ESR - QUAKECON 2015 DAY 2: CTF

tox came the very same route his forefathers took across the Atlantic, clinging to a plank of wood much like them, to claim what's his. Or why else do you think had he to leave his shaving gear behind?

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<< Comment #428 @ 04:35 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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b0ltzmann - Reply to #1

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<< Comment #3 @ 19:46 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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mouse*

Where is the MD merchandise I have an ungodly amount of money ready for it that would otherwise be wasted for charity.

<< Comment #2 @ 19:46 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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qwih

lol the same retarded and flawed rules rewarding teams losing early. I guess at this point u gotta keep em given how fucked up the TDM tournament was.

<< Comment #4 @ 19:50 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #2

elaborate please

<< Comment #6 @ 20:03 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #4

i did in the TDM thread.

Basically people who won't win (out of the top4 i'd say) are better off doing stuff like throwing the first round and then throwing 1 map and the cap difference in the following rounds (depending on other results) to get worse opponents and then get the paired down team and get even worse opponents in the decisive rounds :))))

That's what happened to Anything is Possible and the Chilean team to get 5th and 6th place in tdm. And totally fucked Rapha's team shot at the overall title.

<< Comment #11 @ 20:14 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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magadog - Reply to #6

Did it really fuck their FEM's chance of overall title? I mean they have a score of 10 and a Buchholz score of 25 so if they do well in ctf and duel they could probably take a top three position. If MD and Break have really bad ctf day and 1v1 day they could even win but that won't happen probably. But Break and MD are good teams and have good duelers so they probably are really the best.

<< Comment #27 @ 20:38 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #11

read #16 by scowl. They still have a shot but them and\or IG (cypher will win duel afterall) lost points because of this.

<< Comment #88 @ 07:35 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #6

Fem lost 3-0 against 102 in the 2nd round and lost 3-0 against 'avg' in the 4th.

You could also argue that Rapha's team should have done better there if they want to be on the podium.

Edited by daytripper at 07:37 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #92 @ 07:53 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #88

Yes, you could. That doesnt make the issues any smaller tho.

<< Comment #105 @ 09:00 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #92

Yes it does, imo, to be honest.

You claim Rapha's team got fucked. They won 2 out of 4 matches. MD won every single match, 102 won 3 out of 4.

I'm not saying tie-break systems can't work out "unlucky" for you, but ultimately you control your own destiny, and everybody starts out with the same rules in place.

<< Comment #115 @ 09:13 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #105

Who you play matters greatly on your final record. And who you play is decided in a flawed way in this tournament.

If you think nothing is wrong with this system after Anything is Possible placed 5th by beating the 15th, 11th and 12th seed i'll just stop answering you from now on.

I used rapha's team as an example because they are the most notable team with a chance to get a win in the final overall tournament. There are many fuck ups possible in this tournament.

And even tho you control your own destiny that's really true ONLY for the top3-4 teams in each mode.
The tournament is not only based on luck in the pairings, but also rewards losing matches\maps early if you are out of the Finals. This also make the system exploitable.

<< Comment #413 @ 23:51 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #115

I would have to manually redo the standings round by round to check the pairings after.

Round 1 pairings were just standard 1-9, 2-10, 3-11 etc.

After round 1 my standings look like this:
Break the Curse
Anything is Possible
Meltdown.bar
Averagers
Igamerz
FoundEm
We Used To Be Good
Deliberate murder
CrazYs Cartel
Respect the Paco
Ghost Squad
Don't let Zorak pick
Bro Science
Four Untrained Newbs
This Isnt CA?
READYUP

Pairings for round 2 looked reasonably ok based on the above (but I'm not 100% sure the above is what they had).

Can't be bothered to do the rest.
I don't know if Challonge did the pairings automatically or if they had to be done manually. I suspect the latter. So I don't know if or how much they deviated in round 3 & 4, there certainly is room for manipulation. (Already round 2 did not seem to be 100% consistent.)

I still think it doesn't matter all too much in the grand scheme of things. If you want to win the section or the overall tri-master you have to score big, which is what the teams who are currently in the lead (afte tdm & ctf) did.

<< Comment #5 @ 19:54 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #2

agreed the whole tournament is not designed to have close games but to have the best playing against the best the fastest way possible. Since I'm already at the negative points of this awesome tournament: production:you suck. we can hear you talk, your connection of interview room to casters is flawed and why the fuck is there no second stream. instead of staring at the brackets for 30 minutes we could just watch random matches without commentary you know.

i know i know quakecon is always drama but this is the 20th time, can only once things go right? Im not saying everything is wrong but after 20 fucking years a detailed schedule earlier than 5 minutes before the tournament would be nice. and a production that turns on the sound when people talk would be appreciated.

nevertheless rant is rant qcon is qcon i am a fan i am hyped.

Edited by mouse* at 19:55 CDT, 23 July 2015

<< Comment #7 @ 20:07 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #5

the tournament is way more fucked up than that.
A swiss with normal swiss pairings and tiebreakers would be very good alongside good seedings.
Here some teams are literally better off being on the lower side of the standings and abuse the flaws to get good opponents round 2, 3 and 4.

<< Comment #292 @ 17:09 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (85.138.167.150) - Reply to #5

is problem with id dev team. bad management

i agree is very bad so many years have same problems

quakecon has bad image always same problems

i think shows how id does not care about player or fan

<< Comment #8 @ 20:09 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #2

It's not about losing early per se. Both "Anything is Possible" and "Found Em" lost in the 2nd round. But then AIP got 2 bad opponents in rounds 3 and 4, while Found Em got a strong opponent in round 4. As a result AIP ended up with more points than Found Em, even though they are obviously worse.

How did that happen?

The deciding moment obviously was round 3, when AIP only won 2:1, but Found Em won 3:0. Due to this, AIP had fewer points than Found Em and got an easier opponent than them in round 4.

In conclusion, the system doesn't reward losing early by itself, it rewards losing once and then keeping your score on a level low enough to get an easy opponent in round 4.

TL;DR
If you're 1:1 in matches after 2 rounds then, in the 3rd round, winning 2:1 is preferable to winning 3:0, because that way you increase your chances of beating your round 4 opponent.

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Basically people who won't win (out of the top4 i'd say) are better off doing stuff like throwing the first round and then throwing 1 map

I suppose you wrote the same thing. I that case, I agree.

Edited by scowl at 20:13 CDT, 23 July 2015

<< Comment #10 @ 20:14 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #8

the losing 1 map additionally is exactly my point and what i tried to explain in the tdm thread.
But be sure: what happened to AiP is not the more extreme case. If you lose the first match and then win 2-1 the second match (with additional twitching regarding the caps if needed), you'll get the worse of the 1-1 teams in the second round and the worse of the 2-1 teams in the third.

Edit: yep. Another epic fail by qcon :D

Edited by qwih at 20:14 CDT, 23 July 2015

<< Comment #13 @ 20:16 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #10

Thx for explaining and giving the teams some ideas, rofl.

<< Comment #19 @ 20:28 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #13

they need to be carefull, if they all do this shit, things get trickier.

<< Comment #14 @ 20:18 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #10

Yeah. You probably mean "third round" and "fourth round" in your last sentence, though.

But: There are some mitigating circumstances. This kind of stuff was available to see in the Swiss test that syncerror made available months ago. So, all teams could have known this and could have manipulated the system in their favor. E.g., Found Em could have intentionally lost one map, but they didn't.

Edited by scowl at 20:22 CDT, 23 July 2015

<< Comment #18 @ 20:27 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #14

oh yes. Those're both right.
Me personally, I just noticed this shit mainly because i tought it was an everybody plays everybody event till 2 days ago or so when i realized there was not enough time and Noctits said to me it was 4 rounds (the rules make sense for a everybody plays everybody event) and one of the most fucked up situations instantly happened.

<< Comment #23 @ 20:33 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #18

It would be so funny if Found Em did well in CTF and duel (which is quite likely), and then barely missed out on the overall triathlon championship because of getting fucked over in TDM. I'm rooting for this to happen.

(However, if this doesn't happen, that also means that the TDM pairings fuckup doesn't matter too much.)

Edited by scowl at 20:34 CDT, 23 July 2015

<< Comment #25 @ 20:35 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #23

me too, just for the lulz. And i hope i team like 102 calls putin, gets some mad russian mathematician after this and steal a top5 in ctf by laming hard :DDD

<< Comment #89 @ 07:44 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #18

the rules make sense for a everybody plays everybody event

You don't need Swiss pairings in an all play all event: that's just a round robin.

The Swiss pairing system was specifically designed for events where everybody can not play everybody. (But also with many more participants in mind. In chess open Swiss tournaments can have several hundred participants for example.)

<< Comment #91 @ 07:52 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #89

It was designed in a faulty way. And the fact that stupid pairings dont matter in a all play all it's exactly my point. Also tiebreaker system is stupid in swiss but might be ok in all play all

<< Comment #103 @ 08:53 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #91

It was designed in a faulty way.

The Swiss pairing system has existed for more than a 100 years and is being used in many sports & competitions.

And the fact that stupid pairings dont matter in a all play all it's exactly my point.

But they do not have enough time for an all play all. And so then you need pairings. In a knock out format you need pairings as well.

Also tiebreaker system is stupid in swiss

Huh? So what are they supposed to do if scores are tied?

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qwih - Reply to #103

In order:

-yes the swiss pairing system has existed for a long time and I have partecipated in no less than hundreds of swiss tournaments across various games and sports.
In 0 of them the pairings were 1-51 50-100 (coz placements mattered) instead of 1-100 and the guy with the best record being paired down.

-i know, but you need better pairings. I'm not advocating against pairings in general, just these retarded ones.

- Should have added "_this_ tiebreaker system". A better one, as i said in 100 posts already, is based on strenghts and rating of the opponents mostly and in minimal part to what is central here.

<< Comment #116 @ 09:18 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #110

-yes the swiss pairing system has existed for a long time and I have partecipated in no less than hundreds of swiss tournaments across various games and sports.
In 0 of them the pairings were 1-51 50-100 (coz placements mattered) instead of 1-100 and the guy with the best record being paired down.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_to...e-breaking

Standard Swiss system
Round 1:
#1 plays #5, #1 wins
#2 plays #6, #2 wins
#3 plays #7, #3 wins
#4 plays #8, #4 wins

Which is exactly what they did.

- Should have added "_this_ tiebreaker system". A better one, as i said in 100 posts already, is based on strenghts and rating of the opponents mostly and in minimal part to what is central here.

Problem here is that we don't have ratings and "strengths of the opponents" is subjective.
They used "strengths of the opponents" for the initial seedings, but you can't really use that for tie-breakers.

