I like the 'killing spree' announcer on the railgun clip.

It would be better to have new announcement's rather than having UT sounds implemented.
There is plethora of good words to use....the announcer's voice is in fact good.

why haven't they shown the clips of the regular nail/shotguns ?

Because there ain't any.

There apparently are. You can start with mg, ng, or sg. They upgrade to super variant when you pick em up on the map

Oh, but why.

I think people may be less frustrated about starting with a weak weapon if they can at least choose the one they're best with.

you can see normal shotgun on one of the nyx screensshots here

I think they are giving us fragments, one at a time. And these weapons are the "main" weapons so it makes sense to show them first, in order to hype the closed beta.

Sounds dont have any oooomph to them. They should put Trent Raznor on the job again.

didnt he only compose the music?

afaik he did q1 SFX too..

q1 sfx was the shit, nade sounds, zombie sounds, quad sounds, etc.

Agreed. The weapons also look flakey and the models are pretty shit to see overall. The game looks questionable at best.

so ssg does 120 dmg if you hit all pellets, wtf

Just like it should! Though the spread, if the gun works similar to the SSG in Q2, will be bigger than Q1 and Q3 SG.

So almost 10 years (or almost 20) of work to do copy+paste. Good job.

Not launch a quake title that is like all quakes before = shitstorm in the quake community

Launch a quake title that is like all quakes before = shitstorm in the quake community

There is only one thing all players want, that the game is dead and fucking bullshit

-HMG +Plasma

Just make the nails glowing hot and throwing sparks for the visibility and I'm ok

the best sign is the RL being down by the side instead of this giant over the shoulder model. i hate it when RLs are up there.

gun sounds are pretty weak tho

yea hipfire is a lot sexier!

Scared about the RL because we did see the kind of noob rocket jumps that you learn the first time, but what about shooting the rocket on the wall and then bhopping really fast? Or chain rocket jumping... still hoping that they do that.

I think I can live with all the fire sounds except the railgun. It sounds almost liquid. Not like a rail gun. And I love the "ooouua" sound that comes after it fires in Q2, Q3 and QL, which they for some reason seem to think is not modern enough for QC.

Also, the fact that there are no loadouts, but you can choose which weapon to start with (of the non-super variants), that's a good compromise I think. It only gives you more options for how to play. I don't think that's a big deal (I mean if you can live with the champions, then this shouldn't matter).

Although it does worry me a bit if the spread of the HMG is not big enough the railgun could become obsolete as its dps is only 53. If the HMG hits 50% of its shots from afar then a good aimer can do more damage with HMG than with the rail gun, as it's a safer bet. So the HMG has to have a very wide spread for it to be balanced.

Not a big deal? Tell this, when it's the 9358295723th shitnoob with rl spawns behind you and randomly pressing +attack while doing so, resulting in a full damage rocket in your back.

Can't wait.

What the shit are you on about? The starting weapons would be the regular MG, nailgun, or shotgun (not the Heavy MG, Super nailgun or Super shotgun). Where do you get "rockets" from? Starting with one of these three weapons (MG, NG or SG) that should all be basically very similar in strength, just different in how you use them and with their own strengths and weaknesses. What's the problem with that?

Oh, all-time SG is even better. Hard to lose a pubgame starting with that.



This "choose your starting weapon" is utterly ridiculous from a quaker point of view.

I assume the normal SG would be weaker than the Q3/QL equivalent, as we also have a super SG. So I don't see the problem as most people would miss 50% of the pellets anyway, making it do like 40 dmg per shot.

You haven't played much FFA with loadouts, right?

This isn't going to be like spawning with SG in QL loadout FFA.

Ooh, just you wait.

They have two different SGs though. The problem with QL is people were never supposed to spawn with those guns. Give a fresh spawn something more like the QW boomstick and you don't have that kind of problem.

Not a solution, since QW bs is pretty much useless.


Pummel, mg @ 100 ammo, 125 / 0, and that's it.

So are the only options that it's OP or too weak? I said it could be more like in QW as an example. It's a new game.

QW's totally unbalanced weapons only work because the gameplay itself is so pure.

This time, they have to balance it to the end of the known universe to make it playable.


And these weapons, art direction and heroes still suck, no matter how they try to circumvent around it.

At least the new rail doesn't emit that horrible high-pitched PWEEEEEEE after firing like it did in Q4. :)

BTW, does anyone understand what that side balconies bullshit is all about? Where would that be placed, if you look at it as DM6? I assume it's a new area, but where exactly is it placed? Also, I don't think I like that you can walk from the rail to the YA area.

if you don't look on the screenshots (those look quite unspeakable for me too), but just read, the idea is that Obelisk = RA area, so Side Balconies might be around RA area, which is bigger now & open.

Yeah, you might be right. That could make the map more interesting imo as the RA and YA areas were always a bit flawed in DM6.

