Yes. I must be parallel in skill to the person using cheats, regardless of the fact that he's cheating and I just wanted to make the game better off without people like that.

Also, that's not me playing him...how else would I get his POV? By asking him, "Hey, I think you cheat. May I watch your demos to verify that you do?"

I give out my demos when ppl accuse me. Just ask for them if u suspect someone. duhhh.

And he doesn't cheat based on ur video. Total shitfest, gtfo thx.

Just because I ask doesn't mean they will give them without hesitation.

But I guess you're right. For as bad as you claim he is, he can follow players' exact locations based on little to no sound and predict shots around corners. When it comes to open-range battle, he can't hit 3 feet in front of him. Man he's good.

don't bother with jamalz. he's just a waste of space

btw: i always suspected him too. good find.

he's just a waste of space

Coming from you, that's worth a laugh.

celestial?

Stop trolling. The wallhack is obvious!

guy clearly needs aimbot rather than wallhack

he bots occasionally

http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/statistics/ownsya/2a8d62ec-d037-11e0-9e8e-00259031fd90/ca/1

ya this...

So true, he's quite clearly shit and also wall hacking but if i was him i'd be using the bot instead, fuck he's bad!

doubt he cheats, i have played him and spectated him before and never noticed anything unless he started cheating recently

BURN HIMMMMMMM BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN THE FUUUCKER

Everybody knows he walls but he's terrible, so it's okay

I rape Ownsya in every duel I play on North America. But the video does look a TAD bit suspicious, oh well. Kid is a shittie. I don't care.

haha jamalz to the rescue!!!

nice rails

also: ProVariRox - aimbot, ban this shit.

Reported.

reminds me of noghost.

Those were the good days. Posting youtube videos with r_shownormals at slow-motion of, well, pretty much everyone. :P

i miss the innocence of it all :/

vault and own are very bad but they recently aquired something that took them to a whole new level, too bad it ain't higher than mines still. I dont want to accuse, because like Jamalz said, they are really bad, but something fishy about those {$} noobs.

good thing he sucks, also leave out the hipster music next time

If you watch this when you're super high, they both shoot at the same times. Who's the hacker now?

u

lol

savior

yea I already knew this, but every time I play him I beat him by 40-50 frags (not even exaggerating), so I haven't really cared. I have him on demo admitting that he used a bot from aimbots.net as well. most amusingly, though, he's one of the guys constantly accusing people of cheating and blah blah. shit is pretty sad.

fwiw, it seems like vetman has probably started cheating recently too. guy is awful and hasn't played for months, then comes back and somehow plays some decent players close, all the while losing to a few random tier 3s in the middle. he's not as bad as ownsya, but still bad enough to not really care about.

what's sad is there are a lot of other players who are more respected but sometimes cheat anyway.

edit: in that QL stats page, there's another cheater as well (b4byb34r) just fyi. edit 2: actually two cheaters. forgot that "stoked" guy.

Babybear cheats? Lol?

God damn. I always rape that guy, he must be pretty bad at cheating.

er yea. not every cheater bots all the time.

org cheats

more disturbingly you are both +b cs cunts. fail

jamalz defending cheaters? YOU DON'T SAY

haha, come on.. cheaters that suck? makes no sense amirite? I personally shit on ownsya in a duel on aerowalk 33-2. So like.. it makes no sense

when you gonna get sc2 so we can get rolled in 2v2s?

he's got another nick but forgot it...

whally has Cantgetoutofthebasement hax.

Which not only makes this scrubtastic accusation irrelevant -- since he has no excuse for losing to a shitty cheater when his full-time job is playing QL -- but makes him look like a huge fag as well. Any good player can beat a shitty cheater provided a good player can think and adapt. I see no such thing here.

You do realize I'm not the one playing him, right? I have no grudge against him if he beat me or cheated me. He's just a hacker and should be banned. Simple as that.

Also, he did get beat...badly. I've beaten him as well. I just thought I would take some free time to try and get a cheater banned, thus enabling a somewhat safer community even if it's just a 0.01% positive difference. If you see that as being a negative thing, then I guess that explains a lot about you.

This is ESR whally. They only care if it's a euro, a pro player, a dueler or a pro euro duelerr. Everyone else, especially us players can eat shit and die. Don't bother.

I don't actually really care, period. I just find his random cry for attention to be pretty pathetic.

Yes. I took the time to review demos, make and edit a video, post it on youtube, and send the demos to id support and get a cheater banned all for my benefit. I admit that I'm just an attention-whore, what with my average 5-posts-a-month recently.

You'd probably post way more if you didn't spend 95% of your waking moments tierslumming QL and rendering shitty "cheater exposed" videos to post on Youtube, complete with its own background music -- because that's the "in" thing to do nowadays, right?

tl;dr - Yes. Despite your desperate rationalization to save face, you are indeed an attention whore.

It can't just be a simple "I want to help make cheaters less apparent" reason, can it? It's quite funny that you're over-analyzing my motives when you don't know anything about me; whether it be who I am, what I'm like in and out of Quake, or why I feel the need to put an effort into catching hackers.

Simply put, I was bored because it was storming outside on my day off from work and I had such a fun time watching ownsya hack that I decided to make a "tribute". Now, bugger off and try to play "Online Philosopher" elsewhere.

