I thought fox played with reason gaming?

he did, but hasn't touched quake in months, and never even played an official with Reason :)

seems eu wont have ctf team at all next qcon :/

And you won´t participate with LLL*? :\

lol no :)

wow, this sucks for the CTF scene, but is good for TDM? I dunno

err... It's good for the ctf scene... Dno what you just came up with ;)

well, the only CTF I ever see on LAN is at QuakeCon, an iirc, [R] hasn't been sending people to QCon...

Fucking Legend will come to quakecon. 2 Dutch, 1 German, 1 Australian, EU enough for you? :)

I'm going to laugh if QuakeCon announces TDM.

more information please.

If there is ctf, me+blad3+sol4r+calipt will attend ( formerly broken/yoyotech)

fnatic is FAR FAR FAR away from what europe could give to any international ctf tournament man... trust me... If i'd have to pick a ctf eu dreamteam, i'd only have linkin in the eu all star team from fnatic, maybe spartie aswell cause hes a great defender and teamplayer... ;)

keep going, tell us your EU allstar lineup!

gerppa x 4

Nah, only x3 required!

yes please

who

I thought all he wanted to say is that fnatic has been the only EU team at QCON for quite a while now.
With them being gone, who will represent Europe at QCON?

It would be great if teams like bf, dp and broken made it, but who's gonna pay for that?

well. fucking is kindof broken :p

huh?

are you talking about "broken" being broken? Or "fucking legend" being broken? What exactly is the latter anyway?

hihi

ahhh, I get it now. :D

So "fucking legend" = you, solar, blade and ?

scroll up

yeah, I had asked this question before clampOK explained it.

fnatic folds, 4Kings fold...seems like the upcoming DH TDM tournament has stirred some pots!

Maybe this will help other teams strenghten and make it even more exciting in summer.

gl Dave

what happened with 4k and did their members form/merge with other teams?

From what I know, v3rb and zik want to make a polish TDM team for DH with Av3k and co. That was the beginning of the end I guess. Sad.

I too would like to know the back story of this "4Kings folding". I hope to see more krysa somewhere.

http://www.tek-9.org/news/4kings_rumoured_to_have_split-3590.html

Pretty sure Shadows was their cpm team

t5 is an oldschool polish team (krogoth! :P), zik played with them vq3 and cpm

Linkje keep up the media work :)

Tox to Rage gaming next?

Next!

That sure is a strong line-up. It's sort of sad to see two great TDM teams just vanish because of a few roster changes. There are always players looking to prove themselves in the upper echelons of Quake. It just takes a bit of searching.

David "deus" Kinnaird
Dan "ddk" Kapadia

They obviously planned this so everyone will do D-D-K and confuse each other on which one they mean. Clever Brits.

D e D u K s
e
D
u
K
s

well something at fnatic had to change, either the player had to find motivation again and take tdm seriously or there had to be roster changes...

sad to see 4K split though :( but in the end we get 2 great teams out of it :)

i wouldn't be so sure of 4k actually splitting, don't wanna go into details but it should be pretty obvious what happened.

dreamhack costs money and the situation for tdm teams is still dire (in part 'cos of esl not paying imo), we should be happy that those players seem to want to attend no matter what. here's hoping for great games at dh.

well i have no inside knowledge but reading stuff like this...

the mater, March 9th, 2011 at 00:49
Antworten | Zitieren | #3
[23:35] well dozer said we quit 4kings without telling us anything
[23:35] then ppl started fighting
[23:35] what was problem?
[23:35] ye polish fucks :)
[23:36] polish fuckers want to play with avek on DH
[23:36] and then they dont like DK
[23:36] and then dozer and dk had a fight
[23:36] and then i dunno
[23:36] :)

we will see. i hope we do see 4K and the polish team at dh. would be a nice grudge match aswell :)

there's no grudge, just some random late night irc rage when things don't go as planned.

as i said, i'm hoping for good games at dh and everything else will sort itself out sooner or later (later being at dh).

