Why do you ask now, after you just bought it?

Buy both and make them 69.

Because I could always send it back before I open it :D , I would love to make everything a 69 :D

I'm waiting to see the prices and reviews on the g-sync version myself, the XL2420G

You want the Z iirc, but you want the version 2 firmware if the 11z has the same issue that he 20z had.: http://www.blurbusters.com/blur-busters-strob...uthorized/

I'm waiting to see the prices and reviews on the g-sync version myself, the XL2420G
Though I'm pissed off it doesn't have any other ports you can use :/

Most certainly the Z.

I have a XL2420Z, set at 144Hz with Blur Reduction, the difference coming from a 30" IPS panel (pro photography) 60Hz panel is astounding. Getting to T4 was far easier.

Yakumo (hello by the way, long time!) - Mark Rejhon mentioned on OC.net that GSYNC is more suited to games that fluctuate in FPS; between 60 and 100. Battlefield being a prime example for many. Anything above 100 and consistent, i.e. QL, blur reduction/Lightboost was favourable.

Yup, iirc the same was said on blurbusters :)

Nvidia are trying to fix the problem of input lag if you actually have the max fps apparently http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview2/

It would still be a better monitor for most games, just if they don't fix that issue I'd not enable Gsync for Quake :)


T4 - can't imagine you having any problem getting there :p

Thanks for the link, a good read.

Might return this Z and wait for the G. Hmmmmm :¬)

How to get to T4:
1. Open console
2. Type /map verticalvengeance
3. Hit enter
4. ??????
5. Profit

I'm hoping it's going to v2 , I have seen loads of websites say u need to upgrade to v2 and then a lot of sites say all XL2411z come with v2 already , that's why I was asking If I did the right thing :D, but let's hope I dnt feel like I should of stuck with my 19 inch CRT heheh

Yeah, edited slightly above too as I got 11 / 20 mixed up.

I'm sure I read somewhere something thought the 11z had slightly better response time than the 20z too, which annoyed me because I wanted the quick control module the 20z comes with.

Either way though, they're my choice of monitor for gaming, I want to upgrade my XL2410T to one of them, and check out the blurbusters util for them. I love widescreen but still miss the quality of my old crt.

So for gaming the pic is better on CRT than the benqs??

CRT is better than LCD is near every way except power consumption, and lack of modern screen sizes/resolutions, and the brightness of the light shining into your eyes.

we were supposed to have SED (Surface-conduction Electron-emitter Display) screens by now (hell 5+ years ago tbh) that had all of the advantages of both CRT and LCD but some **** godamn IP troll sued when cannon tried to team up with toshiba to actually speed up development and get them to market tying them up in legal battles until everyone dropped them entirely :(
FED and CNT were killed off fairly similarly, probably just because LCD was cheaper and 'good enough' for the majority of consumer demand.
This has left medical facilities with problems as LCD displays do NOT have good enough colour for medical diagnostics.

The only real hope now I've heard of for a new screen technology with CRT like colour reproduction, refresh, response, blur-free, no 'native' resolution, true black and LCD like width, cheap cost (eventually), low power use and low light emission is NED displays. "nano-emissive display" under development by motorolla ... but sadly that being the company involved doesn't fill me with confidence currently.

What about OLED? Didn't they say it's possible to get both CRT and LCD pros but the problem is the price, and also the only OLED screens I've seen in stores etc only come "curved"?

I was also waiting for this years ago reading about new techs for monitors.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/ole...gy/#!NvNSS

Basically OLED >> LCD for almost everything.

They're comparible to CRT in many ways, and better in others (contrast, true black) but still have some colour issues (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_CR...,_and_OLED though maybe slightly out of date)

but oled still has a native resolution like LCD.

They're still likely to be hugely expensive too :-/

If I could afford it I'd probably buy a 24inch or better OLED in a heartbeat over any other LCD, but a NED should still be better.

