http://www.2shared.com/file/W2TH3oTT/demos.html

wow this is pathetic, wtf strenx? no wonder ppl think i cheat, i play way better than strenx, if ppl judge me after looking at this idiot play ca then they'll def think something is fucked

k1llsen/stermy play ca like its supposed to be played, this french fuck needs some tips.

No, what is pathetic is that you think you need to show ppl why u do not cheat.

Aka you do

even with your cheats, strenx would take a big steamy shit on you.

thx, but unfortunately these are not the best demos i've ever seen. in fact i was lookin' for some 1v1 ca battles (thunderstuck, hellsgate, etc)

i think i have some of him playing thunderstruck but they are boring as fuck, you wouldnt like them. he's just sitting in tunnel 24/7

Whatch k1llsen, he's way better :P

Do you know where we can get some k1llsen CA demos?

I'll ask him the next time I see him on pub.

K1llsen doesn't have the time to go to pubs. Online Her0 for life.

somebody posted this a few weeks ago:

Cool, thanks. :)

shit he is really good :D

the only ca demos i'd willingly watch would be fox's pov.

Ask and ye shall receive

http://www.mediafire.com/?077c07ue1a7mj89

lololol :D

more? ;D

He is fucking horrible. His sense for positioning is just as bad as the common newbie that makes you rage round after round in public CA.

He probably just plays it for fun (and maybe 'aim practice')
CA can be pretty fucking boring when it's taken too seriously -- it's broken as a competitive gametype

What a a retarded comment, sorry. He plays with a team (volt*) in a official match, and just because you find CA boring doesn't mean that everybody else do the same. I for an instance find casual CA quite boring compared to competitively CA.

competetive ca :DDD

Why is that funny?

its an oxymoron, emphasis on the moron part

It is not.

STFU niggerfaggot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOKh4_ngSCM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOKh4_ngSCM

People who talk shit about CA...and are jealous tdm and ctf are dead game modes......and probably cheat.

they are probably banned alts who like to stack teams. I mean its fucking obvious. bitter mad fake nerds.

CA is the most popular game mode because its the most fair and sportlike.

who guys like to go around grabbing powerups for advantages, like a common video game, are not sportlike...sorry.

unfortunately thats the majority of this community...and why this game is dead. Lets face it most of society has no respect for you guys...and for good reason.

well for me ctf is the best team mode but i can have an opinion right?
i think this community is shit as well. so we have the same opinion. and yea..probably lots here are just frustrated about this hard to master game and give other pl shit. still i donīt like CA. even counterstrike harder than CA

He have good sence of homour, don't you think so. :D

CA can be as competitive as duel, u dumbass. Positioning, team play, choosing battles/weapons, different implying different strats vs different people (depending on their strengths/weaknesses) - all these factors make CA susceptible for pro tournaments any day, ya n00b

2/10 keep trying

So its true
"People who talk shit about CA...and are jealous tdm and ctf are dead game modes......and probably cheat."

Still banned for cheating? Fucking pathetic pisspoor faggot

this is true, i do quite enjoy a good game with 7 other skilled players as opposed to 1-4 good players on a server mixed with 4-6 newbs

And it is even better if the 3 people on your team are someone you have played with through a longer period of time.

I forgive you.

It's not that I find it boring, it's just that it doesn't work properly as a serious competitive game. Quake needs something, doesn't have to be items but something, to encourage movement around the map and make different positions useful depending on the situation.

Lol? Funny how there has been Ra3 and CA tournaments and ladders around the past 10 years where different teams were/are competing against each other, considering that it doesn't work as a competitive game(mode).

I'm not saying that CA should be the image of Quake we send out to the unknowing masses (even though CA might actually be the gamemode that would attract the most new players), but of course it is competitive.

And fyi CA is in fact about positioning. Watch that demo of strenx and see how far his superior aim gets him when being out of positioning round after round.

I know it's about positioning, that's pretty much what I meant. Tactically it's entirely about combat positioning, with no other concerns to make it more dynamic.

And I'm not arguing that competitive CA doesn't exist. :p
Just that it's rubbish and broken.

