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I did it guys (No comments)
Posted by gSTRUCTOR @ 20:54 CDT, 15 April 2024 - iMsg
Born, grew, had kids and before dying, whenever it happens, i can die happy now.

[img1]


long live quake brothers, im playing QL duel every night with couple friends and enjoying it like its 2010.

thanks

btw cooller stream now with cam and cool blue lighting woohoo (RickFlair.gif)
Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 21:04 CDT, 15 April 2024 - 65 Hits
Day One (3 comments)
Posted by czm @ 12:07 CDT, 15 April 2024 - iMsg
Got some weird skin thing on my knee, should I get it checked out?

Also wasn’t it cool back when we just hit a few keys in a row to communicate in game via text? Pretty sure that’s what I spent most of my time thinking about while getting driven home from middle school

But back to the skin issue. Think it’s related to this time I fell in that gravel parking lot in Neely, Alaska while running in flip flops and scraped my knee real bad. Not sure tho, cuz that was like 18 years ago
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My 2nd PQL frag movie (4 comments)
Posted by Maga-pql @ 10:34 CDT, 5 April 2024 - iMsg

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Rating: 8 (3 votes)
Don't take your girl to the cinema, better save money and check the tape:
Youtube
Edited by Lam at 12:57 CDT, 8 April 2024 - 420 Hits
GA-LOO-GA-LOO (6 comments)
Posted by Jamerio @ 18:12 CDT, 26 March 2024 - iMsg
Kinda scary, whichever side you're on, if you don't see the severity of a company like google doing this, you're one of the bad guys..

Wonder how long it will take until they start editing your emails, whatapp and creating sinister simulations of your browsing history to frame you as whatever they want.

Edited by Jamerio at 18:24 CDT, 26 March 2024 - 655 Hits
project velocity is officialy dead, blaming DoS attacks (20 comments)
Posted by hc @ 07:06 CDT, 26 March 2024 - iMsg
Just found on r/quakelive: https://old.reddit.com/r/QuakeLive/comments/1...abandoned/

Some dude quoted their discord:

Hi @everyone I've spent some time organizing my thoughts around the future of Project Velocity and our role in the Quake Esports space. Over the past 6 months we've spent countless hours creating a brand and product that captured the essence of the AFPS experience, thanks to <@&1171941457976905778> <@474545543784169482> <@539930087496351759> <@761697558648324156> and <@518268101218009120> <@101829452719198208> <@111593347063263232> and <@359426104760729602> we achieved something remarkable in our short time here in the Quake scene. Our vision was always a bold and creative one, one that combined the sounds and sights of the earlier days of gaming into a modern package that could attract new viewers into the AFPS space. While we were able to pivot around and more or less secure the Project Velocity tournament servers, it was widely known that the attacker spread his efforts into other community servers and impacted play for hundreds of players. The AFPS space is too small for us to try and force a round peg into a square hole - if the security of Quake Live is not conducive to rebuilding a healthy player base, then I see no reason to pour resources into a space that is so easily jeopardized. Project Velocity was entirely funded out of my own pocket, and while I was happy to do so I also have a family that have an obligation to make wise life decisions on behalf of. I do not see a world in which I can confidently sell sponsorship offerings into a league that faces constant attacks. Unfortunately, Quake Live servers are some of the flimsiest game servers I've ever come across. Frustrated is an understatement - I poured my heart into soul into organizing a project that I held so close to my heart. For now, we will keep the Project Velocity Discord server alive in the event of our return. With somewhat credible rumors of Quake 6 in the mix, we are keeping our eye on the franchise and will happily return in the event that we feel we can provide value to the community. Thank you to the thousands of players who tuned in, our incredible <@&1193666215974019173> and <@&1172304310504259604> for allowing us to explore the option of dedicated servers. We will always be rooting for the AFPS space, and will always remain a fan of the genre &#128578;

that's all folks
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Boris the Crow x Jenny Jinya (No comments)
Posted by Ins0mnia @ 18:36 CDT, 21 March 2024 - iMsg
Sinds it's been a while for an update about the crow. Boris doing great. Recently featured in a comic from Jenny Jinya.