<< Comment #119 @ 09:28 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #116

Strenght of the opponents is based on the record of your opponents when you face them and their record in the rounds afterwards. It's a complicated equation that has been perfected with time and is in use in many games. There are programs that basically do everything for you in that sense. And that's how you properly run a swiss tiebreaking system in a tournament where placements matter.

Yes, i know that system you people keep fucking posting. And i'm telling you that way it's retarded and basically no game uses it THAT way nowadays.
It's laughable that you can't see the problem in pairing like that, saying stuff "well the tops seed won anyway so what's the problem". Are you being intentionally think or are you just a qcon admin :D????

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daytripper - Reply to #119

Strenght of the opponents is based on the record of your opponents when you face them and their record in the rounds afterwards. It's a complicated equation that has been perfected with time and is in use in many games. There are programs that basically do everything for you in that sense. And that's how you properly run a swiss tiebreaking system in a tournament where placements matter.

This I agree with. Some sort of performance rating for the tournament.
But what I wonder, these systems, do they work with only four rounds?

Yes, i know that system you people keep fucking posting. And i'm telling you that way it's retarded and basically no game uses it THAT way nowadays.
It's laughable that you can't see the problem in pairing like that, saying stuff "well the tops seed won anyway so what's the problem". Are you being intentionally think or are you just a qcon admin :D????

Sorry but I've played in Swiss chess tournaments and they do use that system.
And no I don't see the problem in pairing like that.
To be fair I'm not an expert, so I'm willing to believe I could be wrong.
I do know that these things are tricky, and that -as far as I know- the Swiss pairing system was not designed with only four rounds in mind, or few players.

In short: I'm willing to believe the Swiss pairing system is not ideal for this tournament. (Though it did not seem to work that badly in my opinion, regardless of what you have been saying.)

It's just that you seem to be bringing in arguments that I thought are not entirely valid.

Also keep in mind that they needed some sort of tournament system where they could tally up and combine results of three separate events (tdm, ctf & duel) and have limited time (no round robin possible).

Edited by daytripper at 09:55 CDT, 24 July 2015

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mouse* - Reply to #8

I am much too drunk too check all of that information but I respect you as a person knowing stuff about quake so im gonna buy it for now.

fact is i dont feel like this tourney is designed to be close. on my side are the brackets that speak a clear 3-0 language if you know what i mean. but then again with only 1 stream why would it matter if there are close games next to the high rollers

Edited by mouse* at 20:26 CDT, 23 July 2015

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<< Comment #16 @ 20:20 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #12

The point is: Found Em only got 10 points, which basically makes winning the overall triathlon impossible for them. If they had thrown one map against some noobs instead of beating them 3:0, they would probably have ended up with 14 points. That's how the system works and that's kind of bad.

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qwih - Reply to #16

we should also mention again the 1st seed vs 9th seed and 8th vs 16th as a pretty big travesty.
That way the teams from south america, seeded in the early 10s, had to play 102 and AVG instead of potentially upsetting the mid-NA teams.
It also makes for weird pairings: Break vs MD in the second round is another example. Essentialy the 5th seed got vs the 1st instead of having a chance to upset the 4th (IG). Which they did in the end out of pure luck of the pairings.

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<< Comment #26 @ 20:36 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #24

Yeah... I think I agree. At this point, It seems like you'll get the overall championship either by (a) owning in all 3 disciplines or (b) getting lucky pairings due to a badly designed tournament system.

Edited by scowl at 20:36 CDT, 23 July 2015

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qwih - Reply to #26

another team that could benefit from this might be MD\avg in duel.. Should actually take the time to the math based on how many quality opponents are there. Which i won't :D

<< Comment #28 @ 20:38 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #24

ya this whole thing is fucked up. I demand a REDO of TDM DAY 1.

snatch that giant cheque out of MD's hands and replay everything properly.

The ctf is also fucked up. Some asshat has seed 1 playing seed 9 again.

Who is doing this shit?

Edited by jamalz at 20:42 CDT, 23 July 2015

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scowl - Reply to #28

Nah, MD deserve it. They even had it harder than they were supposed to. However, the rankings below them were heavily influenced by unnecessary biases in the tournament system.

The ctf is also fucked up. Some asshat has seed 1 playing seed 9 again.

That seems so obviously wrong, I don't even understand how anyone can do it.

Who is doing this shit?

Who other than Sync could it possibly be?

Edited by scowl at 20:46 CDT, 23 July 2015

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qwih - Reply to #30

agreed. Also at this point it's hard to "fix" the tournament because part of it has already been played with these rules.

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jamalz - Reply to #31

I'm gonna just have to root for MD to win every single ctf game and for tox to shit on everyone in the duel tournament for this to straighten itself out, amirite?

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<< Comment #93 @ 07:56 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #30

The ctf is also fucked up. Some asshat has seed 1 playing seed 9 again.

That seems so obviously wrong, I don't even understand how anyone can do it.

It's called Swiss pairings. What do you want, the two best teams to face off in the first round?

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scowl - Reply to #93

No, I think that 1-16, 2-15, 3-14, ..., 7-8 would be better. That way, at least some of the matches are informative and exciting.

When doing 1-9, 2-10, 3-11, ..., 8-16, this just means that the first round matches are basically non-informative.

<< Comment #403 @ 21:19 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #129

It's just the standard way of pairing in Swiss. The reason being that normally you keep up that logic for the rest of the tournament.

The logic being that in Swiss pairing you divide the whole field in groups with the same amount of points. You then split each group in half and pair the top half against the bottom half. In the first round everybody has 0 points, so there is only one group, so you get 1-9, 2-10 etc.

With your system (1-16, 2-15 etc) the top teams all win and about half of the middle teams win (as they will be paired against each other), so for the second round the group of winners contains all the top teams + a bunch of middle tier teams, which will gave strange seedings if you keep up that logic.

Ultimately, with the standard system and enough rounds, everybody will get a fair shot at the title, it should even out in the long run. But of course more rounds is always better.

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scowl - Reply to #403

With your system (1-16, 2-15 etc) the top teams all win and about half of the middle teams win (as they will be paired against each other), so for the second round the group of winners contains all the top teams + a bunch of middle tier teams, which will gave strange seedings if you keep up that logic.

I don't see a problem with that, you just made it sound confusing with your phrasing. For the second round, the group of winners contains (a) the top teams and (b) the better half of the middle tier teams; and the group of losers contains (a) the low tier teams and (b) the worse half of the middle tier teams.

This sounds perfect to me. We have already gotten some information on who are the better teams among the mid tier teams.

The next rounds can continue the way they did at Quakecon. The good thing is: All mid tier teams had a decent, fair chance of starting with a win. See below:

Ultimately, with the standard system and enough rounds, everybody will get a fair shot at the title, it should even out in the long run. But of course more rounds is always better.

With 4 rounds, it's obvious that not everybody gets a fair (or even relatively equal) shot at the title.

The #9 seed gets destroyed in the first round against the #1 seed and that's it for him. The #8 seed, however, gets an easy win against the #16 seed.

So the difference between being seeded #8 and #9 (which is a highly subjective and unreliable seeding) is either starting with a 99% loss or a 99% win. That's so obviously unfair, I don't even know how anybody can *not* see this.

With my round 1 pairings, the #9 seed will play against the #8 seed first, so we'll actually find out who's the better team and both get a fair chance of starting with a win. Much better, isn't it?

edit: Sure, some collateral damage comes with my initial pairings. E.g., the #16 seed now gets destroyed by the #1 seed instead of the #9 seed. But that's also what happens in regular Single Elimination brackets, so it's the standard in a lot of tournaments. I think that's totally acceptable and much more acceptable than giving the #8 seed a huge advantage over the #9 seed.

Edited by scowl at 05:06 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Pawulon - Reply to #30

Seeds pairing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_to..._procedure

"For instance, if there are eight players in a score group, number 1 is paired with number 5, number 2 is paired with number 6 and so on."

It follows the same fucking rule!
1-9
2-10
3-11
...
8-16

Edited by Pawulon at 07:59 CDT, 24 July 2015

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scowl - Reply to #94

Well, that's one system. I'm sure there others.

Also, see: http://esreality.com/post/2751877/n-a/#pid2751877

<< Comment #87 @ 07:22 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Erk - Reply to #28

MD's schedule was by far the hardest of any team. If Break had to play Avg and 102 after MD, then they probably would have had 5 points instead of 15. So much luck involved with the tournament setup and seeds. Having 2nd or 4th seed was better than having 1st or 3rd seed.

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Anonymous (85.138.167.150) - Reply to #28

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<< Comment #9 @ 20:11 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

I really miss the old days when we had GTV or even in the early times of streaming where two regular bros would cast some duel tournament and just hop into every fucking game. If 1 game is a blowout they'd be like fuck it, next game even at 6-7 minute mark. And repeat. We'd see so much quake it would be awesome.

Now we have 2 faggots trying to be professional for a stream of 900 people, 300 of which don't give a fuck and are waiting for the bawls chugging or whatever.

JUST SHOW ME SOME NIGGAS GETTING SHOT BY OTHER NIGGAS. HOW HARD IS THAT?

fuck

edit: why doesnt some 4 eyed fuck create GTV with ads for all these popular games and sell it and make a 10 mil and retire young? c'mon you fucking geeks get on that shit and throw me a bone for giving you an idea. Sell it to RIOT/valve/ etc dont forget my cut btw shit

Edited by jamalz at 20:15 CDT, 23 July 2015

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mouse* - Reply to #9

11:00 a.m. texas time and 18:00 berlin time the show started with a bimbo game whitewash at 3k viewers. the 2 faggots can at least explain a bit of whats going on rather than repeating "that aim by tox" they only have a bit less to a decade of experience in knowing and talking about quake but w/e .

why doesnt some 4 eyed fuck create GTV with ads for all these popular games and sell it and make a 10 mil and retire young?

because nobody else did it before. i hope i lifted all of life's secrets that you seem to have so much trouble with

<< Comment #20 @ 20:28 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #17

show me this gtv like system?

<< Comment #21 @ 20:31 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #20

quake live beta :))

<< Comment #22 @ 20:32 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #21

there was no gtv in quakelive beta

http://www.geeteevee.com/faq.php

Edited by jamalz at 20:33 CDT, 23 July 2015

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Lam | - Reply to #22

http://esreality.com/post/2435807/fragtvbetarelease/

And this was the second attempt (first was circa 2010, related to holysh1t.tv, and also failed).

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jamalz - Reply to #49

alright i stand corrected, da fuck why arent we using this

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flocks - Reply to #9

> bawls chugging

??

I don't know what kinda noobs you think are watching this stream but some of us are waiting for the marriage proposals followed by that angry bald guy that talks every year when some asshat runs up, grabs the mic and yells FUCK HER RIGHT IN THE PUSSY.

