Maybe you should try cyanide yourself.

[ - ] not even close to funny

I wasnt trying to be funny.

Scary, I was just reading this comment and chewing my pen top when I forgot that 3 hours ago I used it to stir some iodine for my dogs paw. Now I got the taste all in my mouth and I missed teh PC ZONE FFA cut by two frags cuz jabbor screwed me with 1 SG shot to my 3 and I suicided at the end. Thanks for the negative carma!

Serves you right for that shameless bad idea dropping.
But to avoid that you should have taken the pi....... wait.

I lol'd irl. :x

Take Good Care of Yourself and Others

"Sometimes I think of my life as divided into ages, like the ages
in the rocks. The age of light was when I was small and things were
simple. In the age of air we lived in the orbital, and air was the
most important thing in the world. Then we came back down, and there
was an interregnum, a time between ages. And after that my ages merged
with the ages of everyone else, and there was the time of troubles, and
the time of miracles, one following the other but also all mixed
together and stretching off into the future, until now."

Austin is sitting in the main room in his small house. The house is
on an open hilltop, and when the windows are open the breeze passes
right through the room, ruffling his papers and moving his hair on
his head. He writes in the morning. In the afternoon, if it isn't
raining, he puts on one of his two sweaters and his vest, and walks
out onto the hilltop and down into the woods around the hill.

The land stretches away from the house and the hilltop, far in all
directions. Off to the west there are low rounded mountains against
the sky. A stream, a small river, comes down from the mountains and
flows through the valley to the west of the hill. It curves around the
hill to the north, where the valley is steeper and darker, and
off to the east. Somewhere to the east, off beyond the horizon,
Austin imagines the sea.

The land is light green all around, with patches of yellow and
patches of darker green. The sky is high and blue and, especially
at dawn and twilight, misty forms and faces move immensely across
it. Giants and demons and gods run from horizon to horizon, or
stand and ponder, or gesticulate emphatically at each other. In
the world there is Austin, and the house, and the giants, and the
hills and mountains and woods, and nothing else.

-=-

I remember, in the age of light, lying and looking at a sunbeam
coming through a window. It was a small narrow window, with the
sill painted yellow, in the corner of my bedroom. The light fell
on the top of a brown wooden stool, with carved legs, that sat on
the floor of the room. I was lying there on my stomach, and there
were dust motes moving in the light.

The dust motes were important to me, I remember. Or not so much
important as fascinating. They were the thing that I was looking at
and paying attention to. The thing that I was focused on. And I
wasn't conscious of paying attention to them; I was young, and still
only aware of things, and not so much aware of being aware of them.

The motes were moving in the light, and I felt that I was looking into
another world. They moved according to their own rules and their own
patterns, and those rules and patterns had nothing to do with the
rules and patterns that applied to me. But I might be able to do that
eventually, later, when I was big. Being a dust mote and circling in
the air with the other motes, caught in a sunbeam, was well within the
space of things that I might eventually do, later. And studying them
I remember I felt glad that there was this thing here, for me to
watch and pay attention to. Or, no, I wasn't glad about that, I was
just glad, lying in the sun and being glad, not glad about anything,
just happy and lying there and attending to the dust.

The motes looped and danced in air currents too small for me to feel.
I made up games about them, or stories about them, and came to care
about them. I don't remember if I cared about certain ones, or if
it was more the patterns that I cared about, waiting breathlessly
for a particular pattern to repeat, for one of the motes to dash
between two others and then come close to a third in just that same
way again, and then again. There was a language in the patterns of
the moving dust, a language with its own words and sentences and
jokes, and being young and in the age of light my mind was still
reaching out into the world for languages and patterns.

I lay there watching the dust and I was hungry. I said I was hungry,
but nothing happened, so I said it again. And her footsteps came down
the hallway and she came in, big and fragrant and patient, and asked
me what I wanted to eat. I watched the dust motes and I answered her.