https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/loving-rea...irect=true
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<< Comment #1 @ 16:49 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By cpma JaGGz 
#freezhu
<< Comment #14 @ 01:23 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By Sweden Laim  - Reply to #1
#FreeBeer
<< Comment #2 @ 16:50 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By bloody eyeball by hatelull melechesh 
If this is asking whether I think zhu should be able to sign up and attend, by all means. Whether he is allowed to participate or not is a different matter and will be up to admin's decision.
<< Comment #3 @ 16:58 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By Portugal ProT 
Only if he's just temporarily unbanned for this DHW.
<< Comment #4 @ 17:06 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By inuyasha8 sonic 
Once upon a time, a very long time ago now, about last Friday, Winnie-the-Pooh lived in a forest all by himself under the name of Sanders.
<< Comment #5 @ 17:13 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By bloody eyeball by hatelull melechesh  - Reply to #4
Expected [img1]. Am disappoint.
<< Comment #6 @ 17:28 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By inuyasha8 sonic  - Reply to #5
Then I can open place in this he got upon forest of is he the means somethis: Isn't its making. You does?
<< Comment #8 @ 17:43 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By bloody eyeball by hatelull melechesh  - Reply to #6
Its all of has can.
<< Comment #10 @ 17:56 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By Germany - Bayern mouse*  - Reply to #4
winnie the Vo0*
<< Comment #7 @ 17:33 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By Germany - Bayern mouse* 
someone major this i want a broad voter spectrum
<< Comment #9 @ 17:50 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By inuyasha8 sonic  - Reply to #7
zhu wants a broad
<< Comment #13 @ 23:02 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By Sweden Anonymous (213.112.162.50)  - Reply to #7
yes
<< Comment #11 @ 18:06 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By Ukraine Laskiy 
only cuz of his gf situation
<< Comment #12 @ 18:25 CDT, 8 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #11
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #19 @ 04:47 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By Ukraine Laskiy  - Reply to #12
felt it

hug meh brah
<< Comment #15 @ 02:13 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By ql hitsu 
zhu just mirin coz we can play the game and he cant. U MAD BRO?
<< Comment #16 @ 02:59 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By United Kingdom losty 
he claims he can beat half the field and being beat by an ex cheat could sting so voted yes for entertainment purposes.
<< Comment #17 @ 04:16 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By Somalia Joker_  - Reply to #16
This.
<< Comment #18 @ 04:44 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By Sweden Laim  - Reply to #17
I wish we had a reaction shot on jamerio when he sees that zhu is unbanned.
<< Comment #35 @ 23:11 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #18
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #34 @ 22:53 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #16
Deletion requested by user.
Edited by Zhu at 23:08 CDT, 9 October 2013
<< Comment #47 @ 14:29 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By USA_UK Jamerio  - Reply to #34
You keep posting this video like it means something, for all everyone knows you could have cheated and be playing back a demo and pretending to play and with you being banned from quake, that's not an unfair statement.

Your inability to recognize this and continued attempt to somehow make out it does not exist is what should keep you banned.

Its not that someone does not deserve a second chance, its that you don't because you've not been graceful in your punishment and tried to make a nuisance of yourself to try and deal with that.

Personally, I hope you stay banned as your distress amuses me.
<< Comment #51 @ 02:24 CDT, 11 October 2013 >>
By Exelent nex1  - Reply to #34
Good map control and movement! Now i'm really intrigued to know what your real level is; you could be a nice addiction to the actual pro players pool, that is becoming thinner and thinner.
But for starting, you could start behaving like a semi-sober person, at least, and cutting down some free craziness.
<< Comment #93 @ 20:22 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By US-Michigan eburbeck  - Reply to #34
I'm SO incredibly pleased that YouTube recommended this video as one related to your QL gameplay. That MUST be worth a plus.
<< Comment #122 @ 08:46 CDT, 18 October 2013 >>
By Hungary Gandhi  - Reply to #34
I am sure you could beat a few guys but the point is that noone gives a fvck about you.

You cheated.

Unbanning you would be a bad message for all the other cheaters out there.
<< Comment #125 @ 03:29 CDT, 19 October 2013 >>
By Exelent nex1  - Reply to #122
It already happened with ZeroQL.
At least Zhu could be able to provide great entertainment, as he has showed to be higly skilled.
<< Comment #20 @ 06:54 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
Voted yes just because yes is winning and with my additional +1 yes the result of this vote will obviously be final and a form of empirical evidence to getting zhu unbanned and admitted into the dreamhacke QL masters tournament.
<< Comment #21 @ 07:48 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By inuyasha8 sonic 
Edited by sonic at 07:48 CDT, 9 October 2013
<< Comment #92 @ 20:14 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By US-Michigan eburbeck  - Reply to #21
H1tllersen?
<< Comment #22 @ 09:17 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By cooller skint 
Is this like that time someone from ESR got invited to a Q4 LAN?
<< Comment #45 @ 13:47 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By inuyasha8 sonic  - Reply to #22
I wonder who you could be talking about.
<< Comment #23 @ 09:29 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By Plusme ins 
Is Zhu the guy who makes my ESR be filled with "Ignored user threads"?
<< Comment #115 @ 03:17 CDT, 17 October 2013 >>
By QW tbone  - Reply to #23
Yes.