I'm being half facetious/trolly, half serious. Obviously if people play it and enjoy it, it's worth it and in one sense it 'works'. But I think it's fundamentally flawed, and 'broken' in the sense that there's no room for tactical depth or development.

I made an article on the subject.

Posted by Memento_Mori @ 01:00 BST, 1 January 1970

A man ahead of his time!

Just read it and I agree with you. I would really love a set of such maps you describe (one big room to fight in), with no late spawns.

I fucking hate when the opposing team just +back, hide somewhere and spam. That's not why I play CA. A good example is Hidden Fortress. Hella fun if both team meet on Upper RA, but often (at least in public CA) the losing team tend to stop meeting there and start camping LG room and just spam nades in the corridor that connects the two rooms. Because it is hard to coordinate an proper attack with public players it sometimes end in them winning some rounds because the winning team is growing impatient and just rush in taking much dmg to their spam and then losing the round. The camping team now realizes that this “strategy” worked well and continue to do the same in every single round of the map.

That shit makes me rage. I want maps that forces the both team to meet at the same location and fight there. Maps exactly as you described.

The other option, is to change the victory condition.

To make an example: keep the same maps, but put in the contested areas a token to capture and hold for 10 seconds (like a flag or something). If a team manages to push the opponents away for that period of time, it wins the round.

If I recall correctly the leaked pastebin, they will add domination (or what was the name) which should have something like this.

Fixing the spawn system remains important though.

I'm very open to that option.

Sounds like domination mode from UT series. Alwyas wanted that one in Quake, it would be dream come true for camper like me. :D

Yeah people tend to not confront better players with better aim on even ground. I myself love being cannon fodder, can't imagine why would anyone not take their 20% lg against people hitting upwards of 40% against them. It's crazy.

Not that i necessarily disagree with you, but you're being way too harsh. Not everyone is good. Not everyone is decent, even. If i have a better chance of doing something by running the fuck away and spamming nades in the general direction of my enemies, you bet your ass i will, and any crap player like me that doesn't do that is a retard.

If only you newbies would play eachother, and eachother only.

The fuck am i supposed to do if QL arbitrarily decides i'm on the same tier as players like you? I do prefer offensive play to defensive play when i am against players near or on my level. But you can't expect players much worse than you to gleefully throw themselves under your guns for your amusement, is all i'm saying.

Also i'm not a newbie, i'm just shit. Small distinction i know, but an important one. :@

I know it's just annoying for everyone.

"The fuck am i supposed to do if QL arbitrarily decides i'm on the same tier as players like you?"

^^ this.
And the funny thing is that the stronger players, that shouldn't be in your server, things they have the rights to insult you for not being at their level (=for not spending dozens of euros in mouse, mousepad, and premium/pro accounts).(and considering that you have not payed your whallack/aimbot/triggerbot/item timer, just that one of your clan gave it to you for free).

Oh, don't be stupid. It's not about euros and expensive mouses, mousepads and shit like that. Some people are just better. I so hate those stupid excuses... just give credit where credit is due.

Only semi-valid excuse there exists is "I'm bad because other people have more time to play" but even that isn't completely true.

so you are saying that you can be at your full potential with a 5 $ mouse, playing on the desktop and with a 85 ping.....
THESE are excuses and liars....

no, but u dont need an awesome setup to have a decent amount of skills

well, about that i can only agree. Even more that decent

Im pretty sure I can rape you with a 5EUR wmo using my desk as a pad.

you don't even deserve an answer, since you compare the WMO at a 5$ crap mouse

I'll take that as a yes.

reading what you have wrote, i'm starting to think that i could beat you with my wmo and a note as a mousepad

go for it.

how come you are not on my ignore list you little shithead?

BYE BYE

oh god please no!

Have the same problem as you: oldschool player with shitty skills. :)

Ah well, what can you do right? At least we can feel entitled due to being old-school. :D

While I can see what you are saying, you should understand a lot of good players got good by 'gleefully throwing themselves' at better opponents and getting crushed. Eventually this painful process resulted in learning to defend themselves. I can assure you people hitting over 40% LG did not develop that skill by sitting in the LG room on Hidden Fortress and firing grenades into the corridor.