Yeah I saw in store they are still 1080p maximum for now, I was with my father looking at some 4K screens for him, and he actually didn't mind that the OLED was curved, but it's wayyyyyyy too expensive dear lord...

http://www.whathifi.com/review/samsung-ke55s9c

omg wtf were they thinking with this frame??? ugggh.

http://www.whathifi.com/review/55ea980w isn't bad though, and looking one google shopping their price has near halved from the cost listed in this review.

So maybe it won't be TOOOooooo long before we can see some monitors instead of TVs, and not insane pricing

For: that curve
Against: that curve

Lol! After reading these reviews I checked the wiki again, I'm not sure if they need to be updated or not, when you look at the disadvantages, but anyway I can't wait to see the first monitors "an OLED theoretically can have a response time less than 0.01 ms, enabling a refresh rate up to 100,000 Hz ." FAP.

i just found this thread after upgrading from a benq 2411t to a 2411z... so i'm late, but anyway my experience with this: image quality is better on the Z because this one allows changes to colors and brightness, which were locked during lightboost on the T model. strobe length and thus brightness and clarity can be customized on the Z using the blur busters tool. image quality is of course still typical for tn monitors, but there is an improvement over the T due to no lock. so it's a moderate upgrade overall. at least i sold my T well and got the Z off ebay so it was cheap. now this benq Z will have to last until a swift or similar is available and doesn't rip a hole in my wallet.

actually, i was looking for opinions on the eizo fg2421, but its reportedly palpable input lag and fixed strobe rate put me off. i'm just very sensitive to anything being not smooth and immediately responsive. although i would have liked it's deep blacks and better than tn colors. so i came across this post and articles on SED displays, and it's a shame that such wonderful technology lost against lcd tech which is worse in pretty much every aspect. i mean, imagine 0.2 ms response time and 100,000:1 contrast ratio as canon had stated for their consumer displays. and no input lag, as it worked like a crt. the best lcd screens we got are pathetic in comparison. and all because of that damn patent troll that slowed down development until lcd took over the market, see what could have been and what we got.

Not having a lot of luck finding recent news on it.
No sign of anything on the Motorolla NED display since 2005 :/

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/Sony-Aband...evelopment was very very sad news in 2009

However,
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2...ology.html from 2013 is relatively hopeful, if they actually do anything with it, we might see it eventually move out of the mobile market and onto the desktop one day, maybe...

man u really know ur shit im so out of date with all this hehe
but from what u have said makes me think i should keep my crt which im thinking is not going to be a good thing eheh

If you're not doing art, or playing v low rez old games, then really LCD is best these days.

I was just about happy with my XL2410T, but the almost CRT like blur-free reported on the 144hz models like you just bought is definitely something I'm after.

They may have been technically better, but I also don't miss the eye strain from CRT brightness. I was just really, really hoping my next screen would be some real new technology and we'd finally have best of both.

I'm sorry, but how can you get eye strain from "CRT brightness"?

I remember eye strain from less than 100 Hz CRT blinking but that was in the 80s / early 90s before I got my first 100 Hz.

I always ran my CRT at either 100 or 120hz.

End of the day the light emission from them was stronger, I always found LCDs far far kinder on my eyes.

It's entirely subjective, but I found my eyes less dry, and less tired all round using LCD.

Still, a typical CRT has a brightness setting which you can crank down and it actually makes it emit less photons, unlike CFL LCDs.

I worked on so many LCDs and most cause some eye strain, unlike my last 3 CRTs...

EDIT: the only actual way I know of to make eyes dry is to put the display (never mind the tech) too high on the desk. Just saying!

it was a big step for me to go and buy the xl2411z , i love my crt ive had the same one for almost 10 years
now bought when i moved to uk :D i also hope that moving to widescreen and to 24 wont take me to long
to get used to it :D

i only play qlive on the crt and use a lg w2234s as second monitor

I went from a 19inch iiyama i'd had for maybe 10 years to the benq.

I was playing 1024x768 @120 before, now 1920x1080 @ 120.

you'll probably find it feels rather odd without lowering your FOV a little with all the extra info at the sides.

