ESR - DreamHack Winter 2011 Day3

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<< Comment #200 @ 19:42 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (82.124.63.168) - Reply to #2

explain the sad faces plz

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yank3 - Reply to #200

what a haunting spiritual question

<< Comment #293 @ 10:32 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Xen_Crypt - Reply to #268

All the lonely people
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong?

<< Comment #295 @ 10:39 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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yank3 - Reply to #293

technically everyone lives in some kind of yellowish underwater boat

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sharpe - Reply to #295

In a strawberry field

<< Comment #283 @ 08:20 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #200

major part of the coverage posts were temporarily lost, thats why this one was made (now we have two d3 posts)

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tifu

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tifu - Reply to #5

Av3k!

<< Comment #25 @ 13:18 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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tifu - Reply to #16

also, i love rapha casting - so much insight deliverd in top notch quality

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Anonymous (69.125.175.122) - Reply to #8

can you find out what color enemy models rapha uses ingame for me?

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pks - Reply to #171

blue upper, yellow lower

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terrorhead

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r1ddler

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<< Comment #14 @ 13:09 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen

av3k vs. k1llsen @ dm13

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<< Comment #19 @ 13:15 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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d1z : - Reply to #14

[+]'d already, cause i saw that on irc. :D

Edited by D1Z at 14:25 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #53 @ 14:27 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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adrenal1ne - Reply to #14

this missing due to crash?

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<< Comment #162 @ 17:40 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Daddy_ - Reply to #53

look, zis, fuck It!

lmfao

Edited by kkk at 17:44 CST, 26 November 2011

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krabban - Reply to #53

strenx enjoying some of his own medicine.

<< Comment #271 @ 05:58 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Skvall - Reply to #53

I noticed that strenx doesnt use a widescreen resolution in ql.
Is that common or is it just him? Any reason to do it beyond just being used to it?

<< Comment #284 @ 08:46 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Infuscomus - Reply to #271

Almost every pro pay with a 4:3 resolution because they are used to it since Q3. rapha plays with widescreen and some australians I think but I think all the other use 4:3 (Cooller, Avekkk, Cypher, etc.).

No advantage I think, only a matter of getting used to it.

Edited by Infuscomus at 08:47 CST, 27 November 2011

<< Comment #37 @ 14:08 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (94.21.35.104)

someone make a fragmovie from avek pls

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T1E '

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mefajpE^

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old

Great play by Av3k!

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<< Comment #23 @ 13:16 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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buzek

av3k in his "bulldog mode" [(c) 2GD] is the single most beautiful thing in QL, pure pleasure to watch his hunt on dm13!

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<< Comment #27 @ 13:20 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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LittleRussianKid - Reply to #23

the most beautiful thing to watch is rapha picking him apart.

trust.

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kg - Reply to #27

It would've been awesome to see him get picked apart at his best. He just raged.

Edited by kg at 17:13 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #24 @ 13:16 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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luanswan2002

Why can't this website just work like other websites? Is it that hard?

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xou - Reply to #24

"Conceived and created by Sujoy Roy (Legal Notices) "

<< Comment #26 @ 13:19 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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pks

;)

<< Comment #29 @ 13:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Kerm1tTheQuaker

After this event I can say that the DUEL is so much better to watch/play on lan than TDM. It contains a lot more viewers on stream, it's more exciting, games are more intense, unpredictable and interesting. Quake TDM is still very good game but not to watch. Also TDM isn't good mode to promote quake for new players, because for them it looks like random shooting. Just my opinion.

Edited by Kerm1tTheQuaker at 04:53 CST, 27 November 2011

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<< Comment #30 @ 13:36 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Twisp. - Reply to #29

So very unpredictable, another cypher - rapha final :)

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Kerm1tTheQuaker - Reply to #30

In comparision to final of TDM wich was: colwn vs 300, it really is.

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outspoken - Reply to #30

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-,.- noone can just touch them.. friend
tdm is kk in the instant that you gotto go to bed whilest not tired. ;D

<< Comment #32 @ 13:54 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #29

as long as the casters do a good job of describing the strategic aspects of TDM there is no problem of it seeming random shooting

<< Comment #35 @ 14:03 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #29

CTF is much more exciting, than the cess in TDM

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<< Comment #43 @ 14:14 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #35

and ctf is actually easier to understand

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w0nk0 - Reply to #43

ctf is just really really bad in ql. even if the gameplay was ok the maps just suck.

<< Comment #46 @ 14:23 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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sirax - Reply to #29

When 4 guys who don't even play the game anymore, come to a tournament and clean up and no actual teams attend, then something is messed up.

Nobody plays TDM (including the guys who just won the tournament) - something like 100 games a day get played. Why did this warrant a major international tournament?

It's mad that duel wasn't going to be played at all, and TDM was chosen. It's like the community is actively trying to fuck itself in the ass.

All I can say is thank fuck for 2GD, and Twitch.TV for saving dreamhack. What a joke it would have been without the duel tournament.

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<< Comment #126 @ 16:28 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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obi - Reply to #46

Plussed with all my might

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cha0z_ - Reply to #46

Milion times this!

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frs - Reply to #46

not like the duellers are known for their activity :D

even if only 100 tdm games a day get played, its easily the game mode that has the most organized people involved in. but yeah i agree, without the duel DH would have been horrible with this team lineup, DHS was much much better. 2 weeks notice time doesnt help non-sponsored teams in the slightest either, but the biggest issue was the teamsbeing just horribly unmatched in skill

Edited by frs at 18:30 CST, 26 November 2011

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<< Comment #203 @ 19:43 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.115.1) - Reply to #175

Organized? What kind of BS word is that?

Face it, you're obviously biased frs, and TDM is a complete joke in Quake Live and that is not going to change. There are maybe 2 teams/mixes in the world that are capable of competing with each other, and one of them is MIA (the noctis/fazz/deus mix). The other is essentially a bunch of aim whores, with very little team work despite any claims to the contrary that come from all the TDM talking-heads here on esreality like you and vor.

I was a believer at first, but by now I've come to realized that QL TDM is just a huge aim fest and teamwork means jack squat. Cess cess cess, spam spam spam, whoever can hit the 50% LG and 80% rail wins.

Still in denial? How does a mix team of the likes of cypher and strenx play colwn the closest? Cause they can aim. It's just a huge aim fest.

And it's incredibly boring, when you know colwn will destroy pretty much every other team. I don't ever fall asleep during a quake tournament, but this time I did, and I'm not even going to bother going back to the VODs to watch that, I just don't care.

I think even CTF was better than TDM when it existed.

