the only solution is more subs so they can get better servers

"Better" servers wouldn't change anything to the problem. More servers with different providers could improve the probability that a given user finds a server with a reasonable ping/routing. That's all.

dude, srsly?

Yes. If you disagree, feel free to develop your idea further.

<instert facepalm pic here>

Very convincing.

god ur dense

That's funny.

not rly

yet another example of you not backing your post up just being shitsu

UMAD BRO?

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

you see, thats your problem (and not only yours, so take it easy)

you guys actually take seriously my posts. im not. im trolling and joking and having fun.

Basically...

HAHAHA. :D Pretty much what happens here.

HAHAHA. :D

pretty much its haters anwsering to me, not me poking you with le trollz.


but apparently i have to treat my haters like dogs. keep it simple, otherwise you guys have no idea whats going on

Fun fact: Flash is the 4th person to link this image to hitsu

and so far noone used it acording to reality

I love it, fits. :)

funneh, im quite sure it was you who replied to me.

just because you have no sense of humour, and take esr as important part of your boring life, doesnt mean anyone who doesnt share your attitude is retarded.

I don't think you're doing it right if you have to point it out after the fact.

not really my fault low iq guys take the bait and dont even notice it

I suppose it's their fault for taking you even remotely seriously.

Hope that never happens again.

Whipas lmao

what? :D

Just nice, solid, funny comment :d

Let me guess, BT Infinity? :)

Instant solution is to change ISP, otherwise try contacting i3d, otherwise wait.

i have this the other way around. all servers are fine for me, with the exception of Maidenhead UK. 110-120 ping sometimes, and other times 20ms. It can change on the fly.

Tracert showed me level3 isnt working properly. Not sure what I can do about it other than wait it out :p

http://pastebin.com/qU3tEsmd

Yepp, I have the exact same problem. Do you use Ziggo too? It is so annoying sometimes.

Yep, Ziggo ^^

It used to be alright when it was Multikabel, a smaller company. Now its just Ziggo Ziggo'ing it up, a company way too big to care about their customers half the time :>

my pings vice versa improved

Thanks all.

Seeing as I don't control the isp and I'm a poor student right now, no choice but to wait it out.

It is BT. From a recording studio that are kind enough to let my art studios use. hehe.

Same thing here with orange in France, DE & NL are fucked up

15 to UK
70-80 fluctuating in DE / NL

it's routing related

Ye Orange is fucked up these days. I get a better ping on many DE/NL and US servers with a Bouygues ADSL connection (with 30ms in the country vs 8ms with fiber) than with an Orange fiber connection.
Using a VPN also fixes the issues entirely (such as FrozenWay) and gives me back my normal expected ping.

Free has its share of issues as well, it's just routing/peering conflicts (more often that not it's not because of broken cables but rather because some operator doesn't want to pay/doesn't pay on time/refuses to pay the requested amount etc). Just secret business bullshit, very hard to find reliable information on that.

I've been looking into getting a VPN, could you recommend one ? Frozenway ?

I use FrozenWay yea.

VPN4gamers is great as well (it only reroutes game traffic and is free without limitations) but it's not supported for all games (with default settings at least) and mostly useful with MMOs (or other games where you always connect to the same ips).

As always, http://incloak.com/ has 24hr trial and is the cheapest overall.

DE and NL are unplayable for me, always 120-160 there :( But around midnight, everything goes back to normal.

same here, de and nl unplayable with >100 ms

I'm on swisscom vdsl (which sucks for ping) but the problem is here
20ge.de-cix.inxn-1.i3d.net [80.81.194.107]

I contacted i3d support and they replied very quickly, let's hope for the best.

can you please share as soon as something happens. and what did they reply?

i seem to be having similar problems.

http://www.esreality.com/post/2548562/n-a/#pid2548562

They asked for a trace and kind of fixed the problem. They basically changed the route from:

Frankfurt - Rotterdam - Amsterdam - Frankfurt - Munich - Vienna - Switzerland -> 100ms

to

Frankfurt - London - ? - Switzerland -> 41ms

not optimal but I can finally play again (just lost 100 elo since I got the servers back)

Ah, so Europe now has the same routing issues that North America has had for years. Darn.

That's how the internet works, it doesn't matter where.

i got ping 20 on one half of the german servers and ping 130 on the other half...

constant 120 to AMS and Ger. gimme fucking milan back.

I used to ping 65 to .de. Now I ping 120-150 in every other servers but the uk ones.

Same situation for half of the players in Italy. It started happening 2/3 weeks ago. Very high ping to DE/NL server during all the evening, totally unplayable.
Using tracert there is a Node that gives some problem, probably can't manage high traffic in the evening.

Hope to see this resolved as the Nation Cup is going to start in few days.