<< Comment #15 @ 20:18 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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magadog

I thought the production was good enough. The thing that I noticed and didn't like was it was hard to tell if you were speccing a blue or red person without making an bit of an effort to look at the name. If if you dont know the teams then it would be difficult to know wtf is going on.

I always thought the following message in quake 3 was fine where the players name was upper center of the screen. Just put the name there and make it red or blue and then it's fine.

Edited by magadog at 20:19 CDT, 23 July 2015

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imdaniel - Reply to #15

agree, the color font from the HP and ARMOR icons is not clear enough, hard to distinguish what team you are following. Other than that the spec HUD is very good, is actualy the very first time i enjoyed watching a little of TDM.

<< Comment #33 @ 20:56 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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donka '

DISABLE FOLLOWKILLER AND FOLLOW POWERUP BEFORE ANOTHER CASTING GOES DOWN THE SEWER

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<< Comment #34 @ 21:04 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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donka '

toxic is turning into techno viking

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<< Comment #36 @ 22:17 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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melechesh '

102 gonna davaisukablyad the WHOLE FUCKING FLAG

<< Comment #37 @ 22:24 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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8952341

anyway we can see stats from DAY1? didnt seem to be logged/showing on quakelive com

edit: i saw the stats on the front page, but i mean K/D/Damage/Accuracies stats

Edited by 8952341 at 22:25 CDT, 23 July 2015

<< Comment #38 @ 22:36 CDT, 23 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #37

You mean this? No accuracy though

<< Comment #40 @ 00:15 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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drink.more

seed 100 vs seed 1 pls ;)

<< Comment #41 @ 01:12 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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tony

FFA

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<< Comment #42 @ 01:26 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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nsx0r

BAWLS

Edited by nsx0r at 01:26 CDT, 24 July 2015

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wrong person - Reply to #42

neat.. now do it with :DICKS

<< Comment #43 @ 02:19 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Slajer

Wait what, day 2?
Damn, i didn't even notice it started (was there a majored news?)

<< Comment #44 @ 02:23 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #43

http://www.esreality.com/post/2734703/quakecon-2015-day-1-tdm/

Edited by Xsi at 02:23 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #45 @ 02:30 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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krock - Reply to #43

L O L
O
L

// just omg :D

// wtf, bro?! :D

// how is that possible?! :D

Edited by krock at 02:31 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #46 @ 02:38 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Slajer - Reply to #45

It wasn't on front page :/

<< Comment #60 @ 05:19 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Latvietis - Reply to #46

almost missed day one too

<< Comment #70 @ 06:08 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #60

it was on frontpage yesterday, thanks to sujoy. but someone unsticked it. *fixed*

<< Comment #143 @ 11:49 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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M1zzu - Reply to #70

should have been frontpage for a week, with huge countdown somewhere.

<< Comment #76 @ 06:25 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #60

If you guys cared enough you might have googled QUAKECON.

Hundreds of sites informing when it started, i.e: 23rd to 26th of july.

Shame on you !

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<< Comment #86 @ 07:08 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Latvietis - Reply to #76

who googles QUAKECON

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<< Comment #90 @ 07:49 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #86

Using steam maybe? There is a huge advert

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flocks - Reply to #90

Real men still use standalone.

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<< Comment #226 @ 13:53 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #162

You do know that there are other games on steam?

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flocks - Reply to #226

On the off chance that you're not asking a rhetorical question... Yes, I know. :P I was only joking around. I've basically used steam since in 2002. Or was it 2003? I don't remember. I know you needed it for CS, though.

Edited by flocks at 14:32 CDT, 24 July 2015

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Xsi - Reply to #246

It was a rethorical question.

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SigningOff - Reply to #86

you don't, obviously !

<< Comment #248 @ 14:30 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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CENEk - Reply to #76

Yeah, or follow them on Twitch. That's how I saw it.

<< Comment #52 @ 03:34 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (210.1.82.170)

can someone put the VODs on youtube please? Twitch sucks.

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<< Comment #482 @ 07:10 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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Tayski - Reply to #52

x2 plz

<< Comment #485 @ 18:38 CDT, 1 August 2015 >>

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Tayski - Reply to #52

http://www.esreality.com/post/2753958/quakeco...pid2755665

<< Comment #51 @ 03:34 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (81.66.201.229)

DAY 1 HIGHLIGHT :
-32 games were played
-4 were streamed (30% BLANK SCREEN TIME, 30% shitchat give or take)

-_________________________________________________________-

proper coverage of the event please ???

Z O O to_ot
O O
O O
to_ot O O Z

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<< Comment #66 @ 05:56 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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outside - Reply to #51

Probably means that only 4 CTF games and tomorrow only 4 duels will be streamed. Since they are played at the same time?

<< Comment #72 @ 06:14 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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adrenal1ne - Reply to #66

very likely

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Lw)f - Reply to #72

O F T A
F
T
A

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<< Comment #74 @ 06:17 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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A1RMAN - Reply to #66

haha.. 4 freakin duel games !
and the first one will be complete blowout, so THREE duel games ! najs

Edited by Airman at 06:17 CDT, 24 July 2015

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sleepii - Reply to #66

id imagine 8 duel games since they're 1/2 as long as tdm/ctf. but yeah I think a lot of people misunderstand how this system works and how many games can be streamed. I also have no fucking clue how they have like a thousand seat BOYC but they can't add another computer setup for stream, so other games could be covered (fem vs 102 from yesterday, along w/ many others) ?

Edited by sleepii at 12:19 CDT, 24 July 2015

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FlashSoul - Reply to #172

I also have no fucking clue how they have like a thousand seat BOYC but they can't add another computer setup for stream, so other games could be covered (fem vs 102 from yesterday, along w/ many others) ?

It's only an hypothesis but I think it might be related to the fact that there is a huge BYOC, yes. I'm sure the QuakeCon team blocks most big downloads and streams but with how so many popular games don't have public server binaries and (clients) need to communicate with the internet, there's probably a huge bandwidth demand from this side.

In any case we can probably ask faceit (or perhaps id?).

<< Comment #461 @ 10:25 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #412

Doesn't answer if the QL streaming is affected, but there's some interesting stuff here:
http://community.quakecon.org/2015/07/21/q-a-...epartment/

How much network traffic does the BYOC generate?

In 2014, traffic between QuakeCon and the Internet was roughly 33.3TB down and 5.5TB up. Traffic between the tables and the core came in at roughly 5.8TB in and 54.4TB out.

We aggressively cache as much internet content as possible to maximize our available bandwidth. The caching causes the reported internet consumption to appear lower than the total traffic seen by the core and tables.

What kind of internet connection does the BYOC have?

AT&T provides the event with two 1Gbps links to the internet, and traffic is load-balanced between those two connections.

Edited by daytripper at 10:31 CDT, 25 July 2015

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FlashSoul - Reply to #461

Woa this is massive. Thanks for the link!

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SigningOff - Reply to #51

See if I care !

<< Comment #48 @ 03:26 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gbmaster '

how many flags will be captured today

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Lam | - Reply to #48

Two: red and blue.

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<< Comment #53 @ 03:35 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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SwarmDMX

Does Tox know how to play ctf?

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CrazyAl ' - Reply to #53

Does a rag doll have cloth tits?

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<< Comment #99 @ 08:30 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #55

If they think to make them,yes!

<< Comment #56 @ 04:02 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Dird

I hope the casting will be better Today

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #56

If only EnjoYka had been invited...

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CENEk - Reply to #81

Oh lawd.

<< Comment #58 @ 04:37 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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nvc

Good luck everyone

<< Comment #67 @ 05:56 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (50.7.139.243)

NO DEMOS???

says alot

<< Comment #59 @ 05:13 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse*

T

<< Comment #62 @ 05:25 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Beet - Reply to #59

O

Edited by Beet at 05:26 CDT, 24 July 2015

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nawak - Reply to #62

O

<< Comment #68 @ 05:59 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #65

L

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gluttony - Reply to #68

O

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A1RMAN - Reply to #69

W

<< Comment #78 @ 06:27 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #71

damn i think i was just insulted collectively

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<< Comment #61 @ 05:24 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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nvc

Spreading the love! https://twitter.com/MultiplayEsport/status/624515610240794624

<< Comment #63 @ 05:35 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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adrenal1ne - Reply to #61

av3k :(

<< Comment #64 @ 05:40 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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kobe_08

If MD does happen to win it all, do I get some kind of award for predicting it since the team was formed?

Anyway...Am I the only one who see CZM when I look at winz? I swear those two look a lot alike!

<< Comment #73 @ 06:16 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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adrenal1ne - Reply to #64

kinda hoping for a break ctf title with md coming in 3rd or whatever..leading up to dahang vs tox in 3rd round for the overall title..(hype)

<< Comment #77 @ 06:26 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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kobe_08 - Reply to #73

Tox hype is enough for me, I don't need it to be close! I want Winz, linkin, tox and Zyrinx to steam roll through this tournament!

<< Comment #456 @ 10:10 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Freiya - Reply to #77

Not a true patriot, are you?

<< Comment #462 @ 10:31 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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kobe_08 - Reply to #456

Why, because I'm using the American flag and not the German? Or is it because I'm with my fellow Europeans on this one? You can actually pick and chose when you're American/German on which side you prefer at times. :D

<< Comment #415 @ 00:03 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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FlashSoul - Reply to #64

Anyway...Am I the only one who see CZM when I look at winz? I swear those two look a lot alike!

Yep. I think the same thing every time.

<< Comment #463 @ 10:32 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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kobe_08 - Reply to #415

And it's also his mannerism! He's has the total act down pat!

<< Comment #79 @ 06:29 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Dird

why are the people's quakelive accounts not showing their QCON matches?!?!

can't see how anybody did in TDM individually

<< Comment #80 @ 06:36 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Beet - Reply to #79

Cos its lan, I think? There was that list of top 10 stats, they should give stats for all the players!

<< Comment #83 @ 06:49 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #79

because new client i believe

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adrenal1ne - Reply to #79

matches played offline...

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FlashSoul - Reply to #79

1. QuakeCon matches never showed on Quake Live profiles since they are played in a closed infrastructure.
2. On top of that it's on the new client this year.

Edited by FlashSoul at 00:06 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Dird

how the hell are 102 and iG above We Used To Be Good for CTF -_-"

<< Comment #97 @ 08:22 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #84

Over rated.

:O

<< Comment #98 @ 08:24 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Dird - Reply to #97

tru dat
they'll be lucky to get a single win

<< Comment #101 @ 08:47 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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adrenal1ne - Reply to #84

Seems accurate

<< Comment #100 @ 08:33 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ '

BREAK vs CRAZY CARTEL pls!

