg, and v3rb would remain a nobody

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becks - Reply to #37

lol

<< Comment #40 @ 14:28 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #37

If everyone xerped and nobody cried
If everyone loved and nobody lied
If everyone shared and swallowed their pride
Then we'd see the day when nobody died

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<< Comment #43 @ 15:19 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #37

lol?

Actually a lot of people (tbh almost everyone who knows this cvar) xerps nowdays, but still they can't aim so accurate. He's just good aimer, and always has been like that (in osp as well). Just face it.

xerp is not a cheat, use it if you like.

Edited by mefajpE^ at 15:20 UTC, 4 April 2008

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uniiity - Reply to #43

I'm not saying that v3rb is a newb ; he's good but xerp just makes him a LOT better.

<< Comment #50 @ 16:27 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #49

Agree on that.

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ini - Reply to #49

Terminology is the key here I think.

It doesn't MAKE him BETTER it allows him to reach his potential (despite his ping)

<< Comment #62 @ 17:44 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #55

Exacto.

It's so wrong that e.g the eastern European countries can compete on equal grounds.

Oh the horror the horror.

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<< Comment #166 @ 15:58 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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ix - Reply to #62

Cos our precious LPB Swe nation will no longer dominate.

<< Comment #167 @ 16:23 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #166

I'd say that the most vocal group are the central European osp blowhards.

<< Comment #54 @ 17:15 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #37

What stops you from xerping?

You never used timenudge /w osp?

<< Comment #56 @ 17:16 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #54

They just like to pretend they don't use xerp so that they feel superior to be honest.

I mean, miel players are hardly trustworthy.

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<< Comment #59 @ 17:43 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #56

We don't use it, as it makes the game imbalanced.
I don't see the link with miel team, believe us or not, we don't really care. I'll patiently wait to see with my own eyes these unknown, but decent players, hit 48 % mg on LAN.

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ini - Reply to #59

Oh, so you don't use it because you feel it imbalances the game and want to put yourself at a disadvantage, right.

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uniiity - Reply to #68

I don't like being disadvantaged. I want that game to be "normal", or what it has been for years before CPMA came. I want that cvar disabled, I want everyone to be equal and play with fair net settings.

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ini - Reply to #72

That's the thing though, the net settings ARE fair (That's why lots of Eastern Euros can play well now) it's just the game can't handle the improvement for everyone :(

I agree that OSP gameplay was better but the technical environment of CPMA is so much fairer.

If the VQ3 community could just work together slightly for once we could easily tweak the game (Like in CQ3) and play that instead, hell it might be even better than OSP then.

<< Comment #77 @ 18:09 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #76

I just dislike the fact that everyone now HAS to turn on xerp to be competetive, as you won't stand a chance against a xerper, no matter his ping or your ping.
It's sad, the game looks completely different from what it used to be, and I don't think it was meant to be played the way it is gonna be played now.

<< Comment #209 @ 15:04 UTC, 10 April 2008 >>

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erok - Reply to #77

if you don't have xerp on, then ping DOES make a difference...

<< Comment #83 @ 18:50 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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tifu - Reply to #72

let me give you an advice: if you want game to be like before cpma kicked in, GET BACK TO OSP AND FUCKIN' STAY THERE
you're welcome

<< Comment #92 @ 19:20 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #83

I wouldn't mind using OSP again :P

<< Comment #90 @ 19:14 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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becks - Reply to #59

do you also play with a ball mouse?

<< Comment #61 @ 17:44 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #54

Of course I did, and I'm using cg_nudge in CPMA ; but nudge doesn't make the game imbalanced as much as xerpclients.

<< Comment #64 @ 17:46 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #61

So, according to your past statements you are basically handicapping yourself, why?

Osp bushido? :D

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<< Comment #67 @ 17:48 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #64

Yeah, kinda ; against a xerp user, no matter the ping, I'm getting lg raped, there's nothing I can do.

edit : I'm not using it as it doesn't reflect how the game should be. The game was, in my eyes, the most balanced game ever, with weapons being equal. It's not the case if you turn on xerp, when you can easily and often kill your enemy with 20 lg ammos.

Edited by uniiity at 17:50 UTC, 4 April 2008

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tourist - Reply to #67

did it ever occur to you it was balanced because the netcode was garbage? or rather, let me ask you this, how did the game feel first time you ever connected to an online server? did it feel natural? realtime? responsive?