Did her coming make a wind in the room, that blew the dust away or
blew more dust in? Not that I remember. The dust was in another world,
attached to this world only by my eyes and attention.

No, I didn't want toast. Or an apple. And I didn't want crackers with
cheese. And I didn't want water. I was so happy, watching the dust and
hearing her list all the things that I might eat, and saying no to them
because she would always list the things that I didn't want first. And
I didn't want bread with butter, but yes I did want a peanut butter and
jelly sandwich, and I didn't want root beer, but I did want ginger ale.

And so her footsteps went away, her voice humming softly under her
breath, and again one of the dust motes moved in just that way again,
and I was very glad.

-=-

Austin stops writing in the morning when he feels hungry. There is an
icebox in the smaller room of the house, by the bed, and when he feels
hungry in the morning he takes from it some bread and cheese, or a piece
of fruit, and sits out on the single step in front of the door of the house.
The sun rises high in the middle of the day, but not to the zenith. While
he eats, Austin watches the shadow of the house on the grass and the mossy
rocks that surround the house.

When he is done eating he stands and goes into the house. There is a
small sink with running water where he rinses the plate, if he has been
using a plate, and puts it in a rack beside the sink to dry. He goes
to the chest of drawers and takes out a sweater, the smooth dark red
one or the grey-white one with the twining cable stitching, and pulls
it on over his head. Sometimes he pauses with the sweater over his
face, in the tight warm dimness. If it is cold enough, he puts his
vest on over the sweater.

Then he takes his walking stick from where it is propped against the
wall just inside the door, and walks away from the house, down the hill.

Sometimes it rains on the hilltop and the house. The rain comes mostly
from the west, as thick bright clouds crossing the sky slowly and
steadily, with blurred legs of rain reaching down to the hills. Or
sometimes it comes quickly from the north, bringing chill stinging
rain that cuts into the earth and flows loudly down between the hills,
cutting the ravine deeper and steeper at the north side of the house.

If it rains at night or in the early morning, the woods are still wet
when Austin goes out the next day, and the wind shakes drops down out
of the trees into his head. He has no hat.

Here is Austin in the afternoon of a bright warm day, down under the
north side of the hill, where the water runs. He leans back against
a night-cool stone, looking up through the branches. Dim outlines
against the sky, two giants pace along the horizon. They are lions
in the shape of men, broad-shouldered and mane-haired, with swords
belted at their waists. When he closes his eyes he can still see
them, walking sentry, or hunting, or stalking each other across the
dome of the air.

-=-

It's raining today, so I'm just sitting here at the table, writing
into the afternoon. It's still strange to be writing with a pen on
a pad of paper, and stranger that my hand never gets tired. Stranger
yet, I suppose, that the strangeness doesn't bother me much.

The rain hides any of the gods that might be up there today. Which is
just as well. I think I saw my mother, or something like my mother,
up there last night, at twilight.

At first I was planning to tell my story in order, from the beginning
to the end. One age at a time, from my earliest memories of dust motes
and light and sandwiches, to the age of troubles and miracles and finally
to now.

But there's no reason to tell it in order. There may be no reason to
tell it at all. The gods may be taking care of everything that needs
to be taken care of. But I hate to think that I matter that little.
So I'll sit here every day and write, but I'll tell the story in whatever
order comes to mind.

And now that I put it that way it's obvious, isn't it, that that's
exactly what I ought to be doing, if this project makes any sense
at all.

I was a woman, more than once, in the age of miracles. I liked being
a woman. I liked the physicality of it; having a woman's body, a
woman's sense of smell. There were people, of course, who said that
it wasn't really being a woman, that being a man all my life and then
changing into a woman for a month or a year had so little to do with
the experience of actual women that it didn't even deserve the name.
But still.

I was one of the first, they told me, the first time that I did it.
But I was fairly typical. I spent alot of time playing with my body,
standing in front of the mirror, masturbating, trying on clothes.
A woman's orgasm is a wonderful thing. But I didn't like sex all
that much.