<< Comment #102 @ 08:48 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #100

I wish that was break vs ghost squad

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #102

This, cc already got streamed yesterday, ghs first ctf match would be great today.

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #106

Just checked ghs goes vs 1.800.readyup, so better stream ghs when they get a stronger oponent.

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #102

Its syncerror, the guy has no brain

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #108

Someone without brains doesnt makes a map like Elder, he takes bad decisions which is totally different.

<< Comment #104 @ 08:57 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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zfred

EUROPE >>>>> USA

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xemorx - Reply to #104

were you showing here the general migration direction prevalent over centuries?

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<< Comment #121 @ 09:57 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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donka ' - Reply to #112

* > USA then

<< Comment #107 @ 09:02 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Dird

I'm leaving work now in anticipation! hype hype

<< Comment #113 @ 09:06 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #107

just get fired and enjoy your life :D

Edited by xemorx at 09:08 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #117 @ 09:19 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ '

FOUND EM vs RESPECT THE PACO.

After a profound analysis, this is the best game to spectate in the first round!

Respect The Paco has decent ctf players

<< Comment #118 @ 09:24 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff

Hello guyz.

Plz gather demos from matches.

j/k

LOL

Edited by Badb0y at 09:33 CDT, 24 July 2015

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Lorfa '

DEMOS CONFIGS VODS

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<< Comment #123 @ 10:28 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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A1RMAN - Reply to #122

F

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mouse* - Reply to #123

O

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xemorx - Reply to #125

C

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harosh - Reply to #134

O

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mouse* - Reply to #137

O

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #138

L

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xemorx - Reply to #139

D

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #141

I

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harosh - Reply to #157

C

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7ep3s - Reply to #209

K

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #212

S

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xemorx - Reply to #229

O

<< Comment #457 @ 10:11 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Freiya - Reply to #122

PRIZE MONI

<< Comment #124 @ 10:42 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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8952341

Kappa in b4 we never see cypher strenx clawz team or rapha zero4 team ever play because stream schedule, just like yesterday Kappa

<< Comment #126 @ 10:53 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Mirio

producer you are so dead .. brb

<< Comment #127 @ 10:54 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

Something totally missing this year are player cams, which were available previous times. At least a general cam of the playing are while theyre warming up, it feels really detached to have a lan but no video of the playing area.

<< Comment #128 @ 10:55 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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iavoal

Its on, btw.
www.twitch.tv/quakecon

Edited by iavoal at 10:56 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #432 @ 05:32 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Rothaarig3 - Reply to #128

he too :)))

http://www.twitch.tv/k1llsen_
http://www.twitch.tv/k1llsen_/profile/past_broadcasts

<< Comment #131 @ 11:00 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

Sync hates Argentina? Yesterday first tdm match of CC vs 102, today first ctf match of CC vs Breaking the curse. Why a middle of the table team is facing top seeds on both tournaments in first match?

Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 11:00 CDT, 24 July 2015

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #131

Wow how come no one thought about this before, it must be sync's early childhood trauma with those damn Argentinians!

This whole tournament is one big racist congregation so the whole world can laugh at Argentina, it must be.

<< Comment #135 @ 11:18 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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nex1 : - Reply to #131

Or maybe you're just obsessed over south america. Like with the whole Suarez situation.

<< Comment #136 @ 11:24 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #135

FU LOBSTER

Im just obsessed yes, not like fifa has been proven to be a corrupt shithole

NEXT

<< Comment #142 @ 11:48 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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nex1 : - Reply to #136

Not like biting players shouldn't be punished

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Freiya - Reply to #136

Like it matters.

<< Comment #147 @ 11:58 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gienon - Reply to #131

Don't you ever leave this site. You're a treasure in the truest sense of the word.

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<< Comment #133 @ 11:08 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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faerie_

Glad to see the faceit staff still doesn't understand the meaning of production values.

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<< Comment #140 @ 11:38 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #133

THIS

<< Comment #145 @ 11:54 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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M1zzu - Reply to #133

I don't think I could give a fuck either for 2k people when I'm used to 50k. And they probably got the schedule like 5 min before the specs.

Edited by M1zzu at 12:18 CDT, 24 July 2015

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faerie_ - Reply to #145

I'm not talking about that. I'm not even blaming them for the stream settings themselves.

The color balance on the jehar+zoot cam has been fucked since the start : given they both look like zombies, the white in the quakecon logo is pinkish and the yellow logos are orange, some retard saw too much red and....turned the saturation way down.

The couch cam yesterday had a fucking floodlight and was overexposed to shit. The one on the stream right now ( Memento / Mesita / Linkin ) has the same fucking floodlight blasting people so hard that Memento's face looks like it's made of rubber.

Some dumb fuck checked the stream on the streaming machine earlier today, Skype somehow went up. Jehar's nick still hasn't been fixed. Minor issues piling up.

Basically, it's still the same absolute lack of fucks given to not being a piece of shit with standards lower than the earth's crust showcased proudly by the same happy go lucky people who already couldn't handle anything properly 3+ years ago. They wanted to be tv and it was shit. They still want to be tv, it's still shit.

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<< Comment #144 @ 11:53 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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dru1d

The casters are putting me to sleep.

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #144

yeah yesterday was the same, zoot and jehar not looking hyped at all

<< Comment #152 @ 12:07 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #148

I'm not even kidding, one hour and I feel like I've necked a horse tranquilizer. Well at least I have plenty of time for a fucking nap until the next game.

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<< Comment #155 @ 12:08 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #152

lol

<< Comment #404 @ 21:22 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #144

That's like watching fireworks and complaining that the sound is not loud enough.

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dru1d - Reply to #404

Fireworks are just explosions. They couldn't possibly be expected to hold the responsibility of making the overall display look and sound incredibly awesome to bring in new viewers and pyrotechnic engineers. Only people with real passion and skiill can do such a thing..

<< Comment #410 @ 22:04 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #409

There's a difference between being loud and being skillful.

<< Comment #146 @ 11:56 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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kolo

looks like we are going to see 4 matches....noice

i dont usually whine here, but this is the worst qcon ive ever seen, apart from that epic quake logo spinning countless hours

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<< Comment #149 @ 12:02 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #146

They aimed high and.... failed

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #146

"this is the worst qcon ive ever seen"

Notice how we, as a community repeat that year after year?

It's almost unthinkable how the bar could get any lower, and yet...

<< Comment #150 @ 12:04 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Dird

BREAK vs Anything is possible

Breaking the curse: United States of America DaHanG, Canada id_, United States of America whaz, United States of America kgb

Anything is Possible: United States of America Br1ck, United States of America Fear, United States of America Avenged, Canada Effortless

<< Comment #151 @ 12:06 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

stream GHS vs MD next plox, want to see how Chilean CTF rates with a world class oponent.

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<< Comment #156 @ 12:08 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Dird - Reply to #151

fu! seed 1 vs seed 5!

<< Comment #160 @ 12:09 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #156

fu lobster, two american teams zzzzz, while ghs traveled zillions of kilometers to not have even 1 match streamed?

<< Comment #164 @ 12:13 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Dird - Reply to #160

they've probably been living in texas illegally for years

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #164

LOL

<< Comment #163 @ 12:13 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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fau - Reply to #156

Everyone knows these seeds are correct anyway.

<< Comment #165 @ 12:13 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #156

i win yeah :D

<< Comment #179 @ 12:19 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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fau - Reply to #151

Was GHS the better CTF team out of south american ones?

Edited by fau at 12:19 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #203 @ 13:06 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #179

i think so, chileans only play ctf

<< Comment #153 @ 12:07 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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blau

Round One: 6 out of 8 games were mercylimited in all 3 maps

<< Comment #158 @ 12:08 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Fearghas

Averagers vs 102 or Found em vs iGamerZ. Fuck me, I want to watch both.

<< Comment #159 @ 12:08 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ '

MD vs GhostSquad

CMON THIS

<< Comment #161 @ 12:11 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #159

will be 8-0 and 3-0. 102 vs avg and found em vs iG are the good ones.

big up production showing one game per round. well fucking done.

<< Comment #166 @ 12:14 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #161

I doubt it will be like that, u dont know shit about CTF m8.

IG vs FoundEM, that will be 8-0. Same as 102 vs AVG....

GhostSquad is an actual CTF team u know?

<< Comment #168 @ 12:15 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #166

you mean 0-8 ?

<< Comment #171 @ 12:16 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #168

yep

<< Comment #175 @ 12:17 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Crotazzo - Reply to #168

same... iG 0 - 8 FoundEm ... right?

<< Comment #176 @ 12:17 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #166

kid dont teach me about ctf

<< Comment #180 @ 12:20 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #176

Dude u had to leave CTFpickup because you were too bad for that :D

<< Comment #185 @ 12:35 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #180

i never had to leave ctfpickup i dont know where you have your believes from. i had a fair share of good matches in the leagues and tournaments. you on the other hand i dont know who you are. check your facts mate.

<< Comment #188 @ 12:37 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Crotazzo - Reply to #185

omg longest dick i�ve seen on a forum!!

<< Comment #189 @ 12:44 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #188

quite average tbh

<< Comment #216 @ 13:25 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #185

Well they bullied you away, because you sucked too much. And then naturally you didnt come back.

<< Comment #220 @ 13:31 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #216

lolno now you are making shit up.

<< Comment #223 @ 13:40 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #220

Sure lol

<< Comment #224 @ 13:47 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #223

jup lol

<< Comment #169 @ 12:16 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #161

I want to watch all 3.

I really doubt that ghostsquad could hang with MD, maybe if they were against IG/averagers/102 then .. but not vs MD.

So I think we should watch found em vs ig

because 102 at ctf is fucking bad.

Edited by jamalz at 12:19 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #174 @ 12:16 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #169

ig is fuckin bad at ctf too, m8

<< Comment #178 @ 12:19 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #174

loled

<< Comment #211 @ 13:11 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #161

"will be 8-0"

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<< Comment #219 @ 13:30 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #211

upsets happen, cool games not gonna complain

<< Comment #167 @ 12:15 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Crotazzo

Averagers vs deliberate
Foundem vs igamers
Meltdown vs ghostsquad

in that order

<< Comment #170 @ 12:16 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Crotazzo

Meltdown vs ghostsquad confirmed!

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<< Comment #177 @ 12:18 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen '

Anyone asking for demos and such should check this thread out.

<< Comment #183 @ 12:30 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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zealot - Reply to #177

What about cfgs/demos, will they be saved somewhere?
- cfg and demos will be but you wont be able to playback demos since they're on the steamworks version which changes the protocol

<< Comment #181 @ 12:20 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gienon

Hopefully GS beat MD. We'll then know for sure that Quakecon isn't a conspiracy.

