we know attention whore, but since YOU made a thread about this, it has now become special

hehe it is funny though.

Deserved.

since ppl seem to like conspiracies, I go even further

those easier opponents payed for them to lose their group matches and then lose against them

Did they admit to losing on purpose? I thought they were both just playing badly, which led to them both losing to easier opponents.

you could tell av3k threw the games vs strenx. He would get the lead and then fuck it up so stupidly to give strenx back the lead etc all the time.



Cooller was playing very smart @ losing. However stermy caught him, because stermy was playing like total shit, so cooller should have killed him 20 times but had to tone it down and leave him/ miss easy shots to let stermy live multiple times.

This is why on t7 cooller shouts 'WHY ARE YOU HERE?' when he sees stermy with low stack in a corner of the map just begging to die, since cooller HAS to frag him there, or else he looks suspicious.

The admins said if anyone fucking looks suspicious in the third game they would throw them out. So stermy plays serious, and cooller tries to stay out of his sight, making stermys rail aim stand out more by showing himself at easy spots to take rails. If anyone says anything to him about losing, he can say ' he shot 60% rail at me alltimes, how can i live?'

But this is cooller, he managed to evade and could have beaten fucking CYPHER with 100% rail on hub @ qcon.

So i know he wasn't trying very hard at that hub.

BTW we caught av3k/cooller laughing hard behind the admins on stream, so lol

are there any videos of them laughing behind the admin? :D

I would lol too if some admin comes to inform me that the opponent accuses me of losing on purpose.

Any videos of cooller saying that? Sounds like a funny thing to see.

implying Cooller and Av3k lost on purpose.

they did .

be more fucking obvious (c) Insan3

i have 10x better whine sentences than that tbh.. :/

Quake players are so professional.

stracraft players are so ugly.

lol we had:

zsx, vo0, stermy, garpy, avek, rapha & dahang, all selflessly commentating games for the entertainment of the community

and you had?

day9?

I pity you :D

day9 gets how many thousands of viewers each day? 5-10? How are those 17 players working out for you?

day9 is horrible at commentating

and I quote...

"OMFG THAT PROBE JUST GOT OWNED THIS IS SO BAD, OHH MYYY GODDD ANOTHER PROBE DOWN, GG'S SURE TO COME!!!!!!!!!!!!"

^ that's real btw

GREAT RAIL

Day9 is horrible at commentating in front of a public, that's the thing. When he does his stuff in front of his comp, he's waaay better.

Yeh, he seems to suffer from performance anxiety, that's why his bro is still the better caster of the two. He still does good analysis in his d9daily show.

Quality > Quantitiy

join us next week when you are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... The Outer Limits.

So you should be watching QW and PK, no?

Yeah I wish we could have Quake pros that don't throw matches like the BW pros.

you mean bet on their own matches and then throw them.

Savior threw matches for money. Cooller throws a match to avoid losing.

Cooller throws matches (if it's true) to place higher and possibly make MORE money.

zzz.

You're talking about chump change. It was to save face for his sponsor/fanboys, which ended up backfiring hardcore.

I don't think you know just how much money Savior made for throwing matches - not even counting his normal paycheck.

its quakelive, everything is chump change

Why you throw matches is irrelevant, you're still sinking into a very low point for any player, regardless of the game.

Unrelated.

Is your memory that bad?

didnt a few starcraft players get kicked out of the OSL for throwing games?

For money, not to avoid losing. They were prosecuted and sent to prison, even.

yeah i know. im just saying... i didnt read the rest of the replies before i posted that though :P

im sad that gogo got in trouble. he was awesome :'(

clearly a prison sentence is more honorable than manipulating odds in a video game

sc >>>> quake proven


d-

if they did it was smart play imo. Shitty thing to do maybe but threatening to disqualify people for something you cant prove is stupid

sucks.

Vedic: morally wrong actions are justified when you get paid for it

How did I say justified?

don't whine (c) pavel

Ehm, the superior professionalism of SC is not even debatable so this discussion in here is entirely senseless.

However coming here and pointing out the lack of professionalism in QL is kinda sad, too (vedic). Those few remaining "pro" gamers in Quake are just having some fun and sometimes earn a lil' pocket money.

Do you even know the definition of word "professionalism"?

Professionalism: The competence or skill expected of a professional.

Professional: Of, relating to, or connected with a profession.

Profession: Profession

And that's even without invoking the ghost of etymology.

Yes.

it's fine when he says that to vedic. let him fill you in on his personal definition of professional ;P

a habilitation right after elementary school

what else should they be doing?

Guess you didn't understand my post. I didn't criticize them for what they are doing. Just pointing out that StarCraft is like a job while Quake is just some extended free time activity.

Both are hobbies, unless you slave away in Korea.

What the fuck? It's like saying football is also a hobby (which it ofc is) unless you play it in a top club in Europe. What's your point?

StarCraft is a job = dream on, bro.

Its aload of shit tbh, if you win the group yet play a better player, wtf is the point winning the group? - smart play from both of them if they did, they still got their shit pushed in so far they can taste it in their mouths.

Basically, results hidden and the seedings dont get announced till after the last group game finishes.

Basically, use double elimination, problem solved:P