ESR - DreamHack QL TDM Cup by JeeSports

<< Comment #1 @ 05:27 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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cha0z_

FOX \:D/

<< Comment #2 @ 05:28 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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kg

Is this for the teams which aren't payed up yet, or any?

<< Comment #5 @ 05:33 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #2

This is an open tournament thus all teams are welcomed to participate.

<< Comment #3 @ 05:29 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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frs

whats the obsession with only rewarding 1 team/player? well im sure reason are happy with the way this turned out. other than that, awesome

Edited by frs at 05:37 CDT, 25 May 2011

<< Comment #4 @ 05:31 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #3

fox

<< Comment #7 @ 05:46 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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noctis - Reply to #3

Well im sure ic are happy with the way this turned out.
Well im sure rage are happy with the way this turned out.
.....

<< Comment #9 @ 05:52 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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kg - Reply to #7

This is exactly what TDM was missing! Don't forget to do your part.

<< Comment #16 @ 06:10 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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noctis - Reply to #9

I don't actually have anything against him ... :P

<< Comment #18 @ 06:17 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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kg - Reply to #16

Damn it man, why are you spoiling the experience for us TDM fans?

Edited by kg at 06:18 CDT, 25 May 2011

<< Comment #10 @ 05:53 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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dictator - Reply to #7

better have one team with a decent prize than share the prize out and have no meaning to anyone.

I mean the teams that will finish top 3 all have the potential to make money at Dreamhack, it's not going to be anyone amateur.

Edited by dictator at 05:53 CDT, 25 May 2011

<< Comment #11 @ 05:58 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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xou - Reply to #3

way easier to ship all these things to 1 address :)

<< Comment #12 @ 06:01 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #3

whats the obsession with wanting to reward failure? it gives people motivation to push for the top spot rather than reaching top 3 and taking the foot off the pedal since they dont believe they can really beat the top team anyways.

its an online cup; theres no costs to cover so theres no need to reward losers

<< Comment #25 @ 06:55 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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frs - Reply to #12

since when is top3 "failure"? we need to start making teams want to reach div1 level and push for top spots, not reward 1 team of old school q3rs. div1 is very stagnant and atm lots of div2 level clans dont even want to practise vs div1 clans. the motivation for div1 teams is already there

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<< Comment #27 @ 07:10 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #25

because youre not the champion i.e. you failed to win

if they dont want to practice vs div 1 clans then the solution isnt having 3 watered-down prizes since there is more div 1clans than that. CB etc wise I can understand them not wanting to play div 1 (who doesnt want that "2" icon in their clan history) but if they dont even want to practice then the gap is probably too big and the odd 3rd place prize here & there isnt gonna change that

<< Comment #30 @ 07:45 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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frs - Reply to #27

well, you seem to have a different view than i do. you dont create a healthy growing scene out of rewarding only 1 team. you need to create goals that are achievable for 'lower' levels aswell. if div2 doesnt see any hope of going into div1, and bottom div1 dont see any hope of getting to level of top div1, then its going to stay stagnant and boring, especially if the few prizes that excist are completely out of reach. a bit like 2v2, why even bother having cups when everyone knows who the winner is, not quite as extreme though.

<< Comment #34 @ 07:53 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Disrepute - Reply to #30

When we started, we were bottom division (6) but we actually had the goal of reaching the top level. We slowly worked our way up, roughly getting promoted every year and we did this by accepting practice with teams much better then us from the higher divisions. We got smashed but we also learnt how to survive and keep it close and eventually got better at taking advantages and attacking those teams too.

Now teams will not practice with you if you are a division higher. They have no goal to improve or compete and that results in a stagnant scene. It is also why every team at the upper levels is made up of the same set of players switching their lineups every season, because there is no fresh blood.

What is the cause of this lack of ambition?

<< Comment #35 @ 07:58 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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frs - Reply to #34

well, when i got a solution i'l tell you. but thats excactly what we did aswell, we were stuck into div1 from the beginning with hardly any q3 tdm experience and got raped in the beginning, we've slowly improved by sticking together as a team and working our flaws out... which is sadly quite rare, seems like teams just switch lineups and hope for the right combination of stars/aimers. :D

but i dont think the right solution to growing the scene is to award 1 team of q3 superstars who swoop in from inactivity when prize tournaments are announced.

<< Comment #38 @ 08:13 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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wision - Reply to #35

purri/provi/damiah were top players in quake2 for at least a decade (duel/tdm).. and for myself I can say, that coming to quakelive while having only q2 (no q3) tdm experience helps a lot and make the progress much easier than to any other newcomers. So I wouldn't say it was that hard for xt :)

<< Comment #40 @ 08:22 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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frs - Reply to #38

obviously its easier if you have good players from other quake games, instead of total tdm newcomers. doesnt change the fact its still hard to compete vs guys who have 10 years of experience from q3 tdm, especially when its hard as hell to find proper practise partners. the q3 allstar teams dont even play unless theres a money tournament inc. props to 4kings for being a true players clan though.

just out of curiocity, how much do you think tdm teams from q3 would get raped if they tried to get good at q2 and had to beat a team of provi/purri/damiah/gerppa? yeah i dont think they would practise for long. technically purri could have joined the finnish nation team at some point, but he refused because he thought that would just ruin the whole competition and it would be pointless, atleast that's what someone told me

Edited by frs at 08:38 CDT, 25 May 2011

<< Comment #45 @ 08:39 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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dictator - Reply to #40

I think a decent player/team from any other game, especially anything fast-paced, could easily get to a decent level in 1 year even without any advice. Watching demos/streams and practice is easily enough.

The reason most people don't is they switch games rather than , as suggested before , giving up or switching teams. Say a team starts a new game say "Quake Live", maybe 2 of the team play for a bit and then stop and play a new game and the rest stay and improve. Or two of them play 4 hours a day everyday, while two can only play 1 hour or prefer to play another game in tandom.

Further to that i think a lot of the players left are the ones who either love the game which means some top pros, or ones who take a long time to learn how to play a game and don't get bored. I guess 90 per cent of an online gamers, if not more, don't play the same game for 1 year let alone 10 :)

The stagnation in quake is also due lack of motivation to be number 1, when you could alterantivily invest your time into something like SC2 or CS and in theory make more money. (At a top level)

Tbh, if a new world tour was announced with a huge prize with 1 or 2 years preparation time you'd see a whole now breed of gamers coming through and the game would change vastly. I guess that isnt going to happen though.

Edited by dictator at 09:03 CDT, 25 May 2011

<< Comment #52 @ 09:14 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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ffx - Reply to #45

Another problem is finding three/four dedicated guys who have the same ambitions to get better. I had the same problem in 1.6 and after playing for 1 or 2 years I had to make the decision to play either with friends and stay on our current lvl, play some aimmap ladders or leave them for stronger people, who both understand the metagame. Good aim doesn't mean that you can be good in 5v5 and I guess this applies to tdm or any other teamgame too.
This is why I currently focus on duel only and it is really refreshing how well I'm doing after a couple of months without caring about teammates. At first it was a bit hard as I couldn't blame anyone but myself but after some time you get used to it :P. Right now it is really hard to find people who want to get better as a team. Most of the people are playing for fun only and others won't improve at all as they don't and won't get the game.

<< Comment #63 @ 11:25 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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dictator - Reply to #52

We are looking to improve at tdm, well at least twister and myself but we never have 4. One is always afk (working) and the other is playing brink.

So you are dead right and the problem also is you can't recruit anyone established while you improve because they get too annoyed at the mistakes etc.

Edited by dictator at 11:31 CDT, 25 May 2011

<< Comment #71 @ 13:24 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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dashimself - Reply to #40

Juven1le is a good example against it. Guy came from Tetris, and made to top. : )

<< Comment #37 @ 08:06 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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wision - Reply to #34

There are lot of players who still have an ambition to get better (they don't even need prizes..), but it's much harder to become good as a clan, where you need at least 4 people increasing their skill, than improving just yourself.. current top clans don't really give a chance to players from lower divisions to join them and help them improving their skill. So the top clans are to be blamed as well.

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<< Comment #135 @ 15:32 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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_WarP_ - Reply to #37

You have hit the nail on the head, so to speak.

<< Comment #46 @ 08:42 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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kapa - Reply to #34

But you had 6 divisions back then, now if a few new players form a team they enter lowest division (3 nowdays?) and they'll play 123-5 matches, which isn't really entertaining even if you know you'll do better after a while.

<< Comment #48 @ 08:44 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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dictator - Reply to #46

That's quite true, you lose the capability to practise even close to your level which can demoralising.

Hopefully, events like dreamhack TDM will improve the interest meaning more teams and players.

<< Comment #64 @ 11:57 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #30

your goal can just be to do as well as possible. teams that require a carrot on a stick probably wont make it that far anyways

<< Comment #116 @ 12:52 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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eri - Reply to #25

I agree on that, it's what i used to want to achieve in q3ctf being a top player in that mod

But the recent qlctf "draft" showed me that 95 % of div1 people do not agree, their ego is just waaaay to big to ever consider the notion of helping lesser skilled ppl/teams become as good, god forbid they would ever lose to them. The skies would fall etc.