I soooo knew it :x

one of the best tdm players out there, if not the best. grats to both R and deus \o/

Nice!

GL HF Deus!

nice. now u can sit noctis when hes emo

always then?

oh my

It seems clear to me that link1n may join krysa & company to form a new team.

I think duel needs some changes and it's good that TDM is becoming bigger. If duel were the only part of Quake Live, it's not going to last because we've seen most of the possibilities already played out.

So....CTF and TDM FTW!

4kings may have so called split but it's still 4kings.
Just different guys.
Krysa, DK, anak1n and jocko are still a solid team and who knows, maybe we can finally have l1nkje officially joining them.

They're now playing as The mofos and The Shadows. Moreover, an all polish team with Zik, Verb and Avekkk doesn't seem to cut it. They still haven't confirmed the remaining 2 players though.

Uh, TDM is 4v4?

It seems they already found their fourth.

1st v3rbalizah 47 50 13 8946 3748 30% 19:59 6 2nd zik_ 45 45 43 8112 6323 33% 19:59 4
3rd Avekkk 39 41 34 7027 5866 30% 19:59 2
4th _wEst 32 33 41 6322 6061 36% 19:59 2

Won't they have a reserve player, like Reason Gaming's lineup?

Also, avekkk featured in a TDM tourney before and was terrible.

How was he terrible? He did most damage on his team both maps iirc

True, but failed to convert them to kills for his team. Also iirc, poland lost that match. Don't quite remember who it was against though.

Edit: It was against France with Strenx and Linkje both playing.

Denmark and iirc he was also top fragger on his team

hes been playing great for poland in the nations cup lately

He didn't play well for fline imo but he did well for poland.
Fline seemed strongest with the lineup of abso, wit, dash and foppa.

In EU, TDM teams must have more than 6 players to be taken serious.That's why [R]eason is all a joke : )

jokes on you!

Ye they have you and FB as cheerleaders

NO JOKE I TELL YA

well if facebook is cheering for them then they're good as gold.

having fb's dog as a cheerleader will make any team unstoppable.

doesn't seem to cut it?

verb + zik + avek + west is a great team.

idd

Let the drama begin!

Fisted by deus <3

Indeed. Fucking amazing movie. Made me a Deus fanboy infact!

linkme

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fisted+by+dues

*deus :D

didn't want to make it too easy for him.

didn't know the movie name was that lol :<

I dunno about you, but sticking the word fisted in google doesn't often come up with relevant answers

even the first hit of "fisted by dues" is the video at own3d. :b

It's not for me. Maybe because I spelled Deus correctly

when googling for "fisted by deus", the result is even better.

1st hit: youtube vid
2nd and 3rd hit: planet-videos
4th hit: own3d
5th hit: soundtrack
6th hit: ESR post

I don't think you understood my post... I wasn't saying it wouldn't bring up the video, just that sticking fisted into google search doesn't often come up with what you expect (or rather, it does)

That's what you wanted to say with #112. I understood that, of course.

And even though it may certainly be true in many cases, it isn't in this one. That's all I wanted to say.

#114 appears to be BS now.

Fatboy Slim Rockafella Skank and Nirvana? :D
CLASSY!!!

the lack of team game competition in QuakeLive forces us to make some decisions and unfortunately, this is the reason my mate deus and I are leaving the QL squad of fnatic.

yeah sure... its not like a big tdm lan is coming up or anything

this one made me laugh, too.

"deus and I have to leave because there are no tournaments. Also, deus will join [R], who recently beat fnatic badly, so that he has better chances of winning the upcoming TDM LAN. And I'll surely also find a better TDM team than fnatic."

always been the same way with tdm/ctf. big tourney comming up, some ppl feel like they can win with team X, they join team X.

good for them.

What about doing something similar to the model what Australians have done to support their fella dandaking?

Since #qlpickup.eu is pretty active, the CTF NationsCup and the HOQ league too, I wonder if it´s doable to open a CTF-competition, where each team pays a small entrance fee, and the winning team, receives additionally some donations. The prize money (including donations) will then be used to pay the expenses of the travel of the team to the QuakeCon CTF tournament.