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frs - Reply to #203

meaning that the big mass of duel/ca games are pub games with players who never take part in any tournament, while a lot of the tdm players are organized and play in cups/clans/pickup. interestingly enough the duel leagues such as EMS are even worse with delays and dropouts than TDM ever was and thats only with 2 people involved in the match and the total amount of players involved in the league is smaller than in tdm or ctf for that matter.

tox and linkin have a 10 year history in tdm and both are tdm players first and duel second. stermy has been a top quaker for ages and winz is more than solid in every aspect of the game aswell. they are not only aim machines but quake machines. obviously their biggest strength is their aim but they actually practised for this tournament, which cannot be said of the dueller mix (and btw they didnt even play so close vs them, 300 did in the finals) who's only tactic was rush rush, colwn actually made some clear tactical calls during the games when they had to. its not like any single team at this tournament was an actual team and none of the mixes hardly even tried any teamplay besides basic holding of areas. atleast 300 made 1 teamplay effort to steal a mega in final osp5. truth is, none of them had "great" teamplay but from what i saw, colwn had the strongest. couple that with the strongest tdm individuals and there you go

Edited by frs at 20:42 CST, 26 November 2011

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vor_ - Reply to #203

I knew the event would be pretty shit for TDM, I knew months in advance because so many weren't planning on going. Teamwork barely matters with such a gulf in class between individuals in teams, you're right, the same as strategy barely means anything in duel between top tier and trash. When the event is *confirmed* so late and so many teams can't get sponsors and good TDM players aren't attending, it's going to suck.

I'll take your word on it being boring, I didn't watch any of dreamhack.

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InDepther - Reply to #203

from his posts that I have read, he is the least biased from the tdmers. He is like the opposite of vor.

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maltyplaya - Reply to #46

Fucking spot on.

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Anonymous (96.251.27.3) - Reply to #46

What needs to happen is what Rapha suggested - a 2v2 TDM tourney, not a 4v4 one. Would get more and better organized teams, producing more interesting games.

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blau - Reply to #29

TDM is not lacking more excitement or better games. It is lacking team-history and team 'character' to spice things up. If brain-rapha plays ueberskill-cypher, there is much more to get excited about than just the match.

When unmatched, sk, aaa, and ic played, that was TDM as it should be. 10 random teams build up for one tournament doesn't do that.

2ct

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<< Comment #243 @ 01:23 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #125

exactly!

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Anonymous (89.159.129.150)

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<< Comment #47 @ 14:24 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Derity - Reply to #45

thanks

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ashy - Reply to #45

thank you so much

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CDRrules - Reply to #45

Thank you :)

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filo

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... anyways ye, i like what rapha said about 2v2 replacing 4v4 TDM could be a better way , as in playing (scheduling etc) and as spectating (makes is more personal?)

... that aside i am missing a feature, so casters can pick a player from scoreboard with a click of a mouse... ... most of the confusion sets in when acaster frantically has to cycle thru the list of players . (this happens mostly on 2 power-up maps)

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tifu - Reply to #42

afaik you can just bind "follow x" before match according to /players list, i think lvlup guys did that few times

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filo - Reply to #50

... well then actually they should bind follow player for EVERY player to try make their casting more efficient.

I hope NVC or Disrepute read this. ^^

<< Comment #44 @ 14:19 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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JayDee_

When are the finals being streamed?

<< Comment #48 @ 14:24 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #44

in 6 mins

EDIT: but SC2 is atm on the main stage so dunno.

Edited by mefajpE^ at 14:24 CST, 26 November 2011

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Derity - Reply to #48

after the SC2 semi finals, which are currently at the 4th map.

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LittleRussianKid - Reply to #44

21:30 CET

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Six16 - Reply to #44

after sc2, should be soon..

<< Comment #55 @ 14:29 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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d1z :

I've collected all DHW'11 results (Duel & TDM) here, ~~but w/o VODs yet~~.

Edited by D1Z at 06:11 CST, 27 November 2011

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<< Comment #57 @ 14:38 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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gienon

Has ESR ever crashed because of rapha?

No, which means cooller and avek are better ;)

<< Comment #58 @ 14:38 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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FishStix

anyone have a link to nVc's past quake results image thingy?

<< Comment #59 @ 14:42 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #58

http://www.webcodex.es/ql1v1results.jpg

<< Comment #60 @ 14:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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butcher_kgp '

so when is rapha vs cypher ?

<< Comment #66 @ 15:03 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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JayDee_ - Reply to #60

http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacktv2 here/now :D

<< Comment #61 @ 14:55 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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GUArd

so what stream doesnt lag? FUCCCCCCCCCK!

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #61

russian streamer: opa, opa opa opa

ZOMG

RUSSIAN STREAM <33333

<< Comment #62 @ 14:58 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Franky4

It doesn't lag for me

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GUArd - Reply to #62

koki ziuri?

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Franky4 - Reply to #64

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/dreamhackTV2

<< Comment #63 @ 14:59 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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baksteen

what was that q3 movie called? it included cpm frags and i think custom textures?they played it on dreamhack stream in commercials

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #63

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YceuXmeWrU

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baksteen - Reply to #67

nope

<< Comment #65 @ 15:02 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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h8m3

my [+] are still there hehehe

<< Comment #68 @ 15:05 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen

test test (c) rapha

<< Comment #69 @ 15:06 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Vium

NVC is cool, even though he looks like that guy from little Britain.

<< Comment #70 @ 15:07 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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frs - Reply to #69

he looks like young sobotka from the wire season 2, he's also got polish heritage. took me a while to get what he reminded me of but then it hit me :D

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<< Comment #100 @ 16:09 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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oooo- - Reply to #70

And his name is ziggy aswell :)

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frs - Reply to #100

haha didnt mean ziggy :D but the father

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oooo- - Reply to #109

Oh yeah he was Frank or Franky.

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mrlamboukos - Reply to #113

yeah Frank sobotka and Ziggy the son :P

<< Comment #71 @ 15:08 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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function9

43k for finals, thanks starcraft. :(

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<< Comment #240 @ 00:50 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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GEKKO- - Reply to #71

Well it is a good thing. 40k+ ppl were exposed to Quake, and overall they did seem very positive about the game, judging from the chat.

I just wished we would have had a more epic finale. It really seemed like rapha had technical problems and didnt ever really play up to his potential :(

2GD did a great job carrying the show. In contrast everyone seemed to facepalm when that horrible host swooped in and made everything akward :S

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Paladia - Reply to #240

Just check http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/mq...c2_finals/ or the hundreds of comments about it on TL.

<< Comment #73 @ 15:09 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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hegarty

Add on the extra 14k viewers that are watching the Day9 stream

Edited by hegarty at 15:13 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #144 @ 16:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.115.1)

After this LAN, I agree.

Duel is the only thing left for Quake Live, TDM is not a real game mode.

<< Comment #75 @ 15:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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fuzz

jesus take the wheel

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<< Comment #76 @ 15:34 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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ffx

Solid lg from rapha ...

<< Comment #77 @ 15:35 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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kK_Storm

sens bug?

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tourist - Reply to #77

sens bug

<< Comment #142 @ 16:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (94.21.35.126)

sens bug lol WHO WOULD HAVE TOUGHT. really rapha steelseries have like 5 diff. mouses, its free for you just pick one

<< Comment #78 @ 15:38 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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scowl

lol rapha has mouse problems... classic!

<< Comment #79 @ 15:40 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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vxd

Third time in a row and of course in the grand final, funny

<< Comment #141 @ 16:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (95.247.22.239)

last tournament played online, omg, thanks id software

<< Comment #81 @ 15:42 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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butcher_kgp '

the revenge of the sensi bug

<< Comment #82 @ 15:43 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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ffx

wmo=trash :D

<< Comment #83 @ 15:43 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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JayDee_

Interesting banter between the 40 quake players and 40k+ SC2 players on the stream.

QuakePlayer: QUAKE=SKILL!! CoD SUCKS!!!