Sure, i know you need to play people better than you to get better yourself and put yourself into certain situations so you can learn from them and expand your abilities.

There is, however, something called a "skill ceiling", and i crashed into that shit head-first years ago. You need to be realistic about those things.

Bottom line, while i see your point and partially agree with it, i don't think it's applicable to everyone.

DUDE DONT EVER GIVE UP.
You can achieve anything you want. You just have to belief in yourself and work as hard as you can. There is no such thing as talent, natural abilities or skill ceiling. Created myth by lazy people who never put enough effort into something. Trust me practice 10000 hours and strenx will shit his pants!!!!!!

right on brother! so um.. why haven't you become world champ yet?

Because Im not yet finished with my practice but soon Ill be teh best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SUzcDUERLo&feature=related

this, so much. i don't care if you don't want to do it, but please don't complain about other people actually going through with it. i used to love searching for awesome players and see what they can do in quake (to me), instead of the now usual whine about someone good being 'unfair'.

I would like to play newbies, only problem is there are no newbies in any Quake. Newbies come only to shitty new games.

;)

that's why I dont play pub ca. only ca that's fun and semi competitive is 1v1 and 2v2 vs friends where there's a common understanind about meeting spots/no excessive camping.

You are right but 4v4 with competent players is so fun :(.

Oh yeah it's fucking brilliant when people chanting "go bridge" get what they want and best case scenario everyone comes and its a 4v4 cesspit which quickly turns into 4v2 or 4v1 because noone can hit over 30% accuracy or because your teammates decided to leave just before the round starts. I am taking my chances solo, thank you very much.

That's why you aren't a CA player and I am.

oh gosh, i cannot time items and i donīt have movement...

hey..lets try without..and call it CA

BYE BYE /ignore

It has nothing to do with lacking skills. I am dueling aswell and my timing is actual pretty good. I time RA and MH to the second. I'm just having most fun playing CA, and I am playing games to have fun (yeah I know it's silly).


And btw: saying that Ra3/CA players (not the common public scrubs) have bad movement is kinda stupid.

iīm sure youīre into this as well

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyw3BcnAn0c


btw: smooth movement, too

And who are you? You act all tough, can you back it up?

Yeah I didn't think so.

WORD DAT NIGGA GLASS SON

DONT SON ME, BOY!

sorry, this forum is full of garbage people, why show up here more often and talk. i just throw silly shit like most ppl here.
lets put it like this..even most ql pros have shitty movement in my opinion...and i can actually believe that movementwise good CA players have superior movement. so i agree with you about me making a stupid remark. but then again, what is good movement? clipping corners and good circle or strafejumps? or the timing when to start moving on a point of a map to get to another one while beeing most efficient?..i duno..i donīt want to argue, you win

btw: ql movement is not that complicated. q3 had lots more depth movement wise. just an opinion ofc

Retard.

you could have told me that in private. now everybody sees us fight. gee, they even might think iīm a retard just because you called me one. now you are probably smart and say something like "well they would have figured without me" and i say you win. what else is new

same here man... srsly sometimes i got a feeling that CA players are bots, they just all go bridge on dm6, while i simply outflank them, dealing good dmg...

be smart -> outmaneuver ur enemy

dealing good dmg and your team loses. go back to tier 2

Yeah, much better to die first and team still loses.

organised or unorganised who knows

I wish I hadn't watched those demos that was just fucked.

http://www.2shared.com/file/UJ2AZyRm/Strenx_LG.html

ye, that's what i wanted :). ty dude

Oh no, I learned my lesson. Once bitten twice shy. I'm staying the hell away from the strenx CA demos now thank you very much!

They are all 1v1 LG only (more or less) on thunder and hellsgate.

I generally never go to forum, but nevermind :).

I actually play CA for fun, and I don't really know and don't really mind about positionning, I just do what my team tell me such as " you focus this guy " and nothing else.
The reason why I generally play only tunnel on thunderstuck 24/24 is because I'm quite bored when people just use shaft against me to prove they do outshaft me, which I think that they would do it anyways, but I really want to show them that CA is not only about rushing and using shaft, it is more than that and they have to understand that their shaft are not so great when the opponent uses position.