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mkeiy - Reply to #64

hahaha at the bushido call, [+]

<< Comment #65 @ 17:47 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #61

Xerpclients isn't the problem LAGHAX -1 is what is causing all the hits to register xerpclients is just a visual aid of where the opponent is.

<< Comment #69 @ 17:48 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #65

So what about forcing all net settings to 0 ? Just like what has been done for YEARS in osp and no one EVER complained

<< Comment #71 @ 17:51 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #69

Maxpackets 0 would kinda suck? :(

Surely it's easier to just tweak the game slightly than to make the game laggy and make those with a high ping need to be three times as good to even hope of beating a low ping player?

I know I'd rather tweak VQ3 a bit (maybe CQ3, maybe less so) than make the game laggy again.

<< Comment #73 @ 17:53 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #71

What the hell do you think :x
Xerp helps BOTH high and low pingers !

<< Comment #74 @ 17:57 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #73

Yes of course but xerp isn't causing more hits to register....

The netcode settings laghax, nudge etc are what causes more hits to register and as it so happens they do a good job of it.

20ms vs 60ms equal skill is still advantage 20ms. Even if the 60ms player uses xerp.

(Also you said you use nudge right? you aren't using it with laghax -1 I hope :s)

<< Comment #42 @ 15:13 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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_Rapid_ - Reply to #10

are you sure that you are not wrong?...

<< Comment #155 @ 14:15 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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mov9k - Reply to #10

3rd time... v3rb doesnt use xerp!

<< Comment #156 @ 14:21 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #155

Then why did he admit that he was using it :P

<< Comment #157 @ 14:22 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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mov9k - Reply to #156

Some time ago I was talking to some best pl players, and I remember that v3rb wasnt using xerp - his aim is the same with or without it.

<< Comment #161 @ 14:35 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #157

Maybe his aim is the same versus low skilled players, with 10 ms on polish public servers, but definitely not against skilled players. I've followed v3rb, I know how he plays ; his aim was definitely different in OSP.

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mov9k - Reply to #161

v3rb asked me to remove this link and now listen all of you: If someone has problem with v3rb's aiming, pm him on Qnet - he has 2GB of OSP demos where his aim is similar like in CPMA. HF with watching it ;-)

Edited by mov9k at 18:14 UTC, 5 April 2008

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uniiity - Reply to #162

I'm not gonna waste my time and register to download that demo :P
He probably had good accuracies, as, from what I understood from this website, that was a polish cup, meaning 10 ms ping against low skilled (ati avenger??) players :)
Not relevant.

<< Comment #169 @ 18:16 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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mov9k - Reply to #168

check my post - edited.

<< Comment #197 @ 06:43 UTC, 8 April 2008 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #162

why being such a fanboy? he obviously xerps, get over it

<< Comment #17 @ 11:38 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Rush3D-Frozen

so v3rb best aim ever? :)

<< Comment #20 @ 11:42 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #17

Yeah, he's the new toxic obviously !

<< Comment #22 @ 12:02 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Carpio - Reply to #20

How dare you compare anybody to the bestest quake player ever! ;)

<< Comment #26 @ 12:37 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #22

Thanks to xerp, the comparison can be done. I've never seen toxic with such weapon accuracies

<< Comment #44 @ 15:22 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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_Rapid_ - Reply to #26

toxic are not a good player for his weapon accuracies i think this is very obvious and really don't know how a good player like you can compare v3rb with toxic's accuracies and try to find any conclusion about nothing.

I have better weapon accuracies that Cooller! but he destroys me in a duel. V3rb has one of the best aim of the "known" european quakers. But i know people with better lg, mg than v3rb that are just mediocre players.

Maybe you have some envy about v3rb stats? :P

<< Comment #48 @ 15:41 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #44

No, I'm just saying, a lot of decent players could also reach those stats with Xerp enabled. I've tried that cvar, and I can clearly say that it boosted my stats. Still, I find it imbalanced and I won't ever use it.

<< Comment #57 @ 17:18 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #48

Better turn brightskins off too then mate, they make it far too easy to rail at long ranges.

<< Comment #97 @ 20:07 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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deus - Reply to #44

You just proved everyones point about vq3 cpm making it alot easier for everyone to aim with the best players.

"V3rb has one of the best aim of the "known" european quakers. But i know people with better lg, mg than v3rb that are just mediocre players."

<< Comment #99 @ 20:17 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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micke - Reply to #97

vq3 cpm? is that like the old cq3 or something?