SC2Player: lol is this Halo? When does sc2 come on?!?

<< Comment #89 @ 16:01 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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buzek - Reply to #83

twich tv chat is like 4chan live:

"cyper appears to have really nice skin D: I'm jealous"

<< Comment #124 @ 16:26 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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JayDee_ - Reply to #89

haha yea i had to stop looking at it because my brain was about to explode :)

<< Comment #90 @ 16:03 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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buzek - Reply to #83

twich tv chat is like 4chan live:

"cyper appears to have really nice skin D: I'm jealous"

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melechesh ' - Reply to #83

"First time I played quake i got 20 frags in hour lol the game is easy"

<< Comment #146 @ 16:46 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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jamalz

btw raphas problem is his mousecord, when your mousecord is fucked up it changes from slow to fast sens and vice versa, i recently fixed this on my mx510 when switching the cord

so it isnt his cfg or account, but his mousecord

<< Comment #145 @ 16:46 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (206.167.183.153)

http://i.imgur.com/NnwR2.jpg

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<< Comment #84 @ 15:58 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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duumed

2ez4cypher

Edited by duumed at 15:59 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #85 @ 15:59 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Bono

rapha era is over. cypher is simply more skilled now.

<< Comment #86 @ 16:00 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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luanswan2002

Cypher having another leisurely stroll in the park. Quake park.

<< Comment #140 @ 16:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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I4C

sens bug strikes again!

<< Comment #87 @ 16:00 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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r1ddler

REBOOT; CHANGE MOUSE USB PORT

<< Comment #88 @ 16:01 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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xgo

'80%.... blah bla bla... 90%!!! OK!!!'
super rage :D

<< Comment #91 @ 16:03 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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r1ddler

DHW STAGE ANNOUNCER interviewing 2GD and NVC .

"SO DO YOU TALK"

<< Comment #92 @ 16:03 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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r1ddler

DHW STAGEANNOUNCER DOUCHBAG, WTF? :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

<< Comment #93 @ 16:04 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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kK_Storm

Rofl this ginger creepy guy :X

<< Comment #94 @ 16:05 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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luanswan2002

Can someone please shoot the awkward as fuck ginger guy? Making inappropriate comments.

<< Comment #95 @ 16:05 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen

This ginger cunt is a fucking idiot. Seriously. You're not fucking funny, you're not witty, you're just an awkward cringing ginger.

<< Comment #99 @ 16:09 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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yank3 - Reply to #95

i saw some big fat veins popping up in av3k's face

<< Comment #101 @ 16:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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luanswan2002 - Reply to #99

Avek: "It could have gone better..." (he was talking about Quake)

Ginger guy "That's what she said.."

I mean come ON.

<< Comment #102 @ 16:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #101

What a fucking prick.

<< Comment #105 @ 16:11 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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yank3 - Reply to #101

well, let's hope for some aftershow material

<< Comment #139 @ 16:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (82.124.63.168) - Reply to #95

i fucking agree with this guiness junky

<< Comment #106 @ 16:11 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Normalised - Reply to #95

dont need to bring his hair colour into it. i've got red hair and think he's atrocious as well.

<< Comment #112 @ 16:14 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #106

It's another descriptive to fuel the understanding that he's a cunt.

Don't take it personally, "I have a ginger friend".

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<< Comment #185 @ 19:06 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #106

red? stop being ashamed of your hair you little ginger ninja

<< Comment #278 @ 06:49 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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trolles - Reply to #95

and we thought we had assholes around in the quake live world...

<< Comment #96 @ 16:05 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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r1ddler

YOU LIKE GIRLS? HAVE SE X OFTEN? (too chyper)

DO YOU TALK (too 2gd and nvc)

i cried

<< Comment #97 @ 16:06 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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caesar_

ze ladies are ze best

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<< Comment #98 @ 16:07 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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vxd

Cypher played great in the whole tournament, he looked very confident, best quaker ever for me

<< Comment #219 @ 20:46 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (82.124.63.168) - Reply to #98

as avek said : last champion is the best player

<< Comment #103 @ 16:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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r1ddler

gg wp, shame for the usual rapha hw problems in the finals :/ tho, was a nice tourney even with all the problems

nvc,disrepute,2gd and everyone else at lvl^ good job and thanks too you all

<< Comment #104 @ 16:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Fulgore

Wow worst e-sports host ever.

Asking cypher when he's gonna get laid? o_O

Saying a, v, 3, k like its just random letters and numbers.

Trolling and not even letting rapha say one word.

And he doesn't even know the names of the sc2 shout casters (Tasteless & Artosis - which btw bring every tournament more viewers than pro games them selves).

Still great final and amazing performance by Cypher. Like a boss.

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<< Comment #199 @ 19:42 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (82.124.63.168) - Reply to #104

why do you weare israel flag now mate??

<< Comment #270 @ 05:54 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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thuNDa - Reply to #199

hes not the CTF fulgore ;)

<< Comment #239 @ 23:50 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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foctis - Reply to #104

I turned off the stream as soon as 2gd left the stage. Anything with that annoying orange-haired guy in charge was obviously going to be awkward at best.

<< Comment #107 @ 16:12 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen

Just throwing it in here in case people overlook it, but props to cypher for resetting the third map to 0-0.

More props for having the balls to say he loves his girlfriend on stream, too.

Respect.

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<< Comment #216 @ 20:46 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #107

Good sportsmanship, but after you're already up 2-0 I feel like it's a lot easier to make that decision. Haha.

<< Comment #224 @ 20:59 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #216

Yet rapha is famous for his comebacks, and he didn't have to do it. Yeah, it's easier, but it was good sportsmanship.

<< Comment #108 @ 16:12 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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godjiro

I shall write it here so that it is not forgotten. Douchebag announcer is a douchebag. I was expecting av3k to punch him in the face after the "that's what she said..." joke. Why are such morons announcing shit? And that's for QL AND the other games. That fucker has no idea what to do, and why he is there...
:(

Edited by godjiro at 16:19 CST, 26 November 2011

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<< Comment #110 @ 16:13 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Six16

Great casting from nvc and 2gd, excellent stream and games, wp Cypher.

2gd talking to the crowd during rapha's timeout was brilliant :)

Also, the ginger host was a retard... don't ask him back for next time.

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<< Comment #111 @ 16:13 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Carpio

F**k this sens bug shit Cypher played amazing! He was the better player today. GG!

<< Comment #114 @ 16:18 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Six16

also, that d3 trailer was awesome <3

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<< Comment #115 @ 16:18 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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squishy

did 40.000 ppl just watch ql finals ?

<< Comment #118 @ 16:22 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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u3a6 - Reply to #115

yes

<< Comment #123 @ 16:25 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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luanswan2002 - Reply to #115

Sorry to spoil it for you but most were just waiting for Starcraft.

<< Comment #127 @ 16:28 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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squishy - Reply to #123

still means 40000 watched ql finals casually :D

Thanks 2gd and starcraft i guess :D

<< Comment #187 @ 19:12 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #127

or had the sound quietly in the background while reading TL

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<< Comment #134 @ 16:36 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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smari - Reply to #123

Well I guess the Dreamhack organiser squeezing the QL finals between SC2 semis and finals really shows they care about QL and wanted high numbers.