Later in the age of miracles the lines blurred entirely, and we were
making up new sexes as often as we were trying on the old ones. But
that was when everything had begun to crack, and people weren't sure
who they were anymore, let alone what sex they'd started out. At
least that's how I remember it. But it may have been only me.

-=-

There is a shovel in the dimmest corner of the house's small room.
Austin considered it part of the decor, a bit of backdrop. Then
one day, after a particularly hard morning rain, he stepped out
into the wet grass and felt the earth soft under his boot, and he
thought of the shovel.

He went into the back room and lifted it out of its corner. It was
a small shovel, more of a spade, with a smoothly curving blade of dull
silver metal, and a wood and metal handle sturdily made. It looked
used but clean, and Austin smiled, testing its weight with one hand.

The wet ground gave easily under the shovel blade, the roots of the
grass parting and the water pooling around the intruding metal.
The earth was dense but pliable, like compacted powder with a
sprinkling of fine white stones. Austin took a small handful of
it and raised it to his face, smelling its darkness and looking at
the whiteness of the pebbles in the brown soil. He rolled it
between his palms, allowing the dirt to fall back down to the
ground and separating out a dozen of the pebbles. He put them
into his pocket, propped the shovel inside the door, and walked
off down the hill.

*yawn*

do you really think someone is gonna read that comment?:p

People will + it because its so long though :D

Sheep i tell you. :)

lol :)

"I was a woman, more than once, in the age of miracles.", caught that with a short look at the huge beast of a comment. Just HAD to read it all

not a bad idea actually. although you'd probably get people shouting "forfeit" as soon as someone goes five frags up.

gg spec is better than gg quit imo anyway.

Yeah, that's why I was thinking maybe it would only be allow in the final 4 mins and ONLY then if there was a 8+ frag difference or some = defeceit.
You could even do something clever with it and work out the avg frags per min and add those on top of the winning players score (if opponent quits) so its not overly encouraged to be used, just at times when things are bad and you want out without being lame.

*EDIT*
Someone delete the trolls text above please (and no I don't mean mine:P)

/resign

Resigns: Realizing the hopeless nature of a position and not wanting to insult the intelligence of the opponent, a player can surrender the game (resign) without having to wait for a checkmate.

Resignation occurs in the vast majority of tournament games, while actual checkmates are quite rare.
http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_glossary/gl...s_q_r.html


Good idea.
It wouldn't have to throw you right to spec, it could just go to the regular end-game screen.

I don't get it, how would you know you couldn't win if you didn't finish the game? It's like Liverpool winning the Champions League they were down 3-0 at half time against AC Milan not even the most devout Liverpool fan thought they could win but they managed to scrape back to 3-3 with just 3 mins to spare then won on penalties. People do strange things under pressure it can bring out the best.

Agreed, it could quench crazy comeback games, but most of the time such things dont happen, so it is up to the player to decide.

sometimes it's just not possible to make a comeback so big. eg. even if the winning player went afk, or even let you kill him constantly for the rest of the game you wouldn't be able to get enough frags to make a comeback. this would be a situation for THEPILL! :)

tell that to lexer, fatal1ty and janus :P 9 frags 3 minutes NO PROBLEM!!!

Also tell it to Ztrider. I think it was him. Craziest comback I've seen. Was during the WT.

I haven't actually watched many of the WT games to be honest, other than the final, I didn't have a computer at the time.

Too bad. Maybe the stream of it is saved somewhere. Ztrider had an insane comback in a match, but I don't remember the map nor who the opponent was ;) I think it was about 9 frags in a minute or something.

I would recommend LeXeR vs chaoticz at QCON2002 on pro-q3dm6, it's thought of by many to be the best q3 game recorded. That's if you haven't seen it :)

I think I've seen it. Gonna check later.