<< Comment #60 @ 17:44 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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MarzenGold - Reply to #26

I have only seen toxic reach 48% lg once on dm6. Although he played a weak player and mosts of the shots where mid air shafting.
*edit* in osp

Edited by Wolscooter at 17:44 UTC, 4 April 2008

<< Comment #30 @ 12:51 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Carpio

Ok ok! I was just joking. I still cant get over that ridiculus toxic i-view!

<< Comment #46 @ 15:31 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Anonymous (catv54035D75.pool.t-online.hu)

1.:Xerp = placebo, useless to whine about it. 2.:verb > tox. 3.: You should look around at your own neighbourhood first, instead of whining about bullshit net commands : ). Cheating on a league game is lot more lame, than xerping. Anyway I guess nobody surprised, miel has the faking in their veins...

<< Comment #47 @ 15:39 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #46

Hi dash,

I don't support what he did, it's not like I'm behind his back to prevent him from doing such things.
Also, don't spit on him, you were glad when he played with you those 2v2 newb hungarians cups :)

edit : about your 'xerp' opinion, you clearly have an insufficient knowledge about quake to judge anything. Since when do retards and div3 players can make such statements ?

Oh, and about linkin faking, well get some balls instead of posting anonymous comments

Edited by uniiity at 15:44 UTC, 4 April 2008

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Anonymous (catv54035D75.pool.t-online.hu)

Hi Unity,

Faking is such a thing you like to do too : ) but it's ok while you don't break any rules with it. Ye I was glad he played with me, no doubt he is a skilled teamplayer and he doesn't has to proove his skills for ppl, on every forum like you do : ). I don't spit on him, just don't agree what he did. About this xerp thing, I won't going into a 'xerp flame'. It's the biggest waste of time. You mentioned yourself right with the retard and div3 attributes, because you are the one who make statements. I guess Arqon has more knowledge about cpma netcode and xerpclient. Read his opinion before you waste your time with your favorite activity: whining, get a life instead....

Regards: dash

<< Comment #58 @ 17:39 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #51

Actually, arQon giving his opinion isn't something reliable. More than half of the community whines about xerp, including professional gamers whom do have sufficient knowledge and wise opinions about how the game changed. I'm _NOT_ making any statement, I'm just noticing the flame going around, among both the community AND renowned players. Furthermore, arQon being the developer doesn't make him a Mr knows it all. Everyone has always granted him for what he did, there's no doubt that he pushed the game to its peak, and we can all thank him for that. However, I don't think that he's the one to fit, when it comes to judge the imbalance of the gameplay. He's a developer, not a player. When you create a project aimed at a community, it then becomes a commitment to face the various critics and improve what is improvable. Even if xerp ain't that bad, I blame arQon for ignoring community's wish : to allow a xerp turn on/off via callvote, or at least, make it appear in /Players panel.
That being said, I wish I could see you one day win some tourney instead of opening your mouth in every forum ; free whining is what you do the best. Don't even mention the word 'faking' again, if you can't even create yourself an account and show your nick. No, I'm not pretending to be better than anyone, that is for me the biggest waste of time ; I have nothing to prove, as I'm not a big name nor any talented player. I'm just giving my opinion just like anyone would do in something called a forum.

Edited by uniiity at 18:06 UTC, 4 April 2008

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ini - Reply to #58

I don't think anyone disagrees about it making the game more aim based and that using it is an advantage (As it obviously is). But simply banning it (callvote) or causing witch hunts (/players) is not the solution.

<< Comment #75 @ 18:04 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy

wow that sucked!

could also watch some bot ffa - horrible - spawn, running, shooting
thses guys should watch some kane demos to learn how to play tdm
instead i guess they wathced all only toxic demos ..i hated toxics tdm style . completly total aim+rushing :i

miss the times u vc all* there they used the walk button at lest sometimes

<< Comment #85 @ 19:02 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Vorv - Reply to #75

lol :)

I recommend Eurocup2 playoffs for lan finals 4K v SK . (would not bother with Kane pov though:)

If you can remember that far back ?:) Decemember 2000 iirc.

<< Comment #108 @ 22:42 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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stelamfanboy - Reply to #85

whats with that? kane always ruled

<< Comment #110 @ 23:01 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Vorv - Reply to #108

its when 4 young valiant ISDN'ERS from UK beat mighty SK all lanned up!!

<< Comment #114 @ 08:02 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #110

So what? Belgian clan cx beat them on internet as well and thus qualified for the finals of EC 2. That doesn't make SK's or kane's gameplay less enjoyable.
What's your point?

Edited by CyraX at 08:04 UTC, 5 April 2008

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Vorv - Reply to #114

It was a response to "Not knowing how to play TDM" it was a half jokey yet half serious reply. We went 41-1 down on DM14 and came back without cess'age :P We won 3-1 and was the exact kinda game that stelamfanboy seems to enjoy :)

btw CX never made EC2 lan finals :p prolly EC 3.

It was 4z/4k/evol/[u] and all* at EC2

oh btw belgians did not play on ISDN for years.

Anything else today class? :| Everyone done their homework?

<< Comment #126 @ 11:01 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #117

hahah ok I get it now. oh god, I totally forgot about EC2 it seems. I lost all my pre-EC 3 demos some years ago. You have some by any chance (the game you refer to or other ones from that event) ?

<3 vorvavoo :)

<< Comment #130 @ 11:33 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Vorv - Reply to #126

:P

No demos to hand sorry, they had been floating around on the net for years but my friend google cannot find them atm :-(

Might have some on the old PC with some BWEC demos, will have a look when I set it up next.

*kiss*

<< Comment #78 @ 18:17 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Aquashark

non-tiered weapons
non-tiered armors
weak quad
people just run around and outaim the others

wtf is the point in this? where's the teamplay?

in QW you have to work your ass and coordinate your team around enemies with RL/LG/Quad/Pent/Ring.
every RL matters, every Quad/Pent matters, every sneaked enemy in your area of control = deadliness, you have to push, you have to sneak, you have to secure backpacks for team mates and be aware of elements of environment (triggers, platforms, hazards, spike shooters) etc.

here was just: pick up the first gun you see, pew pew,
pew pew some more and don't forget to pick up that one powerup that's improperly named "Quad" from time to time

Edited by Aquashark at 18:18 UTC, 4 April 2008

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<< Comment #96 @ 19:45 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #78

lol no you don't....

.... you just use mg.

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<< Comment #100 @ 20:35 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #96

ZING

<< Comment #101 @ 20:39 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #100

where's fern anyway :>

<< Comment #102 @ 20:41 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #101

How would I know where fern is?:<<<<<

DUN GEDDIT
EPIC FAIL
or something

<< Comment #106 @ 22:26 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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spyteman - Reply to #102

"ZING"

<< Comment #107 @ 22:34 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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Aaron - Reply to #102

fern and spyte does this zing shit all the time

<< Comment #109 @ 22:46 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #107

So does everybody :<

<< Comment #186 @ 08:39 UTC, 7 April 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #109

ZING

<< Comment #104 @ 21:24 UTC, 4 April 2008 >>

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muxah - Reply to #78

relax, this is just vq3 gayplay. vq3's tdm suck =\
net code? net code is great, gameplay - shitty. so sad

<< Comment #115 @ 08:05 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #78

sadly I have to agree with you ='(

<< Comment #122 @ 10:11 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #78

plz, if you are telling the truth, then for all that effort i might aswell play cs

<< Comment #112 @ 00:00 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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zeroql

osp + vq3 netcode = All quake 3 players happy :)

<< Comment #121 @ 10:10 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #112

LIES

i dont want to use timenudge -20

it looks worse than xerp

thx

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<< Comment #113 @ 00:38 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Nukm

btw, is v3rb also a great defrag player? or do iconfuse him with someone else

<< Comment #124 @ 10:12 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #113

yes he is

<< Comment #125 @ 10:21 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Anonymous (catv54035D75.pool.t-online.hu)

Winning a tourney like what? Like this: http://www.cybergames.hu/node/2314 ?

or this:

http://www.quake.cz/QuickCup/?page=cup8 ?

or a LAN event like this: http://www.gpslan.com/ and this: http://pq.mindenkilapja.hu/ ?

Tbh. I don't care about mine or your trophies. Uni I'll give you that you are a good quake player, I don't discredit it. The reason why I 'spitting' on you, is your behavior and the 15 years old whining girl which one you acting all the time... Anyway I'm not an evil-natured person, you started this 'bullshit contest' a long time ago. Whatever! Have a nice weekend!

<< Comment #127 @ 11:04 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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uniiity - Reply to #125

what a bunch of quality tourneys with *top* teams signed up ! =)

Read again my post, and you will notice that I'm not whining at anything, just expressing my opinion about an unfair cvar.

<< Comment #132 @ 11:41 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #127

its not unfair, if people practice as much as.pl then theyd aim as good too... pl will still outaim everyone else in osp too.

its not their fault they are good aimers, or xerps fault, its the fact they are active... yeh xerp makes it better too... but practice as much as them and it wont matter.