<< Comment #136 @ 16:38 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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h8m3 - Reply to #115

most were alt-tabbed waiting for sc2

<< Comment #138 @ 16:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (78.147.75.41)

2gd back and fourthing with the crowd and cypher great atmosphere everyone feeling good then the ginger prick comes and ruins everything :/

<< Comment #116 @ 16:19 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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weltschmerz

quake is awesome

<< Comment #117 @ 16:19 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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latin.lingo

dreamhack tdm stats

Edited by latin.lingo at 16:20 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #119 @ 16:23 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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frs

anywhere to see the mccormic movie trailer?

<< Comment #120 @ 16:23 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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oooo-

A good weekend after all. The final was a bit dull and I expected more from rapha after seeing how he played against strenx and avek.

Edited by oooo- at 16:23 CST, 26 November 2011

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u3a6

i love how this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQvTyvVX_ys
made its way to the dh presentation video ;DD

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<< Comment #184 @ 19:06 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #121

Priceless ahhaha :D

<< Comment #256 @ 04:58 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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losty - Reply to #121

:D

<< Comment #122 @ 16:24 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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luanswan2002

Edited by luanswan2002 at 16:24 CST, 26 November 2011

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<< Comment #129 @ 16:32 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #122

why is it that organisers choose ignorant fools to host the final and do the award ceremony? why did that twat have to come on stage instead of letting Jay deal with it? I really don't get that.

those questions to cypher & the embarassing attempt to pronounce avek's name... *cringe*

<< Comment #149 @ 16:54 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Kapiter - Reply to #129

worst is that he steped in over 2GD who made as usual a great and funny appearance, what a show man :)

Hail to the new King of Sweden ^^

<< Comment #351 @ 01:15 CST, 5 December 2011 >>

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linkoo - Reply to #129

What questions for Cypher? I missed it :o

<< Comment #181 @ 18:57 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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TronicGgG ' - Reply to #122

fuck this guy

<< Comment #282 @ 08:14 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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dansen - Reply to #181

nuke

<< Comment #207 @ 19:47 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #122

He was a total douche with Cypher, he made him feel awkward and uncomfortable after he'd just won a major tournament, but Cypher handled it like a true pro quake player and well done to him.

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<< Comment #128 @ 16:30 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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d1z :

Okay, here is some summary of DHW'11:

1) Boring as hell TDM tournament. 100% one-sided, no mercylimits (why?!), but still - all matches have been streamed on main stream.
2) Great coverage by lvl^ as usual. I missed 2GD/Vo0/av3k show sometimes, but there were some delivered moments like interview with 2GD's mom and so on. nvc & Disrepute also did their job pretty well.
3) A little bit weird choice of streaming duel games, also I didnt like that so many interesting games missed.
4) Otherwise, DH admins let other streamers but lvl^ a access to servers (hello Quakecon), so we have VODs at least - but still the schedule of Duel tournament was just awful.
5) sharpe did an excellent job with those Day highlights movies, big thanks for him.
6) strenx failed one more time on LAN, and his rage is so sweety. <3
7) Shit one-sided Duel final.

In my opinion, if the next DH gonna have a TDM tourney also, admins should think twice about it expediency. Maybe it is better to refuse TDM and make one big Duel tournament with solid prizemoney, good mappool (bring ztn back ffs), bo5s in playoffs and correct schedule.

P.S. I was really imressed by ~~k1llsen~~ parkinsons shaft this tourney.
P.P.S. free zeroql.

Edited by D1Z at 16:32 CST, 26 November 2011

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<< Comment #130 @ 16:33 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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obi - Reply to #128

I had to mute it, it felt like he was actually mocking the players.

ok this was meant to be areply to someone else but now you get it

Edited by obi at 16:33 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #150 @ 16:58 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Shardik - Reply to #128

Your opinion is...your opinion. Thx for your...opinion imo

<< Comment #152 @ 17:06 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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d1z : - Reply to #150

did you enjoy strenx raging at least?

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<< Comment #188 @ 19:18 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #128

and 32 player duel...not 16

<< Comment #344 @ 09:33 CST, 29 November 2011 >>

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gooda - Reply to #128

free that fucker

<< Comment #131 @ 16:33 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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PYTON

http://pyton.blackcomb.pl/n00bginger.png

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<< Comment #132 @ 16:33 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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PYTON - Reply to #131

DAMN I SUCK :D

<< Comment #133 @ 16:34 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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h8m3

cfg packs:
http://cyberfight.ru/site/demos/31616/
http://cyberfight.ru/site/demos/31618/
any more?

tox lowsens ;S

Edited by h8m3 at 19:17 CST, 26 November 2011

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<< Comment #137 @ 16:43 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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oooo- - Reply to #133

This is one cfg pack by sharpe:
http://www.mediafire.com/?kpbclvo9qrk3xxk

Probably includes same cfgs as those two zips that you linked.

Edited by oooo- at 04:39 CST, 27 November 2011

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Anonymous (82.124.63.168) - Reply to #137

there is nothing to downloqd on this link wtf?

<< Comment #254 @ 04:40 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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oooo- - Reply to #217

Sorry. Fixed the link.

<< Comment #313 @ 15:48 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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mootseller - Reply to #137

Why is cooller cfg so dark? How do you make it brighter?

<< Comment #333 @ 07:06 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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nhahha - Reply to #313

This?

<< Comment #221 @ 20:46 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (69.125.175.122) - Reply to #133

are you guys sure thats rapha's cfg in there... he dont use completely green keel. he use half yellow half green. so are you sure?

<< Comment #285 @ 08:50 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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h8m3 - Reply to #221

sens, fov, name, etc are his so yeah it's 100% rapha's

<< Comment #208 @ 19:56 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #133

what's even more INTERESTING is that tox has SUCH A SMALL MOUSEPAD it's INTERESTING to see how he still aims so great on a SMALL MOUSEPAD

<< Comment #247 @ 03:24 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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extaleR - Reply to #133

going to the download page of cyberfight makes me feel like i'm back in 2001

<< Comment #135 @ 16:37 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Aquashark '

Just wanted to say I appreciate the Quake tournament. I haven't played since the original but watching the matches has motivated me to download the game from quakelive.com and try playing again.

it warms my heart to read these posts on teamliquid.. only to realize how disappointing QL is compared to a game like SC2 in terms of infrastructure

Edited by Aquashark at 16:51 CST, 26 November 2011

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<< Comment #147 @ 16:49 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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stripy - Reply to #135

ye, a few more rly nice ones tbh.

the twitch.tv chat had tons of shit comments( what game is better etc.), but the teamliquid posts are mostly rly nice (in regards to comments towards ql itself, or just normal question/answers/comments)

gg tl.

Edited by stripy at 16:49 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #190 @ 19:20 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #147

thats only because their admins are OMFGnazis...you probably have 5k wanting to slag off QL but dont want to be banned

<< Comment #281 @ 08:12 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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.syL - Reply to #190

No banning going on here http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/mq...c2_finals/

<< Comment #148 @ 16:54 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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EmSixTeen - Reply to #135

Same goes for r/starcraft.

<< Comment #222 @ 20:46 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (77.118.254.163)

Link to mccormiks movie trailer pls !!