It's quite funny that you're over-analyzing my motives

>notice a trend of cheater videos coming out recently
>notice scrub doing something you don't understand (not that you don't understand it because their actions are irrational; rather, because you're bad/retarded at what you do)
>speculate that said scrub hacks because, as mentioned before, you have no life/suck at a game you spend your whole nolife playing
>go out of your way to bother random people for demos of them playing scrub, review the demos, and render a video -- obviously, taking a lot of your free time in the process, albeit you have lots of that considering your "lifestyle"
>make a fancy post about said scrub "cheating," with the format mimicking a formal blog post as if the presentation of your post has to be perfect in order to stand out
>proceed to ramble and make excuses and rationalize when you get called out about your cries for attention

That's not overanalyzing. That's just me noticing you have "attention whore" written all over you. Sorry if it hurts for me to spell it out for you that you're such a sad human being, that you'd really post cheater videos about some low-tier player playing a dead/shitty game, and do it just to get attention, but that's 100% true. Maybe you should spend less of your free time in the basement, and more time shopping for rope?

You're right, that is not over-analyzing. What you have, my friend, is an obsession.

You mean that's what you have, right? I'm certainly putting a lot less thought and effort into this text than you put into that video, so feel free to be more of a hypocrite than you are now. :)

btw, your match history tells me otherwise regarding your "taking a day off from work." ;)

Then why the fuck do you care? Cheaters are discouraged because they have an unfair advantage against their opponents. Where's the advantage then if he's losing? Better yet, you should ask yourself where the exit of your basement is.

So your argument is that it's alright to cheat as long as you suck at doing it? Haha.

My point is that all that time you spend being shitty at playing a video game and being shitty at trying to expose "cheaters" whom no one cares about otherwise, could be spent learning how to properly interpret a single forum post, especially when it starts with:

Then why the fuck do you care?

Yet fails to even implicitly state:

it's alright to cheat as long as you suck at doing it

It's obvious to me now that you dropped out of high school to pursue the life of a professional Quake player, failed at even being a good middle-tier player, and are now spending your days posting low-tier matches to get people's attention. Get out of the basement, bud. There's a much bigger world than Quake once you actually go outside.

Nice 0% rail accuracy innit

time for tzac...

looks like he's banned. my guess, he probably wont stay away

That video may look rather suspicious on its own, but after looking at the first demo for a minute or two it is pretty evident that you left out some pretty damning counter points to your argument.

Counterpoints can be found in any situation depending on how someone interprets the gameplay, whether it be how they play or have seen others play.. I've seen demos of other caught cheaters with moments that could be explained, but nothing trumps a confession. He's been banned, so I suppose id came to the same conclusion as many others.

If he admitted it, then I guess good work. He does seem like an extremely poor player with that in mind, even with wallhack his decision making is horrible.

Actually he admitted to trying to 'own' the server with wallhacks. He was apparently paranoid at all the shit happening to him in game (thought everyone was hacking) So he tried to wallhack to out hack the hackers. And still got destroyed. He doesn't like or want to cheat, he was just raged and paranoid.

Too many motherfucking cheaters in ql now, (real cheaters) I've seen tons of t4 CA players go from lging 30 to lging 45 and trying to out shaft me, fucking hilarious. Also blind rails from all angles wallhacking pricks.

Like tyryl said, vetman hacking his ass off, and a slew of others in duel. They are finally here, cheaters that know how to hide their shit properly are invading the game.

"I've seen tons of t4 CA players go from lging 30 to lging 45"
"slew of others in duel"

Such as?

I'm quite sure there are a tonne of T4 CA hackers in NA. There are a lot of guys who always seem to hit those extremely long range rails (without any particular reason) around corners.

I don't know about toggling, but wall hacking is a huge problem. I think it's sad personally because I still rape most of them anyway.

no you dont.

In that case, it's a good thing that QL is dead now. Great, even. The QL scene is shitty enough as it is.

I remember this guy beat me on aero once, then i played him a couple days later and i stomped him a few games in a row. I don't duel often so losing is no surprise to me, but its odd when that inconsistent...from what I've seen he didn't look like hacks when I've played/speced him in ca mostly, and a few duels. But I've also heard he's blatantly used aim hacks in the past

He needs an aimbot to go with his wallhacks.

Jesus Christ those rails are awful. Just awful.

you have not seen me playing, you know nothing about awful rails :)

y care so much tbh?

quake don't get you anything noteworthy in the real world apart from eating your time.

Y SO SRS!?

If having fun with your mates and good memories doesn't mean anything to you, then you are right ofc.

True but socialising in game is easier than socialising in the real world.

Yes I had fun playing quake all those years and made some strong friendships but the fact of the matter is these relationships do not translate into the real world.

KUDOS earned through gaming is not akin to say learning good banter and awesome real life social skills.

People do grow up however.

Eventually lol

??
I wasn't talking about friendship or social skills, all I said is that fun and good memories are both noteworthy imo:)

agreed xD

socialising in game is easier than socialising in the real world.

Never played CA ldo.

who is he?

some low skill US dueller, you'd prly beat him with him having cheats on

:)))

next up: trex

Doesn't look like ownsya started playing better with those cheats, nice rails.

get off to ql forums, please. \o/

I dont find ql forums arousing in the slightest :|