<< Comment #43 @ 08:38 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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dashimself - Reply to #12

frs has it. + him!

<< Comment #14 @ 06:04 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Vium - Reply to #3

they could move the hardware prices to 2nd and 3rd.
no one wants em anyway :>

<< Comment #44 @ 08:39 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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meh_ - Reply to #3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-zZO1Qwa8E

Edited by meh_ at 08:39 CDT, 25 May 2011

<< Comment #51 @ 08:50 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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frs - Reply to #44

considering its about a professional sport where tens of thousands of players get paid for playing and trying to get better, it only makes my point more valid. if only 1 team got paid in NBA, you wouldnt see people practising seriously for years and years just to "not be second". i wonder what the players/coaches and guys who give this kind of speeches would say/do if they got told that only the winning team gets rewarded. "im not getting my salary becase i didnt win, oh thats only fair" yeah, i dont think so

its on a completely different scale, but the idea still applies to quake. the lower level players can dedicate their time to getting better because they can see the possibility of awards BEFORE they are the very best.

Edited by frs at 08:58 CDT, 25 May 2011

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kg - Reply to #44

eh, kinda lame

<< Comment #90 @ 04:45 CDT, 31 May 2011 >>

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chubz - Reply to #59

Not lame if you do it properly, for instance:
Jeesports cup should have at least a possibility for upper and lower division and rewards for both, not the dreamhack tickets but the hardware/money. So the EC clans battle for money/attendance and lower clans battle for some hardware.
That way you would se 5 div1 clans apply for this cup with something like 4 div2 clans which plan to move on to div1 apply to try their best.
You can steer people in the right direction.

<< Comment #92 @ 08:03 CDT, 31 May 2011 >>

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kg - Reply to #90

I was replying to the vid.

<< Comment #6 @ 05:36 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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By $\0/$ fragerr

OMG I SPRAY CUM EVERYWHERE !!!!!!!!!!1111111

<< Comment #8 @ 05:50 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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kK_Storm

Fucking Awesome.

<< Comment #13 @ 06:02 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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ins '

fox casting! not even gonna play just to hear him!

<< Comment #15 @ 06:08 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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duumed

fox <3

<< Comment #17 @ 06:15 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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dem0n

hmmm that sounds really nice !

<< Comment #19 @ 06:18 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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mefajpE^

Oh my dear,

fox <3

Record vods, record every single seconds of the whole thing!

It starts 3 days before fox becomes father, I guess Quake is a good relaxing therapy ;D

Edited by mefajpE^ at 06:18 CDT, 25 May 2011

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Trance - Reply to #19

Because you have looked at the stars and were able to pin-point the exact birth-date for his kid right? :D

<< Comment #21 @ 06:23 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #20

http://www.fojji.se/

<< Comment #22 @ 06:40 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #21

usually they (babies) are not always on spot unless you force the delivery via medication.

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funnyb - Reply to #22

i know :) merely meant that mefajpe didnt just make up a day out of his own

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fazz - Reply to #22

Thanks for the information doctor Ischju. I am now know one more thing.

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<< Comment #24 @ 06:43 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #21

ok fair enough, maybe modern day tech took over looking at stars :)

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c1 - Reply to #20

since its foxs baby it will have a natural timing talent xD

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<< Comment #23 @ 06:40 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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phate

if all the top teams sign up, this is going to be sick! :O) noujz!!! :O)))

<< Comment #28 @ 07:32 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Disrepute

GO TDM! I will stream the games that 2GD and fox can't.

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<< Comment #65 @ 11:58 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #28

cant you just replace 2bd? =[

<< Comment #29 @ 07:32 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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kaboom

this is haaaaardcoooooore :)

<< Comment #31 @ 07:47 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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dlx

were is strenx with his bullshit talk about ic and how bad they are and how he and spartie will destroy everyone in tdm with other 2 random guys?

<< Comment #32 @ 07:52 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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draven-

bla 14:00cet fucking early... cant make that great

<< Comment #36 @ 08:01 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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frs - Reply to #32

yeah i'll be missing this too 8(

<< Comment #54 @ 09:23 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #36

as if u would have a life other than in internet

<< Comment #55 @ 09:26 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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frs - Reply to #54

yes im faking it to be as cool as you

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kg - Reply to #55

im sure he meets more womans than you do

<< Comment #61 @ 11:08 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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draven- - Reply to #36

so xt cant play? did they ask the teams what times was actually good for the tourney ?

Edited by draven- at 11:09 CDT, 25 May 2011

<< Comment #62 @ 11:24 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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frs - Reply to #61

i cant play for sure, there's a signup in our topic for the tournament but weekends in general are really bad for us, and we've only had 4 active members for a while now

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exelf - Reply to #32

blyad really early nahuy

<< Comment #33 @ 07:52 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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d1z :

F O X
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X

<< Comment #39 @ 08:17 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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T1E '

hope metsu (with juv+vium+zeroql+1) will make this and go to DH with the money after

disrepute/vor: sit back and enjoy the 2gd+fox show :D
btw: how about a newspost with the stream info for DH???

Edited by T1E at 08:18 CDT, 25 May 2011

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Trance - Reply to #39

patience, patience :)

<< Comment #41 @ 08:26 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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zeroql

i am very happy about this news/cup! ;DDD

<< Comment #42 @ 08:27 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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dlx

iJizzsport

<< Comment #47 @ 08:43 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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esdf '

fojjjjjjiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #50 @ 08:50 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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burgonya

manly tears

<< Comment #53 @ 09:15 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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GUArd

+1? pm!

<< Comment #56 @ 09:48 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Omni

Rather see fox playing than casting. oh well :/

<< Comment #57 @ 09:55 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Twisp.

Fox <3 hope he gets some motivation to play from casting the tourney

<< Comment #58 @ 10:11 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Anonymous (94.168.182.50)

OH MY FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AWSOOOOOOOOMEEE

<< Comment #67 @ 12:22 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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zealot

here's hoping metsu somehow pull through and end up going to DH.

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<< Comment #72 @ 14:24 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #67

mercs will take this

<< Comment #75 @ 12:54 CDT, 26 May 2011 >>

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wit - Reply to #72

Is there a team that isn't a merc team besides 4K and xt?

<< Comment #76 @ 15:39 CDT, 26 May 2011 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #75

team alpha ?

and 4K is a mercs team.

Edited by dem0n at 15:40 CDT, 26 May 2011

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kg - Reply to #76

:DDDDDD

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JCK - Reply to #76

u got merc instead of your penis... belgian fag which can`t stand loss

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<< Comment #96 @ 10:15 CDT, 2 June 2011 >>

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deka - Reply to #95

haha

<< Comment #97 @ 10:34 CDT, 2 June 2011 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #95

I sincerely hope you were drunk when you wrote this.

link1n
verb
zik
west
krysa
anakin
spartie
jocko
dk
dibbe
jibo
....

That doesn't look like the most stable lineup, that was my point. I dont even know which match you're refering with...

Which lineup of 4Kings have I recently lost to ?

Edited by dem0n at 10:51 CDT, 2 June 2011

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JCK - Reply to #97

UJELLY?

west - never played with us
anakin - inactive
jibo - went inactive
spartie - would play with us, pity that PROgaming is such serious biz
v3rb/zik - stable members till we split up

= get a good cup of STFU tea when u don`t know anything about us

btw i reffering to a 1v1 match we played long time ago. I`m not surprised u didn`t know witch one, since forget loss is not such hard thing.

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dem0n - Reply to #98

Just relax man

If you got anything against me fine, unleash your rage on me.

You didnt comment about linkin, dibbe, etc... and I was also referring to the fact that 4Kings used to be a UK lineup with Q50 part of the team etc.

The simple fact that your lineup does not look like the old 4K is enough to say you're not really '4Kings' you know. I'm implying that your lineup mostly consisted of verb, zik, krysa, dk, linkin... Contrary to us, we will be coming with the lineup we used for the past 2 tdm seasons. The fact you split up shows that DH had an impact on your lineup tho

And you don't need to go emo for that little comment of mine.

Edited by dem0n at 11:35 CDT, 2 June 2011

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JCK - Reply to #99

lol, i`m chilled don`t worry...

about linky, he played with us FEW games when fnatic did not attend leagues/tournaments, since he was able to help and were thankfull to him. Dibbe is regular member now and preparing with us on dh so dunno why u mention him (we was only 3 active players after spliting off). U forgot that me, krysa, dk are playing together since 2005... so your 2 seasons are laughably.

about 4K... old managment disappeared and new is in to take brand where it belongs, so get over with "4K was uk only blabla" shit.

btw no emo, just rage ;)

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<< Comment #101 @ 15:25 CDT, 2 June 2011 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #100

fair enough :p

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atomigo - Reply to #101

are you drunked?