I have the same problem.
<< Comment #24 @ 10:00 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By ql PopeJo 
zhu should compete in shutting up and moving along.
<< Comment #25 @ 13:38 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By Estonia MailmanMel 
Who?

First time I've ever come across that name.
<< Comment #26 @ 13:47 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By LOLBARN xero- 
Nope, nope.... actually.... NOPE!
<< Comment #27 @ 17:36 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By Israel no_il 
Depends on sign ups IMO. I don't think it would be fair if zhu gets his spot on the expense of one of new up and coming duel player who are dedicated, someone like 'sothis' for example (just used sothis as an example since he mentioned in another thread that he is interested to attend and he has yet to receive an invite).
If the choice comes down to be between zhu and some random swede who came to spec and wasn't even planning on playing at all then I have no problem with it.

I do not see how it would be possible to let him attend if he's still banned from QL though. If a certain player has been banned from the game itself (for cheating in a competition with prize money on the line) then I do not think a certain tournament admin should be able to by-pass his official ban.

So while in theory I have no problem with zhu competing on lan their are certain issues that I believe cannot just be overlooked.
<< Comment #37 @ 01:08 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By DoublePlus 24  - Reply to #27
Just use him as a backup. He already said he'd go no matter he played or not. And people always drop out last minute to be replaced by 1200 elo Swedes. So having Zhu as a replacement would be a good idea. But first we need to...

#freezhu
<< Comment #53 @ 02:40 CDT, 11 October 2013 >>
By Exelent nex1  - Reply to #27
it wouldn't be the first time someone banned does this, and Zhu is on another level of skills.
He could bring way more than ZeroQL to us.
<< Comment #28 @ 17:41 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By yesh its SEAN CONNERY! megaman3 
Is zhu shadowmaster155?
<< Comment #29 @ 18:15 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By Belize danstar 
naah, no parole.
<< Comment #30 @ 18:23 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By shaftwhores only by [EXE]dann c3rb 
Isn't it supposed to be a serious website ?

This guy doesn't deserve half of the attention he's been receiving. If you really want to do him a favour, set up a Paypal page for people to donate so he can finally afford the shrink and the therapy he needs. No hate involved whatsoever, but this is seriously getting ridiculous.
<< Comment #31 @ 18:29 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By bloody eyeball by hatelull melechesh  - Reply to #30
Isn't it supposed to be a serious website ?