I think i went from fov 120 in Q3 to 113 in QL - smaller hitbox scaled models in QL made 120 too much, 113 gave same feel.

Then down to 110 after the monitor change to get the same feel again.


Hope it goes well for you, and that I can catch up to 144hz soon ;o)

i play at 800x600 @ 103 fov
just seems like im going to have to play around with shit :D

and i miggt change my mouse also at the same time from kana v1 to v2 which i have already just wating for new feet as the feet on the mouse are scraping the pad :( but i might hold of on the mouse till i get used to the screen :)

Did you get your monitor with v2 firmware? I plan to buy the same monitor, could you give a quick review?

i wish i did mmaluco but its v1 :( i read on a few websites that all xl2411z came with v2 installed but thats a lie , as for a review :D its takes some getting used to but im not sure if thats because i moved from 19inch crt to this , the colours suck u have to play around with them and how this monitor compares with others of its kind i would not have a clue as like i said ive always used crt monitors :D but i would guess that with v2 firmware its a whole different beast :D so ive got to think now do i sent the monitor back to benq for update or just buy the tool to update it myself

Would you say that the monitor is still good with v1? As far as i know, problems only concur with the MBR feature enabled, did you reproduce the problem everyone is complaining about and did it affect your gameplay with QL?

Sending it to benq is actually a good idea, i heard its only about 10€ shipping costs, they send it free to you back.

its a good monitor i would say and most people i talk to that have the xl2411t are happy with it and they are more or less the same just with the z version having a couple more options . and yup ql live a lot different which im still trying to get used to , and by mbr do u mean blur reduction ?

Yes MBR is motion blur reduction, i think it can be enabled and disabled. The bug should only appear with it enabled.i wonder if it could affect the ql experience.

What bug do you refer to?

'The described issue (strong double image effect in bottom half of scren) isn't affecting anything when Motion Blur Reduction (MBR) is turned off. The issue is only visible when MBR is turned on.'

quoted from: http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f...;start=280

there is software method to upgrade firmware to v2 (without buying tool)
http://www.blurbusters.com/upgrade-benq-z-ser...mstar-isp/

That's good news but it only works in Linux which dnt help us windows users so will have to wait until I can do it with windows , I have gone back to my CRT for the mean time as I feel the xl2411z is the biggest pile of crap I have ever bought which is rather said as it's £260 down the drain :(

Install a linux distro to a USB drive

haha, yeah, that was my first thought, and 2nd poster in that thread says that's exactly how he successfully did it too, just follow the thread =)

here's an easy distro -
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create...on-windows

"most people i talk to that have the xl2411t are happy with it and and they are more or less the same just with the z version having a couple more options" may be something wrong with ur setup?
give it a second try with native resolution (1920x1080) in quake, 144hz, com_maxfps 250, benq blur reduction off, instant mode on.
this v2 firmware affects only on benq blur reduction afaik.

I also have the Kana v2, but my 144hz monitor isn't the same hehe. Which pad are you using btw, on cloth pad I feel like I never need to change the feet.

im using the qck heavy i think , the kana v1 is going the strong nothing wrong with the feet but when i bought the kana v2 feels like something is scraping on the feet :( i orderd new feet last week tuesday and still wating for them and a lil pissed off tbh i was charged £8 for delivery on a £5 item so in total £13 and still no feet!!!!! thanks amazon !!!

Maybe the kana v2 you got in the box was a bit messed up, the feet on mine I don't know when I'll change them because they still look like new (qck heavy too here ^^). I want to order a new mouse but you can't find it in europe new anymore, I'm sure I'll have the same shipping problems as you, shipping costs more than the mouse itself hehe, I hope not, I will see...

Son, you fucked up big time. Your monitor is absolutely trash. Through it out of the window and get XL2411T.

we will see once i update it :D if its still shit i will sell it

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Wow, now everyone knows you're almost 30.