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=869402

:)

iirc was 7 frags in the final minute on dm-absinthe at cpl sweden vs stermy

Ah ok :) Still pretty good =) Was a blast to watch it :D

yea, was my favourite moment from the WT

well, that and fat moaning about his PC and getting it swapped at CPL UK after losing 2 or 3 maps to Vo0 :)

Hehe.
I missed the ztrider-stermy moment in sweden cause I was outside chilling ;(

If you give up you give up. It shouldn't be a problem that players are stopping when they know they can't make a comeback. Walking away from the seating is understandable, but if they are sitting at the comp and just throwing the game away it shouldn't matter. It's like telling a winning player not to start laying back and smiling when he knows he's won. urgh, or something like that. :)

I think it's a great idea.
Also it would make the waiting line go quicker on public servers.

what waiting line?

hehe... Quake 3 still has enough players for there to be a 45min+ spectator que in a 1v1 server.

dude, this is the Quake 4 Forum.

:>

Opps I didn't realise. :P

I think brain like to subconsciously deny the existence of Quake 4.

Quitting has benefits anyway, it creates some drama. I remember the long threads about if-22 and his disconnecting, and fox telling lexer "be a man" when he wanted to end the game early.

/quit FTW

Yeah implement a cyanide pill and then wait for Jack Thompson to sue the game company after some kid commits suicide, for playing a suicide simulator.

gg.

Ok, that is enough Breaking the Habit for you =x

interesting idea

i personally dont think itd be good

andi aint explaining why

lol, how is a quit pill different from a disconnect? honourable? rofl. we all know suicide is the honorable way out. :P well, maybe in japan... ;)

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=927164#pid927164

You're right there is no positive way to quit, but as the guy said, its better to quit in good faith than just disconnect from the server as a lot of people will do.

wocK_ would od on those pills

lol

R to the OFL!

comebacks are one of the most exctiting things to watch, that idea would be nice but with a difference of 15+frags

Not plausible nor necessary.

what if it was a group stage or suming and the frags count is important to a player and the loser quits and there for a differnt guy goes thou where as if the game was played out there woiuld have been more frags and a differnt guy would have gone thou. lol @ me, wanabe jamerio post. , r for pussys

thats a very good point there mate, if it goes to a tie and there is fragdifference then someone playing a quitting lame would get the shaft through no fault of their own.

bad idea.

Fragdifference is a lame way to decide who does and doesn't progress in a tournament. If the person you're tied with played an agressive player, and you played a defensive player, then you get screwed through no fault of your own.

You do know what a group stage is don't you?

If you are going to give up anyway why not just play on and use the time to work on what was failing you. You may not be able to win the map but you could easily use the time left to work on rocket aim or something.

while i agree with you that you'll never improve without completing matches against better players, it sometimes does happen that you're not in the right frame of mind to carry on.

granted, i live for comebacks. if i'm 30-0 down and get five frags in the last minute i'm stoked, but that's not the situation being discussed.

quitting and leaving the other guy with "match aborted, not enough players" or whatever almost cheats the guy out of a victory, and other people on the server immediatly think wtf, '/quit lamer'. at least a forfeit concedes defeat without the negative connotations.

like jamerio said, add frags to the winner if neccessary to avoid abuse, but giving the option sounds like a good idea to me.

If you are talking about just online play I don't see how this would really change much as most of the quitters play under "unamedplayer" or other aliases anyway and would still quit.

different environments perhaps. where i am (south africa) it's a pretty tight community where everybody knows everybody pretty much.

it's just an option, and a theoretical one at that. the 'unnamedplayers' etc. aren't really part of the problem being addressed. online gaming is more than just kills, wins/losses for me.

anyway, not disagreeing, just clarifying my opinion on the matter.

Yeah but it is obviously very different situation in EU/NA etc. I don't have a problem with it being put in but it is also not exactly fair for the guy who is winning. (maybe a callvote at the start?)

agreed. not to be used in high-profile matches.

the if22 way, or you could try pulling a lexer !

horrrrrribbbbbllllllleeeeee idea tbh

\team s :P

I'm lost for words. Just no. Bad.