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<< Comment #184 @ 12:30 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #181

This is it. This is the ONLY fucking time I get hyped for a south American team or player to do something in quake.

IM SPRAYING JIZZ EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by jamalz at 13:05 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #257 @ 14:38 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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CENEk - Reply to #184

Uhm, how about

E L P A J U O
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<< Comment #267 @ 15:27 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #257

disappeared mate

<< Comment #182 @ 12:29 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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sonic

how about streaming some games. any fucking games. but no, let's stream a schedule page and play shit music

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<< Comment #186 @ 12:36 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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flocks - Reply to #182

At least the spinny logo moved around. We've actually managed to take a step backwards from previous years with this static break time screen.

#freespinnylogo

<< Comment #190 @ 12:52 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Fearghas

These rails on cp9 by ghost squad. MD is trying to rj across mid just to get into their base. This is nuts.

<< Comment #191 @ 12:54 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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frs

the first interesting ctf game i've ever seen that didnt have a finnish player

<< Comment #459 @ 10:17 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Freiya - Reply to #191

I c wat yu did der.

<< Comment #192 @ 13:02 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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ZeriouS

C T F
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<< Comment #193 @ 13:04 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

GET FUCKED MELTDOWN MOTHERFUCKERS GOT 4 SCARFACES SHOOTING UP YOUR FUCKING HOUSE SON

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<< Comment #204 @ 13:06 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #193

I love how you posted the same thing yesterday for 102, but today you played it smart and waited for the match to end q:D

<< Comment #194 @ 13:04 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

See dird? Hoping you learn to chose better games next time...

G H S
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Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 13:05 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #201 @ 13:06 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Dird - Reply to #194

S M A L L _ T A B L E
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<< Comment #195 @ 13:05 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Dird

OK....GHS-MD good choice :o

<< Comment #196 @ 13:05 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILE !!!!!!!!!!

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<< Comment #197 @ 13:05 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen '

QUAKECON IS A CONSPIRACY AGAINST EU PLAYERS

SYNC DID THIS ON PURPOSE

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<< Comment #207 @ 13:08 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #197

CC getting both top seeded teams in tdm and ctf in first match is a fact, not a conspiracy. Youre kind of funny tho, i must admit your trolling skills are improving.

<< Comment #222 @ 13:38 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #207

Holy shit, I can't believe my fucking eye, that double-crossing twat just helped MD get a flat out 7:0 WIN!

QUAKECON IS ONCE AGAIN A CONSPIRACY AGAINST CHINESE PLAYERS!

SYNC CAPPED ALL 6 FLAGS VS CHINA

<< Comment #233 @ 14:00 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #207

Low seeded teams always get paired with top seeded teams in their first math. That's how all tournaments work, in everything.

If a lower seeded team says they deserve a better seeding then they must earn it by beating better teams. However, it's quite clear "CC" and its players do not deserve a better seed than their current ones, to the point maybe they should be further lowered. This is the second event in a row in which they haven't been able to take a single map out of a single mid-seeded team or individual player at any gametype, let alone out of a top team or player, so their lower seeding than those does match their results.

In other words, the system used in this tournament isn't based on randomness, isn't something created by Syncerror and, most importantly, certainly isn't made to harm a specific team. CC did not happen to be unluckily paired with the top seeded teams, as you said is a fact, but the complete opposite (not random and 100% based on results).

edit: Suarez should have been punished way more severely and you know it. It was like the fourth bite in his career.

Edited by megaman3 at 14:46 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #198 @ 13:05 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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kolo

maaaaaaaan that cp9!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #199 @ 13:05 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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frs

pablo escobars made ctf interesting

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<< Comment #200 @ 13:06 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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PerpetualWar

Wow... mad respect for Chillean crew

<< Comment #202 @ 13:06 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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fuzz

quake con

<< Comment #206 @ 13:07 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Ephemix

M E S I T A
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<< Comment #208 @ 13:10 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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ZeriouS

OMG GHOST SQUAD - YOU GOTTA DO SOME JUSTICE FOR THE LATIN AMERICAN COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO THE PRO-F�TBOL-PLAYERS FROM CHILE. DALE! RESPETO!!

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<< Comment #210 @ 13:11 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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7ep3s

RESPECT THE CHILEAN TACOS

<< Comment #213 @ 13:19 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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adrenal1ne

MD throws map to get easier later round, nothing to see here

<< Comment #218 @ 13:29 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #213

haha. no

<< Comment #227 @ 13:53 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #213

haha. no

<< Comment #214 @ 13:19 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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sonic

bulat is cofe

<< Comment #215 @ 13:22 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #214

dont intelegent (c).

Edited by iavoal at 13:52 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #217 @ 13:26 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #215

ey capitalists say me when final

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<< Comment #221 @ 13:34 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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lithz

g H s
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<< Comment #225 @ 13:51 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

I can clearly see mesita and vodkax are really damn good. They just need a flag D that can time items rofl

HAHAHA found'em got raped

OK next

Break vs meltdown baby I got my jizz bucket ready

Edited by jamalz at 14:00 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #228 @ 13:54 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

That first md vs ghs match has to be match of the ctf tournament.

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<< Comment #232 @ 14:00 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #228

What about the second one?

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<< Comment #234 @ 14:01 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #228

I haven't jizzed that hard since 2010 cooller vs cypher aerowalk.

That was fucking worth it

<< Comment #249 @ 14:31 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #234

Yeah it was, at least for tru quake lovers it was one of those moments you hardly forget, 26 mins to see one cap, the amoun of cum pressure that builds is insane.

Then you have sad sad people like Teen Queen always shitting and playing his smartass sarcasm role to balance the equation out with his negativity.

Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 14:31 CDT, 24 July 2015

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magadog - Reply to #228

I enjoyed it, either that or maybe AVG's win vs MD, also MD vs break had a really close couple of games IIRC. Also the iG game that had a 20 min overtime was probably good :)

I do wonder if ghs had a chance to practice the newer maps vs teams like MD and AVG if they could have won. They all had MD-like talent. I mean those guys on Spider were just as impressive to spec as any of the MD players.

Edited by magadog at 23:32 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #230 @ 13:58 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ '

Memento_mori is so weird

<< Comment #243 @ 14:13 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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blau - Reply to #230

actually no, that is just his muted mic

<< Comment #290 @ 17:08 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #243

Im talking about his body language

<< Comment #231 @ 13:59 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Mirio

iG beat raffer team :D

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<< Comment #235 @ 14:01 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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adrenal1ne - Reply to #231

hopefully demos..

<< Comment #237 @ 14:03 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo + - Reply to #231

L O L
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<< Comment #236 @ 14:03 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Dird

inb4 MD-BREAK semis whine. valid though

I hope iG beat AVG after they said they played awful in pracs ;o

Edited by Dird at 14:05 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #238 @ 14:04 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ '

BREAK vs MD

good one. awaited one

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<< Comment #239 @ 14:06 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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ZeriouS

No interview with Ghost Squad?

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<< Comment #242 @ 14:09 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #239

THIS

<< Comment #255 @ 14:35 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #239

Welcone to M E L T C O N

<< Comment #240 @ 14:09 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih

respect the pacos from chile. First map was craze.

I hope they'll go versus Raffer's team next round and hopefully the can iG the muricans again

<< Comment #241 @ 14:09 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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johnny83

What? Igamerz def Found em?

<< Comment #244 @ 14:17 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (79.102.219.93)

Break - MD

Id rather see AVG - IG

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<< Comment #245 @ 14:25 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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iavoal

What is the highest possible place in CTF any team that lost already can achieve?

<< Comment #247 @ 14:26 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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blau - Reply to #245

1st

<< Comment #250 @ 14:31 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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fau - Reply to #247

2nd. Winners of avg - ig and break - md will play in the 4th round. Whoever wins this will have 4-0 record.

Edited by fau at 14:33 CDT, 24 July 2015

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blau - Reply to #250

ye, but it is, in general, possible to win the thing even with one round lost, right? (not sure about the pairing rules tho)

<< Comment #272 @ 16:14 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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fau - Reply to #270

I guess so. Just not at that point of the tournament.

<< Comment #253 @ 14:32 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #245

the teams that lost but won a map in defeat can still end up 2nd in CTF with 16 points

<< Comment #252 @ 14:32 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

M E L T C O N
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<< Comment #254 @ 14:33 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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iavoal

Ghost Squad vs MD was a great match and an interesting case.
I wonder, if its beneficial for the weakest team to try to drag an opponents into the overtime? (Sure it won't work on a fast map like Iron Works).

For example, in chess, when players compete in a knockout tourney, its a well-known strategy for the underdog to play for a draw and ultra-safe, because each next game will be with a shorter time-control and the price of mistake will rise exponentally, improving the chances of underdog.

Edited by iavoal at 14:35 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #285 @ 16:42 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (181.114.128.232) - Reply to #254

yeah but ghs wasnt playing safe, they had no player defending the base, all center, thats very risky, i think they played a few mins of the last match bad at the begging, if not they could have won it

<< Comment #405 @ 21:23 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #254

I wonder, if its beneficial for the weakest team to try to drag an opponents into the overtime?

Overtime is more random, so from that perspective yes. But in ctf overtime, tdm skills (just fragging the opponent & raw aim) become more important, so there is that to consider as well.

<< Comment #256 @ 14:37 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih

LULZ at pairings once again. Out of the 8 teams with 1 win and 1 loss the best 4 got paired against eachother :DDDDD

<< Comment #259 @ 15:03 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih

"If break wins Japaneese castel, i think dahang can go to infinity ... and beyond" Jehar 2015

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<< Comment #417 @ 01:36 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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FlashSoul - Reply to #259

Ahah, the buzz. I didn't catch that.

<< Comment #260 @ 15:22 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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adrenal1ne

kgb really is cursed

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<< Comment #280 @ 16:25 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #260

he deserves it tho

<< Comment #261 @ 15:22 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Mirio

E U
U

<< Comment #262 @ 15:23 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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vanqu1sh

RIP USA [*]

<< Comment #263 @ 15:23 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Dird

Americants, gg

<< Comment #264 @ 15:23 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen '

got banned for spaming #JustToxThings and I don't even mind it.

Great fuckikng job MD, amazing matches.

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<< Comment #265 @ 15:25 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Lw)f

M U R I C A
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Y
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<< Comment #266 @ 15:25 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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sonic

Edited by sonic at 15:28 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #268 @ 15:30 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Fearghas

Looks like NA shot itself in the foot with all the team switching/drama this year.

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<< Comment #269 @ 15:32 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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iavoal

MD turned this peaceful familiy celebration style Qcon into a #BrutalGiantRobotsBukkakeHentai.