<< Comment #74 @ 06:40 CDT, 26 May 2011 >>

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kg - Reply to #67

yep :(

<< Comment #68 @ 12:32 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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erok

:D:D:D

<< Comment #69 @ 12:33 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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Attyla7

SRS BOYS GONNA TAKE IT

<< Comment #73 @ 14:50 CDT, 25 May 2011 >>

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faerie_

fox <3<3<3<3<3<3

<< Comment #78 @ 16:36 CDT, 28 May 2011 >>

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draven-

should you not make it a little later so more teams can play this cup?,,,,,

<< Comment #79 @ 19:17 CDT, 28 May 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #78

It's Saturday, wtf :)

And by knowing how TDM usually runs on huuuuge delays, I agree with an early start time.

<< Comment #80 @ 00:19 CDT, 29 May 2011 >>

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draven- - Reply to #79

i do know that quite some teams cant play that early on that saturday...

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<< Comment #85 @ 11:10 CDT, 30 May 2011 >>

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twister - Reply to #80

What would you be doing early on a saturday that you can't avoid? Just curious.

<< Comment #86 @ 11:36 CDT, 30 May 2011 >>

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draven- - Reply to #85

not that it is any of your business, work..

we might aswell just give the money and hardeware to reason

Edited by draven- at 11:38 CDT, 30 May 2011

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eri - Reply to #79

nm, just another fucking spoiled kiddie thinking cups should run for his timeline.

If you want to play you adjust to the schedule, period.

<< Comment #81 @ 10:41 CDT, 30 May 2011 >>

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raw

Only 8 clans signed up so far guys, come on sort it out!!

<< Comment #82 @ 10:45 CDT, 30 May 2011 >>

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higgs

Damn, 8 teams in less than a week..
In NA we haven't reached 8 signups yet with registration open for over a month now -_-

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frs - Reply to #82

actually im quite surprised and dissapointed at the amount of teams who have signed up so far

Edited by frs at 11:05 CDT, 30 May 2011

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raw - Reply to #84

I expected quite a few more myself.

I have spoke to a couple to ask why they arent signing up and the response was "what to get raped by an EC team early on, no point" so there we have it :-(

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frs - Reply to #87

i didnt take a look at the specifics but 1 day tournies should be bo3 double bracket so teams get to play atleast a couple maps and can get a more matched game in the lower bracket if they get raped in the first game 8(

edit: seems like its double bracket, how weak from the teams who dont want to participate

Edited by frs at 00:17 CDT, 31 May 2011

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chubz - Reply to #89

here's a random scenario for you:
another 2 EC teams apply and now we have 6 EC teams and 4-5 non EC teams getting raped by bunch of mercs and xt :)

so 1 EC team drops to lower bracket and now non EC teams get raped in upper and in lower bracket, playing 1-3 matches. Team will apply more, i hope, we have to get 4 to register @ that site, which has some social network over usage issues.

doing it in two division with each own reward pool would be better., maybe even div3 teams would join up to play div1 and div2 teams.

<< Comment #88 @ 15:35 CDT, 30 May 2011 >>

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higgs - Reply to #84

well, it could be worse then! You could live in North America :x

and yea lots of people are afraid to play tdm on account of getting raped / looking silly or w.e especially if they are known to be good in other modes .. it is a shame no divisional things are ever even attempted over here.

<< Comment #83 @ 10:49 CDT, 30 May 2011 >>

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kg

Make all rounds bo3!

(except for the final)

Edited by kg at 10:50 CDT, 30 May 2011

<< Comment #93 @ 07:18 CDT, 2 June 2011 >>

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Nukm

4x Event pass tickets (200�)

give this to the best non sponsored team

<< Comment #106 @ 09:08 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Sub_ - Reply to #93

100% agreed

<< Comment #94 @ 07:19 CDT, 2 June 2011 >>

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Six16

There's my weekend sorted <3

<< Comment #102 @ 06:37 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Trance

Update!

Since fox is officially a dad as of today, he won't be able to cast this with 2GD. So the coverage will be provided by Level Up TV's Disrepute & vor

Congrats fox!

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<< Comment #104 @ 08:36 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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kg - Reply to #102

Disrepute and vor are best for TDM anyways.

<< Comment #126 @ 14:20 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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hnns - Reply to #104

Correct

<< Comment #142 @ 16:18 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Twisp. - Reply to #104

maybe but would be nice to hear a little insight from the best tdmer ever (imho) fox, he is also very easy to listen to fluent english and so on..

<< Comment #155 @ 21:19 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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incendiary - Reply to #142

not iyho, its just the fact

<< Comment #403 @ 09:13 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (212.137.36.228) - Reply to #142

..because Disrepute's and Vor's english is clearly not fluent...

<< Comment #405 @ 09:34 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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Twisp. - Reply to #403

yes their english is fluent? never said anything about it. I even think they are the best casters out there. But it still would be nice to hear fox cast.

<< Comment #105 @ 09:07 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Sub_ - Reply to #102

so why doesn't 2gd cast alone?

<< Comment #110 @ 11:19 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #105

or together with vor and disrepute?

<< Comment #112 @ 11:44 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #110

If i remember correctly, 2gd has a demeaning attitude towards vor :P

<< Comment #115 @ 12:23 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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vor_ - Reply to #112

Really?

<< Comment #123 @ 13:36 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #115

Nah, he was just having fun amongst friends

<< Comment #148 @ 16:51 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Disrepute - Reply to #123

?

<< Comment #151 @ 17:02 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #148

nwm :D

<< Comment #113 @ 12:13 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #105

He felt that it was best if vor and dis did it online together.

<< Comment #130 @ 15:06 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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faerie_ - Reply to #102

http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

...

still <3 fox.

<< Comment #103 @ 07:40 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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limity

no 2gd :(

Edited by limity at 07:41 CDT, 3 June 2011

<< Comment #107 @ 10:52 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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xou

bump

<< Comment #108 @ 10:57 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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mefajpE^

GRATZ FOX, BEST BABY EVER MADE!

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<< Comment #109 @ 11:15 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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limity

Baby spawned lol
congratz fox wish u good fatherhood! :)

<< Comment #111 @ 11:42 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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r1ddler

Congratz Fox, wish you and your family the best of luck, happiness and good fortune <3

<< Comment #114 @ 12:21 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Ffleri

http://www.jeesports.com - answer to this how shitty www site can be.

<< Comment #138 @ 15:49 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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nicerdicer - Reply to #114

nah, it is simple, just turn on your brain

<< Comment #117 @ 12:53 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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jamalz

Grats on the kid fox, your life is now officially over.

<< Comment #119 @ 13:14 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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wrong person - Reply to #117

or not over... but the other thing... the opposite one :)

<< Comment #121 @ 13:22 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #119

kids are fucking horrible, anyone can have them. People just have them cuz they don't like dogs or want to be immortal by spreading their genes down through the timeline.

Having a lil whiney bitch to take care of 24/7 sounds like the worst thing ever. Then in their teens they try to rebel after all ive done for them, then when im old they put me in a home and forget about me.

fuck that noise nigga

Edited by jamalz at 13:22 CDT, 3 June 2011

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<< Comment #122 @ 13:26 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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limity - Reply to #121

sounds like unhappy father
Edit: don't forget u were that crying kid aswell

Edited by limity at 13:27 CDT, 3 June 2011

<< Comment #124 @ 13:50 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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wrong person - Reply to #121

ye... this `special` message brought to you by big angry kid D:

<< Comment #128 @ 14:51 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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palatka - Reply to #124

angry? if im not wrong thats pure narcssism for u :D

<< Comment #129 @ 15:02 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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wrong person - Reply to #128

that too : >

<< Comment #132 @ 15:08 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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palatka - Reply to #129

well no, if he is narssitic that would simply he his idea of children, doesnt have anything to do with his mood really

<< Comment #139 @ 15:50 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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wrong person - Reply to #132

mood :)))))))))))000000 mood

<< Comment #131 @ 15:06 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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fragv - Reply to #121

rofl

<< Comment #133 @ 15:10 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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twister - Reply to #121

you are so wise jamalz

<< Comment #156 @ 22:16 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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miNd - Reply to #121

fully agree.

<< Comment #162 @ 04:17 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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KillaloT - Reply to #121

Dad you're drunk, go home.

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<< Comment #120 @ 13:18 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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4ce

GG and Empire streams: http://goodgame.ru/news.php?ocd=view&id=9963

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<< Comment #125 @ 13:55 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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ins '

GRATZ FOXXXXXXXXXX

<< Comment #127 @ 14:22 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Clau

Congratulations Fox !, I wish you and your Family all the best in this world, happiness and all good things in your future ! :)

<< Comment #134 @ 15:28 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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PURRI

I've created an account + team but now it wont let me login to edit/modify my team. I've even requested a password reset and it still does not let me log in :(

Any admin to that site that can help me, let me know. Want to sign up with my team...

<< Comment #136 @ 15:47 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #134

talk to nicerdicer in irc.