Next idea: Instant win pill.

Haha yes the win instantly button!

was too lazy to read all of the above comments. i thought of this idea in q3. sometimes a random noob would join and u could rape him senseless, neither player would want to continue, so usually someone would call a vote for the tl to be less than what it already was, e.g. 5 if it was a 10 min game. only real problem this would cause is that the tl for the following game would be 5 mins. no big deal really. but to make things more "professional looking" i thought a "/callvote gg" command would be perfect. i even typed it in one game thinking the OSP developers would have thought of it ;) if this system is used it gives both players the opportunity to choose if they want to continue, which is fair. it also avoids ppl the embarresment of having to disconnect (unless of course the 'raper' chooses not to gg) would be cool also if the game plays a "humiliation" sound file after a "gg" has been successfully voted on ;)

it has also occured to me that i have given this too much thought xD better get back to work :P

would be cool with just a callvote gg, text comes up and says gg on the screen and the next player in turn gets in etc as normal

I like the idea callvoting a GG. Not with the humiliation sound after though :)

Rage quitting / forfeiting is for pub duels, not competition.

Suicide in RTCW / ET is tactical - it can be lame in 1v1 firefights when the /killer is like 15 seconds from spawn, but the fact remains you play the game until the time runs out, even if youre going to lose. That should be the same of any game, because it shows good sportsmanship.

/killing in wolf isnt comparable to quitting a duel, at all.

I think we've all been in a situation where things are just going wrong and you want the game to end ASAP.

We have indeed, but the fear of that situation which motivates a lot of people to train harder and play harder. Dealing with that situation and not giving into it is also a fantastic attribute in a player. Driving on against the odds or just trying to keep warm or work a comeback is admirable, and its what separates the men from the boys.

best strat at times like this is to just leave your computer and put a rock on the F2 key :)

are you really this much of an idiot ;o

what are you on about idiot? this is a good idea. Games are very often decided around the 10 minute mark. I (and plenty others I play with) often feel like it's a timewaste, but noone wants to quit/vote a new map/vote restart in an official game, because it will look unpro.

a quit is a quit...
i really fail to see the difference

play to the end, or dont.. if its a timewaste, then /quit.
why does everyone care so much what people think about that? oh no, he quit once in a duel, hes such a lamer...

are people really that petty?

yes people are really that petty. Something built ingame(perhaps with a few rules like you can't use it before a certain frag gap or time) would be much better.

Did you hear the abuse clamp got the other day for quitting vs fooKi?
Got called a bitch live on air and loads of abuse on ESR.

Quit pill addresses the psychological factor. I.E. makes it ok to retire and gives less idiots on forums ammunition to use it as an excuse to bitch on someone. I could have done with this at ESR invite:)

after time it would get treated exactly the same way as a /quit.

and if you really can't handle the kiddies being mean to you, play on. but if you truely believe continuing is a waste of your time.. grow a thicker skin and ignore the abuse....

btw why did you delete your other post?

So why is it better that a player should learn to take abuse instead of there being a peaceful way out?
Seeing as that's essentially the only real difference. And quite a big one IMO.

people arent that fragile, surely? i mean come on, its pathetic... oh no some people said i was lame. do you really give a shit what people say? if you do, then i'm sorry for you. just go and prove them wrong next time.

and like i said, the quit pill would soon be seen as just that - just another way of /quit ting, with no extra "honour" to it or whatever the fuck.

btw why did you delete your other post?

lol, are you doing the "i'm a rebel and i don't care about anyone"-dance? i dno how it works in the UK but if you want to make friends where i live you actually have to show that you care, why should anyone care what you think if you don't care what anyone think? yarr pirate

im not out to make friends, im trying to promt him into either showing me some real reasons for this, or to admit that he cant take a bit of bitching

either way works

i mean the scene in general, not just jam.