Edited by quake is potat at 18:32 CDT, 9 October 2013
<< Comment #38 @ 03:57 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By Germany - Bayern mouse*  - Reply to #31
you must have a giant folder with random pictures named "for classic ESR moments" so tired of plussing your shit.
<< Comment #49 @ 18:19 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By bloody eyeball by hatelull melechesh  - Reply to #38
that giant folder is called google images
<< Comment #142 @ 14:12 CDT, 29 October 2013 >>
By LeXeR gisele  - Reply to #38
Haha, I know right!
<< Comment #39 @ 08:50 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By US-Kentucky ggnore  - Reply to #31
lmao what
<< Comment #43 @ 12:34 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By shaftwhores only by [EXE]dann c3rb  - Reply to #31
Oh, hello.
<< Comment #94 @ 20:24 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By US-Michigan eburbeck  - Reply to #31
i'm stashing that image to use next time there's a post relating to the player leakleakleak
<< Comment #32 @ 19:15 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By ql ogdiabz  - Reply to #30
People have given up on that idea.
<< Comment #33 @ 19:23 CDT, 9 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #30
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #42 @ 12:33 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By shaftwhores only by [EXE]dann c3rb  - Reply to #33
Yes, or you could need a lot of shrinks.
<< Comment #52 @ 02:29 CDT, 11 October 2013 >>
By Exelent nex1  - Reply to #30
stopped reading after serious
<< Comment #95 @ 20:25 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By US-Michigan eburbeck  - Reply to #52
didn't readed
<< Comment #36 @ 00:17 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By SC_Terran Venim 
fuck it why not
<< Comment #40 @ 11:37 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By zerg esdf 
voted yes cause i'm tired of this "i'm so good" and "unban me" bullshit, go to dh, show us what you got or gtfo.
<< Comment #44 @ 12:58 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #40
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #41 @ 12:12 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By Croatia Makie 
freezhu
<< Comment #46 @ 14:20 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By Earth Heartlesss  - Reply to #41
makie on probation pls
<< Comment #48 @ 18:14 CDT, 10 October 2013 >>
By Germany - Bayern mouse*  - Reply to #46
almost plussed heartsomething
<< Comment #50 @ 01:57 CDT, 11 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #48
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #54 @ 03:05 CDT, 11 October 2013 >>
By Exelent nex1 
Why public poll? I personally have no problems to say that i'm interested to see how good would you be against the pros, but a lot of other peoples could feel ashamed to vote yes and scared of what others could think of them.
I don't see a particular reason to justify making it a public poll.
<< Comment #56 @ 03:16 CDT, 11 October 2013 >>
By Unset 37306  - Reply to #54
Edited by TheEMCEra at 03:52 CDT, 11 October 2013
<< Comment #55 @ 03:15 CDT, 11 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #54
Deletion requested by user.
Edited by Zhu at 03:16 CDT, 11 October 2013
<< Comment #57 @ 10:57 CDT, 11 October 2013 >>
By ogcsad Serious 
^3 ZHU ZHU ZHU
<< Comment #58 @ 12:57 CDT, 11 October 2013 >>
This site has become a barren land with tumbleweed going over. I remember when this site was more than just a safehaven for attention-starved faggots.
<< Comment #59 @ 17:57 CDT, 11 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338 
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #60 @ 00:15 CDT, 12 October 2013 >>
By Germany - Bayern mouse* 
alright it is about 60 to 40 i dont expect any changes, what do we make out of this?
<< Comment #64 @ 12:52 CDT, 13 October 2013 >>
By Switzerland smari  - Reply to #60
the people has spoken
=> unban + invite
<< Comment #65 @ 13:20 CDT, 13 October 2013 >>
By Germany - Bayern mouse*  - Reply to #64
the people are 60 40 thats not overwhelming if you ask me
<< Comment #67 @ 14:05 CDT, 13 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #65
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #61 @ 03:23 CDT, 12 October 2013 >>
Wow, i'm surprised how many actually supports zhu in this. Wtf
<< Comment #62 @ 14:26 CDT, 12 October 2013 >>
By Sweden dubcat 
At first I voted yes because of the entertainment potential in seeing zhu at DH but now I'm contemplating changing my vote to no because of the entertainment I get from watching him cry about how I betray him. This is no easy choice!

Oh btw.. He may or may not have registered more accounts to vote yes himself. Allegedly maybe perhaps.
<< Comment #63 @ 12:25 CDT, 13 October 2013 >>
By Seychelles occultum 
so now beating a good player at some random pub game makes you good enough? :<

1st. i wanna see all those videos they are talking about in the news that made them consider this.

2nd. i want zhu to make a video crying (literally) asking to be free and how depressed he is and how he's in a life or dead situation now because of quake.

3rd. only then i will vote yes.
<< Comment #66 @ 14:02 CDT, 13 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #63
Deletion requested by user.
Edited by Zhu at 14:14 CDT, 13 October 2013
<< Comment #69 @ 19:50 CDT, 13 October 2013 >>
By Seychelles occultum  - Reply to #66
Your exactly what i mean, and average player washed up that will never be good enough to be there with the best.

Everyone knows that beating player A or B at a pub with a fakenick is nothing to be proud of, and doesn't mean sh*t.
Going to sites bragging about it just makes you look even worst.

The only guy i know that used to tryface at pubs was strenx, and if u show me a video of u beating him i will apologize.

Anyways, i think you should rethink your strategies, since your cheat episode you've been bullied around and maybe you like it, since you expose yourself to ridicule situations, but if you don't you should really try to change this.

Like me, i don't really hate your or something, i just felt the need to take 5 min of my day to make fun of someone. Cya later man, hope your dreams come true.
Edited by occultum at 19:50 CDT, 13 October 2013
<< Comment #70 @ 19:58 CDT, 13 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #69
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #71 @ 20:04 CDT, 13 October 2013 >>
By Seychelles occultum  - Reply to #70
anyone in the world?! now that's dellusional, even for you.

Why don't you waste your time doing something else.. like losing your virginity or something, your done in quake move along!
<< Comment #75 @ 08:43 CDT, 14 October 2013 >>
By Sweden Laim  - Reply to #71
*you're
<< Comment #68 @ 18:31 CDT, 13 October 2013 >>
By Lithuania son1dow 
This poll should never even be happening. Furthermore, to consider its results for id would be hypocritical. Quake is about pure competition, and this thread shows that you guys put entertainment first. Many of you come here for the lulz you might say, but that's not an excuse to choose entertainment in a direct confrontation.
<< Comment #72 @ 01:20 CDT, 14 October 2013 >>
By :-]] alb 
#FreeHe4rtl3ss
<< Comment #76 @ 08:45 CDT, 14 October 2013 >>
By Sweden Laim  - Reply to #72
Heartless is actually allowed to compete if i am not mistaken.
<< Comment #73 @ 04:05 CDT, 14 October 2013 >>
By ._o IDontCheat 
Is Quakelive so dead now that you have to bring back banned cheaters to get any games going?