Looking for CTF clan.

Only difference is that Dandaking is one guy, where as you need to pay for four players to play in a SINGLE ELIMINATION tournament. (risk of failing is high).

4000-5000 euro to cover everything for that team. Doubt that is easy to get without a sponsor paying most.

And holding an open tournament now to select a team would be utter crap :p Every one plays the same and it would not be about team performance, but more individual skill. Would at least need a proper time frame where teams can prepare.

Too much basically to figure out without a decent sponsor backing you up. You won't have any solid arrangements if that is not the case and rely on community effort to raise such an amount. I would love to see it happen though, but it's unrealistic at this point :O

yeh single-elim with quakecons seedings is a risk

long way to go for only a couple of matches too

hoq lan ftw!

hold a CTF LAN in europe and make EG come over here = $$$

Or that way! :D

Yeah. 4-5kEUR may even be somewhat of a conservative estimation for the costs.

I doubt that with the current amount of money in QL sponsorships, any EU team (k1ck, broken, bface, etc) is going to travel there. The best realistic option I see would be some sponsored duel players with CTF experience making a mixteam (spartie, sc00t, draven, calipt/linkin?)

It's been done before. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9IuXXvIoFY&t=57s

wow, why is this so uncomfortable to watch?

that was a good effort from the ET community but afaik ATI payed most of the expenses for the crossfire team

On a semi-related note, there were more European teams at QuakeCon in those years.

In 2005, both Check 6 and idle.ee (two Estonian teams) were sent to Quakecon, plus in 2006 idle.ee (in addition to crossfire.nu) as well. I have no idea who paid for it though, but I imagine sponsors threw a lot more money around before the economic crisis.

The European teams at Qcon 2006 were idle, Crossfire and KiH

nice, gl deus and l1nkje

raisin gaming eh

After a nearly 2 year hiatus cherubim strikes back with the addition of fazz :P

-fox :/

at least he is idling in the chan ;p

nice. now u can sit noctis when hes emo

I bet 4Kings thing is only temporary, I see zik and verb coming back to the team after DH Summer. Let's not fool ourselves, it's not like there will be a TDM boom right after DH, sadly it's probably the only serious lan with TDM that QL will get in years :x

Even without zik and verb, krysa, jocko, dk and anak1n are still a good team. If they can get linjke to play regularly for them, those 5 would still be a powerful team and not to be underestimated.

It's more like 2 members of 4kings decided to leave rather than 4kings splitting up.

nice, gl deus and liefje

LAWL

*i see what you did there, and I was amused.

thats old news, dollface

i thought linkje is 4kings TDM and aAa ctf :D

I have a feeling It is going to be Reason vs ice climbers final at dreamhack.

Toxjq is playing with gopher and phantom some times. Fox will drop from reason and join back with them.

Full power toxjq and fox are enough to carry, however gopher unrusted with phantom will destroy you guys.

Just sayin'

AFAIK toxic talked with fox about DH Summer already and fox said that in those dates he cannot participate so it's quite unlikely that we're gonna see them :-c

Toxjq has been playing with linkin alot, maybe linkin will team up with toxjq for dh?

toxjq, link1n, krysa, dk

$$$

killerteam
sadly its pure speculation :|

i heard they roster will be tox, gopher, linkin and stermy

toxjq said so too

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&am...ID%3D16303

seeing as fnatic never prac or take part in the majority of the tourneys this is a good thing..

with the 4k split we will see reason / rage finals for the forseeable future though as neither of the new teams formed will be strong enough to challenge top2..

rage isn't near top 2 in my book.

Nice book you got there.

4kings isn't really split as you make it out to be that rage/reason are automatically the top 2 teams now.
The mofos lineup is still a strong 4kings lineup but linjke would really add something to that lineup.

what is this? i dont even ....

dan seems to go pro now..haha