If i understand correctly the only difference between the Z and T models is that the Z has motion blur reduction right?

buying a benq myself but dont want to spend the extra money for the 20Z if its only other feature is blur reduction which might be bugged anyway

I also wanna buy a benq.. is the z really better then the t? I only play quake and sometimes cs :)

there are way better 120hz monitors available than those benq, which have poor colors :o

yeah, but we're looking at 144hz monitors here with near zero input lag, not 120hz

fair enough, didnt actually checked how much hz it got :>

Care to name one which is in the same price category? (~300€)
I only know the Asus VG248QE which should not have significant better colors than the benq (as far as i know).

Iiyama ProLite GB2488HSU-B1, it's a 144hz monitor. It used to be 279€ or 269€ but it's now 299€ many people start buying this instead of the > 300€ Asus and Benq.

On a forum I'm a member, there are at least 3 people who purchased it I know and said it's a very good balance between fast response monitor for gaming AND colours for people who need to work with it.

NVC purchased one and he did his little test for gaming, you can ask him again for that part, about the colour, I could ask one of the people I know what they really think after calibrating how it is working on it.

edit: found it on Amazon for 273€ hehe.
edit 2: if you find cheap Benq monitors it's normal it's because of that firmware bug they want to sell all the v1 first before they can sell all of v2 (no bug).
edit 3: if you understand French or can translate a little I can give you few links, some people say even if the iiyama doesn't have the motion blur reduction it's still superior overall due to colour quality + reactivity in Direct drive mode, also two tech websites in France gave it 5 stars (!!! maximal 5/5), many people also got it due to Benq services not answering/helping with the firmware bugs, so the choice was easy for them to make. The only reason I didn't get it personally is because of Gsync (my monitor can have it).
edit 4 (haha): but if you really want to go with the upgrade hassle, check this http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=471

Oh, I forgot about this monitor. I saw someone using it on a ql stream and researched it but i was scared away because i thought it was a 'noname' brand.
But now im sold, i think i will get this monitor. I have no desire for this v2 firmware flash crap with the Benq. Also the Iiyama has much more ports (only vga port is missing) than the benq 2411z and is almost cheaper.
Thank you for your detailed post, you helped me a lot!

/e: I found the monitor online for about 270€, pretty good price imho. A direct competitor would be the competitor would be the AOC g2460Pqu, which is in the same price range.

No problem ;)

If you are still hesitating I suggest that you ask NVC:

http://www.esreality.com/?a=users&user_id=35726
http://www.twitch.tv/dignitasnvc/profile

He has 3 of them :D haha I didn't know

Monitor 1: Iiyama GB2488HSU, 1920x1080 @144Hz
Monitor 2: Iiyama GB2488HSU, 1920x1080 @144Hz
Monitor 3: Iiyama GB2773HS, 1920x1080 @144Hz

Iiyama always made the best CRT's.
Till now for games I hadn't heard they'd made any LCD's worth looking at.

samsung S23A and S27A series (discontinued, hard to find now). there are very few reviews on this one as for some odd reason samsung doesnt advertise some of their products. you might look for "S27A750D" tho, which was the only 120hz monitor in 2012 that sported a 100% color range (something the benq xl2410 of that time were horrible at). as a downside the samsung was a bit glossy tho, even tho it was said to have an anti glare finish (and expansive when it was released, 500€ but dropped fast).

most 120/144hz just aint advertised but more than on par with the BenQ. but what can you do when a company jumps on the RaZer bandwagon and screams "gaming hardware!" everywhere to sell okayish to decent hardware as if it was pure gold =)

"most 120/144hz just aint advertised but more than on par with the BenQ."

What happens is they tend to get a review somewhere, and then no-one remotely serious about fast paced gaming like Quake discusses them any more because either their response, or their input lag, or both SUCKS.

you are correct about the asus vg248. got one the other day as a new main monitor after using a vg236 for ages. 248 has really odd colors though, like the bright colors are very neon kinda bright, the reds have a pink hue to them. sort of washed out and no idea how to fix it. i mean it doesnt bother me a whole lot since its a pretty damn fast panel... still have my 236 which is a tiny bit slower but is known for having pretty good color balance if i do wanna watch shit :P

I told you to get colour profiles!

I have an IPS panel next to my VQ248QE and the colours are like...... "why is it SO DIFFERENT IT'S UNREAL" :D no words can describe.

I bought the Iiyama GB2488HSU from here: http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?prodID=B1802090 it was 199eur incl. tax

Wow, that is quite amazing, unfortunately now its 226.97 gbp incl tax (= 278.58 EURO)

:'-(

If you open them up, both BENQ and ASUS share the same panel, M240HW01 V8

http://dspelec.en.alibaba.com/product/9720069...01_V8.html

Does Motion Blur Reduction function by Benq adds extra inputlag?

yes but it's tiny ~3ms at 144hz.
if i understood correct http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=835

Even with v.2 firrmware still input lag??

with any strobing tech like nvidia LightBoost, BenQ Blur Reduction, ULMB there will be a tiny extra input lag.
it will be less in the future.

im trying to figure that one out !! everytime i load ql and load my cfg it feels so different everytime dnt no if its just me or what and if ur thinking of getting a xl2411z i would make 100% sure it comes with v2 firmware

What do you mean exactly with it feels so different everytime?
I think i will go with the Iiyama ProLite GB2488HSU like #43 mentionted before. More bang for the buck.

waiting for gsync here.

wondering if the delay is because nvidia are working to fix the input lag blur busters suspect is occurring from polling when at 143 fps. ( http://www.blurbusters.com/gsync/preview2/ )

I certainly hope so, and that they fix it!

I thought we could still get our hands on the upgrade kits? :)

I talked to people online they told me they got it like less than 3 months ago, I'm not sure how they did.

The only place I could get it was Amazon for a while, but I didn't have the money, if around July and August there is a new stock I'll definitely get it.

I think so, but all other gsync monitors have officially been listed as delayed.

Sure don't envy you the job of DIY still, it's hardly a plug in module. Best of luck.

I won't do it myself I'm too scared, I've watched the installation video when they released it, bunch of people I know freaked out like me, the thing is it does not look that complicated if you are careful, but anyway it's better for me instead of selling it/buying another monitor, because I had a deal when purchased mine, I'm not rich so the kit is a better choice for me.

I used to repair laptops, and for what they sell as a user installable upgrade module, I was pissed off.
Not what you want to be doing to something like that while it should have still been under warranty :-/

Yeah not sure what went through their head about the warranty... :(

Is Motion Blur Reduction the only difference between xl2411 and xl2411z models?

MBR is the big difference. Z series also has PWM-free backlight dimming (as does the late revision T series) and some 'low blue light' option.

the cases are different smaller bezel on one, and z comes with a control module too.

ed: mixed up..

case is same for xl2411t and xl2411z.
only xl2420z and xl2420t comes with a control module.

pecka's right, I keep thinking the 11/20 differences are t/z differences, sorry.

right its update time on the xl2411z , at first i was far from happy with it ( wished i had never spent the money ) but since looking at it for 4 days just sitting there i thought let me try and get it working to my needs and after a fresh install of windows and a fresh download of qlive and a new cfg it seems to have fixed the issues i was having :D:D:D but thats with blur reduction OFF . so infact its a really good monitor :D

dont get sad now, but its very likely that its still shitty but after 4 days you got used to it. its like when people buy new speakers and think they dont sound good but after some playtime they get "attuned" and their quality increases while infact nothing changed but the guy infront of the hardware did.

but hey, cant deny the positive effects of placebo =)

It depends honestly, if we take the example of colours, after calibration specially if you own a colorimeter you might change your mind from "F*** I hate this monitor" to "Well it's actually okish now :D". About response time and blur now it gets tricky, it can be placebo in so many cases, but in some others not, but OP's case I would say even if he had a CRT previously maybe he just doesn't think it's so bad after all :D.