It would be interesting to hear a proper motivation to why people want to see him at DH. Is it because of his uncontested raw natural talant or for the lulz? If it's because of his talant, then fair enough, if it's for the lulz, I would suggest you consider trying to find another victim for your amusement.
<< Comment #78 @ 21:24 CDT, 14 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #73
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #74 @ 07:24 CDT, 14 October 2013 >>
By Sweden trazan_pw 
Why find another victim... He must want to be ridiculed otherwise a person even with just an iq of 40 would not post the things he posts!

He is probably suffering from some medical condition with a slice of mythomania incorporated. If having the most idiotic comments is a qualifying requirement for the DH tournament then by all means let him play! Otherwise just let him sit in his parents basement and be delusional thinking he is the best player in the world at every game he tries !
<< Comment #77 @ 21:22 CDT, 14 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #74
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #80 @ 04:10 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By Sweden trazan_pw  - Reply to #77
The description above is pretty accurate. Don't you have anything better to reply with than that I should be on drugs, which if course is completely inaccurate, as always when it comes to you. You certainly have some sort of medical condition don't you? Also, do you object to my comment about you being compulsive liar?

Oh sorry, you think you are trolling. Let me inform you that when you constantly lie to your internet "friends" day in and day out, it's not trolling. It's lying and people that lie all time is in fact mythomaniacs.

And I don't see why you would be welcome back to quake. You were average and cheated to play with the best. Also, the games are not what they used to be. You coming back now will not prove anything. All the good players, most of them at least, don't play anymore and you even if you were to do good now, you were still mediocre in the prime time. Sorry to say this dude, regardless of what you may think yourself you are still only a mediocre player and had to cheat to try to get people to think you were good. I can't find a single reason to let you play again. Except for the amusement of course. Unfortunately, you are not as amusing as you may think.
<< Comment #81 @ 05:02 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #80
Deletion requested by user.
Edited by Zhu at 05:06 CDT, 15 October 2013
<< Comment #83 @ 06:12 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By Sweden trazan_pw  - Reply to #81
If I'm full of bullshit maybe you can be a good boy and point out where I'm mistaken. Are you saying that you do not lie and "troll" all the time Mr I have 0.1 Billions on the bank?

Or are you saying that you did beat Strenx, Cooller, Av3k, Rapha, Cypher, Dahang, K1llsen, Stermy, Toxjq and fox at their best on stream?

I'm pretty certain we all would know about that by now if that were the case. If not, look you are lying again. Otherwise you have just beaten public heroes on a public server in a game that is dying or am i wrong ?
<< Comment #84 @ 06:26 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #83
Deletion requested by user.
Edited by Zhu at 06:31 CDT, 15 October 2013
<< Comment #85 @ 07:27 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By Sweden trazan_pw  - Reply to #84
I just took 10 players from the top of my head, and im confident that if we speak top 10 players in this game at their peak av3k surly is beating out both p0ni and pavel! Sure you can have evil instead of fox if u want, and take away stermy. Still wont change that you have infact not beaten any of these players in a try hard game (or without WH)! If you had esr would have been flooded with zhumade videos!

Im not speaking about who the top ten is right now at the moment, like i said that is not so intresting cuz the game is dying. Im just saying that you would not stand a chance against any of these if they have been training!

When you were banned you were not good enough to play with the best and I can only assume that was the reason for your cheating. You despreatly want to be acknowledged as a amazing quake player and since you couldn't be that by your own play, you had to cheat. Unfortunately you were caught and banned for that. Realize that you were never anything but a decent player with a loud voice crying to be heard and recognized. Why don't you just move on to a game and a community where you haven't dragged your name into the dirt (yet)!

You are giving me far to much credit, i have only played CA vs noobs for 4 years!
<< Comment #79 @ 02:33 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338 
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #82 @ 05:43 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By Latvia fuzz 
Reminds me of time when W:ET community started to rot.
<< Comment #86 @ 13:38 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338 
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #88 @ 17:41 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By ql SyncError  - Reply to #86
I can have a personal opinion and still choose to listen to poll results that may not match my opinion.

But to the point, I think allowing him to play in a professional competitive tournament is even worse than unbanning him. As I've noted many times in the past zeroql for example was unbanned, but I still advise that no serious organization allow him to participate in their event.