Edited by iavoal at 16:07 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #291 @ 17:09 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (93.73.34.215)

K E K C O N
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<< Comment #273 @ 16:16 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse*

"gg no re" (c)EU

<< Comment #274 @ 16:18 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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kolo

Averagers vs MD next Kreygasm

I admire tox , but wish the best of luck to averagers, those guys do really deserve/need it :D

Edited by kolo at 16:18 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #275 @ 16:19 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

I don't understand the grandmaster duel shit, it says the top 2 from the duel portion will play again in the grand master? So just a rematch?

Or do they add up duel+ctf+tdm for points and then the top 2 teams send in 1 dueler for that final...

Edited by jamalz at 16:20 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #279 @ 16:24 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #275

i second to question that issue

<< Comment #282 @ 16:29 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Venser - Reply to #275

Yeah it's really weird. It's like the grand master duel is just a showmatch for the main stage. Maybe they'll make it best of 1 so it saves more time for bawls chugging and other retarded minigames.

Edited by Venser at 16:33 CDT, 24 July 2015

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FlashSoul - Reply to #282

It's Bo5.

<< Comment #293 @ 17:09 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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imdaniel - Reply to #275

was wondering the same but the OP is well made : click tournament ruels URL, first paragraph is quite clear : http://cdnstatic.bethsoft.com/quakecon.org/20...-Rules.pdf

The Quake Live TriMaster Tournament will feature competitions for up to sixteen (16) four - player teams, where each team will be put to the test in a triathlon comprised of Capture the Flag (CTF), Team Deathmatch (TDM), and Duel to determine which team can stake their claim to being the one true TriMaster
Champion. Teams who come out on top will share prizes of $32,000. Following the Triathlon Tournament, the top two individual duelers selected by their team will then face off to claim an additional $8,000 and the title of Grand Master Champion.

<< Comment #305 @ 17:35 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #293

I read that already, if that's the case.. WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE POINTS FOR?

Or are you telling me that..

Whoever wins the duel tournament doesnt get $8k.

But his team gets the points. And then whichever team is the top from duel+ctf+tdm get that $8k?

And after that the top two players who just played duel, go into the grand masters for their actual money?

So rapha and cypher can be the top 2 in duel, first rapha wins (gets no cash, but his team gets points) Then rapha has to duel cypher again in the grand finale for his $8k?

Thats fucking gay^^^^^^^^^^^^

Edited by jamalz at 17:42 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #347 @ 18:04 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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imdaniel - Reply to #305

there is basicaly no duel tournament as i understood only 2 players qualified and then a showmatch for 8k within the wining team ie : tox vs winz.

am i wrong?

<< Comment #366 @ 18:26 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #347

you are wrong, cooller vs dahang

<< Comment #382 @ 18:42 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #347

you are wrong. There will be a duel swiss tournament with the same rules, structure and prize as TDM and CTF. Then top2 from that part of the tournament play an additional finals for 8k.

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<< Comment #380 @ 18:41 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #305

It's the opposite, if you win the duel "swiss" part you get 8k. Then the duel additional final is up between the top 2 duelers placed in this tournament for an additional 8k.

Also the 2nd finals might have a different competitor since if you lose the "final" of the swiss you might still end up third or fourth like AVG did the CTF tournament.

<< Comment #393 @ 19:00 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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imdaniel - Reply to #380

the 8k is for the duel btw the 2 top teams duelers. For the duel swiss part tournament there is the shared 32k price pool shared withing the top teams, top teams means the 2 at the top i would guess.

The explanation is tedious and you need to watch out for the plural.

The format is interresting!

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FlashSoul - Reply to #393

There is 16k in prize money for duel. 8k for the TEAM with the most points in the duel swiss tournament and 8k for the INDIVIDUAL selected by the two top teams from the previous duel portion which wins the bo5.

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endstufe - Reply to #305

Prize Distribution
$40,000 in prize money:
1. CTF Division Victors: $8,000
2. TDM Division Victors: $8,000
3. Duel Division Victors: $8,000
4. Tri-Master Champions: $8,000
5. Duel Grand Master: $8,000

<< Comment #276 @ 16:19 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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zfred

U.S.A

<< Comment #277 @ 16:21 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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faerie_

Congratulations Fazz !

When's the baby due ?

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sonic - Reply to #277

Edited by sonic at 16:23 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #365 @ 18:23 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #278

Seriously, what are you trying to achieve? If any.

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zfred - Reply to #365

one goal ! supreme ruler

thanks to that you can have girls, money, drugs......

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Freiya - Reply to #420

Nah.

<< Comment #281 @ 16:28 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ '

Jehar already bringing the excuses for the NA teams...

...cute

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<< Comment #283 @ 16:30 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

<< Comment #284 @ 16:32 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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kevz

stream goes down and averagers are 1-0 ahead

RIGGED! :>

<< Comment #421 @ 02:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Dird - Reply to #284

is that map 3?
http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8447599 freezes @ 3:00 then next thing I know AVG capped =/

<< Comment #286 @ 16:47 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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dru1d

lol@quakecon

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<< Comment #287 @ 16:55 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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iavoal

stream goes down in overtime and averagers capped the 3th.

� \ _ (;/) _ / �

Edited by iavoal at 16:56 CDT, 24 July 2015

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iavoal

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<< Comment #289 @ 16:59 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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ultra

Got bored of the Twitch stream buggering up during the avg. vs md jap castles match. Going to call it a day now - sure there will be some vods somewhere.

<< Comment #433 @ 05:40 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Rothaarig3 - Reply to #289

LOL

http://esreality.com/post/2745832/re-show-mat...pid2745832

Well, the comments i saw on the twitch chat are your kind of conversation then ...

I guess not all the 6700 visitors at the end are playing Quake or have ever played ...

<< Comment #294 @ 17:13 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih

Tox figured out ctf. Own these 100-0 attackers for two rotations, get 200-200, slowly push, get cap by with a 8 frags killing streak

Edited by qwih at 17:14 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #295 @ 17:20 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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zilis

"That rocket jump was perfect and dem0n caps" stream freezes for 10 seconds and we didn't see anything...

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<< Comment #296 @ 17:24 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

Why a huge streamer like twitch, that streamed evo finals for 160k no problems, always have insane amount of lag when quake goes past 5k or in big matches like finals? ALWAYS THE SAME SHIT

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<< Comment #298 @ 17:27 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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odellus - Reply to #296

it's not twitch, it's the incompetent production team.

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xemorx - Reply to #298

no incompetent, just couldn't care less

<< Comment #308 @ 17:37 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #296

It's most likely inadequate bandwidth from quakecons side. The head staff probably gave priority to everything but the quake stream. Same shit different year. Notice how you only see the odd glimpse of a Faceit logo, hiding behind the casters, even they don't want to be associated with that shit. I'm sure they're doing wonders with the resources and shitty schedule they're given.

<< Comment #406 @ 21:25 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #296

If the stream only lags with 5+k viewers then it's Twitch, if the lags are independent from the amount of viewers then it's Qcon. Could be a coincidence that the lags only started when the stream got many viewers.

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b0ltzmann - Reply to #296

IT'S AN ANTI-QUAKE CONSPIRACY

<< Comment #297 @ 17:25 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

TELL PRODUCTION TO STOP FUCKING WITH THE STREAM IN THE FINALS THEY ARE LAGGING IT TRYING TO PUT PICTURE IN PICTURE OF THE PLAYERS WTF

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<< Comment #304 @ 17:35 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #297

Brilliant idea to try that out in the grand final of CTF

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<< Comment #299 @ 17:28 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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nex1 :

Lagcon

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flocks - Reply to #299

This is the most exciting slide show of all time! *\o/*

<< Comment #301 @ 17:32 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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sonic

<the_xxx> THAT GUY CAPPED AGAIN FOR MD! IS HE EVEN ALLOWED IN THERE? SECURITY PLEASE

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Emenike

Is there so cold?

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<< Comment #306 @ 17:35 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #302

what a wigger :D

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #302

Its probably to get less distracted with the enviroment, hard to grasp stuff for lower lifeforms like u.

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lolograde ' - Reply to #302

There is so lol

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dru1d - Reply to #302

Edited by dru1d at 17:51 CDT, 24 July 2015

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #329

HAHAHA I FUCKING LOLED

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xemorx - Reply to #329

lollied too

<< Comment #303 @ 17:34 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

god damnit all cant we get fuckin quakecon in the uk or sweden or something where the people actually care about quake, instead of these fat shit american faggots

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<< Comment #307 @ 17:36 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #303

accidentally pluss'd.

Blame Faceit. Really.

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kevz - Reply to #307

naw, faceit know what theyre doing. i just think they hit a hardware limit or issue somewhere with their creativity. normally things go smooth when it comes to csgo.

sucks there were so many lags conveniently during key moments, but good match nonetheless :)

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #312

Ur english is confusing m8

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kevz - Reply to #319

hows that? cuz i leave out a bunch of words? :P

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #328

The grammar of the last sentence is a bit fucked, but I get what u mean, its alright

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dru1d - Reply to #307

Faceit streams are pretty much flawless everywhere except quakecon. That should tell you something. Believe me without faceit it would have been much, MUCH worse.

Edited by dru1d at 17:56 CDT, 24 July 2015

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #334

Well ok, Ill believe you. Then I guess my hate should be redirected towards Syncerror and friends (as usual)

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dru1d - Reply to #338

No, Syncerror is one of the few people who actually does give a shit about Quake Live. I mean It's his job ffs. He deserves a fucking medal just for the amount of shit he's had to deal with in the last 10 years.

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<< Comment #355 @ 18:10 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #351

So who else can I blame?

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dru1d - Reply to #355

You can blame yourself for expecting something that will likely never happen - A lagless Quakecon stream.

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Anonymous (85.138.167.150) - Reply to #364

he is right. syncerror is in charge of these problem. cannot blame other. yes he is ql dev but this do not mean he care about game. i think after 6 years this is true. 6 years of quakecon fails. same problems because no care is given.

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #364

No man I blame you for not warning me earlier

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Dird - Reply to #355

sepp blatter

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #422

Nah Im one of the few people who believe Fifa is mostly doing fine. Its just that USA felt like going on a crusade

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M1zzu - Reply to #334

case in point, the 5k$ tourney 2 weeks ago was flawless,. And they got 2gd to cast.

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flocks - Reply to #303

lol canada

hey sync take qcon up north next year. you can have maple syrup beer and moose bawls sucking

<< Comment #316 @ 17:41 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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lolograde ' - Reply to #303

Hyperbolez

<< Comment #309 @ 17:38 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ '

Lol Zyrinx. Too shy to talk IRL, but trashtalks online like a pro. Typical nolife-nerd

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #309

100% this, what a keyboard warrior

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flocks - Reply to #311

At least Zyrinx doesn't bite his opponents mid-match

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weltschmerz - Reply to #321

It's ok to take a bite off Italians though. They're tasty.

