In b4 all development at id stops because everyone has to help moderate the forum 24/7.

It's gonna be fun reading through all the same tired debates AGAIN.

[4:21 PM] spawnz: I like to think of Nyx as a strong, independent, SJW barista
[4:21 PM] spawnz: when faced with adversity such as "facts", she becomes invisible, avoiding the argument

Not sure what is worse, the gender thing or tying accuracy to health status. :D

will the beta be available?

they're moving the closed forum to the open public forum since the nda was lifted.
next beta is june 2nd.

Well, technically not "moving" because all the content in the beta forum will be deleted, lost, or inaccessible.

exactly

The games literally dogshit quality to be in open beta

Have you seen the game though?

It feels like someone decided Quakecon is some kind of a deadline that has to be met at all cost.

"No pressure." ;)

agreed, rushing a product in mediocre state is business suicide

But do they rush it though? Closed beta is not an indication of the state of the final product. It is just a snapshot of some limited functionality and no one from outside of Bethesda knows what is the state of their product. You can't judge their progress by closed beta at all.

There is big difference between demo product and beta. Demo version is usually representative of quality of a final product, because it has limited assets and some functions blocked, but it is based on a final source code. Beta on the other hand can be a snapshot of 5% of the product and these 5% can use different code base for debugging and profiling purposes. It's quality is totally irrelevant.

Its easy to label something as "alpha" "beta" "demo", but just labeling it like that doesnt makes it real. If a casual/newb get a sad first impression due to a rushed lifting of NDA and going open, because since the large scale test, its an open beta just named closed, cause anyone can go to quake.com and get a key, theres no going back.

As i posted on the beta forums, you dont have a second chance to make a first impression. NDA lifting and going open should have been when QC was at a real beta (all assets ready, no major technical issues).

QC currently has many major issues:

- Memory Leak
- Bad netcode, lag, warping, projectiles dissapearing, good hits not registering, etc
- WAIT WAIT and more WAITING
- Players on 1mb upload speed or less unable to play (disconnecting issue, 999 issue, etc) due to average 10 TIMES the bandwith requirements of a game with much better netcode like QL
- No tutorials for newbs/casuals that try the game and will never came back
- etc

All this after 7 weeks of beta tests.

Amount of players is very limited, so I don't see first impression as an issue. This is why you have long waiting times to join the game.

Amount of wait was way shorter, players leaving the quake.

There is no player base yet, all beta participants are kinda irrelevant.

LOL yeah right the people most interested in the game, that can create hype, stream, etc is "irrelevant"...

I'd say your posts are irrelevant.

Also tell that to PUBG beta participants, tell them theyre irrelevant. Also in beta, behindn a paywall, and has 50k specs minimum on twitch and zillions of "irrelevant" players...

Players are NEVER irrelevant to a game, NEVER, no matter the state. Playerd ARE the MOST RELEVANT thing to a game.

Mate, if you don't like the game, just play something else, OK? QC is doing just fine.

For that to be the case then the internal build must be way ahead the beta build, that's plagued with technical issues and bad decisions. I hope that's the case, but still is unlikely.

A beta is generally supposed to be feature complete. The term has just been corrupted by marketing usage in the gaming industry.

They obviously still have a LOT of features to add to QC. It is not a beta.

i wonder if pros at quakecon will have to restart qc after each game on stream ))))))

You can be sure about it. Rapha did it extensively with QL that runs MUCH better, imagine with that clusterfuck of a game.

I watched his stream one day and it felt like he was always restarting as he did it after every match thus it was boring to watch...not his fault just what you have to do at this point but it is a bad impression as the reality of our society is that they want everything now...now...now.

I still am waiting to reserve judgement as I remember QL being very similar in the beta stages that drove me nuts half the time to the point where i went back to playing Q3 for a long time. This time I am taking the time to just play the game even if I am tilted sometimes due to the issue currently but I am still playing.

There is much more that needs to be done and I get it takes a long time to achieve these goals so lets try to not judge to quickly. They all know what we want we have been screaming about it on this forums for over a decade now :D

sup easy, my concerns arent about die hard quakers, 1000-5000 players wont make the game succesful anyway. We are too fan and prolly will cope with it till it gets better. Problem is casuals/newbs, we know quake needs lots of new blood to be succesful, and its been a rough start.

So the closed forums are gone, and you CANT create new threads in the new forums. Thats surely what QC needs to become a success! Rubbing problems under the carpet and making like nothing happens is the BULLET PROOF way to make a game succesful!

stfu

looks like gojira wants to shut the QC forum here too

sorry i meant E.S.A.D.

;)

Yeah, the forum is gone now, it seems. All the pages just sit in a loop constantly refreshing themselves. Worst forum software ever.

Someone call p0rt.

:D