I don't feel that players who play in competition and have been caught cheating, should be allowed to potentially win money. I think they've lost that right the moment they cheated.

I'd love to have a parole system added that allowed cheaters a path towards redemption, but I don't think that should involve letting them win money that is up for grabs by community members who have chosen the right path of playing legit.
<< Comment #89 @ 17:47 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By yesh its SEAN CONNERY! megaman3  - Reply to #88
I can have a personal opinion and still choose to listen to poll results that may not match my opinion.

I don't think zhu will be unbanned and allowed to play because of the poll, despite the possibility of following it if you want to:

1.- The decision is solely yours and the poll isn't mandatory.

2.- Your personal opinion is to not unban him (been for the past two years) and in any case refuse allowing him to play at competitions (replied to post). The poll is about both points.

3.- In the only known case of a personality getting unbanned it was because of your personal opinion, completely against what the community thought at that point (zeroql was at least three times the offender zhu was), which is the opposite of your first paragraph about following the poll.

4.- The poll isn't as clear as the general opinion in zeroql's case. With zhu it is 56 to 44%, whereas with zeroql I don't remember there was a poll but had there been one the results would have been clear, lets say 25 to 75%..


I'm writing this so zhu doesn't get his hopes up. I think he should just do what other former cheaters do, which is circumventing the ban and not cheat again. That allows him to play pubs and competitions, doesn't hurt anyone and doesn't hurt the game as a whole, though it means not being public about what his new alias is.
Edited by megaman3 at 18:32 CDT, 15 October 2013
<< Comment #97 @ 02:20 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By Portugal ProT  - Reply to #89
It was mainly because of ZeroQL's precedent that the poll was as close as it is.
<< Comment #98 @ 05:32 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By United Kingdom FFT  - Reply to #97
I thought it was because everyone wanted to see shit happen. Drama is what keeps this small community together and alive. If not for jamerio, zhu, hitsu and a few others esr and quake would be dead.
<< Comment #100 @ 06:20 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By Sweden Laim  - Reply to #98
Hitsu isn't really that bad. He just have short patience and is a bit of a av3k fanboy.
<< Comment #101 @ 06:54 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By Portugal ProT  - Reply to #98
I thought it was because everyone wanted to see shit happen.

Sure, if some cheater got unbanned, why not unban another just for the entertainment of the mob? ;)
<< Comment #104 @ 07:16 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By Poland Lam  - Reply to #89
With zhu it is 56 to 44%
Correction: 108 players voted "yes".

There's multitude of ESR users like myself who ignore this poll to show how we don't appreciate even joking about unbanning cheaters.

There's multitude of QL players who never visit ESR but have very strong opinion on cheaters.

Real life elections/referendums/citizen petitions always have minimum turnout requirement for this reason. What's the turnout here? 0,1% of active QL players? Laughable :)

(By a funny coincidence, Warsaw had a vote to abolish our president last weekend and we've also "voted" by not attending so the minimum turnout wasn't met.)
<< Comment #107 @ 09:25 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By yesh its SEAN CONNERY! megaman3  - Reply to #104
The "multitude ESR users whoi ignore this poll" is not applicable in this case. This poll is quite representative of this small site that includes the global quake community, with 182 votes.
http://www.esreality.com/?a=polls

"The multitude of QL players who never visit ESR" will not know about zhu's unban, therefore don't care. Same happens with voting map pools and best fragmovie of the year.

99.9% of players won't be affected by the decision, which makes it different than real life elections in which everyone is even if they don't vote. That means in zhu's case there isn't a minimum votes requirement.
Edited by megaman3 at 09:41 CDT, 16 October 2013
<< Comment #108 @ 10:36 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By United Kingdom FFT  - Reply to #107
rather far fetched i would say...
<< Comment #90 @ 18:06 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By shaftwhores only by [EXE]dann lithz  - Reply to #88
Let's sort out this parole system then, wooooh.
<< Comment #96 @ 02:02 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By Sweden tybalt  - Reply to #88
Well said!
<< Comment #99 @ 05:51 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By zerg slayzah  - Reply to #88
We never intend to let cheaters play at Dreamhack Sync. Cheers //Dreamhack admin
<< Comment #109 @ 11:02 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
Bullshit, strenx is playing at dreamhack.