Edited by Trance at 15:50 CDT, 3 June 2011

<< Comment #137 @ 15:47 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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nicerdicer - Reply to #134

for this stuff you just need to go on #JeeSports.QL and ask admin's. I'll help to you!

<< Comment #140 @ 15:56 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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dem0n

Where can we remove our team please ?

I'm sorry but if you say its gonna be saturday 4th june from 14cet to 20cet and then you say 1 week before its gonna be 4th june 11cet to 20 cet AND THEN ONE DAY BEFORE ITS ALSO GONNE BA 5TH JUNE....

I have other shit to do....

<< Comment #141 @ 16:09 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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nicerdicer - Reply to #140

it will be 1 hour checkin to join the cup, so you can just make no checkin, if you can't play the cup. Info about 2 day's cup was from 1st day when announce appear

<< Comment #143 @ 16:19 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Akuma

Happy for you Fox :)

Shame about the coverage though.

<< Comment #144 @ 16:22 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Twisp.

I was realy looking forward to fox casting :/ anyway congratulations (asuming everything went well) :)

<< Comment #145 @ 16:37 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Gladius

wp fox & trito

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<< Comment #146 @ 16:45 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Mellow

At fox's child's wedding, they should play "The Last Ice Climber".

Congratulations!

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<< Comment #147 @ 16:50 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Disrepute

Congratulations fox.

<< Comment #149 @ 16:53 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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horf

Congratulations trito and fox :)

<< Comment #150 @ 17:00 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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0x5f3759df

WTG fox! Inspiration for every gamer to meet a gamer girl and make babies!

<< Comment #152 @ 18:14 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #150

*gaming babies!

<< Comment #153 @ 20:03 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (95.20.255.103)

Is it a boy or a girl? Name? A new genious has born.

<< Comment #154 @ 20:42 CDT, 3 June 2011 >>

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fur*q

I heard Trito wasn't so good at timing.

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<< Comment #161 @ 03:19 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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By $\0/$ fragerr

VODAS ASAP

<< Comment #157 @ 02:19 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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EddieF4

Aww can't 2gd jump on with disrepute and vor or is he going to see baby as well?

<< Comment #159 @ 02:34 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Dird - Reply to #157

he's the father...don't tell fox

<< Comment #158 @ 02:27 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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GEKKO-

Congratulations on the newly spawned mini fox!

<< Comment #160 @ 02:35 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

First the baby, then menopause. I'm not sure which is worse... 6 years of PMS or a baby.

Maybe the British failed at dentistry, but the nanny thing kind of makes sense.

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<< Comment #163 @ 05:25 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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stunt.us

when does dreamhack start? july something?

<< Comment #164 @ 05:29 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #163

18 June

<< Comment #165 @ 05:29 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #163

in 2 weeks

<< Comment #170 @ 06:40 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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stunt.us - Reply to #165

oh ty. whats this post about then?

<< Comment #171 @ 06:46 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #170

* Prizes

Only for first place:

- 4x Event pass tickets (200�) + Spot in QL TDM tournament

<< Comment #166 @ 05:35 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Torzelan '

mega gratz @ fox & trito!

looking forward to some dis & vor casted tdm, all good $$

<< Comment #167 @ 05:50 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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ischju

weather is too good to watch tdm

<< Comment #168 @ 06:02 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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limity - Reply to #167

vods :)

<< Comment #177 @ 07:15 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #167

sitting in my parents garden, feet in some cold water, ... perfect weather for some tdm ;)

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<< Comment #169 @ 06:40 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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uaShadow

http://cyberfight.ru/site/news/78462/ - c58 stream

Edited by uaShadow at 06:40 CDT, 4 June 2011

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<< Comment #172 @ 06:52 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Trance

Level Up will run 3 streams for this cup.

Stream #1 (720p, 45 fps, 2.5 mb/s): www.justin.tv/leveluptv - casting by Disrepute & vor

Stream #2 (720p, 60 fps, 3 mb/s): www.justin.tv/leveluptv2 - no casting

Stream #3 (720p, 30 fps, 2 mb/s): www.justin.tv/leveluptv3 - no casting

Waiting for feedback on routing from those of you who had issues in the past watching our streams at any quality.

Edited by Trance at 07:13 CDT, 4 June 2011

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<< Comment #174 @ 07:05 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Ryan2015 - Reply to #172

Stream 1 seems fine add when theres a game going

love the tune tho ^^

<< Comment #175 @ 07:08 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Sub_ - Reply to #172

I'd imagine more people will watch with casting, why not have the 60fps on that channel then?

<< Comment #176 @ 07:14 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #175

coz Disrepute cannot into 60 fps :)

<< Comment #178 @ 07:18 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Sub_ - Reply to #176

I see, thanks

<< Comment #181 @ 07:30 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Dynamix - Reply to #172

Streams are all working great this time :)

<< Comment #184 @ 07:50 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #172

Getting tuns of buffering at all resolutions :(

<< Comment #187 @ 08:08 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #184

can you please iM me your isp name, country and conn details? Also apparently reloading the stream 20+ times might get you a good route.

Edited by Trance at 08:09 CDT, 4 June 2011

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Six16 - Reply to #187

Sent.

Also tried different browsers and video resolutions.

Edited by Six16 at 08:22 CDT, 4 June 2011

<< Comment #215 @ 10:14 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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xoji - Reply to #190

It is a routing problem to justin.tv for us euros. You can get lucky but it's an annoyance to have to constantly refresh to find a decent path.

<< Comment #232 @ 11:33 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #215

I tried refreshing, probably 40 times, never found a good path :(

Watching the Russian stream now. own3d is nice <3.

<< Comment #191 @ 08:25 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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InDepther - Reply to #187

I have problems too

I think this will ruin dh too for many specs :(((

<< Comment #234 @ 11:35 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #187

Any chance someone with a good connection to JTV to re-stream the games via own3d? it would be nice to have an alternative when Dreamhack starts.

<< Comment #185 @ 07:56 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #172

what would QL do without trance :)

<< Comment #222 @ 10:24 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #172

please get rid of the unremovable ads.

other than that, the streams are perfect.

<< Comment #223 @ 10:25 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #222

can you iM me a screenshot of that? Need to show it to JTV.

<< Comment #179 @ 07:23 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Twisp.

Have reason dropped out? brackets says 1 - 0 to tbd

<< Comment #180 @ 07:27 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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limity

why avek isn't playing with srs

<< Comment #183 @ 07:48 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Ffleri - Reply to #180

o.O why u think this? Link?

<< Comment #203 @ 09:14 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (83.9.196.76)

To lvl^ guys:
Could you do some stream for ppl who have connection around 1mb ? Especially for Dreamhack.

<< Comment #204 @ 09:15 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #203

you can select the quality in the control bar on the bottom
go down to 480p or even 360 and you should be fine

<< Comment #206 @ 09:38 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #203

240p should be around 900 kb/s.

<< Comment #182 @ 07:42 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Kyto

X E N T O R I U M
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N
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M

<< Comment #186 @ 08:00 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Nukm

xt 193:178 2k2, almost :D
gj guys (and our lovely aCt merc)
purri with 69/29 saved the day for them

edit: just wanted to check for the other results but on the site there are no scores/maps :/

Edited by Nukm at 08:04 CDT, 4 June 2011

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<< Comment #201 @ 08:59 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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d1z : - Reply to #186

cerb & goodaa ftw! :)

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<< Comment #188 @ 08:09 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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jamalz

seems like disrepute or vor fixed their mic, used to be grainy as fuck and very shitty. They do cast harmoniously and they are very informative but i still can't stand their accents.

fuck

<< Comment #202 @ 09:14 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (83.18.40.154) - Reply to #188

Did you hear ever deus co-casting, then? xD

<< Comment #213 @ 10:12 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Magician - Reply to #202

scottish accent is the most awesome english accent in the world

<< Comment #214 @ 10:14 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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kg - Reply to #213

Doesn't mean I can understand what he's saying.

<< Comment #189 @ 08:15 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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ischju - Reply to #188

what accent can you stand then? moppz'?

Edited by ischju at 08:15 CDT, 4 June 2011

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Nukm

"cu at lan"
:D

but crazy how srs hit a direct nade at almost every quad colwn had

Edited by Nukm at 08:33 CDT, 4 June 2011

<< Comment #193 @ 08:38 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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DamianLillard

so whats the deal with fnatic players (strenx,spartie,linkje,stermy) scattered all over and not playing as a single team?

<< Comment #196 @ 08:44 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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duumed - Reply to #193

linkin and stermy aren't in fnatic anymore

<< Comment #197 @ 08:48 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #193

the fnatic zombie tdm squad disbanded
and imho that was not a bad thing to happen

Edited by Nukm at 08:56 CDT, 4 June 2011

<< Comment #198 @ 08:52 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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DamianLillard - Reply to #197

anyone know why?
"for good" or "that's good"?

<< Comment #199 @ 08:55 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #198

oh yeah i meant that i was a good thing

not sure about details but i asked stermy that exact question for the upcoming coman interview ;)

<< Comment #194 @ 08:38 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Jalle

Is it just me or isn't the framerate really high on lvlup? The stream looks so smooth!