Cater to my needs, id! My will is law!

This shit literally screams an UT look / feel everywhere. Which is painful to watch.

And not just lmao heroes, but also overdesign much? Looking at the weapons alone inducing "whatever the fuck is that"-compliments.



Dafq is wrong with people at Bethesda? Stop with the CoDkid AIDS-stuff already pls and be utterly delicate and sensible when you are handling such a legacy.

Well, who am I kidding..

The colors of the guns will be enough to know what the oponents are wielding though. I think the look of the RL, LG, HMG and nailgun all work. But the model of the railgun is WEAK. So boring, plain, and nothing remotely similar to the originals (all others share some similarities). If you can change where to show the wepaon (like in QL), I think these models will do quite well if they just CHANGE THE RAILGUN. God damnit it's one of the most important guns in the game.

Basically EVERY weapon seen so far lacks creativity and individualism. Twelve is a dozen mentality, looking like ripped off from some UT. The SG alone looks not half bad and that's it. The rest is rufl.

Also where's pg, nades and BFG?

There is only a plasma gun in Q3/QL (and Q4 if you count the hyperblaster). So it's not necessary to make a good quake game (Q1 doesn't have it, and Q2 had a weak-ass hyperblaster not anything like the plasma gun).

Grenade launcher is weird they left out though.

I couldn't care less about he BFG in Quake.

A plasma gun IS necessary for a good Quake game since 1999.

And that BFG; you don't care about a super iconic weapon that was in 4 iterations of the 5 Quake games (and every DOOM-games as well), and is super tear-inducing in pubgames?



This whole QC stuff so far is a major trollfest on Bethesda's part. Not funny tho.

It's not necessary if there are other weapons that are similar (in this case the NG). You still get the fast projectile weapon bringing almost the exact same gameplay element as the PG.

And no. I really don't care about the BFG. It was fun in the original doom,vs bots when Q3 came out but I hate it in any kind of multiplayer environment.

And the BFG can only be found in Quake 2 and 3 (QL is only Q3 in new clothing). Not 1 or 4 (or 5 now that Champions is coming). It's more of a Doom weapon than a quake weapon anyway.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8m4UJwi6LgI/maxresdefault.jpg

Just sayin.

Q4 did have both hyperblaster and super nailgun, though.

You sound like you need some fresh air mate. When's the last time you been out?

Ye, then pls clap when you see them butchering Quake into little pieces and offering this shitlol as a final product.

The old quake games are still here to play, they aren't getting changed or butchered.

I'd rather see an attempt at making a new modern quake than no attempt at all.

Quake is dead ATM.

Besides, it's free so nothing to lose.

"The old quake games are still here to play, they aren't getting changed or butchered. "

Thank God.


I'd rather see an attempt at making a new Quake rather than an OW / UT heroroflol.


"Quake is dead ATM."

That's why I played 12 TDMs today. )


"Besides, it's free so nothing to lose."

Except the legacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hitiPsobMT4 video of nyx

I like it, I wanna play it! :)

I hope we will get a GL and PG! :)

They should have used the 'super-' prefix for each and every weapon to make them better acknowledged! =)
Just imagine the "Super Heavy Machine Gun', 'Super Rocket Launcher', 'Super Ligtning Gun'!

and if you pick mynx as playmodel you can buy supertits as DLC

Nyx page and another Nyx video.

https://quake.bethesda.net/en/champions/6jK5we9mIE02y8EMQs4KMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IpArsMcs3o

Not my proudest fap

Ghost walk

Nyx moves into another dimension becoming invisible and immune to any damage. Nyx will instantly kill any opponent occupying her materialization spot.

wtf were they thinking...

and then this.

but they strafe jumped a little bit in this clip! \o/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hitiPsobMT4

or is it?

.

You are lying. : D

quake 4 remaster

I hope those are low quality samples, ze weapons sound like clapping baby hands mein Gott

7 lg :O

And vq3 rate of fire.

wasn't that always the same?

I just can't remember what it is for QL, or Q4 - and only that it's slower but with more damage per cell in QW. Trying to put these stats in a general Quake perspective.

Those rocket explosions look so big.. so distracting/blinding for either the attacker and the receiving end. Hope this can be tweaked..

My tought too

you'll probably be able to change all that shit in the settings, like in any game... nobody ever plays quake with default graphic settings anyway, unless they ain't from quake.

no plasma?

game sucks.

Grande launcher and throwing grenades, where? Game sucks.

it's an amazing weapon.
It's a good counter to lg.

i like the exploding opponents bodies :D

Stronger splash for the rockets

By making rl a mid distance weapon are all the weapons basically hitscan now?

I'm hoping they only said that because the rl can be effective at both close and long range.

I don't really mean if it's effective or not, because it most likely will be effective.