Hypocrite.
<< Comment #112 @ 14:31 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By zerg slayzah  - Reply to #109
Last time I checked he wasent banned in Quakelive atleast
<< Comment #126 @ 07:57 CDT, 19 October 2013 >>
By DoublePlus 24  - Reply to #109
Hahahahaha.
<< Comment #106 @ 08:51 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By Belgium dem0n  - Reply to #88
The thing is it takes Armstrong to have cheated his whole career while robbing the Tour de France titles off potentially other legit riders to get permbanned. Cyclism is much more professionally framed and has strong entities which try and vote for impartial and somewhat right (in terms of justice) decisions.

Quake isn't as big as cyclism and even if zhu had been cheating to win 2 DH's, 3 Quakecon and 1 IEM, it would still not be as big a deal as cheating in a sport such as cyclism.

My point is, not every cheater in cyclism gets permabanned from competing. It took a 5 (?) times winner of Tour de France cheating his whole career to see him banned permanently from competition, and that happened when his career was over anyway...

I think everybody deserves a second chance. I'm not going along those who have this very controversial opinion that those who have cheated once and have been caught are more inclined to cheat again. Quite the opposite in my opinion. Those who have been caught are more likely to not reiterate unless they have no self-esteem or enjoy beeing rejected to the point of masochism.
Edited by dem0n at 08:53 CDT, 16 October 2013
<< Comment #110 @ 11:32 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By Eye of a Reptile ja ja ve ve  - Reply to #106
WORD

btw cyclism? :D
<< Comment #111 @ 13:57 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By Switzerland smari  - Reply to #106
Yes, cyclist are usually banned one or two years if they got caught.
For Contador it was even less if I remember correctly.
<< Comment #113 @ 16:15 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By bloody eyeball by hatelull melechesh  - Reply to #106
but what if zhu cheats on lan? like what if he has this small earpiece with an accomplice telling him where his opponent is or timing items for him? what if he takes betablockers or whatever the fuck it is that gives him an unfair advantage? what if he gives his opponents light food poisoning the night before the games? what if he takes home dollas or even wins after doing all that? WHAT IF


I should totally make a film about that
Edited by quake is potat at 16:15 CDT, 16 October 2013
<< Comment #121 @ 08:36 CDT, 18 October 2013 >>
By fishy [eXodus]  - Reply to #106
They don't get permabanned cos then there wouldn't be any pro-cyclists left.
<< Comment #143 @ 18:46 CST, 10 November 2013 >>
By BBC skulp  - Reply to #106
I thought you were talking about strenx at the beggining. Keepo
<< Comment #149 @ 09:27 CST, 16 February 2015 >>
By US-Kentucky ggnore  - Reply to #106
"The thing is it takes Armstrong to have cheated his whole career while robbing the Tour de France titles off potentially other legit riders "

Anyone who rides in the Tour de France is not legit, lol.
<< Comment #87 @ 17:21 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By United States of America T1E 
whoever votes no in this is a sad git
<< Comment #91 @ 19:07 CDT, 15 October 2013 >>
By ._o ScanX 
The more posts I read from him, the more I'm glad to have voted no
<< Comment #102 @ 07:00 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
These are the reasons why Zhu did get so many yes votes in this poll.

1. Because of what happend with zeroql
2. He is actually really good at the game
3. Because of his strong personality causing alot of drama and funny stuff.


This is just what i think, I can't see any other cheater getting this many yes-votes.
<< Comment #103 @ 07:05 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By Portugal ProT  - Reply to #102
strong personality

lolca
<< Comment #119 @ 18:04 CDT, 17 October 2013 >>
By Seychelles occultum  - Reply to #102
Hi zhu nice to meet you!
<< Comment #105 @ 07:32 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By Exelent nex1 
A solution could be to allow him to compete at dreamhack, and at dreamhack only, without unbanning him;
Also not allowing him to receive moneys, instead redistributing those moneys to other players etc..
I think he'd still be willing to play.
<< Comment #120 @ 06:37 CDT, 18 October 2013 >>
By Seychelles occultum  - Reply to #105
A solution would be him streaming his suicide in a very dramatic way and consequently putting quakelive into the map by the media showing it all over the world.

That would make him famous aswell which would be an achievement for such an attention whore, since he could spend all his life playing and wouldn't achieve such status, due to lack of natural talent and damaged braincells.

So if you really love the game Zhu, do it please, for us and for quake!
Edited by occultum at 06:38 CDT, 18 October 2013
<< Comment #114 @ 23:11 CDT, 16 October 2013 >>
By hearpts endstufe 
Unban him if he can spit a few rhymes about his cruel fate:
The Notorious Z.H.U. - Zhuicidal Thoughts
<< Comment #116 @ 03:43 CDT, 17 October 2013 >>
By Turkey Raist 
voted yes because its a lan and nobody is dumb enough to try out something there, for online however; no mercy no quarter.
<< Comment #117 @ 11:48 CDT, 17 October 2013 >>
By US-Michigan eburbeck 
I feel like he could probably be unbanned by now if it weren't for his fantastic douchery and whining - usually that shouldn't affect a judgement on ban/unban, but after so much douche/whine for so long, I think that's all that's really in debate now.