<< Comment #151 @ 17:02 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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scowl

Duel final was so.... meh. Kinda like the last time when rapha lost 0:3 against cypher and everyone felt robbed of seeing a decent final.

TDM final was better imo, at least dm14 was a nailbiter for the first 15 minutes.

edit: Duel should have been either double elimination or Bo5 starting from quarterfinals.
TDM grand final should have been Bo5.

Edited by scowl at 17:05 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #153 @ 17:08 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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bl4ze - Reply to #151

damn I missed the first 2 maps duel grand final.. woke up and ended up seeing last mins on t7.. aerowalk score looks pretty close.. is it really good?

<< Comment #176 @ 18:32 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #153

Yes :). Only 3 maps, but cypher just played that good.

<< Comment #154 @ 17:10 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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JDMYO

The greatest quake player of all time reigns supreme. All hail king Cypher. Plays the game like an art form with cut throat efficiency.

<< Comment #159 @ 17:22 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #154

you mean Rapha? Yea it's ok that Cypher beat him this time but Rapha is clearly the Quake Live King. Cypher second ofcourse.

<< Comment #160 @ 17:34 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #159

when it comes to titles: rapha is the best, prolly because his gamestyle is very stable and not affected by aim...

cypher on the other hand is kinda god of quake3, pure genius and we could see it in this final... true ninja king od quake 3/QL

<< Comment #173 @ 18:14 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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JDMYO - Reply to #159

Rapha's awesome but Cypher is something else.

<< Comment #156 @ 17:16 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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scriptor

fuck, i couldn't watch final. if somebody knows where will be vods or demos plz post

<< Comment #166 @ 17:59 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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TronicGgG ' - Reply to #156

http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacktv2/b/301030819
@about 0:37:00

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<< Comment #157 @ 17:17 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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mcdaddysandwich

anyone see mccormics movie trailer?

<< Comment #158 @ 17:18 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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mcdaddysandwich

also, any youtube videos of this ginger cunt mocking players?

<< Comment #161 @ 17:39 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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mefajpE^

any Quake galleries anywhere?
interviews?

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<< Comment #163 @ 17:42 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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bl4ze

vod of the grand final, match starts at about 0:48:00

http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacktv2/b/301030819

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<< Comment #164 @ 17:47 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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scriptor - Reply to #163

thanks dude so much!!

<< Comment #165 @ 17:51 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #163

What about bronze final vod?

<< Comment #169 @ 18:04 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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TronicGgG ' - Reply to #165

http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhackql/b/301020178

<< Comment #192 @ 19:27 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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buzek - Reply to #169

from 0:48:54 - it's pure gold!

<< Comment #167 @ 18:02 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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frs

tdm finals vod?

<< Comment #170 @ 18:12 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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TronicGgG ' - Reply to #167

http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacktv/b/300991250

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<< Comment #172 @ 18:13 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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wrong person

thx lvl^ , thx 2gd , thank you DH . gg . gl hf .

p.s. DH'12 Summer for: tdm 2v2 & ctf 4v4 :]]]]]]]]] for mother quake

<< Comment #174 @ 18:15 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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boleslav69

Fuck vods and fuck stream with 3 fps on it. Game itself looks ridicilous and unwatchable. Upload demos and save this event least you can do for us who like quake. Amazing shots whole event and i m watching some shit blur getting interupted every now n then and massive amount of trolls talking about anything but whats on screen.

Cheers.

<< Comment #178 @ 18:51 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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nvc - Reply to #174

I think 50k viewers in the live final is saving quake, thanks dreamhack and twitch tv (zotac + plantronics for tdm).

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<< Comment #179 @ 18:53 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #178

you mean SC2

<< Comment #183 @ 19:01 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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nvc - Reply to #179

The entire crowd (even if SC2) absolutely loved the quake from what I was told by those behind the scenes, they cheered at every frag during mccormics pre match movie. Quake Live cannot be saved by our small community alone, our player base will probably never grow beyond what it is, the great thing about quake is how good it can be to watch.

<< Comment #195 @ 19:36 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #183

This. Quake duel is really entertainment to watch even if you are other game player. That's why we saw so much whine when esl drop it. I literally hear the crowd enjoy it. Btw, thanks for the great coverage :).

<< Comment #258 @ 05:00 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Dix - Reply to #183

well it has to be said....
if the stream wasn't the shit it was, maybe the number of quake viewers could have been higher

<< Comment #300 @ 11:09 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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flamey - Reply to #183

props on the casting, alot of comments on TL from people who havn't watched quake before & said it helped them understand the basics

<< Comment #306 @ 12:06 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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caesar_ - Reply to #183

well done to you and 2gd for explaining some of the fundamentals, as you were obviously aware of the crowd being predominantly for sc2.

<< Comment #235 @ 23:27 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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boleslav69 - Reply to #178

I know what you mean but what s in my head is this: 50 k ppl watching quake as something CRAP which isnt in any way. The final stream was painfull to watch such low fps n hickups. Before that it was better on lvlup stream but still with few fails too many.
They cant appreciate skill and gameplay if they cant see it. Some of the crazy rails on Aero looked like shit and nothing special duo low quality and fps (i watched it on 1080p+).
On such stream only ppl who played quake can know wtf is going on and how much skill is involved. I appreciate the effort from you guys honestly but in my eyes it could (SHOULD) be much better. It s fkn 21st century i wanna SEE what s going on not GUESS IT. Just my 2 cents.

<< Comment #250 @ 04:14 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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kapca - Reply to #235

I completely understand what you felt, because I felt exactly the same. Watching our favorite 10+ years old game on that 15fps(!) blury crap, was just as big blasphemy as the retard host at the end. I tried hard to unsee/ignore and just enjoy the coverage, but it was impossible for me to adapt and I eventually quited the final (and I just watched it now on the vod) .....but

I still think it was great we had Quake there! Despite the mostly imba matches we had this year, those youngsters on the chat who never heard about this game were so excited about it, and I think they don't really cared about the quality of the stream like we did, so you should try to see things from their perspective a little bit.

Imho we should be really grateful for DreamHack, for the sponsors, and for the nice coverage as well. Well done everyone and thanks again.

<< Comment #206 @ 19:44 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (77.118.254.47)

Mccormiks movie trailer pls !!!!

<< Comment #205 @ 19:44 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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jedimy

Cyphers rockets are so delicious, almost an 'abuse' of the game (in a good sense). Seriously, how many times did he direct rocketed rapha on toxicity when he was technically in a worse position and came out on top. He really has raphas game down and either rapha steps up his game again or starts to match cypher aimwise to stand a chance.

<< Comment #204 @ 19:44 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (92.130.16.84)

Really man i don't understand how can a guy like that get payed to do such a shitty work like that. I hope he gets fired or the head guys must be stupid not to see it

And wtf was with the TDM ceremony? saddest thing ever really. "Here are our winners, they get a check and a headset... cya later"

<< Comment #220 @ 20:46 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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setz

k, so tested out rapha's cfg.
which lines of code are responsible for the sounds and opponent sounds on his cfg ?

it seems as though he can hear shards or items being picked up as if the enemy was almost next to him. I know it's not cheating, but which lines specifically give out that effect
Thx

<< Comment #279 @ 07:14 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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fau - Reply to #220

s_volume 1000 I guess. I really hate it about quake that you need to set your volume so high especially in duel. I'm really concerned about my hearing because of this :/

<< Comment #182 @ 18:58 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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gienon

Wow, that ginger fuckface really brought the prize ceremonials up to another level of awkwardness.

<< Comment #202 @ 19:43 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (87.154.183.38) - Reply to #182

couldn't have said it better. what a respectless jerk... doesn't know shit about quake, pronounces avek's nick wrong and on top makes stupid insulting jokes. who the hell did him allow to do the moderation? i really have no understanding for guys like him. does he really think he is funny?

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<< Comment #186 @ 19:07 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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koekie

Thanks for the coverage xou, levelup, 2GD, Dreamhack, the guys from Twitch.tv and the rest that made this all possible!
Also was fun seeing other members of the community on stream (Ventz, owzo, Sharpe, mccormic, gda, HoQ etc.)

<< Comment #201 @ 19:43 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (66.90.73.223)

lol that ginger apparently has a lot of hate from starcraft community too
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/mq...aired_guy/

<< Comment #189 @ 19:19 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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buzek

Not sure whether everyone heard 2GD on stream:

- He's secured some money from Twitch.tv to host some tournaments. Basic idea is to have a major LAN tournament every three months this year (including UGC), so that pros might rest (or simply focus on other things in their lives for a month and a half after one and then start preparing for another one.
- There's also a plan to host few online tournaments with some money to be won, some kind of extended version of zotacs that would attract all the top-notch players
- Despite his co-operation with Twitch, 2GD on his own is also planning to start his own show together with Trance, atm they're building studio, which should be ready in January. Here one of the ideas is to arrange a set of showmatches with few hundred quid to be won, QL alongside other games. What's really cool is that to qualify for a showmatch, players will need to compete in Zotacs, which should encourage pros to take part (so finally no easy cash for Stren-x :) )

All in all, tons of action-packed duel stuff this year :) I really really like the way it all turns. Because if first-class esport essentially means dealing with douchebags like this ginger on stage, if it's all about licking' sponsors asses and attracting stupid crowds, then fuck it, let's make quake a narrow elitist club for the chosen ones, us!!! :]

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<< Comment #193 @ 19:32 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #189

on that note, I'd really like to know stermy's and 2gd's opinions about a 2012 UGC.

That could turn into an european quakecon, while also having other games there too but quake being one of the main attractions for a change.

<< Comment #194 @ 19:34 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #189

and hopefully 2gd forces ztn to be played at those tournaments :P

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<< Comment #196 @ 19:37 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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buzek - Reply to #194

yep, I guess so, he said on stream that he missed ztn in the mappool

<< Comment #238 @ 23:45 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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foctis - Reply to #189

Yeah this was great to hear. 2GD finally revolutionising esports like he promised :)

<< Comment #191 @ 19:25 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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megaman3

first of all, massive props to everyone who was involved into making this event possible.

and now to bashing their effort: TDM is simply not suitable for international LAN events.

Imagine if all that work and prize money went into a 32 player duel tournament, or feature CTF once in an european event with 8 proper teams.

Edited by -=AvengeR=- at 19:29 CST, 26 November 2011

<< Comment #197 @ 19:37 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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cha0z_

It was really good event. Duel tourney was epic. Chypa for the win :)

<< Comment #198 @ 19:42 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (85.64.131.205)

Hi guys, I couldn't find the vod fo r the grand final. Can anyone please post it? Thanks.

<< Comment #218 @ 20:46 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (71.11.144.96) - Reply to #198

http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacktv2/b/301030819

<< Comment #226 @ 21:11 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (85.64.131.205) - Reply to #218

Thanks, but isn't this SC2? I'm looking for Quake Live.

<< Comment #225 @ 21:11 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (85.64.131.205) - Reply to #218

Ah, found it! Thanks.

<< Comment #209 @ 20:01 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Carsomyr

If VODs of the play-off games exist, why aren't they linked on the front-page?

<< Comment #210 @ 20:05 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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adrenal1ne - Reply to #209

spoilers br0

<< Comment #211 @ 20:16 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #210

They wouldn't necessary have to be spoilers. A link that would say "Play-off VODS" ..?

<< Comment #212 @ 20:23 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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adrenal1ne - Reply to #211

mad?

<< Comment #230 @ 21:19 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #212

Yes I'm furious.

<< Comment #228 @ 21:12 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #211

What he means is once you watched the VODS, then the results would be totally spoiled for you! :D

I'm also wondering, where are the playoff VODS? I only see the grand final match. I want to see rapha strenx.

<< Comment #215 @ 20:46 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (82.124.63.168)

last breath.

<< Comment #214 @ 20:46 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54)

WTF! I missed almost the entire day's worth of duel action so I go to click the "no spoilers coverage post" and it's crossed out and there's now a link to the tournament website so I click it instead and it goes directly to all spoilers. :/

<< Comment #248 @ 03:50 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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gienon - Reply to #214

Yes, rapha got whooped.

<< Comment #261 @ 05:17 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #248

Not sure why you're telling me that (because I'm American?), but yeah he sure did. Cypher looked too beastly. Rapha played great against strenx and av3k, but cypher had his number. Overall a really enjoyable duel tournament, but I would have hoped for a closer final, ya know.

<< Comment #315 @ 16:02 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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gienon - Reply to #261

I was just providing you with even more spoilers ;D You being American is just a coincidence.

<< Comment #229 @ 21:12 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (88.134.8.196)

Without the duel tournament this event would have been indeed worthless. I also agree that this red haired orga guy is a douche. Cypher looked pretty childlike (how old is he?) but who cares really..
Imo 2gd gets too much credits for his casting, his jokes are all on the cost of others, some may be considered pretty rude for this setting and he shows his disagreement with his co-caster (reasonable or not) way too much.
Anyway thx to lvl^ and twitch.tv!

CTF would be awesome but also only with a proper attendance :E

<< Comment #227 @ 21:11 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54)

All in all, a great duel tournament and the TDM was kind of boring. We need to switch it up some every now and then to keep things fresh and exciting. CTF now TDM then 2v2 at some point like rapha mentioned.

<< Comment #231 @ 21:20 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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dru1d

If you thought that dreamhack host was a douche, please go ahead and let him know, here's his youtube account.

http://www.youtube.com/user/tejbz

How he got that job i'll never know.

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<< Comment #265 @ 05:34 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #231

FOR AVEKKK!!!

Edited by iavoal at 09:19 CST, 27 November 2011

<< Comment #288 @ 09:34 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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hgt - Reply to #231

i told him why his father should have been smash him to the wall right after he borned, but he deleted my comment =(
than i told that with deleting he just further confirms the truth in my words, and now im banned from this "awesome" channel lol

<< Comment #305 @ 11:46 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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TronicGgG ' - Reply to #288

He deleted the other appropriately negative comments, too (including mine).

<< Comment #348 @ 05:19 CST, 30 November 2011 >>

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raythenoob - Reply to #288

so you call out kkstorm for , supposedly calling someone out, and then you repeat the condemned behavior here by calling out the host of the dreamcast event? You're a champion.

<< Comment #317 @ 18:41 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #231

Yep, he deleted negative comments. Still it's funny to troll him though so.... :)

<< Comment #232 @ 21:31 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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uaShadow

Final, Semifinal, 3rdplace game - http://www.own3d.tv/uaShadow

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<< Comment #233 @ 21:33 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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Demiurge '

sorry about the 'missing' posts, someone deleted/edited them using an existing admin account. I have un-deleted them now.

<< Comment #234 @ 22:47 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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_djinn

Anyone have a demo or vod of the Rapha vs Strenx game? PLEASE :)

<< Comment #236 @ 23:39 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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foctis - Reply to #234

http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhackql/b/301003557 at 1:32:45 (starts part-way through the first map)

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<< Comment #237 @ 23:43 CST, 26 November 2011 >>

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foctis

I think huzzahs are in order for all the levelup guys, twitch.tv, and 2gd.

<< Comment #244 @ 01:39 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #237

I agree. lvlup as always doing a fantastic job and 2gd/twitch pretty much keeping quake alive. I know we (the community) whine a lot, but I (and I assume all of us do) really appreciate it.

<< Comment #241 @ 00:56 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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0x5f3759df

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/mq...the_quake/

Ignore the OP, read the comments.

Quake is AWESOME

QUAKE LIVE IS AMAZING , I LOVE BOTH AT THE SAME , SC2 AND QL

Proper f**king esport.

etc.

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e:http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/mq...c2_finals/ also

Edited by rushhh at 01:21 CST, 27 November 2011

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<< Comment #242 @ 01:20 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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palatka - Reply to #241

good read. also very nice of dreamhack to schedule the final just before SC2 so that people who usually wouldnt be exposed to quake was

<< Comment #252 @ 04:31 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Aquashark ' - Reply to #241

there is potential, but id software is too cheap and retarded to promote the game the right way.

<< Comment #289 @ 10:08 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #252

q3 worked because we could modify it,add mods,maps etc..imagine q3 without OSP or cpma

i think they should release a map editor and make all the options callvotable

apart from everything else that ql is lacking, this 2 things are probably the most important for quake growth

ql is already easy too use, now its just has to be more fun :)

<< Comment #292 @ 10:27 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #289

lan servers

for me is the most important missing feature

<< Comment #297 @ 10:42 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #292

ye very true, PRO should have a spawn local server feature :/

<< Comment #245 @ 02:05 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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cRee_

Cypher again showing why he's the man to beat.GG

<< Comment #246 @ 02:22 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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PopeJo

all the finals where shit. TDM and duel.

I'd recommend only watching the VODs from day 2.

<< Comment #276 @ 06:29 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #246

av3k vs k1llsen was the best game, especially dm13

<< Comment #309 @ 14:17 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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PopeJo - Reply to #276

too bad that game never happened
strenx vs k1llsen was nice, thou.

<< Comment #310 @ 14:42 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #309

bronze final?

<< Comment #322 @ 01:12 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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PopeJo - Reply to #310

omg your totally right :o
sry

<< Comment #249 @ 04:14 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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krabban

All around great show by both players and lvl^.

That douchebag tejbz need to GTFO though, loved when 2gd started trolling him.

<< Comment #262 @ 05:17 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (84.236.99.114)

i just want to say thanks for levelup tv, providing extreme quality of coverage. casting the way it needs to be done

<< Comment #253 @ 04:34 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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eh

+ + + 2gd and nvc
+ cypher wp (although rapha kept shooting rockets in his own face)

- 3:0
- QL sens bug?
- - - tejbz (please leave and never come back!)

Overall not really a good advertisement for Quake Live, but 2gd saved a lot imo.

<< Comment #273 @ 06:03 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.115.1) - Reply to #253

Yepp, it simply came down to, cypher made no mistakes and played well, and rapha did not. Rapha made many mistakes, I feel like he could have won t7 and hub if he did not make mistakes, and I felt like it should have been a 4 mapper at the least.

This is like exact role reversal of old days, when cypher would be the one who chokes against rapha, now the opposite is true.

<< Comment #255 @ 04:52 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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tourist

<< Comment #257 @ 04:59 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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tifu - Reply to #255

oh the humanity...

<< Comment #274 @ 06:03 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (84.236.99.114) - Reply to #255

the most embarassing thing is the girl is probably his sister

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<< Comment #263 @ 05:25 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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latin.lingo - Reply to #255

is this guy really the "host" on DH final? who was totally stupid?

<< Comment #266 @ 05:41 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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yank3 - Reply to #255

what a fucking slave. the typical internet abomination celebrating his slavery, a groper with discomuscles and ugly all the way. how can he make up his kiddy fancy hair and manage to not puke all the time into the mirror. as if he would ever get laid. waaaarrrrr

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<< Comment #320 @ 22:14 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #266

damn! remind me never to get on the wrong side of you :) [good to know the pen is still mightier than the sword]

<< Comment #335 @ 09:09 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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yank3 - Reply to #320

even if he would read it, i don't think his feet will ever touch the ground again

<< Comment #259 @ 05:03 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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calleking

I was actually there with som mates. I think most people in the dreamarena enjoyed QL even tho rapha didn't perform as Good as in his previous games. My mates had not seen QL before and their input was that it was much easier to follow duel than TDM or SC2. One big problem during the final on the stage was that the streaming config was way too dark and it wasn't that easy for the viewers to see the architecture of the map. I think the current stream config works great on your computer but on the stage something else should be used in the future.

Tanks to everyone involved :)

<< Comment #339 @ 15:29 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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nvc - Reply to #259

We didn't really have time to check it out, so i'm extremely sorry for that, i'll make sure to add some additional gamma to our values for next time.

<< Comment #342 @ 16:47 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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calleking - Reply to #339

No worries. Just thought it could be good feedback for future events :)

<< Comment #260 @ 05:11 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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sizzrp

haha that video:D that explains everything:/

gg's thx for the coverage boys!
cypher..respect!

<< Comment #264 @ 05:29 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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kK_Storm

Mad props to xou, Trance, Disrepute, nvc, 2GD and all the players and people who followed the event. It was fun overall, but still could be better. Congrats cypher and colwn, commiserations rapha, it was clear something was wrong with him in that final.

GGs!

p.s. "could be better" means:
-BO5 since quarters in duel (sc2 gets bo5 since semis and bo7 final and the games there take from 10 to 30 minutes on average) and BO7 in fucking final!
-player interviews (I knew there were some, but they were mainly about TDM)
-slightly adjusted schedule so we could see most of interesting/deciding group matches and all quarters of duel

Edited by kK_Storm at 05:37 CST, 27 November 2011

<< Comment #267 @ 05:41 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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yank3

thanks lvl^ and the rest

<< Comment #269 @ 05:52 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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yuri_akira

tejbz = the dumb version of josh homme

<< Comment #277 @ 06:43 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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esdf '

day 3 highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_d...GMO73sxbfU

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<< Comment #280 @ 07:53 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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drink.more

av3k must KO that gay hoster lol!

<< Comment #286 @ 08:54 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #280

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i think the best is to forget him, such a jerk. unfunny clown.

<< Comment #290 @ 10:16 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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r1ddler

Link to actual day 3 highlights please

those first 2 where very well made, so i really wanna see the day3 vid :>

<< Comment #291 @ 10:18 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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r1ddler

Is there post-final interview with rapha, regarding the hw problems and what went down there on the main stage?