<< Comment #314 @ 17:41 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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kevz - Reply to #309

lol'd though.

besides in those interviews there was not much to say after linkin winz and tox gave their perspectives... it all came down to the same.

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #314

M8 did u notice his bodylanguage? He seemed like he was uncomfortable and nervous as fuck

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kevz - Reply to #317

all that adderall.. :P

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<< Comment #337 @ 17:58 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ ' - Reply to #330

Lol yea, who knows, tbh I wouldnt even be surprised. Makes me a little bit sad tho :<

<< Comment #318 @ 17:43 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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noctis

QuakeCon to second or third placers:
Go fuck yourself you get fuck all.

Fun tournament. ;)

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<< Comment #322 @ 17:46 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #318

wp gg.

dem0n defrag harosh

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Rothaarig3 - Reply to #322

dem0n ia awesome, the rockets always on point, much underrated ...

of course the commentators did not mention that he came from CTF lol ...

"CTF arenas only"

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/arenas/dem0n
http://www.qlranks.com/ctf/player/dem0n

<< Comment #325 @ 17:48 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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nsx0r - Reply to #318

AVG #1 Buchholz that's what matters ggs

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imdaniel - Reply to #318

Salivating Monstahz!

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #318

I understand money is important, but those games, youre making fucking history dude.

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xemorx - Reply to #335

He understands history is important, but those games, he was after fucking money, dude.

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Raist - Reply to #318

I still remember how that feels too :(

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weltschmerz - Reply to #318

That's kind of a late complaint though. Still thanks a lot for a genuinely awesome showing.

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noctis - Reply to #357

It's not like we told them that 3 months ago, and 2 months ago... and 1 month ago ;)

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weltschmerz - Reply to #402

Fair enough. But it's looking kind of odd that you're coming forward with this right after losing that final. One immediately wonders if you had said the same thing in case you had won, or if you had rather preferred to silently take the money.

But I agree. It stinks. And not only for 2nd and 3rd. And I *will definitely not* be rooting for tox today. The idea that those guys should take home literally all that money is completely ludicrous.

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noctis - Reply to #436

I didn't "come forward with it". Just reiterating how dumb the whole system is and obviously its the most "fresh on my mind" right after placing 2nd or 3rd (i dont even know which with this system) in both tournaments.

People used to complain when only top3 got anything and everyone was happy when WSVG spread it out further to top8 or even top16. This tourney really feels like a punch in your guts for anyone placing slightly below first.

I just hope they never do that again but eh... its qcon, i'm sure theyll manage to "top" this.

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weltschmerz - Reply to #448

Believe me, I'm just as sad. I've seen all the effort you guys put into this. And you've come a long way, as a team. It's a shame you're not being rewarded in any way for your excellent performance, and it's things like this that make me consistently feel bad about this gaming business. It's not being handled like it is in real sports.

The reason for the approach here is clear I guess There's just so much money they want to spend but the winner's prize still has to look "spectacular". It's totally idiotic and, in essence, a sham.

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #318

Should have asked for community support duh, maybe even promise an aftermovie just for the kicks.

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<< Comment #440 @ 07:23 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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harosh - Reply to #363

too soon?

never too soon :>

<< Comment #407 @ 21:30 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #318

QuakeCon to second or third placers:
Go fuck yourself you get fuck all.

Fun tournament. ;)

And you realized this only after arriving in Dallas?

<< Comment #320 @ 17:45 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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iavoal

"Look how many of these multi-povs we could lag simultaneously!!!"

Edited by iavoal at 17:56 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #323 @ 17:47 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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dem0n

Zyrinx is a bloody idiot tbf.

Ggs linkin and tox tho. :)

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<< Comment #327 @ 17:48 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #323

I missed it :-/

Edited by Skinny_Puppy at 17:51 CDT, 24 July 2015

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #327

Dealt a ton of dmg and sh*t load of frags... I'd hate him too if I played against him ;)

<< Comment #331 @ 17:53 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #323

what about winz?

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xemorx - Reply to #331

who is winz?

<< Comment #478 @ 18:43 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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Therealcmss - Reply to #323

Why is zyrinx an idiot?

<< Comment #326 @ 17:48 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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MailmanMel

Quakecon organiser could throw in a second mic for the interviews

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xemorx - Reply to #326

2 expensive sorry

Edited by xemorx at 18:00 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #352 @ 18:08 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #326

Nonsense. That sweat needs to be shared and passed around.

<< Comment #353 @ 18:09 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #326

It is indeed less efficient with one mic, but they just interviewed Meltdown five times until they got all the answers they wanted.

<< Comment #379 @ 18:41 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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MailmanMel - Reply to #353

Same questions, slightly different answers.

<< Comment #340 @ 17:59 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Venser

Cool trophy

[img1]

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Infuscomus

QUAKECON 2015 DAY 2 - CTF VODS (probably no sound... but it works for me at home) :

http://www.esportactu.fr/competition/2656-qua...r-ctf/vod/

The VOD of the final has been separated into many parts, probably because of the technical issues they have been through. You'll find the parts on the left side anyway.

Edited by Infuscomus at 18:09 CDT, 24 July 2015

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Rothaarig3 - Reply to #343

Sound confirmed on Linux with Chrome(ium) :)

Donload confirmed :)

time=00:02:43.93 bitrate=3326.4kbits/s

<< Comment #344 @ 18:02 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR '

6k right while noctis midair, coincidence, i think not!

Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 18:02 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #345 @ 18:02 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Venser

CTF stats

http://i.imgur.com/etQ3agI.png

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Emenike - Reply to #345

Edited by Emenike at 18:06 CDT, 24 July 2015

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qwih - Reply to #348

latrommi top10 both in defends and in caps. We can only dream about the ruski's nextlevel brainfuck inducing strats that made this possible lol

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fau - Reply to #361

They won all their hard games with 1-0 score. I bet they got the cap and played tdm. Or waited until 10 sec spawn delay and played tdm =D

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<< Comment #371 @ 18:35 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #370

lol

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qwih - Reply to #370

lol they mighe have also played with 4 defenders and pushed when they had quad. Basically played TDM with the powerups

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xemorx - Reply to #345

evil seems to like capturing flags

Edited by xemorx at 18:16 CDT, 24 July 2015

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qwih - Reply to #349

turns out he's good at pushing with starting health and 1 weapon :D

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Emenike - Reply to #354

no, he is a god of rocket jumps :D

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Lamur - Reply to #349

Evil \o/

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<< Comment #358 @ 18:15 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Maestrooo1

Impressive performance by the Euro teams, didn't expect to MD, 102, Avg, iG to be outperforming NA, decent stuff!

So this is the first time the CTF title is going to an European team, nice!

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<< Comment #360 @ 18:19 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Disrepute - Reply to #358

Basically because it had TDM, Europe bothered to send its best players and more than one team.

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<< Comment #367 @ 18:27 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #360

god bless the europe

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weltschmerz - Reply to #360

Yeah it was really awesome of Europe to sponsor and send all those players over. Given the special occasion I mean.

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xemorx - Reply to #368

Europe can be very generous.

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weltschmerz - Reply to #369

Indeed! In particular, Europe loves quake more than anything else. Money no problem. Part of the contract.

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<< Comment #375 @ 18:38 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Emenike - Reply to #368

I'm sorry who sponsored avg?

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Maestrooo1 - Reply to #375

2gd, Memento_Mori

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xemorx - Reply to #378

europe, in one word

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weltschmerz - Reply to #381

Precisely. Europe is happy to take care of all expenses. Because of tdm, obviously.

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Maestrooo1 - Reply to #368

And it is also nice by NA teams to cause so much drama last 3 months. I enjoyed it, it eventually brought nothing to the table.

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Disrepute - Reply to #368

Greece covered all costs. I hear they are flush with cash.

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #360

But surely this is not about TDM

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Disrepute - Reply to #373

This time it is. id listened and finally realised they should support teams. It worked. Imagine they had used this format for the last decade. Quake would be in a much stronger position. Quakecon 2015 has proved my point. Thank you sync :)

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weltschmerz - Reply to #423

You're joking, right? They didn't "support" teams, they literally forced all those duellers to come as part of a team, and only as that. Fact is, in terms of cost-benefit this tournament was a huge waste of money. And no, I don't mean for qcon.

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dru1d - Reply to #360

No doubt about it without TDM and CTF it would have been just been another cypher vs rapha/dahang duel again. There's no way all of these world class players would have turned up for duel.

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<< Comment #384 @ 18:46 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #376

quite surprisingly can't but agree. despite the shitty online management the triathlon system made the whole tournament look solid, warming us gradually up to the sweetiest part meant for tomorrow

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Maestrooo1 - Reply to #384

This Swiss tournament thingy ended up nicely, seems like the top teams come up at the top of the tables in the end. Also, being the victor takes all principle the rules turned out nicely. MD didn't lose any game in TDM or CTF so they were rightfully the winner of the total prize pool for TDM and CTF.

Edited by Maestrooo1 at 18:56 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #392 @ 19:00 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #384

Frankly, I'm having some problems agreeing. Do I know if anybody overextended himself, given this was the presumably "last major quake tournament on quakecon ever"? If any of those "thank god we had all those players here" is being left with some serious debt? And who cares? Do you?

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xemorx - Reply to #392

i meant only the perspective of a spectator, the one of the players placing not 1st is very disheartening

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weltschmerz - Reply to #397

Of course, I do prefer the spectator perspective very much myself too. It feels kind of convenient. And we don't even need to feel bad. Because Europe is taking care of all of it, thanks to tdm. I'm so glad I just learned this today.

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dru1d - Reply to #384

Hear, hear brother. Bring on the duels.

Be prepared though, you know what's going to happen. Tight schedule, as many duels played at once as possible, very few games being streamed and before you know it cypher vs rapha + lag fest.

Quakecon in a nutshell.

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scowl - Reply to #358

So this is the first time the CTF title is going to an European team, nice!

No it's not, Against All Authority (StGermain, Raoul, Thefou, Penx) won Quakecon 2004 in CTF.

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Maestrooo1 - Reply to #386

Ok, still impressive though, after such a long time.

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xemorx - Reply to #386

StGermain :)
haven't heard the name for 10 years

Edited by xemorx at 19:13 CDT, 24 July 2015

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nex1 : - Reply to #386

StGermain <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

<< Comment #387 @ 18:51 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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whiskey

Went to the quakecon twitch page and had the entire CTF tournament spoiled for me before I could watch anything.

Sigh.