It's quite easy to make friends and not care what people think to be honest....

It's a game forum-you can't compare it to normal friendships IMO. Not unless you meet in IRL and still get one.
Some people are anally petty online and will dislike you for the stupidest of reasons. Who cares what they think. Such people are not worth the worry.

indeed, im always gonna say what i think, here or offline.
im not sure i understand what big link is talking about if i'm honest

I don't need to convince you. Some of the best ideas in the world are often snubbed by people and it's impossbile to get everyone's buy in.
No this ain't the best idea in the world, but the principle stands. You can't please everyone.

If I had 10 pro's on here saying it's shit then I would conclude it most likely is, atm I have a CS playing female whom I doubt even plays the game at the level or consistency that is needed to fully app the idea.
Specially when there's a well known q4 player who see's the potential benefit of it along with others that I know play the game.

I know it's better than simply quitting out of games, so I feel it's better than how things currently are. If players want to quit then they always will.
This will just make the whole process a little more sportsman like. More of a handhske instead of nothing.

true, you dont need to convince me, but i am merely inviting you to explain why you think this is any different from /quit.
my gender is not an issue, but i agree that my main game might be. however, i am merely illustrating to you that from the outside, it is certainly seen as no different.

you mention that the cpl requires you to play out the full game, and thus having something like this incorporated into the main game would probably lead to this being invalidated.

even as a CS player, my friend, I can see that from a spectators point of view, forfeits are bad. and if its a practise game then why not just /quit. there is nothing more sportsmanly about a "quit pill" - why not say sorry man, good game, im outclassed, before you /quit. in my opinion, it would be far less lame - and nothing needs to be changed!

the main point i am making, however, and it doesnt matter if you play quake or not, or even if you play games or not at all - getting upset at people saying things about you is very kindergarten.

True, but the idea behind it is that it's an amicable way of quitting,so there's no upset in the first place.

Look at snooker for example. Many players resign when they need multiple snookers to stand any chance of winning out of good sport and commonsense. YES it's possible for them to come back, but it's highly unlikely and they simply move onto the next game.
Plus this option should only be possible in the last half of the game, to ensure you don't get people quitting out of they get a crap spawn.

BTW the female reference was more to do with hardly any of them playing Quake.

the argument isnt about resigning - hell, you can do it in chess.

the argument is that is this really needed? say gg wp, but im out, then /quit and you have the same effect.
all it seems like to me, is that this new method would protect people from a bit of bitching? i dont think so, and even if it did, if a player is worth his salt he wont let it get to him... right?
furthermore, it encourages a quit. if someone really wanted to resign, they could do as i have instructed above. but the second it becomes incorporated into a game, well, you can imagine what it would do for the noobs. quit rates would probably get much higher,

so bottom line? noobs quit more, pros get protected from a bit of bitchign when really they should just deal with it. but if anyone really wants to quit? apologise, and /quit. i would hold a response like this in far higher regard than a quit pill, that would take two mouse clicks.

It would allow the round to finish cleanly with scoreboard, screenshot, stop demo, stats dump etc.

thats actually a really good point i hadnt considered ¬_____¬
:D

"Also there are lots of things you can do to make it more amicable.

For example if you're averaging 2 frags a minute, when your opponent quits , it gives an approximate FINAL score based on median/average kills per minute.

So it's not just seen as a quit, there is a score/result at the end which is approximate to how things would have turned out at the avg rate.
Quitting out of pro-games is lame I agree".

I did actually mention it :)

i missed it

i dont think the avg thing is cool tho.

huh? me? :D

Its difficult to differentiate between "/quit" and "the cynanide pill".
Its the same thing, there is no way to "quit gracefully". If both the players know theres no way to catch up , might as well change the map, unless the player with the 10 frag lead get some strange pleasure out of winning with a 20 frag margin instead of 10.

some people might be taken out of rhytm when they have prepared themselves for a 15 minute duel and play accordingly and then the duel ends in 6 minutes and they have to move on to the next map. it doesnt really take that much to keep on playing while losing, and its good sportsmanship to do so imo.

also, still playing while losing is stilll good practice in it's own right

i await spytemans reply

How has it helped wock?

he has overdosed, its why he aint around no more!

