Serious note: Municipal Waste has the best pits. People usually go to the hospital after a show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx6Dx4EwN1I&t=3m05s
Trash can hit me in the head :o

The filthy humans are just like ants!

Municipal waste is probably the worst metal band at the moment. Shit pizza/zombie thrash with weak vocal and weak riff, dunno why ppl are listening to them instead of the like of Vektor

you're comparing crossover thrash with a specific, rather sophisticated brand of thrash.

Dunno, why do people prefer nu metal to classical metal lol

Crossover, prog or black thrash, it still is thrash and there is a shiton of band doing it better than Municipal waste

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkfKX8VnjKI

have you noticed that Nu Metal has some "rapping" style in the songs? that might be the answer to your question, i guess of course, i have thought about it too..

it was a rhetorical question :) Nu-metal is all youth culture, agressiveness and teenage-appealing kind of badassery in place of music. Very few songs in nu metal are quality art.

i have the same opinion, but many Nu Metal bands have influence in our tr00 heavy metal that we like so much. i just can't believe that somebody likes Slipknot.. :/

Is it a Coroner/Voivoid tribute band or what ? :D

Ye they share those dissonant/high pitch riff with Voivod (and the logo too)

Vektor is quite a bit different. They're taking Thrash in their own direction.

Well I guess metal got even more boring since I gave up on it because it doesn't sound anything particular to me.

What song did u listen ? They got some "classic" thrasher in their arsenal, as well as pure gems like these:

Tetrastructural minds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tAbcWrrIQU

Accelerating universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVFR7uKYA6A

About half of Black Future.

It's nothing particular. I can understand why in the realm of metal it may appear relatively fresh but that's because the genre is so focused on itself it has barely evolved in 20 years.

The 2nd half of Black Future is where the journey begins. Half of their catalog is stuff they wrote almost 10 years ago, their album coming out will be fresh material.

Metal is in a state of taking newer ideas and applying it to old sounds. There's roads left unfinished developmentally. Once this is done, worlds will really start to collide.

(Meshuggah isnt thrash but w/e)

Vektor are pushing boundaries of Thrash not metal as a whole i'll give you that, you need to be "deep" into this subgenre to appreciate and understand how fresh and uncommon their music is.

If you want to listen something really innovative try the band Melechesh, they're mixing black/thrash with Mesopotamian/Assyrian/Sandnigger drum pattern and melodies, and their Emissaries LP fuckin slay

Meshuggah used to be thrash. Contradictions Collapse, None, Destroy Erase Improve. Thrash doesn't necessarily imply strong hardcore influences.

I bought Sphynx in 03 or 04, the whole Mesopotamian thing got incredibly annoying after a while so I never cared for their next records. I get used to things and bored of them really fast.

tl;dr you're too deep and I'm too far away.

Old Meshuggah is definitely very thrashy.
If you're looking for someone to push the boundaries of Metal as a whole, we've got Amogh Symphony releasing an album pretty soon.

what about Nevermore?

I wasn't aware that they were pushing any boundaries. If you'd like to elaborate, I'm all ears.

Hey, ring me when yall people get around to how Maiden/Metallica/Priest changed the world or something, thanks.

More like Black Sabbath/Venom/Metallica

More like Yesterday's Children/Randy Holden/Stress.

You both mentioned Metallica. They definitely changed the world for Metal, alright. Black Album turned mainstream metal into bands like Five Finger Death Punch. Thanks, Metallica. We appreciate it.

faerie_, you're not a Lenny Troo Frasher, are you?

Listen to more, get the whole picture. Vektor's only problem so far is album flow.
I've never heard anyone call Vektor boring, coming from any perspective, even old man jazz enthusiasts.

It's not boring, it's just nothing new.

Stuff that still sounds fresh despite being 10-15 year old : Thorns s/t, Satyricon - Rebel Extravaganza ( which I don't actually like ), Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God, The Amenta - Occasus.
I think the most recent thrash record I heard that felt like it brought something different was the None ep by Meshuggah and it's 20 years old.

Vektor is a new look on what's old.

Do you play in Vektor or what ? :D

No, but I was a part of the scene they sprouted from. They're all insanely nice guys with massive potential.

They're very generic and I've only ever listened to an entire album once or twice... but Holy Hell do their live shows carry an energy like no other. I'll go see them live in a heartbeat.

[+] for Vektor. Been seeing those guys since they were playing in chicken coops!

There's a similar mosh pit for humans somewhere in Saudi Arabia. You can go to that one. ;)

Haha the filthy humans are just like ants!

hhahaha the famous walk to kaaba!

just sayin'
(starts 1:30, timecode doesnt work for some bizarre reason)

LoG know how to set it up <3

that they do. that dvd is killer btw. i also highly recommend this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ODNxy3YOPU