<< Comment #391 @ 19:00 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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zeroql

Jehar on point! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0ze5aBBZC4&feature=youtu.be

TWiTCH VODS / FOR YOUTUBE YOU WILL NEED TO WAIT

CTF - QUAKECON

found Em! vs. RESPECT THE PACO - Map 1 - Infinity (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8453731
found Em! vs. RESPECT THE PACO - Map 2 - Spider Crossings (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8453960
found Em! vs. RESPECT THE PACO - Map 3 - Japanese Castles (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8454240

Meltdown vs. Ghost Squad - Map 1 - Spider Crossings (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8454613
Meltdown vs. Ghost Squad - Map 2 - IronWorks (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8454836
Meltdown vs. Ghost Squad - Map 3 - Pillbox (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8455095

Meltdown vs. Breaking the curse - Map 1 - IronWorks (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8455419
Meltdown vs. Breaking the curse - Map 2 - Japanese Castles (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8455837
Meltdown vs. Breaking the curse - Map 3 - Infinity (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8456120

Averagers vs. iGamerZ - Map 3 - Spider Crossings (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8456459

Meltdown vs. Averagers - Map 1 - Japanese Castles (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - LOCAL RECORDING
Meltdown vs. Averagers - Map 2 - IronWorks (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8457090
Meltdown vs. Averagers - Map 3 - Infinity (QUAKECON 2015 CTF) - LOCAL RECORDING

Edited by zeroql at 19:15 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #443 @ 07:30 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (85.138.167.150) - Reply to #391

twitch too laggy. hope youtube video come soon

Thanks

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<< Comment #483 @ 07:11 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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Tayski - Reply to #443

this, thanks!

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Rothaarig3 - Reply to #391

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0ze5aBBZC4&hd=1 With FLASH enabled, i only see a blank field FLASH plugin disabled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0ze5aBBZC4&html5=1 With HTML5 enabled, NOW i can see the Vid in my Firefox, since i disabled FLASH plugin on the system !

https://www.youtube.com/html5

Edited by Rothaarig3 at 04:34 CDT, 28 July 2015

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<< Comment #438 @ 07:09 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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cityy - Reply to #435

Did he really say that, haha

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Rothaarig3 - Reply to #438

zeroql should learn how to post YT url's ^ ^

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zeroql - Reply to #452

i will post on youtube soon as i get youtube access :)

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Tayski - Reply to #473

looking forward to it :)

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Tayski - Reply to #452

http://www.esreality.com/post/2753958/quakeco...pid2755665

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scowl

On this episode of "the jinx of Quakecon":

Placements of kgb, all are in CTF unless noted otherwise:

2nd (2008)
2nd (2009)
4th (2010)
2nd (2012)
3rd (duel open 2012)
4th (2014)
3rd (CA 2013)
2nd (2015)

Placements of Spart1e:

2nd (duel 2009)
3rd (CTF 2009)
4th (duel 2010)
2nd (CTF 2010)
1st (TDM 2011)
5th (duel 2014)
3rd (TDM 2015)
3rd (CTF 2015)

Edited by scowl at 19:03 CDT, 24 July 2015

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qwih - Reply to #394

Well spart1e is still the only player in the history of quakelive with a top2 in a major Duel, CTF and TDM tournament. Not bad for a jinxed player :P

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<< Comment #414 @ 23:55 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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sleepii - Reply to #398

i think vor and disrepute talked somewhere about who was the all-rounders of quake, i think the names which came up were czm and spart1e

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eyeK0n - Reply to #414

I agree with thoes names but Tox, stermy, fazz & dahang should also be mentioned.

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scowl - Reply to #398

Yeah, I agree. He appears to be jinxed precisely due to the fact that he's obviously *able* to win much more tournaments than he actually *does*.

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gaiia

> Quakecon is flawed and filled with unnecessary shit.
> Quake is dead.
> Blah blah blah

And how is that any different from what we're used to seeing every year?

Maybe it's about time we all took dkt's advice and got ourselves some kind of a jobs(which grow on jobbies by the way) or some shit. We're way too old for this crap. Seriously.

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dru1d - Reply to #401

dkt blew a 14 point lead. I wouldn't take his advice.

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<< Comment #425 @ 03:02 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Dird

I fell asleep during iG vs AVG and just watched (skimmed through maps 2 & 3)...sucks that the finals lag exists in the VODs also :( missed noctis infinity cap and the "perfect rj"

Edited by Dird at 03:02 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Anonymous (37.201.240.169) - Reply to #425

So true. You mean demons "perfect rj" i suppose.

The lag appeared when he did the rj and the rocketlauncher was facing the ground. Next i could see was that he HAD capped.

it was such a FAILCON moment.

But i have to say, that this stream was the most organized one since years. I remember 2 years ago? There was the L/R sound switched and all the admins were saying was "what is the problem, just switch your headphones too"

<imagine godzilla faceplam.jpg here>

Anyway, CTF was really nice to watch and Zyrinx was completely right with his line he dropped after the game. Sometimes i think, that these players take it a small bit too serious. Its quake man. You HAVE to do risky stuff and be aggressive not only if theres only 1 chance left in the end.
Dont get me wrong. I really see the perfect teamwork, but its like football, the audience wants to see attractive scenes. =)

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XPEHOPE3

Anyone cares to provide all the interview VODs/timestamps?

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Nuked User - Reply to #430

* N U K E D *

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XPEHOPE3 - Reply to #442

Zoot told smth about a ghost squad interview, that should be an interesting watch.

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<< Comment #447 @ 08:18 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Shardik - Reply to #445

+1. Very good team and Mesita is just impressiv in Middle.

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XPEHOPE3 - Reply to #430

I cared a little.

mesita & linkin: http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8413363?t=1h36m11s

winz, tox, zyrinx: http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8413363?t=3h00m32s

tdm recap video: http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8413363?t=3h03m34s

MD vs BREAK 3rd map (Infinity, VOD from zeroql comment removed): http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8413363?t=4h29m15s

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epicus147

https://i.imgur.com/7Y44zrF.jpg

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eyeK0n

It's good to see a EU team finally win CTF. It's clear the NA drama played a major role in the outcome as the NA teams simply weren't as practiced as the EU teams were. BREAK kicking Mr CTF himself viju was a dumb move. KGB's aim once again didn't translate from online to LAN play but he didn't play bad overall. Was great to see gHs play and they took alot of teams by surprise (out aimming MD was lol!). 102 learning to CTF in a few months time was pretty amazing to see aswell. Last but not least I'm glad f-EM got what was coming to them after all the roster changes and drama it didn't help them one bit and they had a very poor showing.

Also very piss poor coverage this year from the shoutcasting, streaming to the shotty routing and constant drops not to mention a joke of a format that was very random/unfair.

Edited by eyeK0n at 09:57 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #468 @ 13:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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fau - Reply to #454

I don't know how 102 was "learning to ctf" but last time I saw them play it was few weeks ago vs mixed pickup team. They were struggling :P Maybe they learned to TDM in CTF? We won't know until they release the demos

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daytripper - Reply to #454

4 EU teams in top 5.
Even Deliberate Murder & iGamerZ ahead of Rapha's team.
... Draw your own conclusions. ;)

<< Comment #464 @ 10:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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br1ck

Guess i secretly won in the end =) btw the Chilean team...all amazing players. Glad they made it to the tourney, i'm definitely a fan now.

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iavoal - Reply to #464

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Edited by iavoal at 10:46 CDT, 25 July 2015

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[eXodus] - Reply to #464

My niggah

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V1R7U4L

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPNymO24rPA

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<< Comment #470 @ 00:23 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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FlashSoul - Reply to #469

This is great. Thank you.

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Gladius - Reply to #469

great!
MIERDA!!!!!

<< Comment #471 @ 00:51 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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br1ck

Effortless won 10k again, i spent money to get him here. We agreed to split it. In the end so i REALLY DID WIN LMFAO EZ FINALS AGAIN EZZZZ

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<< Comment #475 @ 17:51 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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h8m3 - Reply to #471

Nice CTF performance m8 losing to 102

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br1ck - Reply to #475

Thanks, i came for the raffle. And we won it so GG

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Weird '

.... Just watched a few vods...
I don't really see teams playing CTF, they are more doing TDM with slight variations in moving around the map.

Really, I see basedefs getting their home PU, going on the offence entering enemy base with 150/100 and just lg'ing 3 freshly spawned people (=without real weapons) down, of which 2 then again respawn infront of him at which point he kill both of them... upping the tally to 5, and then eventually dieing to the last fresh spawn....
If there are 3 people there with MG.... Take the flag, move out of the room, possibly spam 1 rocket just to delay their movement as they try to follow you and make sure to not kill any of them until you are at mid (or passed it)... They can't mg you down fast enough.

The TDM games on the other hand were pretty high level. So they are fun to watch :p

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Dird - Reply to #474

You couldn't create an euro CTF dream team that could easily beat MD from active players so whether their strats are "pure" CTF or not doesn't matter, it's effective

I saw quite a few flag pickups (when team mates dropped), RJs out (some dodgy) etc

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Weird ' - Reply to #477

tbh I probably could...
But I'd need a long time to forge a team into a real team :p

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Dird - Reply to #479

nobody spends 3 years preparing for a cup. if MD did they'd be much better than your mix team

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Anonymous (84.209.75.61)

What bothers me about this whole drama is the sparks situation.
To me he seems like a nice enough guy. Polite, kind, open and friendly.

What I noticed about him after watching his stream over a couple of months is this:

He seems to have an issue with criticism. And making too many assumptions.
Take the episode with winz, where he was kicked from the server after he streamed some of MD's games.
He didn't know why, but almost immediately started asking questions like; Is winz a racist?
To me, and I'm sure a lot of people, it looked like he was kicked because he was streaming the games. And that's it.
It didn't have to be anything racist about it.

Another thing is his attitude towards certain players.
He seems agressive when someone confronts him about certain things.
An example here is when he was dueling against chance, and he asked him about the Quakecon donations now that he wasn't going.
sparks replied something like this: Why do you care? It's none of your concern! After that, when he was playing him, he was calling him a moron, idiot or what not on stream for several minutes. And I was thinking; Why would he say things like that? Has he got something to hide? I just lost all respect for him at that time.

Now that rapha, cl0ck and zero4 have had their say, it just makes sense to me.
He is to me too proud, I think, and have trouble being a team player.
It looked to me when he was playing with found-Em, that he was mainly doing what he tought might be best for the team, and not what he was told to do. Why this; 'well I don't think that is a good idea, I'll do this instead' kind of attitude? And they weren't winning games.

So in retrospect I can understand why they had to let him go.

whaz I think, went behind their backs deliberately. I don't think he ever meant to go to Quakecon.

Doesn't make me right, but that's what I can gather from all of this.