<< Comment #195 @ 08:41 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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palatka - Reply to #194

Stream #1 (720p, 45 fps, 2.5 mb/s): www.justin.tv/leveluptv - casting by Disrepute & vor

Stream #2 (720p, 60 fps, 3 mb/s): www.justin.tv/leveluptv2 - no casting

Stream #3 (720p, 30 fps, 2 mb/s): www.justin.tv/leveluptv3 - no casting

//Trance

<< Comment #200 @ 08:59 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Jalle - Reply to #195

That's quality right there! Damn.

<< Comment #210 @ 10:07 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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palatka - Reply to #200

indeed it is |-]

<< Comment #207 @ 09:43 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (94.168.182.50)

tox fucking beast omfg

<< Comment #205 @ 09:24 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Nukm

shame the official brackets only show those 1:0 results and no scores/maps, good thing we got the ql profiles :)

wb r1

metsu 1:0 exhausted - purga 225:62
ta 1:0 rebels - dm20 232:152
srs 1:0 doctors - dm14 151:75
colwn 1:0 prout - ospdm5 208:71
xt 1:0 2k2 - dm20 193:178
en3my 1:0 ek - purga 153:137

wb r2

metsu 1:0 ta - dreadful 160:113
colwn 1:0 srs - ospdm5 122:109
4k 1:0 xt - ospdm5 141:118
reason 1:0 en3my - purga 156:90

lb r1

doctors 1:0 prout - ospdm5 154:109

lb r2

srs 1:0 doctors - ospdm5 168:136
xt 1:0 2k2 - purga 157:93
ta 1:0 rebels - purga 159:111
en3my 1:0 ek - dm14 150:122

wb semi final

reason 2:0 4k - cpm4 154:138, interv 145:137
metsu 2:1 cown - dm14 96:174, dreadful 185:156, purga 159:139

lb r3

ta 1:0 srs - dm20 186:181
xt 1:0 en3my - purga 156:114

lb r4

4k 1:0 xt - ospdm5 122:121
colwn 1:0 ta - purga 191:115

lb semi final

colwn 1:0 4k (played with a sub) - dm14 196:103

wb final

reason 2:0 metsu - dm20 200:158, dreadful 168:140

lb final

colwn 2:0 metsu - dm14 93:79, purga 162:155

grand final

reason 3:2 cowln - wb 1:0, dreadful 177:172, cpm4 157:184, purga 127:193, dm14 139:114

Edited by Nukm at 16:02 CDT, 5 June 2011

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<< Comment #248 @ 14:26 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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TheWalker - Reply to #205

Thank you!

<< Comment #208 @ 10:02 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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ffx

strenx>toxjq

:D

<< Comment #209 @ 10:03 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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palatka - Reply to #208

link1n*

<< Comment #211 @ 10:10 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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tourist

seriously winz, they changed the name of the team to CLOWN because of you. just quit already.

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<< Comment #212 @ 10:11 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #211

they shoulda got strenx instead..

stermy
strenx
linkin
toxjq

= aimsuperwhores

<< Comment #216 @ 10:16 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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eh - Reply to #212

Their team is already unbalanced, don't need another "one-man-show" duel hero. Maybe get bab instead :)

<< Comment #220 @ 10:20 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Twisp. - Reply to #216

nah linkje, toxjq and stermy is very good teamplayers aswell. Dont know about winz really, havent seen enough of him.

<< Comment #221 @ 10:21 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #216

wtf? the only "one-man-hero" is linkin. See e.g. the dm14 game against metsu.

tox = team player / dmg output
stermy / winz = position / aim

I'd say they aren't unbalanced at all.

<< Comment #224 @ 10:29 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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eh - Reply to #221

wtf? the only "one-man-hero" is linkin.

idd, and one is enough per team imo.

stermy / winz = position / aim

Their aim is excellent, but compared to "real" tdm players like zeroql, zyv or bab their positioning doesn't seem top notch. Though I got to admit I haven't watched them playing tdm very much.

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scowl - Reply to #224

I rather meant "they are supposed to hold and defend a certain position on the map by using their aim"

<< Comment #231 @ 11:27 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (83.18.40.154) - Reply to #221

tox is a tdm machine. Needs an operator.
Best tox' operator was fox

<< Comment #217 @ 10:16 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Twisp. - Reply to #212

no plz.. strenx is a horrible teamplayer, he is ofc very good individually but from what i can see it doesnt look to smooth teamplaywise..

<< Comment #218 @ 10:17 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (83.18.40.154)

What was that drama all about?

<< Comment #249 @ 14:40 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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wrong person - Reply to #218

you know how kids express their love, like in school boys are pulling girls pigtails, so... strenx and winz just can not manage to tell how they love each other in a normal way.

<< Comment #219 @ 10:19 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Nukm

the lb is shit btw, teams meeting each other again instantly :/

<< Comment #226 @ 10:34 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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nicerdicer - Reply to #219

yes, little problem with only 2nd lower bracket's round

<< Comment #227 @ 10:35 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #219

yeah incredibly dull :p

<< Comment #439 @ 16:21 CDT, 27 June 2011 >>

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Liam - Reply to #227

I miss you :/

<< Comment #440 @ 09:45 CDT, 16 July 2011 >>

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funnyb - Reply to #439

i missed you too good buddy

<< Comment #441 @ 14:24 CDT, 16 July 2011 >>

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Liam - Reply to #440

Glad you're back! But also a little sad as now I owe money

<< Comment #225 @ 10:32 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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fragv

vods?? i couldn't watch the matches! :(

<< Comment #228 @ 10:35 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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eh - Reply to #225

should be placed there every 2 hours automatically: http://www.justin.tv/leveluptv/videos

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<< Comment #238 @ 11:53 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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fragv - Reply to #228

ty

<< Comment #230 @ 11:21 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Nukm

crazy deep inside match to close this entertaining day, thanks to everyone involved. looking forward to tomorrow

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<< Comment #233 @ 11:35 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #230

4K vs colwn now. :D

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<< Comment #235 @ 11:38 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #233

wait what?
wow thanks for this reply, would have missed it

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n1ghty - Reply to #235

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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Nukm - Reply to #263

? :s

<< Comment #293 @ 13:49 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #264

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

<< Comment #237 @ 11:53 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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fragv - Reply to #233

omg thnx

<< Comment #236 @ 11:51 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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wrong person

in the light of today's drama i deeply want to dedicate this to winz , strenx and other haters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgXter8uYGw

<< Comment #239 @ 12:22 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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EddieF4

What's up with LB semis being bo1?

<< Comment #240 @ 12:25 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Yellack

Some of these games pwned so bad!
DH ftw \o/

<< Comment #241 @ 12:28 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Drexciyian

Who plays for colwin?

<< Comment #244 @ 12:33 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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duumed - Reply to #241

toxic linkin winz stermy

<< Comment #242 @ 12:31 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Trance

VODs popping up as we speak:

www.justin.tv/leveluptv/videos

www.justin.tv/leveluptv2/videos

www.justin.tv/leveluptv3/videos

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<< Comment #243 @ 12:32 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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caesar_

Demos please.

<< Comment #245 @ 12:46 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

The Great White Shark is racist. Not the shark itself, just the name. It's mostly greyish, so why is it called white? I'll tell you why, because the white people who discovered it wanted to make whiteness seem badass. They wanted the shark to symbolize white power (fucking nazi's).

Anyway, looking to be a great tournament. Maybe I can watch it through my 3DS. Do you suppose there would need to be special software for that, or will the video-image be appropriately formatted regardless?

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<< Comment #247 @ 13:19 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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raw

gg's en3my.

Its a bit of a shame that we only got to play the same team twice however.

I think the brackets need fixing so that people who move in to the lb in first round don't then end up meeting the same opponent a little further in, it happened to pretty much all the teams.

<< Comment #250 @ 18:52 CDT, 4 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (87.152.172.85)

yeah that true, raw. this was just admin fail. i mean how hard is to make a decent double elimination tourney tree?

<< Comment #252 @ 01:26 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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calleking - Reply to #250

harder then replying to the right comment :/

Edited by vanne at 01:27 CDT, 5 June 2011

<< Comment #251 @ 01:03 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

Wait a second... this isn't Dreamhack, it's jeesports dreamhack or something like that. When exactly does the actual Dreamhack tournament start?

<< Comment #255 @ 02:48 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Attyla7 - Reply to #251

u r dumb and cant read :<

<< Comment #268 @ 06:28 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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calleking - Reply to #255

How is he supposed to read that? You're quite the genius :-)

<< Comment #292 @ 13:49 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #268

show how smart u r in school, oh wait

<< Comment #349 @ 16:46 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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calleking - Reply to #292

I already graduated from University.

I think we all deserve to know if a squint-eyed forum troll like you has ever seen a school?

<< Comment #350 @ 16:50 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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calleking - Reply to #349

(or just your nose tip)

<< Comment #253 @ 01:42 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Shardik

Great coverage and the stream in perfect. Good job guys.