And about speakers I agree, BUT don't forget that it can not be always placebo specially when you have some headphones let's say that need to get burnt in ;)

if you look that "need to get burnt in" stuff up you will see that its actually exactly the placebo, as the hardware doesnt change at all. headphones dont burn in within the first couple of days of usage - your head adaptes to the new impressions.

i agree about the color calibration. but dopey didnt do that, he reinstalled the os/ql/config which do zero to his monitor :> so unless he had some wierd softwareside color settings before (which then again should have already affect the old monitor) nothing has actually changed ^^

Yes you are right about the burn-in/break-in effects, the thing is as you said it yourself ears adjust perfectly to the new sound after a while, so wouldn't it be the same in his case? I have a hard time actually with the fact you get used to the hardware after a while and the placebo effects! I get that nothing changed and science proves it perfectly, this is not the problem, the problem is if it's actually really bad when you first try the headphones for instance, do you see what I mean? Anyway it's probably some settings that messed up his first impressions then

well when you try new headphones 3 things determine wether you are pleased with them or not.
a) their quality. you cannot obviously be tricked to a point where you are unable to distinguish between crap and gold.
b) your former equipment. if the new stuff reproduces the taste that you developed then they will sound good.
c) the brand and fame. if you read up on a product and get to the conclusion that it must be good, then it will be better in your imagination.

off these 3, a) is objective, b) is subjective and c) is totally placebo. none of these are "wrong" and all of them improve your experience with the product, but only a) in a steady way. b) will change no matter what you do because its subconscious and c) may change too, but is influenced by your own will in a passive relation.
so if headphones you put on sound bad then they MAY be bad (a) or they may sound different than what you expected and thus wrong (b) or you expected them to be bad because of look/brand or because you just bought new ones and want all others to sound bad (c).

as for me i just try to accept the impact of placebo and adaption to be honest. before i buy a product i read up A TON of reviews until i happily buy it. that way i make sure a) and c) are ok (if all like it quality must be good and i get the placebo it must be good) and when i get my hands on it im not judging the product until some weeks of usage .. b).

in the end its not about having the "best" that has been ever constructed. its about beeing satisfied and in good mood about your purchase :P

Dear god I thought you were not gonna understand me :D well I thought about it too that's actually my "conclusion" too!

You came from an LCD that just had better colour before right? not a CRT ?

He said he had a CRT before, but I don't know if he switched directly from CRT to this BenQ :D

edit: apparently yes he did

You just got used to playing with an LCD, and it's not that easy after years of playing on a CRT monitor, no matter the refresh rate

So basicly you dont use the bug inducing feature MBR? (motion blure reduction) and it is still a good monitor?
So I could by the T model, which is the same as the Z model, only without MBR and some weird blue color eyecandy shit, right?

So basicly, Z without MBR = T model?

So many question, i think i just buy a iiyama :D

Lave , I'm not stupid :) I was not using the benq for a few days because I would of broken something :) so what ur saying about me getting used to it is not true because I could see and feel the difference strait away , and yes I did a fresh install of everything and calibrated the everything and it's does not feel like I'm playing with 60hz and 80 ping

Did you test it with Quake Live?

Because I know the game sometimes resets your refresh rate and you think you are using 144hz for instance, but then you notice it's not smooth then when you check it's 60hz on the OSD, so MAYBE this happened!

Quake Live also has a bug like when you use PC number 1 for a while, then install on PC number 2 later, then it will mix the default settings of PC number 2 with PC number 1, I swear it happened to me, I wanted to ask SyncError etc if I'm crazy or not, but I did the test again between 2 different PC and it happened again, also when you go back to PC 1 the settings are so messed up, wrong refresh rate, wrong resolution wrong graphics (can someone else confirm?)

i noticed once that my refresh in windows had changed to 60 hz and not 120 or 144 and yup i have tested it with ql and it fine , and about the settings thing ur on about with ql ive also noticed something like that which i found very very strange

repconfig.cfg is supposed to store everything that is going to be unique to your control, and the contents of that gets replicated to the QL servers, and then back to any new machine that you log into.

qzconfig.cfg is meant to store everything that is unique to the PC that you're on.