If I had to play CA, I would not play as everybody do, which means, regroup only here, I would make different regroups and different ways of playing. Nevertheless, I reckon that playing everytime the same is quite boring though. But it is my standpoint.

I know that I'm not a good CA player, but as long as I have fun with it, I don't mind. I'm a dueller, never forget guys.

why dafaq is a good dueller defending himself from ca players i dont know

Maybe because he lost to some CA players and therefore tries to justify what he was doing.

Dude, I really don't mind at all to lose against CA players, they all have great aim skill, nothing wrong with that. I'm justifying cause I don't like to see people that are saying bad things, which are completely wrong. For example, everybody think that I hate cooller and he hates me, which is totally false also, we like each other, we just are rivals on competition and we act like bitch just for winning.

You play almost like I do, just with better aim, brutal and sexy :p

Yeah you seem like a decent guy, it's good not to take what people say and do online too seriously. I think most people know the stuff with cooller is really just messing around.

you also fail to understand that ca is not a competitive mode and therefore not meant for camping one spot like a sad prat (dm6 pillars for example).

you sir, deserve an award.

ok, never, promise.

youtube it plz.

MORE FOX CA DEMOS PLEASE
maybe even something newer than from 2009?!

someone shoudl bug him for some :x

Any cypher/tox demos?

http://www.esreality.com/post/2229718/nigga-plz/

"not possible u use tn" :D

this vid says: "I CAN BEAT strenx 3 TIMES IN A ROW. u must be proud of me"
ahahahah lame. even tho u lost this match

Why would anyone want to watch CA demos?? That's boring like watching grass growing or paint drying.

A lot of us half expected/secretly hoped to just see some ridiculous ownage.

yeah i just wanna see fox raping noobs tbh

I think CA matches(demos) offer an entertainment curve you won't find in duel/tdm: all-out, explosive attacks from the start, followed by a less intense jostling for positions among the weaker players who survived the initial firefights, ending typically with some cat 'n mouse, dirty tactics to kill off the rest.

So really a competitive CA player must anticipate quite an extreme range of play intensity. Just apples&oranges when one begins comparing playmodes.

p.s. Kind of boring demo though; like Stenx implied - he wasn't playing any kind of hardcore CA tactics. Plus cOOw is NOT your average CA'er.

Anyone got any cOOw demos then? :D

i think strenx is funny guy, i want drink beers with him.

just watched the demos. rofl at volt with strenx and szr and heartless getting pwnd.
and btw, a mod where a pro like strenx can lose that badly isnt competitive? ^^

Ye but CA is only about aim, duh.

we lost mainly because of me, I was having a bad day :D

Everyone of you are better aimers than the krs crew, so you having an off day didn't do much of a difference. You lost because you were positioning badly.

yeah also :D

:-*

bot malfunction?

but volt won vs krS at the last ESL spring cup CA, they took a revenge :)

Does anyone have any demos of fox aliased as 9tails from CA?

Mistake

Mistake?

My comment wasn't meant for you. Sorry :)

lol ca

lol @ guy making 30 aliasing walling/aimbotting then loling at CA.

lol anon

They banned me for making a post asking when the new ql update is coming or else i'd be logged in - ya hack. BTW still beat you while you were walling/trigger botting lololol

oh it works again

A clan arena newb like you has never dueled, and beyond that, never managed a frag against me in any game type if you did play me in the past. This I can say for certain. I doubt you were even playing Quake Live when I was. Nevertheless, I admire the adulation.

i can't believe we have the best quake player in the world offering to stream himself playing and this fag gets more attention

didnt know cypher is streaming his games, link please

rapha, not cypher

[quote=av3k] last champion is the best [/quote]

cypher is champion of last lan

Hasn't Cypher won roughly as much as Rapha taking into account the latest lans (perhaps even more)?

strenx is not a fag you kurwanker

He's French. Same thing.


Oh, wait....

you right but he is gay :D

Fuck game without anti cheat, there i said it.

courageous does not do you justice but i lack better words to describe your brave brave character

you dont mean that