I have same problem, 70/100 in de/nl.... 50 only in SPAIN

Sometimes I can't tell if Quake Live servers are worse of Tribes Ascend's.
I actually think Quake servers are far worse.
How do I get 70 ping to Dallax and Chicago when Chicago is way farther than California?
I also get 30 to California and I'm in California. 100+ for anything far east...
pingskill
ID should should get their shit together with the servers.

did you run trace to the servers? my provider since last year kindly adds me 20ms in the second hop. Maybe in your case some node in the route is fucking things up, not necessarily ID fault.

it's id's fault.

On DSL I get 12 ping to tribes ascend's west coast server.
On Cable I get about 16 to west coast on tribes.

For DSL to chicago in Tribes I get about 60, cable about 65

For DSL to chicago QL I get 95, 100 to texas
Cable it's 70 for both of them.

I have run tracerts before and made a thread, and sent email to everyone(including the routing people and att, and id, and their server hosts) and nothing happened.

Are you saying the big increase in latency comes from the last hop(s), those QL's server providers are responsible for?

it's their fault for picking the cheapest peering options

root@OpenWrt:~# traceroute -i eth0.4 199.21.113.50
traceroute to 199.21.113.50 (199.21.113.50), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254)  1.020 ms  0.712 ms  1.109 ms
 2  bras2-l0.skt2ca.sbcglobal.net (151.164.187.3)  12.395 ms  13.763 ms  12.100 ms
 3  dist1-vlan60.skt2ca.sbcglobal.net (68.120.211.130)  10.328 ms  10.059 ms  *
 4  ppp-151-164-39-77.rcsntx.swbell.net (151.164.39.77)  12.223 ms  10.569 ms  10.109 ms
 5  12.122.200.9 (12.122.200.9)  13.652 ms  14.005 ms  *
 6  dcr2-so-3-0-0.washington.savvis.net (192.205.32.46)  16.608 ms  15.916 ms  16.338 ms
 7  xe-0-1-1.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net (204.93.144.25)  92.693 ms  91.543 ms  *
 8  71.ae1.ar2.ord6.us.scnet.net (204.93.204.157)  87.957 ms  71.ae1.ar1.ord6.us.scnet.net (204.93.204.153)  89.074 ms  87.460 ms
 9  as36352.xe-2-1-3.ar1.ord6.us.scnet.net (50.31.151.170)  74.094 ms  as36352.xe-2-1-3.ar2.ord6.us.scnet.net (50.31.154.182)  91.269 ms  *
10  10ge-1-3-2.gf146.cr2.chi.colocrossing.com (108.174.54.222)  90.801 ms  10ge-1-3-1.gf146.cr1.chi.colocrossing.com (206.217.137.250)  77.613 ms  10ge-1-3-2.gf146.cr2.chi.colocrossing.com (108.174.54.222)  85.573 ms



http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php...in-Chicago

same issue reported here

it's their fault for picking the cheapest peering options

How can you pick the cheapest when you can't pick at all?

The serverhosts can

Even hakujn made a thread about what they did to the Texas server.

http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php...to-Dallas!

Anyone can choose who they rent servers from but I don't think the ISP behind them (if the server provider isn't already one or a backbone) is ever part of the contract. All one can do is rent many servers from many different providers which hopefully will have different internet providers. The diversity will improve the probability that one of them has good peering agreements with your ISP (or whichever backbone it's dealing with). I don't think you'll ever find a single provider which works well for everyone all the time. Change providers and you're just gonna change the set of players without a fucked up routing.

Not really, BF3's servers are superb.

I get 15ping on DSL, cable, whatever. My friends on verizon, at&t, comcast all have great ping.

BF3 servers are top quality.

not really ql related, but since 3 or 4 weeks,m ive been having similar issues with some cpm server(namely the okidoki one in .nl)

when comparing tracert results for okidoki and one of the other lobster server, i get the following results
lazery :)
okidoki :(

but seriously, what has changed in the last few weeks?

12 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms ae-116-3502.edge5.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.162.134]
13 76 ms 75 ms 74 ms INTERACTIVE.edge5.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [212.72.41.70]

Looks like Level3 is doing funky stuff in Amsterdam. You might want to report it to them.

Same here, terribad ping to UK using OVH Telecom for several months.

I live in germany with 6mbit up and 2mbit down dsl line..
Ping should be around 20-30ms

I got 45-50ms nice nice.

@Noosh: we peer with OVH and as a result the Quake Live servers in Rotterdam/Frankfurt should perform a lot better than UK for you.

@rest, please feel free to e-mail [email protected] with WinMTR results + your public IP address. I can't promise that I'll be able to lower latency every time since some ISP really do their utmost best to keep their network congested, but we can always try.

Best regards,

Martijn Schmidt
i3D.net NOC

thanks again for your support!