for some reason aliases don't get replicated, so if you're advanced enough to be using aliases, you really should be putting all of the settings that you like to have into an autoexec.cfg (or a file that autoexec calls so you can give your file a more unique name)

Ordered xl2411z. Ofcourse it's gonna be v1.
1. I have just VGA/HDMI ports. I will try to run it 120 hz @ VGA @ 640x480 , 800x600, 1024x768.
2. Will try to update to V2 with linux stuff (with 2 friends help, becouse never used linux...).

stop play at notebook

i will buy new notebook soon, this one is already 3yo :)

did it work?

yeah, 120hz @ low resolutions, plug and play.
still didnt updated v2, but im not using blur reduction, its fucksup a colors...

are you using HDMI? its running a laptop?

kind of surprised it worked. whats the gpu?

VGA cable. I guess it should work on HDMI too, but just same on low res. Yeah acer notebook ~4yo. It have gt540m geforce. and it have IntelHD integrated card, it works on it too.
In browesing windows I use 60hz, becouse of high res.

damn, do i really need to read all that? all i want is a good monitor for all games, (ql, q3, bf4, fc4, ...doom..)

if i understand what i read so far, then its not a good time to buy monitors?

Any 144HZ Monitor from Benq, Asus or Iiyama will do it...

Just bought a ASUS VG248QE did I make a mistake ???

no ...

not exactly, it's a good monitor, just the benq's are a bit better

http://www.blurbusters.com/benq-xl2420te-best-120hz-monitor/

Colour setup for these, having just got one in the amazon sale :)

In the monitor's OSD go to picture mode and select STANDARD.

FPS mode is the default and it completely messes up the colours, especially making yellows completely light cream, almost white, most noticeable in QL chat text, it's awful.

Leaving FPS mode doesn't alter your input lag or anything, it's just a colour preset.

Digitalversus covered calibration for the screen and put up their xl2411z icm profile

Go to 'Colour management' in windows control panel,
All profiles tab
click add
find the .icm from the zip file you downloaded and select that.

Go back to the 'devices' tab, hit remove on any profiles from previous monitors then hit 'Add...' then select the BenQ XL2411z.icm you just installed.


Then the rest of their instructions were -

In the OSD picture controls :
Brightness: 40
Gamma > "Gamma 4".

Colour temperature to "User" mode with:
red at 100
green at 95
blue at 90

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This setup might not be quite right for you yourself, but it's a much better place to start, and at least yellow is now YELLOW.

Green keels on 0x00ff00ff are a proper green now too, instead of

Edit: I forgot when I wrote this I didn't mention anything other than colour, and I keep directing people here so - If you are looking to avoid ghosting then don't forget to turn on Instant Mode, and I prefer AMA set to high myself and here's why. They're options on the Picture menu, one screen of options down.

Just tried those color settings out and it makes the colors a bit yellow.

I use this:
https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-xl2420z/

Its a different monitor model but its the same panel. I use the TS1 settings
red 96
green 96
blue 100
gamma 5

Theres an icm profile in that too but I don't notice any difference applying it now. Maybe I need a restart. It's possible there's a bit of variance between these panels and it needs to just be user preference. I'm using a much lower brightness too. I don't have a calibrator, but I've been using a calibrated crt for years and these settings look closer to that. I don't have them side by side to check though.

Cheers, more options are good! Everyone will have their own likes/needs that may not agree with a calibrator if they're not trying to do print artwork anyway.

All I mostly cared was people shouldn't be thinking that the screen they bought can't actually do yellow at all!

This is hugely old news, but I still refer people back to this post of mine so adding this :

Blur Busters have a utility that lets you configure the strobe for the Blur Reduction mode here : https://www.blurbusters.com/benq/strobe-utility/

If you happen to get a version 1 monitor which that will not work with, there's a firmware update you can do yourself if you're adventurous https://www.blurbusters.com/benq/diy-firmware...-z-series/ but you would need to buy or build an MSTAR ISP upgrader.

I really enjoy the article post. Cool. cecafdfcdbec