<< Comment #254 @ 02:11 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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dlx

pure jizzsport :)

<< Comment #256 @ 02:59 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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incendiary

so today's matches will start much later than yesterday's?

<< Comment #260 @ 03:48 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #256

yes
does make sense, doesnt it? only 3 matches and i guess they dont wanna overlap with zotac

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incendiary - Reply to #260

or french open

<< Comment #257 @ 03:04 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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pharrow

too bad this justin.tv stream keeps lagging. Will watch the vods though

<< Comment #259 @ 03:38 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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scowl - Reply to #257

tried changing the quality setting?

<< Comment #258 @ 03:22 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Torzelan '

Rare positive justin.tv comment at least: 45 FPS @ 360p looked great (clean walls ftw, btw) and ran silky smooth on my netbook that reaaally struggled with anything own3d. $

Blows that 480p and up is completely unwatchable for so many of us when there's all that quality available though. :(

<< Comment #261 @ 03:49 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Nukm

fixture for the upper bracket final: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2088764

<< Comment #262 @ 04:30 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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tony

streams were perfect
high quality and speed,yes sometimes had some freeze for 2 seconds,just lower the quality and it will be better

Edited by tony at 04:30 CDT, 5 June 2011

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Nukm - Reply to #262

just lower the quality and it will be better

a lot of people have problems with the routing of justing, those people have the same lags with 240p that they have with 720p. for me it seems like it got fixed (thanks to trance who is trying his best to work out the issues with justin), but i feel sad for those who are unlucky and can do nothing about it

<< Comment #272 @ 06:59 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #265

More and more ISPs have been fixed. And I'm still working to get the remaining ones with issues fixed.

So, anyone who can't even watch the streams at the lowest quality setting, message me your country, ISP name and connection details and I will fix it for you.

<< Comment #275 @ 07:56 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (193.35.132.55)

Where can I see the teamlists?

<< Comment #276 @ 08:21 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #275

click the link in the newspost??

<< Comment #283 @ 12:54 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #276

did you try it yourself? it wants me to singup to see some info, so fuck that shit

<< Comment #284 @ 13:01 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #283

yeah you need an ac to watch the team rosters, that site is really weird

anyway most teams are signed up for dh so just check the dh attending list news here on esr

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T1E ' - Reply to #283

colwn = tox, stermy, linkje, winz
reason = noctis, zyv, fazz, deus
metsu = vium, zeroql, bab, strenx, (juvenile)

who do you want to know else?

<< Comment #305 @ 14:13 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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dlx - Reply to #298

juvenile wont go to lan, guess why

<< Comment #307 @ 14:22 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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d1z : - Reply to #305

he will.

<< Comment #364 @ 03:31 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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cha0z_ - Reply to #305

Most likely he will.

<< Comment #266 @ 05:53 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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stripy

was away for the last few days. Can some1 plz recommend me the top 2-3 games so far?

<< Comment #274 @ 07:56 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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m1ggan - Reply to #266

colwn - srs

<< Comment #267 @ 06:19 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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vor_ - Reply to #266

metsu vs colwn.
srs vs colwn.
4K vs xt.
srs vs TA.

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<< Comment #270 @ 06:50 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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caesar_ - Reply to #267

good insights into the game thx

<< Comment #271 @ 06:58 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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twister - Reply to #267

would not recommend srs vs TA game :D
srs not playing with main lineup, all players lagging, lots of pauses.

<< Comment #273 @ 07:46 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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vor_ - Reply to #271

Yeah, that slightly taints it, but the last 5 mins or so was actually pretty good.

<< Comment #277 @ 10:25 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Erudite

When do games start today?

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Trance - Reply to #277

19:00 CEST

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<< Comment #291 @ 13:49 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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By $\0/$ fragerr - Reply to #278

no real life today? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

<< Comment #279 @ 11:46 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #277

really?

Edited by Nukm at 11:47 CDT, 5 June 2011

<< Comment #280 @ 12:22 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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kK_Storm - Reply to #279

C'mon, he's not supposed to be any kind of an erudite...

<< Comment #281 @ 12:50 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (74.56.157.101)

wow epic quad run by noctis, rofl.

<< Comment #282 @ 12:54 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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DamianLillard

Can you just please let it show the warm up instead of black still image? Anything is better than black screen, except maybe for german porn

<< Comment #285 @ 13:06 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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aRidion

lol @ grand final without advantage for the winner of the WB....wtf are they thinking ??

<< Comment #299 @ 14:01 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #285

~~it's 2 bo3s~~

apparently it's bo5 with one map advantage ..

Edited by T1E at 14:07 CDT, 5 June 2011

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Nukm - Reply to #299

earlier they said on stream that the winner wouldnt have an advantage
but i am glad they do it this way now

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T1E ' - Reply to #302

yeah and noctis then said on irc that they'd do "2 bo3s", but just b4 the match startet they said bo5 with 1 match advantage

that's not my favourite rule but we had that discussion a number of times :D

<< Comment #286 @ 13:14 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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atomigo

stream is lagging :(

<< Comment #288 @ 13:37 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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crea* ' - Reply to #286

even the vods are lagging and won't buffer lol

<< Comment #290 @ 13:49 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (83.18.40.154)

Ok, we have top3: colwn, metsu, reason.
Bu there is also 4k and srs.
And two dream teams not played: moscow and ufx

Fuck, Dreamhack will be so great!

<< Comment #296 @ 13:56 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #290

dont forget about ta
dh will be sick indeed, so many teams that can beat each other

<< Comment #310 @ 14:38 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (83.18.40.154) - Reply to #296

I don't think so, but I hope TA and xt and someone else prove me wrong and give us great matches.

<< Comment #314 @ 14:47 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #310

well i wouldnt call them the favorites or anything but you gotta give them some credit for beating 4k, metsu, fline and xt in competitions

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Anonymous (83.18.40.154) - Reply to #314

Bigger problem is that, that all my favourite players are spreaded through so many teams.
Even now i cheer for zyv ad tox.

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<< Comment #297 @ 13:56 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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aRidion - Reply to #290

[img]http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1352/5170679340_ee96d31728.jpg[/img]

<< Comment #300 @ 14:06 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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palatka - Reply to #297

explain urself

<< Comment #337 @ 16:01 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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twister - Reply to #290

In the few games dignitas played together they looked really strong aswell.

<< Comment #287 @ 13:23 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Nukm

haha nvc out of the blue
"if i may, nobody should let bab get a powerup"
:D

<< Comment #289 @ 13:42 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Carillo

vor and disrepute, WATCH OUT FOR THE DOUBLE PARROTS

<< Comment #294 @ 13:52 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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vor_ - Reply to #289

Yeah. :(

<< Comment #295 @ 13:54 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Infuscomus

l1nkje \o/

<< Comment #301 @ 14:07 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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pface

link to empire tv?

<< Comment #303 @ 14:10 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #301

check goodgame.ru or bloodywarriors.com for alerrnative streams

Edited by Nukm at 14:11 CDT, 5 June 2011

<< Comment #304 @ 14:12 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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pface - Reply to #303

thnx man :))))

<< Comment #306 @ 14:20 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Carillo

I've been spraying more than I dare tell my lady, and it's still only online tournament!

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<< Comment #308 @ 14:26 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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tourist

what a shit stream, seriously.

<< Comment #311 @ 14:38 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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d1z : - Reply to #308

more like:
what a shit internet connection you got, seriously.

<< Comment #313 @ 14:44 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #311

Nothing to do with connection. It's the routing. Usually the lvl^ JTV is fine for me but it's been jerky and screenshotty all of this event. I'm watching both the MLG streams open with no lag at all (though you'd expect that from a satellite). It's just the JTV routing apparently

<< Comment #362 @ 02:51 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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dansen - Reply to #313

satellite?

<< Comment #315 @ 14:51 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #308

who cares about the stream, awesome games ongoing!

<< Comment #317 @ 15:10 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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moppz - Reply to #308

www.bloodywarriors.com works fine!

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<< Comment #363 @ 02:52 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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dansen - Reply to #317

plz stop hitting your say-binds midgame

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<< Comment #368 @ 04:52 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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moppz - Reply to #363

i think over it ;)

have u seen this: http://derquaker.spreadshirt.de/ ^^

<< Comment #369 @ 05:31 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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erzwo - Reply to #368

uhhh nice! :D

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<< Comment #390 @ 08:12 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #368

i saw someone with an ESL bag last week at the trainstation, felt... weird :p

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<< Comment #394 @ 08:29 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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moppz - Reply to #390

esl is ok.. but derquaker.com? Best!

<< Comment #395 @ 08:43 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #394

hm, ...hm. :D

<< Comment #309 @ 14:38 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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moppz

www.bloodywarriors.com Stream online...