What I'm talking about is that its mechanics from close are basically the same as hitscan weapon mechanics and that kills very cool part of the game IMO. There used to be adrenaline heavy close distance rocket fights where one miss-dodge meant most likely a death. In QL they introduced faster rockets with larger splash radius and such fights seized to exist because rockets were too easy from close and worked like a shotgun/railgun with splash. If they want to balance rockets as mid distance weapons they need to make them even faster and with larger splash radius meaning close distance rocket fights would be a joke. But time will tell I suppose.

Depends on map structure as well.

QL exclusive maps didn't have enough space for those fights to happen.

The thing is that if you give players more space they will always switch to shaft so there is no "place" for those fights in the game. And from the range it's possible it's not a rocket launcher anymore.

Question is rehepapp, will the Quad be 30-59 or 45-59 ? :D

It shouldn't be random.

If it is longer than LG's range then people will switch to rockets when they don't have equal stack.

I would rather switch to mg or rail.

So after seeing new clips
I will not even talk about good things
Let's just throw it there:

All champions should be able to move at highest speed, it's QUAKE !!
Only players with high skilled movement will benefit, no need on limiting champion speed for f*** sake....RUINED

Next: passive ability ? Really....I dont like this one bit, again:
ALL CHAMPIONS should be able to move exactly the same.
Abilities should give you something extra yes but not giving you better movement system...active ability for nyx, takes too long IMO, and it should be able to use every 30-90seconds depending on the champ and ability.

WEAPONS:
Gauntlet - did not see it yet
Machin gun - did not see it yet

Shot gun - looks fine by me

Grenades or grenade launcher ?

Rocket - model is fine, but the sound is too blend, and not distincitve as q1-2-3 fix the SOUND

Railgun - I tried to listen for a buzzing sound on the railgun standby and there isn't any ? really ? railgun buzz is RAILGUN trademark....WTF....railgun shot....also too blend and not distinctive

Lightning gun - same....there isnt buzzing sound or am I not hearing well...but firing sound and hitsound are good

Nailgun model and sounds are good, but adding some nail trails would be better option like this it's just like heavy machine gun with different rate and dmg....stupid

BFG - will see, they need to show that yet.



I hope to enter beta so I can write my suggestions in the official forums, but for now, only thing that keeps this good, it's the name, speed looks good, movement and smoothness of the game.

The highest hope this game would have is that it comes out with modding ability, it would be fixed by community the same way q2-3 and 4 were fixed....because these are all just super small tweaks.

Duel games - all champions move the same without abilities
Team games - with abilities
=
Good game

So you want q3

I don't

q3 speed, q4 crouchsliding, abilities but with higher cooldowns, + weapon tweaks (which I will discuss in later times after I see more), champions as movement-wise all equal not limitations on armor and hp tiers as it's some overwatch....leave overwatch about overwatch and make quake more about quake.

Wilits said fast paced arena shooter...but with class system that's not.
Only logical thing is to tweak weapon mechanics which would be even more skilled based but thats a long discussion topic.

NO PLASMA WTF?

The more they release about this game the less excited I am.

This just looks bad. Overly busy weapons, second rate art and uninspiring weapons, the same power balance as Q3/QL again. Be a little braver and give us something half way to QW. This is a real B-team project and is going to get ignored due to that.

My thoughts exactly...was really hoping for more QW style gameplay :( this shit just looks like q4 without crouchsliding and a nailgun instead of hyperblaster

RG and RL sounds suck ass. also 15 ammo on RL pickup wtf? Wonder how long it will take to nerf LG back to 6.

Will say 120dmg SG is awesome though

I'm really excited for QC and never really complained about it until now : PLEASE IMPROVE THAT HORRIBLE RAILGUN

Railgun should be longer reload with 100 damage. Maybe 1750ms.

Also only 5 ammo.

K1llsen just threw a chair.

We tried this with CPM, I think it was the wrong choice, 10 is correct.

Good idea!
Please insert even more variants of our beloved HMGay.
There also should be a super heavy and ultra heavy machinegun.
But why the Sg, Pg and Lg got buffed?
Please nerf the shit out of it and make the Rl even more op than it is in Ql.
Because it is really exciting watching Ql aim handicapped nerds time items and play +back, ... you know, chess with rockets, much strategic.
Thihihi, hehehe, hahaha.

please alt+f4 yourself

Why so salty? I just cheer for their ideas.
Don't get butthurt over QC becoming a joke, you should rather laugh about it.

Hey Syncerror, how about every weapon has an alternative fire mode?
Or ironsight, QC needs it, for real, much modern fps, you know?
Thihihi, hehehe, hahaha.

So all weapons are hitscan except Rocket Launcher? No Grenade Launcher or Plasma Gun? What a disappoint.

The nailgun isn't hitscan. It's like the plasma rifle.