It's just like its not my fault that im right all the time,

Edited by nVc at 11:45 UTC, 5 April 2008

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uniiity - Reply to #132

They are good aimers I agree, but if everyone xerped they wouldn't be that impressive, and we would see many other players hitting 45 % lg.

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lolvc - Reply to #133

Yes thats true, but not everyone :) and from my view i prefer a game where aim is such an important factor than prediction spam.

but you must also remember the people that use xerp and say they don't :) and from a spectators pov... cpma + xerp. is much better too and therefore better for quake as a competition game... especially even for noobs :)

Edited by nVc at 11:47 UTC, 5 April 2008

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Vorv - Reply to #132

You seem to miss a few key points. Aim is aim fair enough but do consider........

OSP and CPMA vq3 are diff mods, they feel different to play, the netcodes different. I have made more comebacks than some twat out of Take That but could always quite happily pick up Q2/Q3 (or even RTCW/ET) after long periods away (months or years) and play reasonably well, especially tdm/stopwatch. I have now found out however that I really struggle if the game is different to what it was when you last played, and this is issue is amplified if your opponents have been playing said mod for years :P

Yes! The the polish having been playing CPMA for years and years..., I recall days when it was known as the polish mod, simply cos of bad connections they played it on a massive scale in Poland. I remember when matr0x demos 1st started appearing.... :P

Yes the other shocker...! The polish also played OSP at same time, of course they did as majority of big tourneys always used OSP (all be it on a shit ping but we are talking aim here right?). Majority of other people in the old-school days stuck to OSP.! It is more than possible to play several mods at a high level in a particular game if you want, even if the mods feel so different :P To be honest you can play 2 totally different games at a high level - you just have to put some time in at one stage in life :P

Anyway I am babbling. See my point yet ? :p It basically means the aim margin would be not be so vast in OSP compared to CPMA as us OSP players actually used to erm play OSP and stuff ?: P. Christ lets play a totally different game and see who really can aim !!??!

Of course they are active, of course they are great players but do not ignore the fact that they have been playing the "mod" for many many years.......

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<< Comment #141 @ 12:27 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #139

edit: cba,

something about you being kindof right, keeping community active by regular and contraversal patches... and quake live soon

gg

Edited by nVc at 12:37 UTC, 5 April 2008

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<< Comment #142 @ 12:33 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #141

Idiot tbh :/

<< Comment #143 @ 12:50 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Vorv - Reply to #141

I dont really want to get involved in a daft conversation over this but to so say OSP was unplayable on 60-80 ms is crap !!!

Sure it is on someones home server versus some fag on 5 ms but thats what the whole point of a server search was ?

High pings did not stop Russia in OSP did it?:) They came to BWEC (after qualifying online in groups that were made so pings would be reasonably fair), bummed everyone to peoples suprise (including some ladys of the night iirc:) then went home and competed online to the best level they could, they didnt moan that much online in OSP and always turned up which was admirable. Thank god they did this for years on end for the q3 scene eh? :) Teams i was in always used to try and play on some shitty de or other servers to get a reasonably fair ping v clans like Forze, and other clans from Slovenia? (might be wrong) like errr 666 etc.

I have had a shit DSL connection for years myself, regardless of that 4K was all stuck on ISDN for years and years when most clans could field 4 cablers or "lanned" up on a fat pipe at some secret wank-fest in Geneva. (ISDN = Ping was ok 40-50 ms dos at 1st, maybe lower for people in southern UK, but the plasma lagged you out etc, binds only etc:)

CPMA is the "answer" to the net code and it obviously works if you look at accuracies now a days........ but to say OSP was/is unplayable on such a ping is so wrong............ lucky a lot of clans never thought the way you do or there would of been a lot of boring Eurocups :P

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Vorv - Reply to #143

God cant believe you edit your comment after I type all that :-)

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ini - Reply to #145

hahah egd

<< Comment #146 @ 13:04 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #143

I think you might misunderstand his point about his connection.

I'm on virgin at uni and it literally is unplayable (Mine is worse than his because I share with 3 others!) even in CPMA for me. I get massive spikes of ping with constant lag outs, can't use standard settings (mp 125, and some servers lock it at 60 and such, ffs).

On a good day I can just about manage to play some Q3 with CPMA thanks to the netcode and commands such as cg_optimiseBW "2". In OSP I just get a constant 999 ping or the weapons are so hopelessly inconsistant it's not even worth trying.

Now obviously you can say, then get a better connection but it's not really a choice for me (high connection cost to bt, other housemates etc.)

<< Comment #148 @ 13:16 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Vorv - Reply to #146

I see what you mean your saying your connection is shite but you can still play CPMA - thats fair enough but kind of side tracking from what he actually typed, "osp is unplayable in 60-80 ms"

The way he worded it sounded more like he had a high-ish dos ping but fairly steady :)

cg_optimiseBW "2" - enlighten me whats that do?:)

<< Comment #149 @ 13:24 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #148

oh no sry ... it displays that as average. /cstats me one time ull see what i mean, about 32-172 ping range atweekends, right now 16-92 on a uk server. others have like 16-24 its depressing, but i can still play luckily...just innaccurately... ie hitscan is broken... dont get me started on how q4 plays lol. hard to move isp when u live at home and goto uni though, almost convinced the big man to goto bt or o2 so fingers crossed :) i hate typing on ps3 browse, gramma is awful

**edit** some stats bearing in mind its only 4pm xD

Connection Statistics for pow
C->S: Ping 41ms Range 38-46 Lost 0%
S->C: Ping 50ms Range 32-80 Lost 23% Late 0%
]/cstats

Connection Statistics for pow
C->S: Ping 35ms Range 34-40 Lost 0%
S->C: Ping 49ms Range 32-64 Lost 26% Late 0%
]/cstats

Connection Statistics for pow
C->S: Ping 39ms Range 38-42 Lost 0%
S->C: Ping 55ms Range 32-88 Lost 23% Late 0%
]/cstats

Connection Statistics for pow
C->S: Ping 37ms Range 35-39 Lost 0%
S->C: Ping 52ms Range 32-80 Lost 20% Late 0%
]/cstats

Connection Statistics for pow
C->S: Ping 36ms Range 35-42 Lost 0%
S->C: Ping 48ms Range 32-88 Lost 13% Late 0%
Padawan almost dodged iM adr's rocket
]/cstats

Connection Statistics for pow
C->S: Ping 56ms Range 49-63 Lost 0%
S->C: Ping 70ms Range 48-112 Lost 10% Late 0%
]/cstats

Connection Statistics for pow
C->S: Ping 50ms Range 42-63 Lost 0%
S->C: Ping 60ms Range 40-80 Lost 13% Late 0%

sux4me :(

Edited by nVc at 15:43 UTC, 5 April 2008

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ini - Reply to #148

OptimiseBW cuts down on the amount of data sent/recieved. It defaults to 1 on pretty much all cpma servers 2 cuts it down even more but you miss out on things like teleporters etc.

<< Comment #158 @ 14:26 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Anonymous (catv54035D75.pool.t-online.hu) - Reply to #127

I think Rush3d is quality, noctis and gandhi are quality, mS and Pantery are quality, etc, etc...

<< Comment #136 @ 11:46 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Rush3D-Frozen

we will w8 for ESWC again, and will see, Russian flag at 1st place again... or may be BY :)

<< Comment #135 @ 11:46 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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muxah

that's why "vq3 netcode" part is there

<< Comment #137 @ 11:48 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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AHXNXA

xerp mentioned 48 times in comments
NOW 49!!!!!!!! >D
xerp
50

<< Comment #138 @ 11:55 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #137

you win a degree in maths, congratulations.

<< Comment #151 @ 13:47 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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AHXNXA - Reply to #138

but u cant def :DDDDDDDDDDDD

<< Comment #153 @ 14:14 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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lolvc - Reply to #151

its not like i try my heard out when i play ntf defence, play for accuracy only! and ill have you know i won the award for the worlds best defender

<< Comment #159 @ 14:26 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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Anonymous (62-101-48-147.sheab.net)

heahaehhaehaehaehhaee nvc dont know how to def :EE

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<< Comment #165 @ 15:51 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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x37wfd836326a37

i want to say smething about osp so if u dont remember Poland were good too
2nd place in last cb nationscup tdm
http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?lid=2274

and saeson before ? wow poland got 2nd place too
http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?lid=2074

so pls stfu if u think its all xerp etc

Edited by x37wfd836326a37 at 15:57 UTC, 5 April 2008

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<< Comment #173 @ 20:36 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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AHXNXA - Reply to #165

XERP XERP XERP IM NOT USING IT

<< Comment #187 @ 10:11 UTC, 7 April 2008 >>

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hamst - Reply to #165

actually this is the last cb nationscup http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?lid=2805

..where verb played without xerp :P
http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?wid=6160180&lid=2805

<< Comment #178 @ 23:30 UTC, 5 April 2008 >>

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MassMan

I think it's interesting that this demo has more comments than downloads. Gotta love when uninformed people whine XERP just for the hell of it.