First vods online on www.derquaker.com/vods

Final Reason vs Colwn

First Map: http://www.derquaker.com/vods/?page=&vod=4310

Second Map: http://www.derquaker.com/vods/?page=&vod=4315

Third Map: http://www.derquaker.com/vods/?page=&vod=4319

Fourth Map: http://www.derquaker.com/vods/?page=&vod=4320

Metsu vs Colwn:

http://www.derquaker.com/vods/?page=&vod=4307

Reason vs Metsu:

http://www.derquaker.com/vods/?page=&vod=4305

Edited by mOPPz.oO(BW) at 17:48 CDT, 5 June 2011

<< Comment #312 @ 14:42 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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pface - Reply to #309

thnx for derquaker link, i�ve been looking for that :)

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<< Comment #316 @ 15:05 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Omni

oh how i miss gtv.....

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<< Comment #318 @ 15:11 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #316

Others too, but like one policeman from Malm� put it - "Vad kan man g�ra?"

<< Comment #321 @ 15:36 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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r1ddler

these 2 days of tdm have been awesome,..top notch tdm :) shame juve was missing for metsu tho, those guys have a chance , especially on new maps they can take anyone

<< Comment #322 @ 15:39 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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jamalz

i wasn't even that excited for tdm, but after watching this shit + vor and disrepute casting (after tuning out their horrid accents) i have really jizz'd hard from this tournament. vor knows his tdm shit, and disrepute is ok..

The TDM dreamhack tournament + russian/usa teams will make me need an transfusion of liquids from jizzing so hard.

very nice shit lvlup and jeesports.

(stream is perfect, 480p for me since my pc is shit)

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<< Comment #346 @ 16:33 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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calleking - Reply to #322

I found it quite refreshing to watch some TDM aswell. Well said!

you fag.

<< Comment #323 @ 15:39 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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c1

I thought it was supposed to be LAN... 30-35 ping lol

<< Comment #347 @ 16:41 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Jalle - Reply to #323

The DreamHack QL TDM Cup by JeeSports is an online TDM cup organized by JeeSports in partnership with DreamHack, Medion and Plantronics, and will serve as a qualifier for the DreamHack Medion Championship (QL TDM).

Edited by Jalle at 16:41 CDT, 5 June 2011

<< Comment #324 @ 15:45 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Carillo

wtf who the hell is "tox" ?!?!?!
He did some awesome fragging in grim dungeons!

<< Comment #326 @ 15:51 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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caesar_ - Reply to #324

tox is ic-toxic lol

<< Comment #328 @ 15:56 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #326

wtf, really ? how could it be???

On a serious note, dungeons will always be won german style. Ask SK.

Edit :
Just don't ask the Vikings.

Edited by Carillo at 15:57 CDT, 5 June 2011

<< Comment #343 @ 16:12 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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caesar_ - Reply to #328

he has been playing again, it is him. going to dreamhack too

<< Comment #344 @ 16:30 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Carillo - Reply to #343

Which IRC channel is he from? I won 7 CS cups online. His aim looks nearly as good as mine.

<< Comment #348 @ 16:42 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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caesar_ - Reply to #344

dont know try #jeesports.ql

<< Comment #353 @ 16:58 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Trance - Reply to #348

think you're being trolled hard :)

<< Comment #356 @ 17:11 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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caesar_ - Reply to #353

I guessed with the second part, but thought first might be genuine q. :F

<< Comment #325 @ 15:47 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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limity

watching this tdm inspires me to drop playing duel and go play tdm.
But not fun play in publics or play without a team :(

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<< Comment #331 @ 15:57 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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duumed - Reply to #325

#tdmpickup in quakenet!

<< Comment #332 @ 15:57 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #325

then dont
#tdmpickup or just ask around, lot of people getting teams started

<< Comment #342 @ 16:06 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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h3rb - Reply to #325

Yes, i always feel the same. But I'm too bad for the pickup channel that keeps me off from playing more tdm. :)

Edited by h3rb at 16:08 CDT, 5 June 2011

<< Comment #327 @ 15:52 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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caesar_

wtf wouldnt have bet on metsu if i knew they werent gonna have juvenile :/

<< Comment #329 @ 15:57 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Nukm

reason \o/

<< Comment #330 @ 15:57 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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adrenal1ne

cu on lan

<< Comment #338 @ 16:03 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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ipx! - Reply to #330

that was lol

<< Comment #333 @ 15:58 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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DamianLillard

unlike so often over the course of human history, reason won

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<< Comment #334 @ 15:59 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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nawak

very very nice tourney
waiting for lan
its goonnaaaaaaaaa beeeeeee epppppppiccccccccccccc

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Carillo

Thanks Disrepute and Vor, was fun!

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raw

Well done Reason, cant think of a more deserving team to win the final :-D

And epic coverage from LVL as usual!

Edited by raw at 16:01 CDT, 5 June 2011

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h3rb

Great final game. Missed the others so i hope vods will be available soon. And as always a great casting by Disrepute and Vor. Hope Vor can do some casts at DH too. This would be really awesome!

<< Comment #340 @ 16:04 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Torzelan '

damn it's nice with some real tdm action

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tifu

oh man, after this i think universe might collapse out of awesomness of dreamhack tdm
...and i'll be watching it on lvl :)

<< Comment #345 @ 16:31 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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GUArd

I enjoyed it more then last few zotac duel finals! That means much for tdm! :D nice games guys!

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kg

wb 1:0 is fucking shit, noctis gtfo

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daka ' - Reply to #351

i agree, but anyway that was one awesome final!

although i wanted colwn to win but GG nonetheless

PS Tox is a beast! :)

Edited by daka at 17:03 CDT, 5 June 2011

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Trance - Reply to #351

It actually favors the team from LB. If it was a 2xbo3 the LB team would have had to win 4 maps. In a bo5 version they only need to win 3 maps.

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kg - Reply to #355

bo5 no additional rules

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Trance - Reply to #357

you should reward the team from WB a little imo.

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kg - Reply to #358

The team from LB had to play an additional game.

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Dird - Reply to #357

if thats the case then theres no need for LB...there wasnt anyways since theres only a prize for 1st (ordering 2-8th isnt important)...should have just been SE with BO3 throughout until the finals

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kg - Reply to #359

We'd have a lot more maps played, which would be nice. On the other hand, here we got to see multiple matchups. Should've been BO3 from round 2, or something.

I still think playing another match is punishment enough for the team coming from the loser bracket. The final should be played between the two best teams and certainly there shouldn't be a possibility of it finishing after 2 maps (i.e. 1:0 -> 3:0).

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Dird - Reply to #371

not really punishment & just means the losing team stays warm while the winners spend 1 hour~ with their aim/teamwork going cold

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kg - Reply to #373

Or it means the WB winner can rest a bit before the big game. These types of arguments are silly.

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Dird - Reply to #377

as is whining about 1-0...the point is to give an advantage to the winner...2*BO5 is too much so 1-0 is best

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kg - Reply to #380

and that allows for a 2:0 grand final.

why am i getting trolled the whole time? :@

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noctis - Reply to #371

so the team from the loserbracket is allowed to lose once but the team from the winnerbracket isnt?
sounds fair

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kg - Reply to #374

The amount of matches one team needs to win stays the same. Why should not losing take preference over amount of matches won?

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noctis - Reply to #375

cause it would remove the whole point of Double Elimination, you have to lose twice to be out, the name of the system says it itself

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kg - Reply to #376

Let me sum up my thoughts regarding DE:

1) It allows us to see more matchups than SE, which is interesting if we have a similarly skilled playerbase.

2) It gets the best two teams to the finals and allows them to duke it out on even ground.

3) It certainly should not allow for 2:0 grand finals.

All in all, I think DE should cater to the audience which wants to see different matchups and wants the tourney to end in a satisfying grand final.

As Dird said, this argumentation loses some steam if only the first spot gets the prize (from the POV of the players, at least). I, as a spectator, still want to see different matchups and a nice grand final.

e: hope i'm making sense, really fuckin tired

Edited by kg at 07:07 CDT, 6 June 2011

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noctis - Reply to #379

All in all, I think DE should cater to the audience which wants to see different matchups and wants the tourney to end in a satisfying grand final.

Thats the problem with DE tho, most of the time it doesn't end in a satisfying grand final unless you change DE to become unfair towards the team coming from the WB final (using bo5 with 1-0 up is already a huge improvement for the excitement over the boresome 2xbo3 where you might see the same 3 maps twice in a row).
Thats probably also one of the reasons as to why you don't see DE in any of the major sports (next to ppl not being able to grasp DE).

So anyway, your reasoning is basically "fuck the players, cater to the specs" while mine as a player is obviously the other way around. ;)

Edited by noctis at 07:29 CDT, 6 June 2011

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duumed - Reply to #382

How about 2xbo3 and in the second bo3 (if needed) the first two maps have to be from those eliminated in the first bo3?

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noctis - Reply to #383

would certainly mix things up ^^

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kg - Reply to #383

Should be pick / pick anyways unless it's BO1. :@

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kg - Reply to #382

Unfair really is relative. I don't see why it's necessary for the WB winner to get 1:0 in maps from the start. An additional BO3 to play after a day of gaming could be a lot. Maybe letting WB winners pick 3 out of 5 maps played would be enough?

