i see nothing overly suspicious

the fact that people get repeatedly reported and subsequently banned for good aim in this game is an insult to the skill of the game itself.

I'm not accusing someone, I'm just asking.

people get banned for cheating, not good aim.

I just can't stand the horrible sound quality of those IGMdb videos

I got the demo if you prefer :)

His hitscan weapons (mg and lg) hit way too well for his weak mousecontrol. But maybe hes zooming or maybe he developed that mousing-style.

His crosshair placement looks a lot like hes using WH. Id say about 85% its Wallhack.

And if he uses wallhack, its not unlikely he uses some aimlock too.


Im not sure and I dont feel like investing time into this, but I agree, it looks like a cheater

So so glad exact fov including +zoom of spectated player are default on and in the quakecon build that we'll all have some day....

english pls

Next QL update will allow spectators to see when players zoom.

haha thanks

yw

I am curious how many accusations will be there when people hitting high acc/clutch rails will NOT zoom :)

> But maybe hes zooming

I bet Retribution loves you.

Heh, way to pull something out of context. Seems like you didnt understand my chain of thought if you compare me to him.

I understood you just fine. I was making a reference to something Retribution said a long time ago in the hopes that he will see it and be displeased. :D

BAN ZOOM.

It makes the game better

For you.

Yea, it lets me keep high-sens and pwn noobies :3

so many players have a similar style to this guy nowadays

What you mean?

If he is a cheater....

He wouldn't have had to turn it on for this match.

The guys dodging sucks so he's not hard to hit.
He makes a lot of noise so it's really easy to figure out where he is.
He walks into gunfire or just bursts into a room a lot.
Since he does stupid shit all the time and just pops out... it's not hard to figure out he spawned near lg
when the cheater in question doesn't hear anything by upper ya or mega.

So it seems the "cheater" is....

using sound cues and basic deduction skills.
Against anyone with skill he'd probably get destroyed since he also plays stupid.

Plus a guy on the server told me that he was a cheater.

That's good enough for me!

Nothing really. Decent tracing tho.
On DM13 there was a lot of noise making from opposing player, so wallhack wouldn't really be necessary.

Yes, this is cheater.

Just looked like a player experienced on the map hammering someone that practically just played +forward like he was still in FFA.
His accuracy is not great, he was just well stacked enough to rj round the map to the most likely places a headless chicken would be running.
Spams likely spawn spots but never gets anything from it.
Reacts to sound queues aggressively.

Checking qlr, laprek being very nearly 300 elo higher was not a surprise, the losing player being 1200 after 1.4 months play also suggests he's just not a strong dueller despite 6,037 duels.

Laprek's 4 hour playtime just screams its an alias.

Actual demo could still hint otherwise maybe, but from this so far my expectation is it probably wouldn't.
You'd definitely need a lot more demos if you wanted to build a case.

I think the question is not if it's an alias or not, the real question is if he created a new account because he has a prior ban or not. :P

he spams common spawns, he times main items well, his movement across the map is fine, only 28% LG at the end. it seems like he has quite cheap/old mouse or very low DPI or no mouse pad at all - anyway it adds some extra flicks to his mouse movement. not an aim bot for sure.

also he spammed some places where he predicted enemy, but enemy wasn't there. not a wh for sure.

2:20 opponent almost completely stationary
Idk if he's cheating or just (very) low sens style

#1 the opponent is not good enough to challenge him, be it a cheat or not
#2 New account, no subscription, "funny" flag.
#3 To whom is he losing? Some Russian dude and Kf0 in his first match. And in his last match vs. another possible cheater.
#4 His aim is somewhat standard, hitting pretty well though and he has high consistency with 34+ acc over 100 duel games. The fuck up in the vertical early on is is very interesting though (in the demo).
#5 Cheats are on the uprise again for more than a year now, seeing as community favourite philian for example just got caught using it very blatantly vs. another cheater - not by QL's detection.


If I were to argue in favor of cheat, I'd say he chooses when to lose and when not to. He's possibly losing to Kf0 not to alarm a possible QL's stat based detection system. He's losing in the end to another cheater (friend?). We know there's some weird friendship between kkk and that Polish cheater - see the posts on esr between them.

For me the most telling indication ingame was the way he aimed up from base level to RL ledges: good aim/trace in the horizontal, but hillariously bad aim in the vertical domain - shooting the ledge itself.

From screenshots/youtube videos we've seen aimbots that are configurable enough to steer the crosshair differently enough vertically and horizontally, possibly to avoid detection; further kkk used a low vertical aim assistence in a previous instance which would correlate with this case.

PhD

The dude moves the mouse all over the place while moving (badly), with high sens n long strides on screen. Then when he shafts the mouse control turns to great and does very small strides. The fact that he basically doesnt hit more in easier situations nor less in harder ones makes it that more laughable to me.

well I played him like an hour ago. lost 3 or 4 games in a row.
he made some, lets say, "noobie" decisions but when it came down to the fights he always hit the shots that needed to be hit.. always.
cheeeeeeeeeeeeet

I hope there will be better anticheat for next/final update. Seems like there is a fair bit of cheaters around, also it will be nice to get rid of some of the paranoia thats going around, and there is alot of that.

New account with incredibly weird aim and does a lot of weird reads.

Guilty till proven otherwise! ;D

played a few games vs him, doesn't cheat at all or didn't vs me :<

You're too good that his cheats failed. They only work on noisy, +forward players who can't dodge.

r_showtris "1" or no discussion :)
http://quakewiki.org/wiki/r_showtris

the first MG looks kind of strange, but could be weapon config with low sens

it's weird how he aims at 2:07 with plasmagun.

doesn't seems natural, he starts to shoot to the floor no sense, while the crosshair is moving to the model.

also the fact the he practices with an aimbotter qcblows all the time kinda proves it for me

http://www.twitch.tv/hafticho/v/9534465
At 07:30 start, legit or cheat?

I don't normally put my nose in the cheating bizz, but..
I actually think this guys is cheating.
That LG around 8.37 looks so unnatural its fucking ridiculous.

And I played this one once as well, when he had like 13 games or something and it really felt like he was cheating then.
So he probably still is.

At least e annoys the shit out of me.

I will probably send demos to ID.

*id

One of the biggest tell tails of cheats is that because there aim is based on percentage, there are certain shots which they are guaranteed to miss... A player is never always going to hit certain shots but the chances of hitting the. Increase the longer you play. When you watch this guy he can aim really well for 1 situation, then completely fail in the next.... Good players are consistent

Always never...

I know it does look kinda 3rdie engle

what a bunch of fucking idiots...