<< Comment #294 @ 10:37 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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faerie_

Regarding the sensitivity bug, I think most people who never experienced it don't understand how it can undermine your game : miss a few standard shots and you'll become suspicious ( see the little circles he did with his mouse on aero, as to check wtf was wrong ), then shit won't feel right again unless you go out for a walk or have to wait 2 hours and come back fresh to your next game.
Dunno if Rapha still gets the wobbly sensitivity problem ( it's kinda fixed from what I can tell aka feels a bit different when it kicks in but not a major source of mousepad sweeping anymore ) but maps changes still do fuck shit up ( t4-t7-dm20 have always been the ones that seem to feel the most fucked up )

inb4 cypher played better : he did.

<< Comment #303 @ 11:29 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #294

So annoying to have every other final that rapha competes in ruined by this 'he would have played better if only..." feeling.

<< Comment #308 @ 12:41 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #303

true

by now no-one can deny the existence of a sens bug, from raping strenx with 90% to being raped by chyper where raph had 18% rail

<< Comment #311 @ 15:33 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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eh - Reply to #308

by now no-one can deny the existence of a sens bug, from raping strenx with 90% to being raped by chyper where raph had 18% rail

I blame the spaghetti monster.

<< Comment #316 @ 16:27 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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stripy - Reply to #308

only one i heard it happen to during the tourneys is rapha. and from what little i know, the only common denominator is hes ql account (not the hardware, not the software, he redid hes whole cfg afaik, and only keep happening to him)

<< Comment #326 @ 04:17 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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Python - Reply to #316

Not account related, tried different accounts, cfgs..blah blah blah you name it and I've tried it :(

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Python - Reply to #294

Sensitivity bug is the weirdest thing out. I can only think it is the way Quake Live is integrated with the browser. I say this because I had never experienced it in Quake3 unlike Quake Live.

Seems to happen to a few people (http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php...ged-thread)

Edited by Python at 04:16 CST, 28 November 2011

<< Comment #296 @ 10:40 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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ischju

hope to see 2v2 in future tournaments PLUS new MAPS
more quake tournaments going to happen should give cooller reasons to train again (:

<< Comment #298 @ 10:46 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #296

2v2 isnt spectator friendly tho, usually there are huge score gaps, at last thats how it was before

<< Comment #299 @ 10:51 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #298

usually, yes. it really depends on the teams though. thats why i would actually root for ctf because its pretty spectatorfriendly and really nice to watch i.e. seeing linkje rj out of rooms is just eye-candy.

<< Comment #301 @ 11:15 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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ph0en|X - Reply to #299

Ye i agree. Ill like to see CTF on next DHsummer. Would love to see EG and other us ctf teams there aswell :)
Read something about rapha wants to see ctf happening too.

Edited by ph0en|X at 11:16 CST, 27 November 2011

<< Comment #302 @ 11:27 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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scowl

I love how 2GD explains the maps in the grandfinal for minutes while the camera doesn't even show his POV.

Something like that would never happen for more than 3 seconds with someone semi-professional responsible/involved.

<< Comment #304 @ 11:45 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Infuscomus

The grand final was one of the best I've even seen when it comes to show. The host was lame but the scene, the presentation of the players, the crowd, the 40k viewers on the stream and all was excellent.

Also, Cypher did an amazing performance even though I'm a bit sad he 3 - 0'ed rapha so easily (just because I would have liked to see more games). His speech at the end and the way he answered the (bad) questions was perfect, there was a lot of emotion in my opinion and it made Quake look like a really enjoyable game to evolve in.

Also, if some people are interested, I gathered all VODs thanks to xou's link but I redid some cut that was badly done.

http://www.esportsfrance.com/actualites/26734/

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<< Comment #327 @ 04:57 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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xou - Reply to #304

what was badly done? :(

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<< Comment #340 @ 16:02 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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Infuscomus - Reply to #327

I don't remember, there was a link where the vod started from the start while the match begins at 40 minutes or something. Otherwise totally awesome job for having gather all the links.

<< Comment #343 @ 22:20 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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xou - Reply to #340

and you wouldn't tell me about it...! :(

<< Comment #312 @ 15:34 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Akuma

Thanks for the excellent coverage posts and scores/VoD listings xou. Makes it much easier to find and download all the content now :)

<< Comment #319 @ 22:00 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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Weird '

btw link to the duel final
http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacktv2/b/301030819?t=37m

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<< Comment #321 @ 22:37 CST, 27 November 2011 >>

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bmes_

poor fuckin cypher having to deal with that idiot RIGHT after winning....wtf...

<< Comment #323 @ 02:22 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (178.164.163.151) - Reply to #321

Look, Cypher is a true champion. He is not some silly youtube fag who whoring himself on the channel day and night to get $0.0001 from teenagers clicks. He snipes the very best player for thousands of euros. He don't even have to make an effort to dodge a retard like that host. It wasn't even a challenge for him intellectually.The prize awarding ceremony actually sent the message out pretty clearly: You can be an attention whoring idiot, trying to convince youtubers how awesome you are by silly music videos with your sister or playing COD to amaze 14 year old kids, but at the end of the day it is all futile because there is guys like Cypher out there.

<< Comment #324 @ 04:08 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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therm

cypher is and allways was the best quake player of all time

hes just turning into emo mode too often

but when hes not

he rapes

<< Comment #328 @ 04:58 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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xou

Dreamhack Winter 2011 - Finals Highlight Movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgqS5HA8Qzw&hd=1 !

<< Comment #329 @ 06:06 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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Nuked User - Reply to #328

* N U K E D *

<< Comment #331 @ 06:22 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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xou - Reply to #329

http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=9324&page=3

"ESReality.com is an English language website. Postings in other languages will be removed."

Edited by xou at 06:22 CST, 28 November 2011

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Lave - Reply to #331

there was no point in translating that quote. but whatever do your stuff

<< Comment #330 @ 06:20 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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Anonymous (134.102.17.204)

Will there be a dreamhack demo ftp with demos from all players gathered?

VODS are great, but i would really love to take a look on one individuals play per map in tdm games.

<< Comment #332 @ 06:23 CST, 28 November 2011 >>

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xou - Reply to #330

#DreamHack.Quake

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wingz

just watched the vod rapha vs strenx. toxicity, that's all i have to say

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Jako

After watching the final at DH, i'd be more then happy to give my right nut to watch a game with Zero4 and Cypher considering their current form.

Prediction would be a 5 mapper with at least triple overtime on each map!

Someone make it happen ASAP!?!

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drink.more

haha Jako

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Putton

tox on ospdm5 pretty solid :)

<< Comment #347 @ 14:24 CST, 29 November 2011 >>

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weltschmerz

Just found opportunity to watch the closing ceremony footage all the fuss is about.

The "host" surely is a douche (coke nose?). I still was more impressed by cypher's totally unimpressed reaction, giving out some likable details about how much he appreciated his girl friend taking an interest in his gaming and such.

This was a class act. Two leagues ahead. Very nice.

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gSTRUCTOR '

highlits video should have more of cypher final ownage, lots of awesome rockets and frags at least in the first two maps, can talk about third map cause i wasnt able to watch it.

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CAREEM

Is this cypher dancing? move to 2:07

Edited by CAREEM at 07:31 CST, 3 December 2011

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Ffleri - Reply to #350

no, it isn't ashton.