Oh. And as someone wrote earlier, Poland got 2nd place in nations cups when osp was used so clearly they are not all aim.
I would rather see a team of relatively unknown Team Players win, than a pickup team of Big Name Players mainly chosen for their ancient achievements.

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<< Comment #179 @ 00:32 UTC, 6 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #178

There was a GTV you know :P

<< Comment #185 @ 03:58 UTC, 7 April 2008 >>

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linoleuM

at least the word xerp sounds kinda cool

it's a nice word to read on like the 2/3 of the posts on esr :p

<< Comment #193 @ 20:41 UTC, 7 April 2008 >>

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Thorin

Here's my Jamerio impression:

Soon this match-up will just be 8 polish people in a server

<< Comment #195 @ 01:15 UTC, 8 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #193

Too short and it wasn't filled with enough rage.

<< Comment #198 @ 07:43 UTC, 8 April 2008 >>

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riske_of_h8 - Reply to #195

I was also looking for the other 100+ lines :(

<< Comment #201 @ 11:09 UTC, 9 April 2008 >>

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POL_ThrawN

you guys are boring with this comments :D

<< Comment #202 @ 15:14 UTC, 9 April 2008 >>

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ddk

not sure if anyones interested but we played them again in clanbase, with the goal of scraping back some pride. it was very close on ospdm5, we won dm14 and dm7 was closer but we lost unfortunately ;]. cpma dm7 isn't the same, you're at a disadvantage unless you cess, due to the ability for players to hit 45-50% mg, quite sad! team-ffa ;] at least the result was a lot more respectable for us, ggs.

Edited by ddk at 15:28 UTC, 9 April 2008

<< Comment #203 @ 20:09 UTC, 9 April 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #202

you mean due to the netcode's "ability" to let the players hit where they aim, and that's really NOT sad. But if the sad part was only about having to cess, then I agree.

Edited by GzUz at 20:11 UTC, 9 April 2008

<< Comment #204 @ 20:19 UTC, 9 April 2008 >>

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ddk - Reply to #203

well, i have no quarell with the netcode. however, xerp changes the techniques required to aim well with mg / shaft. probably the other guns too but, shaft in osp was always a PREDICTIVE weapon, you predicted their movements patterns, except on LAN where it became more reactive due to the extremely low latency. as such cpma/xerp has altered the online game dynamic and in combination with the slower movement has promoted a "point + click" style of aiming. ofcourse everyone is good at aiming now? it's quite humourous that those who weren't so great at aiming before (not that i'm pointing this comment to you) are praising it now. but it's bad for the vq3, in cpm xerp is great - it was designed to aid the mod. I've played a lot of cpm and i think xerp fits it fine. but in vq3 it totally fucks the balance.

using that argument is fine, but totally absurd when you apply some basic context and knowledge. i've played both mods extensively (cpma cpm, cpma vq3 i mean) and i've played since 2000 so i've seen how stuff has developed. just look at it. it's very silly to say that "xerp" hasn't changed q3's basic aiming dynamics, you could add a different weapon and it would have a similar effect; altering gameplay/balance. so people who say that to me, clearly don't understand what q3 was for the last 6-7yrs. they are aiming better because the skills required to aim have changed. while i am by no means discreditting their win over us, i'd be lying if i didn't say that i think this bias towards aim isn't a step backwards in the gameplay. try playing without xerp, that's a little more accurate - but still with the slower movement it's definitely easier, xerp is overkill.

oh btw i'm totally open for criticism on my argument! i don't want to appear conceited

Edited by ddk at 21:02 UTC, 9 April 2008

<< Comment #208 @ 13:55 UTC, 10 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #204

Gameplay is certainly worse I don't think anyone should/would argue otherwise (Kinda blatant really). I don't think it would take much tweaking to fix the "new" balance issues (That have always been there just every year it increasingly becomes more obvious).

The "predictive" element of OSP aiming isn't really a different way of aiming at all it's just you can't see the delay/latency, it's also a highly UNFAIR skill, the lower the ping the less predicting you have to do and therefore the higher the ping the more skilled you have to be to overcome an inferior opponent.

<< Comment #213 @ 20:05 UTC, 10 April 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #208

higher the ping the more skilled you have to be to overcome an inferior opponent

WHAT?!?! ROFLOL¹²³

SKILL?!?!? Predicting @ OSP with hitscan weapons is NOT about skill (not that there is none in it), it's about luck. You GUESS the enemy will go one way and lead your aim predicting there, but if he goes the other way you'll be shooting anything.