No matter how you try to dress it up, I think quitting before the game is over is just unsportsman-like. If you subscribe to the "make video games a real sport" line of thought then you'll notice that in "real" sports, teams don't just quit in the 3rd quarter because they're behind. They're not getting paid to play a half a game, and neither is the audience paying to see half a game. The one game I know where quitting is a viable option is chess. But this is because when players resign, there is pretty much no *logical* way that they can win. If there is 3 minutes on the clock, and you're down by 15 frags, there is still a possibility, however remote that may be, that you can comeback.

why does something like this has to be programmed into the game?
Just say "gg wp" and its done imho...

Becasue that's not built into the game and its seen as lame.
Quit pill would only come into effect in the last 10 mins, so it's not as if players can quit if they get a shitty spawn. they'll have to play a good 10 mins or so.

OHNOES I DONT WANT JAMERIO TO THINK IM LAME!

BRING TEH CYBER CYANIDE TO QUAKE PLX

great opening . rolf

This is allright,
I mean in soccer or tennis,
you almost always have the chance to still win the match ...
in tennis there is no time that runs down, so you always have the chance to win the match, in soccer the scores are so tight, the other team is maybe 2 goals ahead, but 2 goals can happen quite fast if one team gets nervous, additionally the score of the goals are needed to measure teams with equal points, so a team shouldn't resign, because the other team can't get any more goals ... so, of course in these sports it is in the majority of cases not needed to resign ...
in chess you can resign, why not in quake?
If you reach a position in chess that just can't be won anymore with a figure down and passive position, chances you can still turn the outcome of the match are almost zero, it's the same in Quake, if you are 12 Frags down, and there are 4 minutes left, the chance to turn the outcome is almost zero, cuz time is running out ...
That is why there should be an option to resign in quake!

and /quit is not the way to resign, I mean how lame is that,
you actually run away from your opponent, "I run away, so he can't claim a win on me" ... with a resign option it is like this, player forfeits, you won against player ... it is a fact then that you won against him ...
/quit just means running away refusing to take your defeat ...
well it would still be ok, if you say something like "You outplayed me, I don't see a chance anymore to win this match, you won" before doing /quit, but well who does that, most are just frustrated, don't say anything and disconnect, or insult you with luck, +back and da shit ...

PS: If you don't want the option to resign, than remove timelimit, and instead do a fraglimit ... fraglimit 10 or something like that ...
then there is no reason to resign at any time in the match ...
maybe tourneys should do a fraglimit instead, I think this would be much more exciting.

a resign would only work if the other player agrees that way you are giving the person the win as apposed to robbing the player of victory, I could live with that I think, lots of people call a timelimit to start again or end the match without disconnecting from the server.

However if the player doesn't agree, then quitting should be considered shit.

For online public play this is better than people /quit'ing or going to spectate as it would finish the round "cleanly".

For tournament play organisers should follow in the CPL's footsteps and simply ban finishing early (With disqualification as punishment).

If you can't take losing or some random internet people giving 'abuse' you really should just stop playing totally. Not finishing a game in any shape of form is just pathetic.

Less than 1% of Q4's play time is played at a tourney/CPL level.

Also there are lots of things you can do to make it more amicable.

For example if you're averaging 2 frags a minute, when your opponent quits , it gives an approximate FINAL score based on median/average kills per minute.

So it's not just seen as a quit, there is a score/result at the end which is approximate to how things would have turned out at the avg rate.
Quitting out of pro-games is lame I agree.

Yeah quit "pill" is good to finish online stuff cleanly (end score smooth transition into next 'round')

very good idea me thinks