That being said, cheating is SO FREAKING DUMB and pointless that I feel like if you do it, you deserve to be banned for life. Go play Q3 if you really need a Quake fix, Zhu.
<< Comment #118 @ 18:02 CDT, 17 October 2013 >>
By Seychelles occultum 
Who is this brandan dude and why is he supporting zhu like his life depends on it?

You zhu's boyfriend? Did he hire you as an attorney? I would really like to know..
Edited by occultum at 18:02 CDT, 17 October 2013
<< Comment #123 @ 09:49 CDT, 18 October 2013 >>
By Sweden Laim  - Reply to #118
Maybe zhu is sending him death threats?
<< Comment #124 @ 10:00 CDT, 18 October 2013 >>
By l0wfly funnyb  - Reply to #118
Random troll who just happens to have some authority here.
<< Comment #127 @ 14:04 CDT, 19 October 2013 >>
By Germany Waldi3000 
lets facey: even murderers get out of prison (EU at last).

Everybody deserves a second chance!
<< Comment #128 @ 12:41 CDT, 21 October 2013 >>
By Germany - Bayern mouse*  - Reply to #127
other murderers get executed (u.s. at last)
<< Comment #129 @ 14:58 CDT, 21 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #128
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #130 @ 15:45 CDT, 21 October 2013 >>
By Germany Waldi3000  - Reply to #129
I said "even" ;)
<< Comment #131 @ 18:45 CDT, 21 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #130
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #138 @ 19:56 CDT, 22 October 2013 >>
By ql ogdiabz  - Reply to #131
at least murderers do something substantial
<< Comment #132 @ 20:01 CDT, 21 October 2013 >>
By QuakeLive.cz rindo 
why him ? what he ever did for the community ? zeroql should be ubanned before this CHEATER NOBODY
<< Comment #133 @ 20:16 CDT, 21 October 2013 >>
By Unset 34338  - Reply to #132
Deletion requested by user.
<< Comment #134 @ 04:02 CDT, 22 October 2013 >>
By Seychelles occultum  - Reply to #132
Zeroql was unbanned .. and zeroql IS a cheater and will ALWAYS be. He should never been unbanned, and the fact that he said he used to it to test implies he was looking for financial gain .. which is even worse than what zhu did.

The log between zeroql and syncerror makes it look like quake is a joke..

They should both be thrown into a dark place and never to be seen again!
<< Comment #137 @ 18:52 CDT, 22 October 2013 >>
By Sweden Laim  - Reply to #134
Are you always this much of a bitter fucker?
<< Comment #139 @ 20:15 CDT, 22 October 2013 >>
By WiC puritan  - Reply to #137
Hes not bitter, the whole zeroql story is.
<< Comment #140 @ 03:29 CDT, 23 October 2013 >>
By Sweden Laim  - Reply to #139
Well i was talking about his other posts to. Like hoping zhu kills himself and he seems serious about it. That's why i am asking.
<< Comment #141 @ 11:58 CDT, 23 October 2013 >>
By Seychelles occultum  - Reply to #140
Like you wouldn't pay to see something like that..
<< Comment #135 @ 07:09 CDT, 22 October 2013 >>
By QuakeLive.cz rindo 
but zhu should be trhown there with them at least :P
<< Comment #136 @ 15:47 CDT, 22 October 2013 >>
By Seychelles occultum  - Reply to #135
He's already in a very dark place.. have you ever seen his videos? :(
<< Comment #144 @ 05:00 CST, 2 December 2013 >>
By Belgium dem0n 
lol.
<< Comment #145 @ 06:10 CDT, 27 October 2014 >>
By QLcz Frazer 
hu iz zhu?
<< Comment #146 @ 18:07 CST, 10 February 2015 >>
By 017 Ephemix 
Bumpy bump
<< Comment #147 @ 19:15 CST, 10 February 2015 >>
By koenigsegggggggegegegeg GNiK  - Reply to #146
Ahh, you're the reason this thread is on the top of my list again.
<< Comment #148 @ 02:14 CST, 11 February 2015 >>
By Turkey Raist 
god I remember this shit storm lol
<< Comment #150 @ 23:14 CDT, 14 June 2016 >>
By australia-nsw wem420 
I think its a definet YES after he cum'sd back!
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