Skills is about REALLY hitting where you are aiming, if the crosshair is on the enemy you hit, if it's not, you don't, no guesses, no luck, long live CPMA \o/

<< Comment #214 @ 20:47 UTC, 10 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #213

That was pretty much my point I just worded it in a different manner.

If you hadn't noticed all the OSP arguments revolve around it being more "skilled" to aim in.

Edited by ini at 20:48 UTC, 10 April 2008

<< Comment #217 @ 01:39 UTC, 11 April 2008 >>

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13m3 - Reply to #214

oh I got you now =]

<< Comment #210 @ 15:17 UTC, 10 April 2008 >>

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erok - Reply to #204

why can't we all just play cq3? :(

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<< Comment #212 @ 20:04 UTC, 10 April 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #210

Because it's different and thus extremely evil and filled with fail.

<< Comment #207 @ 13:24 UTC, 10 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #202

It's pretty much TFFA in OSP too!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #215 @ 22:03 UTC, 10 April 2008 >>

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POL_ThrawN - Reply to #202

It was not game UK vs POL A becous:
1. I was playing
2. no zik who is playing at miel
3. We are not taking OC games so serious as NC
4. dm14 is playing eQuador in POL A
5. no coach like m3[mcz] who is very importent for us in NC;)

but gg ;d

<< Comment #218 @ 07:18 UTC, 11 April 2008 >>

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fjorgyn - Reply to #215

3. We are not taking OC games so serious as NC

you must be the only ones :D

<< Comment #221 @ 11:54 UTC, 11 April 2008 >>

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ddk - Reply to #215

:-( btw, howcome kertal isn't in the poland.A team? he always seems to rape in his poland.B games :D - he was playing for the main polish team back in osp when we played you guys last i think :O

<< Comment #222 @ 12:27 UTC, 11 April 2008 >>

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POL_ThrawN - Reply to #221

im not allowed to talk about thet xD

<< Comment #224 @ 22:13 UTC, 11 April 2008 >>

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ddk - Reply to #222

e-drama :>?

<< Comment #225 @ 11:02 UTC, 12 April 2008 >>

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POL_ThrawN - Reply to #224

not this time ;)

<< Comment #228 @ 23:00 UTC, 12 April 2008 >>

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Vorv - Reply to #221

because he is taking OC v.serious !!!! ;))

<< Comment #211 @ 20:01 UTC, 10 April 2008 >>

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madbringer

I use some xerp in the morning
I use some xerp at night
I use some xerp in the afternoon
It makes me feel alright.
I use some xerp
In time of peace
And use in time of war.
I use some xerp before i use some xerp
And then i use some more.

Yeah, that's what i do, hey.

On servers, people tell me, son, you really play it bad
On servers, people tell me, son, you use what help you can
And then one day, i met a man, he raped me straight and said
I play good, and i shaft fine, but first turn on the xerp

I use some xerp in the morning
I use some xerp at night
I use some xerp in the afternoon
It makes me feel alright.
I use some xerp
In time of peace
And use in time of war.
I use some xerp before i use some xerp
And then i use some more.

ooh ooh ooh ooh

One xerp one game
Funny game, funny game
Gimme that xerp shaft

<< Comment #219 @ 10:53 UTC, 11 April 2008 >>

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[mash] - Reply to #211

nice.

<< Comment #220 @ 11:45 UTC, 11 April 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #219

Let me show you my xerp.

Edited by madbringer at 11:46 UTC, 11 April 2008

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<< Comment #223 @ 17:00 UTC, 11 April 2008 >>

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Vajra - Reply to #220

win and good :D

<< Comment #230 @ 12:18 UTC, 22 April 2008 >>

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Raist - Reply to #220

Plasma 97.2

Fail!

<< Comment #231 @ 23:38 UTC, 22 April 2008 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #230

I had a bad day, was playing on a ball mouse, had 140 people in my flat, was drunk, stoned and asleep, my house was on fire, my entire family just died, my monitor was displaying only one pixel.

Give me a break!

<< Comment #232 @ 01:37 UTC, 23 April 2008 >>

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ini - Reply to #231

EARN IT

<< Comment #216 @ 22:51 UTC, 10 April 2008 >>

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Anonymous (aboh35.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)

hah :D all talking about aim :D / xerp
- U dont know the power of real good coach :D

<< Comment #226 @ 12:45 UTC, 12 April 2008 >>

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