Wonder if it's possible to salvage the DE concept and get to something with a nice final. Not even talking about the fairness (which is impossible to achieve anyways :ASD), but ruling out the 2:0 scenario.

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noctis - Reply to #384

It's not necessary to have the wb team be 1-0 up, it's necessary to give them smth in return for not being able to lose once like the other team did tho. I don't see how letting them pick maps would compensate for smth as huge as "getting a second chance after having lost" :)

Not even talking about the fairness (which is impossible to achieve anyways :ASD)

SE is fair :P

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kg - Reply to #387

It is fair in the way that when two players (teams) meet they always have a level playing field. Not really in the sense that the best team overall always wins.

Really no answer to this DE problem, at least we got to see good matches. :p

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zealot - Reply to #387

i so hope this is going to bite you in the ass one day 'cos yeah sure, having to play rapha/cypher/avek in round 1 or 2 is perfectly reasonable and "fair" :p

hey, i'd even argue that with the current pay-out structure meeting one of them in quarter's/semi's can feel pretty fucked up aswell.

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noctis - Reply to #389

I don't play duel anymore (which is besides the point, i know) but i'd still not see how it wouldn't be fair. I might be annoyed that i got an unlucky/harder bracket but i can't say its unfair. :)

edit: maybe if you were aiming for a 5th-8th finish or smth you would get angry but who really does that

Edited by noctis at 08:23 CDT, 6 June 2011

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kg - Reply to #392

So if you are aiming for top3 and get taken down by top1 in the first round, you wouldn't be annoyed? :p

Edited by kg at 08:44 CDT, 6 June 2011

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noctis - Reply to #396

I might be annoyed that i got an unlucky/harder bracket but i can't say its unfair.

huh?:P
And i would either aim for the win or take every game as it comes without a certain goal in mind and not aim for top3 or 5-8th or whatever as in the end, its usually just the first place that ppl remember anyway :)

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T1E ' - Reply to #397

it's not duel 1v1 after all, right?

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noctis - Reply to #428

i have no idea what you just said

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Nukm - Reply to #392

I might be annoyed that i got an unlucky/harder bracket but i can't say its unfair. :)

well the question is how you define fairness then. to me, being the second best player at an event and getting knocked out first round isnt fair. but sure its fair in a sense that its win or out for everyone in every game

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noctis - Reply to #398

Yeah of course, its fair in the sense that the best player wins the tournament, its not there to create a realistic ranking from 2-8 :)

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kg - Reply to #399

Not necessarily. A good player might be vulnerable to a certain playstyle (which in the end does not succeed against different opponents). See rapha vs stermy (iirc).

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noctis - Reply to #401

But i wouldn't wanna diminish someones achievement of winning a tournament just cause someone else who might be able to beat him got knocked out by a guy he couldnt handle the playstyle off. Which thinking like this would pretty much do. The tournament winner has to overcome every opposition he faces, doesn't matter which.

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kg - Reply to #404

You can construct an example. Take 8 players. One of them wins easily wins vs six, loses vs one. His stats are 6:1. Other players are all 4:3 (three of them), 3:4 (another three) and the one who wins vs rapha is at 1:6. If they played 28 matches (each vs each), you can easily see who is the best player. Yet when our rapha gets grouped with our stermy (sorry 1:6) in the first round, he'll go out easily and a inferior player will take the win.

1 wins vs: 2 3 4 5 6 7
2 wins vs: 3 4 5 8
3 wins vs: 4 5 6 8
4 wins vs: 5 6 7 8
5 wins vs: 6 7 8
6 wins vs: 7 8 2
7 wins vs: 8 2 3
8 wins vs: 1

Edited by kg at 09:48 CDT, 6 June 2011

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noctis - Reply to #406

Hence why the only fair system is everyone plays everyone (tho then you still have to sort out ties) but that is also quite anticlimatic since it doesn't have a proper final.
Over thinking it like you just did would diminish the potential tournament win of any player other than player 1 which imho isn't exactly a nice thing to do. If player 1 wants to win then he better starts practicing so he can beat player 8 :p

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kg - Reply to #407

The thing is, we don't really know who player "1" is (or if anyone could get such stats).

Also, I'm not overthinking, just pointing out that SE is not fair.

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noctis - Reply to #408

It is fair in the sense that if you want to win the tournament you have to beat everyone you will face and it's the same for everyone player. Different playstyles and unlucky brackets for one player don't change that.

If you want a perfect skill ranking in the end then SE is not the best system to use but if you just want to have an unbeaten winner on top in the end then SE is fine.

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InDepther - Reply to #408

lol I would really like to see you arguing with vedic :P

He uses the same style, stands by his opinion no matter what until the opposition finally quits.

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kg - Reply to #417

I'm willing to listen to reason.

c:

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Trance - Reply to #418

no, you just like to spam ESR :@

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Nukm - Reply to #418

I'm willing to listen to reason.

Edited by Nukm at 16:13 CDT, 6 June 2011

<< Comment #352 @ 16:57 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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Trance

VODs should be popping up anytime here:

http://www.justin.tv/leveluptv/videos

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<< Comment #360 @ 18:27 CDT, 5 June 2011 >>

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d1z :

add'd into memories :D

<< Comment #361 @ 02:47 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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cha0z_

GG FOX!

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ischju

http://imgur.com/yFT4A

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<< Comment #367 @ 04:40 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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incanu7 - Reply to #365

I wish they had.
strafejumping adventure game with tits - now that would have been something.

<< Comment #366 @ 04:28 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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xou

wtf jeelounge.com

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dlx - Reply to #366

its called jizzlounge or jizzlunch

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nicerdicer - Reply to #372

you jizzmaniac

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Anonymous (92.224.75.119)

in which vod of rage -colwn can the alleged winz -strenx drama be found?

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atomigo - Reply to #391

last map of wb-semis is decent....

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Anonymous (71.251.32.237)

agree w/ jamalz. disrepute sounds so homo. vor sounds normal.

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<< Comment #409 @ 10:20 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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nvc - Reply to #402

homopute

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Disrepute - Reply to #402

must be all that cock iv been sucking!

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Dird - Reply to #411

you should stop so ini can come back online

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zeroql

[15:46:41] � Topic is: (ic-LOKE was born on june 3rd! welcome!)
[15:46:41] � Set by: (Reptile) on (Monday, June 6th 2011,

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<< Comment #412 @ 11:56 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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Anonymous (87.152.173.134)

don't listen to those insolent idiots, disrepute. there are always ppl to complain. the funny thing is i am sure they are the first who tune in when you on air next time :)
thanks for the great casting of the tourney.

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<< Comment #414 @ 13:35 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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palatka - Reply to #412

yeah i completely agree!! disrepute, please dont get hurt by anonymous on ESR

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Anonymous (94.189.149.83)

Indeed, Disrepute is an awesome commentator. Even though I rarely play quake live, I follow almost every big online tdm event, and I have to say big thanks to lvl up and especially Disrepute for good work.

-modhl

<< Comment #416 @ 13:57 CDT, 6 June 2011 >>

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erok

could definitely see this as final ranking at dh

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Twisp.

Disrepute and vor is the best commenators we have imo, allways a pleasure listening to you guys! And big thanks to Trance aswell for all the work he does for the community

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xoji - Reply to #421

I didn't enjoy the Fazz hate from Vor. I didn't understand why he was so condescending towards him.

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Twisp. - Reply to #423

Yes thats unnessecary to do on stream :/ should take it with fazz if he have problems with him

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Disrepute - Reply to #424

oh he does

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Twisp. - Reply to #425

nice

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vor_ - Reply to #423

Just some argument on irc like 30 seconds before that game, wouldn't read too much into it. It's not "professional" I suppose, but then I don't claim to be.

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Vium - Reply to #426

I like the personal attacks and the swearing.
Don't be bothered by dis trying to stop you, just go on a rant.

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fur*q

Two weeks should be enough time for the new Quake baby to get in shape for Dreamhack, or is that asking too much?

Edited by fur*q at 19:09 CDT, 6 June 2011

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Lejionator

Demos, please! :(

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xou

formated results and added VODs links

<3 http://fff.im/6ww (less spoiler version)

Edited by xou at 12:32 CDT, 8 June 2011

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Twisp.

Is there any vods streamed by trance availible? Like the 4kings vs reason game? Can only find the ones streamed by disrepute.

Btw tox rail isnt close to what it once was. maybe had a bad day..

Edited by Twisp. at 16:23 CDT, 8 June 2011

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kg - Reply to #432

try http://www.justin.tv/leveluptv2 or http://www.justin.tv/leveluptv3

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Twisp. - Reply to #433

Thnx

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occultum

I wish there were some demos of this.. VOD's are acceptable but to analyze closely tactics and the organization of teams its really hard because of the followkiller thing and other stuff.
It's ok for streaming but demos would be great :|

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leopold ' - Reply to #434

welcome to QL.

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rizzah - Reply to #434

i agree!

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ischju

do it again (: